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Skittles

05-12-2008, 10:25 AM

Yeah I have no idea why they would have even gone ahead with 90210. Gossip Girl is basically the same show and it is not doing that great in the ratings.And the thing is, Gossip Girl is a critical darling but a ratings failure (so I've heard, I don't watch it myself), so why they'd go for ANOTHER show like that makes no sense.

And think about it this way: The audience that enjoyed 90210 has grown up. Will they really still find it relevant and enjoyable?

dimented

05-12-2008, 10:49 AM

What is this 90210 you speak of? Are they remaking it?

DevdogAZ

05-12-2008, 10:55 AM

The CW needs something that draws not only critical praise, but mainstream eyeballs. Without knowing what the actual show will be like, I think trying to capitalize on the fact that there are lots of 24-35 year olds who are very familiar with 90210 can only help the network. It will get a lot more buzz and attention than a critical darling like GG or VM ever could.

Jeeters

05-12-2008, 11:02 AM

AJRitz

05-12-2008, 11:06 AM

EW is reporting that it's confirmed Jennie Garth will be reprising her Kelly Taylor role in the new 90210. She'll be playing a guidance councelor. Also confirmed is Lori Laughlin and Arrested Development's Jessica Walter.

The show will probably suck.
But with Jennie Garth and Lori Laughlin in it, I'll watch every episode for as long as it airs. :D

mwhip

05-12-2008, 11:30 AM

And the thing is, Gossip Girl is a critical darling but a ratings failure (so I've heard, I don't watch it myself), so why they'd go for ANOTHER show like that makes no sense.

And think about it this way: The audience that enjoyed 90210 has grown up. Will they really still find it relevant and enjoyable?

The only good thing it really has going for it ratings wise is being #1 in iTunes TV downloads.

Also what ticked me off is Reaper having the same or better ratings than GG and it being a bubble show!!! If they would have of the promotion into Reaper they put into GG they might have a mild hit on their hands.

mwhip

05-12-2008, 11:36 AM

Some info from E!

Reaper looks like it is coming in mid season (damn them)

Eli Stone should get picked up

Moonlight should be picked up as well

Bierboy

05-12-2008, 11:39 AM

...Eli Stone should get picked up...Moonlight should be picked up as well

Outstanding news!

Now, if we could just get Fox to change their minds on New Amsterdam...

BIH...Fo.......

....oh, wait, that's another thread...

jsmeeker

05-12-2008, 11:41 AM

What is this 90210 you speak of? Are they remaking it?

If Canada can have a Degrassi Next Generation, we can have a new 90210. :)

Bierboy

05-12-2008, 11:43 AM

If Canada can have a Degrassi Next Generation, we can have a new 90210. :)
But, by now, with the burgeoning population, wouldn't the zip code have changed? :rolleyes:

garys67

05-12-2008, 11:58 AM

Speaking of which, Veronica Mars creator Rob Thomas is involved in the new 90210; among other things, I believe he wrote the pilot.

The CW needs something that draws not only critical praise, but mainstream eyeballs. Without knowing what the actual show will be like, I think trying to capitalize on the fact that there are lots of 24-35 year olds who are very familiar with 90210 can only help the network. It will get a lot more buzz and attention than a critical darling like GG or VM ever could.

mwhip

05-12-2008, 12:10 PM

Speaking of which, Veronica Mars creator Rob Thomas is involved in the new 90210; among other things, I believe he wrote the pilot.

He started on it and then walked away he has too many other projects at the moment. Two shows

Cupid on ABC and Good Behavior on CBS I think

mwhip

05-12-2008, 02:13 PM

Gotta love and hate how things change hour to hour.

Now it looks like Moonlight might not get picked up.

October Road is officially done.

cmontyburns

05-12-2008, 02:24 PM

Reaper looks like it is coming in mid season (damn them)

Frick. Still better than nothing but that gives them plenty of latitude to not bring it back at all.

Bierboy

05-12-2008, 02:48 PM

Gotta love and hate how things change hour to hour.

Now it looks like Moonlight might not get picked up....

Source?

mwhip

05-12-2008, 02:50 PM

Source?

E! online and TV Guide

smak

05-12-2008, 03:57 PM

Scrubs coming back for one final year at ABC.

-smak-

vertigo235

05-12-2008, 04:56 PM

Says here that Eli Stone has been renewed.

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Eli/800039396

busyba

05-12-2008, 05:01 PM

Cupid on ABC

:confused: With Jeremy Piven and Paula Marshall??

whitson77

05-12-2008, 05:11 PM

*phew*

The one show that was on the bubble that I was most worried about. I can sleep soundly tonight.

There is no god.

Me too. My wife and I are so glad it will be back. Genius show!

Eli Stone is our favorite so, A big sigh there.

Amnesia

05-12-2008, 06:22 PM

Jay Mohr's new show, Project Gary (http://www.thefutoncritic.com/devwatch.aspx?id=project_gary), has been picked up. I wonder what will happen with his character on Ghost Whisperer...

Johncv

05-12-2008, 06:57 PM

Outstanding news!

Now, if we could just get Fox to change their minds on New Amsterdam...

BIH...Fo.......

....oh, wait, that's another thread...

Sorry, word is that Moonlight will be cancel.

DreadPirateRob

05-12-2008, 07:13 PM

No official word yet on How I Met Your Mother, but sources connected to the series say they are expecting a fourth-season pickup, thanks in part to the recent ratings uptick and media attention over Britney’s guest spot.

Fingers crossed...

The Unit is very likely to receive a pickup

Woot!

EMoMoney

05-12-2008, 07:16 PM

CW is picking up Reaper (thank God :p)

According to the Futon Critic, it's still Fate to be Determined.

mattack

05-12-2008, 09:55 PM

"Official"..."rumors"?

Jumbo shrimp?
Military intelligence?

nyny523

05-13-2008, 07:38 AM

I liked October Road...:(

And Skittles, you need to be watching Gossip Girl.

It is a guilty pleasure...:o

iceisles

05-13-2008, 07:54 AM

October Road started off strong, but after the initial 5 or 6 episodes, the scripts started becoming weaker and weaker. The show had such promise, and I'm not surprised they've canned it.

Glad to see Bost Legal coming back - probably the best writing in television, IMO.

dswallow

05-13-2008, 08:52 AM

Glad to see Bost Legal coming back - probably the best writing in television, IMO.

<snort>

cheerdude

05-13-2008, 08:55 AM

Not quite what this thread was for... but a new verison of The Electric Company is scheduled to begin airing in January 2009 on PBS.

mwhip

05-13-2008, 09:06 AM

ABC Fall schedule

MONDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Dancing with the Stars"
9:30 p.m. "Samantha Who?"
10:00 p.m. "Boston Legal"

TUESDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Opportunity Knocks"
9:00 p.m. "Dancing with the Stars the Results Show"
10:00 p.m. "Eli Stone"

WEDNESDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Pushing Daisies"
9:00 p.m. "Private Practice"
10:00 p.m. "Dirty Sexy Money"

THURSDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Ugly Betty"
9:00 p.m. "Grey's Anatomy"
10:00 p.m. "Life on Mars"

FRIDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Wife Swap"
9:00 p.m. "Supernanny"
10:00 p.m. "20/20"

SATURDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Saturday Night College Football"

SUNDAY:
7:00 p.m. "America's Funniest Home Videos"
8:00 p.m. "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
9:00 p.m. "Desperate Housewives"
10:00 p.m. "Brothers & Sisters"

This is just the fall schedule, 'Lost' and 'Scrubs' will be back mid season.

mwhip

05-13-2008, 09:09 AM

jeff125va

05-13-2008, 09:28 AM

I just noticed Miss/Guided is missing from the press release. ABC picked it up a while ago but maybe it just has no room.

If Life on Mars does well what does that mean for 'Lost'? They have a scheduled packed with shows that actually do well. It is going to be hard to squeeze them all in.
Miss Guided was cancelled.

The grid may look packed, but it just means fewer repeats for whichever show's spot that Lost squeezes into.

scooterboy

05-13-2008, 09:42 AM

The wife will be very unhappy about October Road.

:(

LoadStar

05-13-2008, 09:48 AM

Rob Helmerichs

05-13-2008, 10:12 AM

It's interesting... with the exception of "Life on Mars," there's just _nothing_ new on their schedule. It's like they decided "ok, the 2007-08 season was a writeoff... let's just try it again next year."
That will probably be a recurring theme this year--the strike effectively canceled pilot season, so any new shows will mostly be ones that were in development early.

jeff125va

05-13-2008, 10:12 AM

Wow. I'm surprised to see "Life on Mars" on the fall schedule. The last word I had heard about the series was that it went back for it's n-th total revamp (both cast and crew), and as a result it was looking more like a midseason show, not a fall series.

I haven't been following at all... how has Dirty Sexy Money been doing? I haven't heard any buzz about it at all... the silence is rather deafening. They could've been showing bars and tone during that time slot for all I've heard about it.

It's interesting... with the exception of "Life on Mars," there's just _nothing_ new on their schedule. It's like they decided "ok, the 2007-08 season was a writeoff... let's just try it again next year."
Dirty Sexy Money, as well as Pushing Daisies, and possibly Private Practice (I'm not positive since I don't actually watch that one, but it gets recorded) - basically the entire Weds night lineup - went on extended hiatus after the strike, but to my knowledge were never in danger of not coming back. I know that DSM had 3 unaired episodes remaining but they decided to save them for the fall. Apparently it wasn't a spectacular ratings hit, but like I said, when they announced a few months ago that it wouldn't be back after the strike, they did say that it would be picked up for the fall.

DevdogAZ

05-13-2008, 11:10 AM

Great news about Eli Stone.

Also means I might have to start watching my recordings of DSM this summer

TonyD79

05-13-2008, 11:43 AM

Looks like all the ABC shows I watch are back. But no new shows?

mwhip

05-13-2008, 11:47 AM

Looks like all the ABC shows I watch are back. But no new shows?

Two for now

"LIFE ON MARS"

"Life on Mars" is based on the BBC series created by Matthew Graham, Tony Jordan and Ashley Pharoah. The series revolves around Sam Tyler, a modern-day police detective who, after a car crash, mysteriously finds himself transported back to 1973 and still working as a detective.

"Life on Mars" stars Jason O' Mara as Sam Tyler, Rachelle LeFevre as Annie Cartwright, Colm Meaney as Gene Hunt, Stephanie Jacobsen as Maya, Lenny Clarke as George Randall, Patrick Wenk-Wolff as Colin Raimes and Richard Benjamin as Milton Kornboll.

The series is produced by Twentieth Century Fox Television and ABC Studios. Josh Applebaum, Andre Nemec, Scott Rosenberg, Jane Featherstone, Stephen Garrett and David E. Kelley are the executive producers. The pilot episode of "Life on Mars" was executive-produced by David E. Kelley, Tommy Schlamme, Bob Breech, Jane Featherstone and Stephen Garrett, and was produced by David E. Kelley Productions in association with 20th Century Fox Television.

"OPPORTUNITY KNOCKS"

"Opportunity Knocks" is a new show that breaks the mold of typical game and reality shows. We will be showing up on America's doorstep and testing how well they know their family. Our mobile team will arrive at "Anywhere, America" in a semi-truck that is full of flat screen TVs, new furniture and big cash prizes that the family can win right there. We will take the action of a game show directly into our contestants' homes, setting up shop in a family's front lawn. The instant our host, JD Roth, knocks on the front door, the game will begin. Hollywood will invade a suburban neighborhood, and each week one lucky family will play the game of a lifetime in front of all their friends and neighbors.

The host poses trivia questions to family members based directly on their lives, each other and articles found in and around their home. If they're able to prove they know their family inside and out, they'll win the prizes of their dreams.

Executive producers for "Opportunity Knocks" are Ashton Kutcher, Jason Goldberg, Karey Burke, J.D. Roth and Todd A. Nelson. "Opportunity Knocks" is produced by Katalyst Films and 3 Ball Productions.

TonyD79

05-13-2008, 11:59 AM

Two for now

"LIFE ON MARS"

"OPPORTUNITY KNOCKS"

Ah, I saw the titles and Life on Mars registered as old because of the BBC series and Opportunity Knocks I thought was that bad comedy about stealing from Mick Jagger.

Thanks.

IJustLikeTivo

05-13-2008, 12:37 PM

Rats, two of my favs, Woman's Murder Club and Men In Trees, both gone.

DougF

05-13-2008, 12:39 PM

I'd been meaning to take a look at "Women's Murder Club" all year. Too bad it's cancelled. Angie Harmon is way too hot not to be on TV every week.

My wife really liked "Notes from the Underbelly".

Cearbhaill

05-13-2008, 12:42 PM

Yay Boston Legal.
I know it is DEK's own personal soapbox but as long as he does it with Denny and Alan and all the rest I'll be there.

mrmike

05-13-2008, 12:55 PM

Woman's Murder Club [...] gone.

I'm sad. Not only was Angie fun to watch, but I liked Daisy, Daisy Adair in her new role too.

WhiskeyTango

05-13-2008, 01:00 PM

I'm pretty disappointed with the offerings so far from NBC and ABC. I've gone through the shows they've got on their schedule and I've only got Chuck, Heroes, and Ugly Betty. There are a couple of other new ones I might check out if nothing better comes along in those time slots (My Own Worst Enemy, Crusoe, Kath & Kim, Life on Mars). Nothing for me to be excited about though. Hopefully the other networks will offer more.

Last year was so much more exciting for me at this time, checking in on all the new shows. This year...nothin'. My viewing schedule is consistently full with 2 or more shows each hour during prime time. It's looking pretty bare so far. Damn strike!

Anubys

05-13-2008, 01:05 PM

Pushing Daisies and Dirty Sexy Money...otherwise, I have no use for ABC!

well, I'll watch Scrubs when it starts there...

Graymalkin

05-13-2008, 01:37 PM

I'm sad about Women's Murder Club, but I'm happy to see Eli Stone made the cut.

I'm actually watching a fair amount of ABC stuff now: Brothers & Sisters, Samantha Who?, Eli Stone, Pushing Daisies, Private Practice, Dirty Sexy Money, and Grey's Anatomy.

That Don Guy

05-13-2008, 02:32 PM

"OPPORTUNITY KNOCKS"

"Opportunity Knocks" is a new show that breaks the mold of typical game and reality shows. We will be showing up on America's doorstep and testing how well they know their family. Our mobile team will arrive at "Anywhere, America" in a semi-truck that is full of flat screen TVs, new furniture and big cash prizes that the family can win right there. We will take the action of a game show directly into our contestants' homes, setting up shop in a family's front lawn. The instant our host, JD Roth, knocks on the front door, the game will begin. Hollywood will invade a suburban neighborhood, and each week one lucky family will play the game of a lifetime in front of all their friends and neighbors.

The host poses trivia questions to family members based directly on their lives, each other and articles found in and around their home. If they're able to prove they know their family inside and out, they'll win the prizes of their dreams.
Sounds like Amne$ia. Hopefully, they don't write the questions to turn it into another The Moment of Truth.

If Life on Mars does well what does that mean for 'Lost'? They have a scheduled packed with shows that actually do well. It is going to be hard to squeeze them all in.
I assume Dancing With the Stars will not run all year, and Lost will fill one of its time slots (and Scrubs half of the other one) when its Fall 2008 edition ends.

Speaking of finding a place for Scrubs, does anybody else notice that there are no half-hour shows on ABC's fall lineup?

-- Don

mwhip

05-13-2008, 02:43 PM

Speaking of finding a place for Scrubs, does anybody else notice that there are no half-hour shows on ABC's fall lineup?

-- Don

Samantha Who? Is the only one

TIVO_GUY_HERE

05-13-2008, 03:25 PM

Moonlight is gone too. I liked that show..

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Cbs-Cancels-Moonlight/800039499

nyny523

05-13-2008, 03:27 PM

I think I am the only person who really did NOT like Dirty Sexy Money. I thought it was really dumb.

And I couldn't get into Pushing Daisies. I tried.

mwhip

05-13-2008, 03:31 PM

I think I am the only person who really did NOT like Dirty Sexy Money. I thought it was really dumb.

And I couldn't get into Pushing Daisies. I tried.

Everything is not for everyone at least you tried them. I like DSM OK enough but it is not that awesome. Pushing Dasies I don't watch for the leads, the supporting characters make it for me besides there is too much "whimsy" in that show for me to really get into it.

Moonlight was something I would watch when nothing else was on the DVR. Not really going to miss it.

Neenahboy

05-13-2008, 03:41 PM

I think I am the only person who really did NOT like Dirty Sexy Money. I thought it was really dumb.

You're not alone.

Peter Krause is awesome, and I'll watch everything he does at least once, but my God...I wanted to kill every member of the Darling family after the pilot. :down:

nyny523

05-13-2008, 03:43 PM

I watched for something like 3-4 weeks. Then I wanted to kill myself, so I deleted the SP....

Cainebj

05-13-2008, 03:50 PM

I watched for something like 3-4 weeks. Then I wanted to kill myself, so I deleted the SP....

I only made it 2 weeks.

Too bad about Miss Guided - I enjoyed it.

DreadPirateRob

05-13-2008, 04:04 PM

I like DSM. Not the greatest show ever, but I like the cast, especially Krause and Sutherland, and I want to know who offed Krause's dad.

Also, apparently How I Met Your Mother and The Unit have been officially picked up. Yay!

SnakeEyes

05-13-2008, 05:58 PM

Shark is cancelled.

hanumang

05-13-2008, 06:02 PM

Moonlight is gone too. I liked that show..

Bummer. :( Yes, it was fluff but every show cannot (and probably should not) be The Wire.

On a super-positive note, The Unit is back!

Go for Blaine!

TonyD79

05-13-2008, 06:53 PM

Aliens in America gone.

Guess it was too intelligent for the CW.

IJustLikeTivo

05-13-2008, 07:28 PM

I'm sad. Not only was Angie fun to watch, but I liked Daisy, Daisy Adair in her new role too.

I especially liked those two but I liked them all.

IJustLikeTivo

05-13-2008, 07:29 PM

Shark is cancelled.

:eek::eek:

Aniketos

05-13-2008, 07:45 PM

Aliens in America gone.

Guess it was too intelligent for the CW.

Yeah, it's a shame. CW really doesn't deserve Aliens or Reaper. I enjoyed Aliens, it wasn't my favorite show, but it was funny and it sucks that its gone. Hopefully, Reaper will have a shot, even if they're only giving it half a season.

mattack

05-13-2008, 09:23 PM

Ah, I saw the titles and Life on Mars registered as old because of the BBC series and Opportunity Knocks I thought was that bad comedy about stealing from Mick Jagger.

Wash your mouth out with soap. That was an *incredible* comedy!

Kamakzie

05-13-2008, 10:34 PM

Why oh why did they cancel Shark.... IDIOTS! I'm also sad to see October Road gone.

fmowry

05-14-2008, 07:44 AM

Has Cane been officially canceled yet?

Frank

lambertman

05-14-2008, 07:50 AM

Pushing Dasies I don't watch for the leads, the supporting characters make it for me besides there is too much "whimsy" in that show for me to really get into it.

I started out totally loving it, but ep by ep the whimsy began choking the life out of me. I watched through to the strike but right now, I'm not feeling the need to go back to it this fall.

I love me some Anna Friel, but I have a hunch there will be hot girls on other shows as well.

jeff125va

05-14-2008, 07:51 AM

Has Cane been officially canceled yet?

Frank
I heard that it was - was mentioned in the Lost podcast I guess one of the characters is on both shows.

I'm really bummed about Shark! I still have all episodes of Moonlight but I guess I can delete them now. We usually don't procrastinate in watching the first couple episodes of a show like that but did with that one for some reason.

I feel the same way about Dirty Sexy Money as some of the other posters. Not great, but good enough to keep watching. I wouldn't have been terribly disappointed if it had been cancelled (like I am about Shark!). The characters aren't necessarily likeable people but are interesting in some ways. I think the point of them being so repulsive in some ways (but with some occasional redeeming qualities) is so you understand how Peter Krause's character feels.

laria

05-14-2008, 08:45 AM

I heard that it was - was mentioned in the Lost podcast I guess one of the characters is on both shows.

Yeah, the guy that played the oldest son is the guy who plays Richard Alpert on Lost.

WinBear

05-14-2008, 09:18 AM

CBS just announced their shows. I'm sure several of the men here will be happy that Elizabeth Reaser will have her own show with an interesting premise.

mwhip

05-14-2008, 09:23 AM

CBS just announced their shows. I'm sure several of the men here will be happy that Elizabeth Reaser will have her own show with an interesting premise.

Please tell me the same wardrobe consultant on Ghost Whisperer will be dressing her!!!! :p

mwhip

05-14-2008, 09:25 AM

Clips of Life on Mars, Opportunity Knocks, and The Goode Family

http://buzzsugar.com/1626756

WinBear

05-14-2008, 09:25 AM

CBS' "The Mentalist" sounds like it'll be a serious version of USA's "Psych" with Simon Baker. I think I may have to roll my eyes if it takes itself that seriously.

WinBear

05-14-2008, 09:27 AM

Please tell me the same wardrobe consultant on Ghost Whisperer will be dressing her!!!! :p

http://www.zap2it.com/media/photo/2008-05/38848445.jpg

I think you might be onto something.

Graymalkin

05-14-2008, 10:12 AM

How I Met Your Mother renewed -- YAY!

Moonlight cancelled -- BOO!

Amnesia

05-14-2008, 10:50 AM

Moonlight cancelled -- BOO!Nikki Finke is reporting (http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-moonlight-on-cw/) that there are talks to have Moonlight move to the CW's Sunday night lineup...

vikingguy

05-14-2008, 11:01 AM

I am pretty pissed off at CBS right now. Moonlight, Jerico and Shark were 3 show I really liked. It is usually fox who needs to burn in hell but CBS has taken over the roll of the network I hate. Atleast they renewed HIMYM and BBT since there are so few 1/2 hour show out there.

None of the new shows from any of the networks look very good to me honestly.

WhiskeyTango

05-14-2008, 11:13 AM

Can anyone verify the time that The Unit will be coming back? TVGuide shows 10pm on Sunday and the FutonCritic shows 9pm on Sunday.

Amnesia

05-14-2008, 11:28 AM

10PM Sunday. Read the CBS release.

needo

05-14-2008, 11:48 AM

10PM Sunday. Read the CBS release.

This makes no sense to me. I always thought NCIS/The Unit was a perfect pairing.

jeff125va

05-14-2008, 12:28 PM

This makes no sense to me. I always thought NCIS/The Unit was a perfect pairing.
Zap2it's article said that the 10:00 Tuesday slot has not done well in a while so they're moving Without A Trace there. And I guess they wanted to give the new show on Thursdays at 10 a good lead-in.

Just watch them back to back on the same night and they'll still be paired for you. :-)

Kamakzie

05-14-2008, 12:29 PM

At least Big Bang Theory is back

pkscout

05-14-2008, 12:36 PM

10PM Sunday. Read the CBS release.

Is CBS still carrying football on Sundays? The Unit might suffer the same fate that Without a Trace did in my house when they moved. I refuse to pad a show for three hours in the hopes of being to watch it, so I just stop watching anything that gets moved around because of the NFL.

Edmund

05-14-2008, 12:43 PM

WhiskeyTango

05-14-2008, 12:46 PM

Is CBS still carrying football on Sundays? The Unit might suffer the same fate that Without a Trace did in my house when they moved. I refuse to pad a show for three hours in the hopes of being to watch it, so I just stop watching anything that gets moved around because of the NFL.

This is why I was hoping it was airing at 9pm. It would be less work to pad the end of the Unit to catch TAR and Unit that to adjust two different recordings to catch both. I think this could really hurt the ratings if the show is going to be running until 11:30 or later on a Sunday night.

DreadPirateRob

05-14-2008, 01:07 PM

Or you could just move to the West Coast, where we never have that problem. :)

jeff125va

05-14-2008, 01:17 PM

As much as I resisted giving up most of my TiVos for DirecTV HD-DVR's, one thing I love about them is being able to have two recordings going on the same channel at the same time using only one tuner. So my 1-hour-later pad on Cold Case can record at the same time as the 10:00 show (previously WAT or Shark) and still allow another show to record on another channel on the 2nd tuner. So I've had a 1-hour pad on both Cold Case and whatever has followed it. I just leave it like that all the time, because college basketball and golf cause delays occasionally, too. Not every week like the NFL, but often enough. It does take up more recording space since each one is 2 hours, but we just make it a point to watch those shows sooner than others if the hard drives start to get full.

Johncv

05-14-2008, 06:29 PM

Nikki Finke is reporting (http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-moonlight-on-cw/) that there are talks to have Moonlight move to the CW's Sunday night lineup...

Sorry, not going to happen, from Zap2it:

http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-cbscancelsmoonlight,0,6764293.story

“Tassler also put the kibosh on a report that The CW is interested in picking up the show as part of its farmed-out Sunday schedule, which is being programmed by independent producer Media Rights Capital. "Probably not, no," was Tassler's response to a question about the rumored move.

The CW unveiled the titles of two comedies and two dramas for Sunday night at its upfront party Tuesday night; "Moonlight" wasn't among them.“

timr_42

05-14-2008, 08:13 PM

Yeah, the guy that played the oldest son is the guy who plays Richard Alpert on Lost.

Batmanuel !! :p

mattack

05-14-2008, 09:59 PM

As much as I resisted giving up most of my TiVos for DirecTV HD-DVR's, one thing I love about them is being able to have two recordings going on the same channel at the same time using only one tuner. So my 1-hour-later pad on Cold Case can record at the same time as the 10:00 show (previously WAT or Shark) and still allow another show to record on another channel on the 2nd tuner.

So if you record Cold Case with an hour long pad, and the 10pm recording for an hour..
Does that count as 3 hours of disk space being used, or is the 'overlap' hour somehow shared between the two recordings, and actually only deleted when you delete BOTH of them?

Rob Helmerichs

05-14-2008, 10:08 PM

My solution is I just don't watch any CBS shows on Sunday night. Works like a charm.

(Shame about Cold Case, but what the hey.)

Amnesia

05-15-2008, 06:03 AM

So if you record Cold Case with an hour long pad, and the 10pm recording for an hour..Why would you want to do that?
Just record the 9PM show normally and pad the 10PM show for an hour.

Worse comes to worse and the Sunday shows are delayed, you have the wrong show (or part of the wrong show) recorded in each segment. But as long as you watch them in order, it doesn't really matter.

jeff125va

05-15-2008, 08:16 AM

So if you record Cold Case with an hour long pad, and the 10pm recording for an hour..
Does that count as 3 hours of disk space being used, or is the 'overlap' hour somehow shared between the two recordings, and actually only deleted when you delete BOTH of them?
Well, it's 4 hours total, because I also pad the 10:00 show for an hour. They are only shared in the sense that while they're recording, audio/video from the same tuner is being saved into two separate "files." So in this case, everything from 10:00 - 11:00 is duplicated on the hard drive.

What's cool is that even without padding, when back-to-back shows are on the same channel, it automatically records a few seconds of overlap, which is nice if there's actual show content at the hour or half-hour mark.

Why would you want to do that?
Just record the 9PM show normally and pad the 10PM show for an hour.

Worse comes to worse and the Sunday shows are delayed, you have the wrong show (or part of the wrong show) recorded in each segment. But as long as you watch them in order, it doesn't really matter.
The main reason is in case the 10:00 show isn't on or is a repeat. It's also nice for convenience to have the entire show in one recording. If hard drive space were an issue I might not do it this way.

Amnesia

05-15-2008, 08:25 AM

The main reason is in case the 10:00 show isn't on or is a repeat. It's also nice for convenience to have the entire show in one recording. If hard drive space were an issue I might not do it this way.
Sure, it's better to have the show in one recording.

I usually record all the CBS shows on Sunday night (7-11PM) and so I'll check the TiVo to ensure that all shows are scheduled to record. If football or whatever might delay the start, then I'll usually pad the 10PM show by 1.5h. If I'm home on Sunday night, I'll check the 60 Minutes recording to see if it really has been delayed (and by how much) and use that as a guideline to adjust the pad on the 10PM show...

jeff125va

05-15-2008, 08:48 AM

Sure, it's better to have the show in one recording.

I usually record all the CBS shows on Sunday night (7-11PM) and so I'll check the TiVo to ensure that all shows are scheduled to record. If football or whatever might delay the start, then I'll usually pad the 10PM show by 1.5h. If I'm home on Sunday night, I'll check the 60 Minutes recording to see if it really has been delayed (and by how much) and use that as a guideline to adjust the pad on the 10PM show...
Yeah, as much as I like being able to set up long pads and not have to worry about missing anything, more often than not I'll end up shortening or removing the padding. If I think of it during the week, I'll check and see whether there's a late CBS game in the first place. Then on Sundays I'm usually watching football right up until the end, so if I see what time 60 Minutes starts, I'll shorten the padding if the overrun isn't too long. If I'm really ambitious, I'll even set up manual recordings of just over an hour.

Hard drive space isn't an issue as far as the two extra hours on any given week, but it could become one if I had those 4 hours recording week after week and we were getting several weeks behind on shows, as we do every year. This year has been much easier due to the writers strike.

JLucPicard

05-15-2008, 09:05 AM

Amnesia

05-15-2008, 09:06 AM

Hard drive space isn't an issue as far as the two extra hours on any given week, but it could become one if I had those 4 hours recording week after week (...)Yeah---the padding encourages me to watch the Sunday shows ASAP...

jeff125va

05-15-2008, 09:54 AM

The "padding" snafu that hit me was I had orignally set up "Shark" with a one hour pad when it was on Sunday nights and when they changed the night it airs, I didn't change the padding. Not a big deal, but it's nicer to just use one hour for the recording instead of two - epsecially when it's airing in a set one-hour time slot! Won't have to worry about that one any more. :(
Yeah, i didn't know about the change until after it had happened, but fortunately it's on at 10:00 (right?) so if anything was bumped, it was repeats of Fresh Prince or something my kids record multiple times a day.

That Don Guy

05-15-2008, 02:54 PM

I noticed on the new Fox schedule that Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader? and Don't Forget the Lyrics are not on the January-May schedule.

Has anybody seen any commercials for casting calls for another new group of fifth graders? I haven't, and I don't see anything on Fox's official show website that says they are looking; I assume that they're going to tape additional episodes for next fall with the current group, and then cancel the series in December (although they might show reruns on Sundays at 7 once Fox's NFL coverage ends). This is strange, as I thought it had decent ratings.

This doesn't quite rate a BIH Fox...how about:
Eat in Hell's Kitchen, Fox

EDIT: A Fox press release over at TheFutonCritic describing the new season says that the third season will have a new set of fifth graders. This could be in part because there is another report that says the show's season premiere will be on August 29 - Fox will be starting a few shows (including Prison Break and Bones) that week (choose an excuse: in order to capitalize on NBC's coverage of the Summer Olympics, which ends August 24; to give people something new to watch before the Democratic National Convention coverage that week, which usually starts at 10 Eastern, except on the Thursday as that is when the nominee's acceptance speech so it starts earlier, and "coincidentally" Fox does not have a season premiere scheduled for that night).

(And is 2008-09 finally the last year for King of the Hill? I assume it depends on (a) whether or not either Sit Down, Shut Up or The Cleveland Show (both of which start "in the spring" - I assume that means "May 3, 2009") does well enough to get extended until May 2010, and (b) if it's just The Cleveland Show, whether Fox thinks three Seth MacFarlane shows is too many and drops American Dad, even though it has higher ratings than KOTH.)

-- Don

marksman

05-15-2008, 04:49 PM

Yeah I have no idea why they would have even gone ahead with 90210. Gossip Girl is basically the same show and it is not doing that great in the ratings.

BITE YOUR FINGER!

marksman

05-15-2008, 04:53 PM

I haven't been following at all... how has Dirty Sexy Money been doing? I haven't heard any buzz about it at all... the silence is rather deafening. They could've been showing bars and tone during that time slot for all I've heard about it.

Was the best new show launched last year. Too bad it did not get more attention. Although it is likely one of the shows the strike saved. If the strike never happened, its middling ratings might have gotten it canceled, but it was critically reviewed pretty highly, and of people who watched it regularly well-regarded.

MasterOfPuppets

05-15-2008, 05:41 PM

Sucks that Aliens in America got the ax. That was a solid show. Same for Cane.
I'm glad The Unit is coming back...if football pushes it back too far, hey, I love me some BitTorrent.
Looking forward to more Dirty Sexy Money as well.

Johncv

05-15-2008, 05:57 PM

Can’t wait to see what the bloodsucking fans of Moonlight are going to do. Jars of pig’s blood in the mail. :eek:

That Don Guy

05-16-2008, 02:14 PM

how has Dirty Sexy Money been doing?
It will be back, but, from what I've heard, without Juliet (the female half of the 25-year-old twins). Apparently, Samaire Armstrong has had some "personal problems" in the past few months.

-- Don

MasterOfPuppets

05-16-2008, 02:23 PM

It will be back, but, from what I've heard, without Juliet (the female half of the 25-year-old twins). Apparently, Samaire Armstrong has had some "personal problems" in the past few months.

-- Don

She's gone, but it could be plus, somebody else (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b132520_iDirty_Sexyi_Lucy.html?sid=rss_topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories).

Graymalkin

05-16-2008, 02:25 PM

They can't recast the role with some other cute blondie? They're a dime a dozen out in La-La-Land.

busyba

05-16-2008, 04:19 PM

They can't recast the role with some other cute blondie? They're a dime a dozen out in La-La-Land.

Heck, in the big family shot in the opening credits, it's not even her, it's the girl her character hired to be a stand-in for the family photo. Just hire that girl. :)

Bierboy

05-16-2008, 06:53 PM

No Dexter on CBS next year?

mattack

05-16-2008, 09:28 PM

So in this case, everything from 10:00 - 11:00 is duplicated on the hard drive.

What's cool is that even without padding, when back-to-back shows are on the same channel, it automatically records a few seconds of overlap, which is nice if there's actual show content at the hour or half-hour mark.

Very cool, even with the "extra" disk space usage. (That's not really fair, since duplicating the disk space in each recording really is the obvious way of doing it.. But I guess it must be duplicating the data all along, since you could delete the 9-11pm recording at 11:00:01, right? It's not like it has to afterwards go back and duplicate the data.)

With the second feature, I would probably remove a lot of the padding that I do. e.g. CBS Mondays, I pad each show pre and post 1 minute.. (I think I may remove the very beginning and very end of the 2 hours, since those seem to start/end on time.)

mattack

05-16-2008, 09:35 PM

[I]EDIT: A Fox press release over at TheFutonCritic describing the new season says that the third season will have a new set of fifth graders.

Ok, this is a tangent, but why did they get rid of the "5th Grader" girl on "Back to You"?
I know the latter is cancelled.

Aniketos

05-16-2008, 09:39 PM

Ok, this is a tangent, but why did they get rid of the "5th Grader" girl on "Back to You"?
I know the latter is cancelled.

I don't know, but it bugged the hell out of me. My friends watched the show so I caught it occasionally. The new daughter looked like she was about five years old and it was completely unbelievable to listen to her say anything intelligent.

jeff125va

05-16-2008, 10:08 PM

Very cool, even with the "extra" disk space usage. (That's not really fair, since duplicating the disk space in each recording really is the obvious way of doing it.. But I guess it must be duplicating the data all along, since you could delete the 9-11pm recording at 11:00:01, right? It's not like it has to afterwards go back and duplicate the data.)

With the second feature, I would probably remove a lot of the padding that I do. e.g. CBS Mondays, I pad each show pre and post 1 minute.. (I think I may remove the very beginning and very end of the 2 hours, since those seem to start/end on time.)
Right, each recording is being saved separately to its own "file" in the list of recordings. It just so happens that for that hour, the same data stream is being saved to two separate recordings. You could be doing the same thing with shows on another channel and have 4 recordings going at the same time.

unixadm

05-19-2008, 12:20 AM

Wow....out of all the new shows, I wanted the following to continue in this order:

1 Shark
2. Cane
3. Dirty Sexy Money
4. October Road
5. Journeyman
6. Big Shots
7. Back to You

Out of the 7 shows I liked, 6 of them were cancelled!

Maybe I'm the Ted McGinley or Paula Marshall of Show watchers.....I watch a show, and it gets cancelled! :D

Burn in H*** all networks! The strike is what messed up all the shows.....some good ones were lost. :( As more and more seasons go by, I realize that there is less and less good TV, and less and less chance of anything good staying on TV for very long.

WhiskeyTango

05-19-2008, 09:08 AM

I agree. I compared my TV schedule from last summer to this summer and last fall to this coming fall. The majority of the shows I watched last season were cancelled, replaced by crap like America's Top Dog and Momma's Boy.

That Don Guy

05-19-2008, 02:25 PM

Ok, this is a tangent, but why did they get rid of the "5th Grader" girl on "Back to You"?
I have heard various "official" versions of this, but the two that stick out seem to be (1) the producers wanted to go in a different direction, and (2) one of the producers felt that "that girl from Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?" was distracting viewers from the "main characters".

My guess is, once they got to the "they have to tell Gracie who her father is" part of the storyline, they didn't want Gracie to be the independent girl she was in the first few episodes, so they replaced Laura with somebody younger-looking (not to mention shorter).

-- Don

That Don Guy

05-19-2008, 02:34 PM

Is CBS still carrying football on Sundays? The Unit might suffer the same fate that Without a Trace did in my house when they moved. I refuse to pad a show for three hours in the hopes of being to watch it, so I just stop watching anything that gets moved around because of the NFL.
Here are the Sundays this year on which CBS has NFL doubleheaders, so the Sunday schedule in the Eastern and Central time zones will be delayed by at least 30 minutes:

September 14
September 21
October 5
October 19
November 9
November 16
November 30
December 14
(also, the September 7 schedule may be delayed, dependong on how long the U.S. Open men's singles final takes)

-- Don

laria

05-19-2008, 03:23 PM

Wow....out of all the new shows, I wanted the following to continue in this order:

1 Shark

Shark wasn't a new show, though. :) This was the 2nd season. ;)

ruexp67

05-27-2008, 10:49 PM

Shark had been going downhill lately anyway. James Woods looks terrible.

I am very dissapointed about Women's Murder Club. It's a pretty good show.

Moonlight was just 'ok.' I won't really miss it.

I had stopped watching Cane, as I no longer had insomnia that needed to be cured.

I am really looking forward to Pushing Daisies coming back! (Crosses fingers)

jeff125va

05-28-2008, 09:09 AM

Here are the Sundays this year on which CBS has NFL doubleheaders, so the Sunday schedule in the Eastern and Central time zones will be delayed by at least 30 minutes:

September 14
September 21
October 5
October 19
November 9
November 16
November 30
December 14
(also, the September 7 schedule may be delayed, dependong on how long the U.S. Open men's singles final takes)

-- Don
Last year, for the first few weeks before Viva Laughlin and subsequently The Amazing Race began, they had 90-minute episodes of 60 Minutes starting at 7:30 eastern, some of which started on time, and some of which did not. Also, on the FOX doubleheader weekends, the schedule could still be delayed if your home team plays the late game on CBS. Even with a 4:05 start (vs. 4:15) a delay is highly likely.