American Idol "Results" 4/10/08 *spoilers*

[Kamakzie]

I think Syesha, Castro or Brooke are in danger tonight.

Wow I'm surprised they are doing this group song on secular television. I wonder how many of the contestants are non-Christians? I have no problem with it because I grew up Christian and still am, just not practicing.

Brooke White is safe
David Cook is safe
David Archuleta is safe DUH. :rolleyes:

Jordin Sparks and Chris Brown perform in a duet.

Jason Castro is safe.. So far I'm 0-2.
Kristy Lee Cook is safe

Syesha Mercado, Carly Smithson and Michael Johns are in the bottom 3.

Syesha and Carly are safe.

Michael is going home.

[IRONROOF56]

Please god let it be Carly, Pretty please....with sugar on top!!!:D

[Mr. Soze]

Whoa! WTF! How could Brooke and Jason and Kristy still be there? Wow! JUST EFFING WOW!

[Odds Bodkins]

Wow. How in the hell does this happen? Vote for the Worst??

[nyny523]

Whoa! WTF! How could Brooke and Jason and Kristy still be there? Wow! JUST EFFING WOW!

I agree with this completely.

America is high...:rolleyes:

[Odds Bodkins]

Who the hell is voting for Brooke? Seriously.

[Kamakzie]

I thought Michael's "Dream On" was a lot better than what Simon said.

[DevdogAZ]

At this point, all of the remaining contestants are pretty good singers, so it's not a matter of best or worst. Someone good was going home no matter who it was.

I don't think Michael has really connected much with the audience. There were some people here that thought he was nice to look at, but as far as singing, he didn't really stand out or make a niche. David Cook is better at the rocker songs, Archuleta and Castro are better at the ballads and folk-type stuff. He did really well on Bohemian Rhapsody, and has had a couple other performances that were pretty good, but overall, I don't think he's ever lived up to the potential that we all expected from that initial performance in Hollywood.

[nyny523]

At this point, all of the remaining contestants are pretty good singers, so it's not a matter of best or worst. Someone good was going home no matter who it was.

Brooke is not a very good singer.

Neither is Jason.

One of them should have gone home...

[Roadblock]

Brooke is not a very good singer.

Neither is Jason.

One of them should have gone home...

They are all "pretty good" singers, as he said. Most of them are not "very good" singers.

I'm really surprised Michael went home instead of Syesha or Carly. Oh well.

[AJRitz]

I called this one - ranked Michael Johns 7th out of 8 Tuesday night. He had no sound of his own, and only really sounded good when he was consciously trying to sound like someone else. But I think what killed him was the awful falsetto at the end on Tuesday night. That's the last thing people heard, and it was just plain bad.

[TIVO_GUY_HERE]

When this season first started, Michael was my pick as best singer, but he didn't improve as the weeks went along. I did think he would at least last longer than Brooke. My favorite right now or should I say most improved is Kristy

[Mr. Soze]

Mrs. S. is bummed. Her eye candy is gone. Kinda like how I will feel when Syesha is booted.
I really don't know who is going to win now, based on this being the bottom three.
They were all pretty poor this week, but Johns was NOT the worst.

Mrs. S. also thought it was cruel the way Ryan teased whether Michael was actually going on Idol Gives Back week. I agree.

[Sadara]

I'm shocked!!

There are three or four other people who should have gone home, not Michael.

[JFriday]

That was cold to tell him last year they didn't send anyone home during Give back week then telling him he was gone.

[debtoine]

I'm kinda glad he's gone. Never cared for him, or his performances.

I actually do like Jason and Brooke (until she talks back at the judges ;) )

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[thudtrain]

That was cold to tell him last year they didn't send anyone home during Give back week then telling him he was gone.

Holy crap was that awful. A little glimmer of hope in Michael's eyes, only to be instantly crushed.

Well if they wanted a stunned crowd on one of these results shows, they got it. Michael was stunned he was leaving, Carly looked stunned she was staying. Paula's mouth was about on the floor.

[MusicMama]

That was cold to tell him last year they didn't send anyone home during Give back week then telling him he was gone.

Yep, daughter and I were literally booing at Ryan for that!! :mad::mad:
And, Michael should have stayed.
Wow did Dialidol get it WRONG!

I know I voted for Michael, and it wasn't even easy to get through for him.:confused:

[uncdrew]

At this point, all of the remaining contestants are pretty good singers, so it's not a matter of best or worst. Someone good was going home no matter who it was.

I don't think Michael has really connected much with the audience. There were some people here that thought he was nice to look at, but as far as singing, he didn't really stand out or make a niche. David Cook is better at the rocker songs, Archuleta and Castro are better at the ballads and folk-type stuff. He did really well on Bohemian Rhapsody, and has had a couple other performances that were pretty good, but overall, I don't think he's ever lived up to the potential that we all expected from that initial performance in Hollywood.

Well said.

We're down to good singers. Now we get issues about splitting the vote and such. David Cook has the pole position on "white rocker" and it left Michael Johns without many votes.

He's better than Kristy, but she's the last hottie. Syesha is the last black woman and that might get her more than her share of votes for a few weeks.

[thudtrain]

He's better than Kristy, but she's the last hottie.

You don't think Syesha is a hottie? Good lord that girl is freaking gorgeous. She's also boring as all hell to me. I think she's got a great voice, I just don't like it for some reason.

[DevdogAZ]

So who were all the "celebrities" in the little Mamas and Papas montage toward the beginning of the show. I recognized Zach and Cody, Dr. Phil, Rachael Ray, Michael Chiklis, Kat Deely, George Lopez, Kobe Bryant, Pauly Shore, and probably a couple others that I can't remember, but there were also several I didn't recognize, and some whose names I should have known but couldn't place.

[crazywater]

He should thank the Lord he was voted out...now he can concentrate on making an album of what he wants to sing and not the clap trap that Idol would have made him record...

[Cindy1230]

Yep, daughter and I were literally booing at Ryan for that!! :mad::mad:
And, Michael should have stayed.
Wow did Dialidol get it WRONG!

I know I voted for Michael, and it wasn't even easy to get through for him.:confused:

:mad::mad::mad:
I'm not one to use profanity... but what a d!ck thing ryan did. Completely unnecessary!!!
(I had already shut down the computer and was getting ready to go to bed, but I had to come on here say that)

I knew Michael wasn't going to win, but I thought he was a better performer than some others.

[Cindy1230]

So who were all the "celebrities" in the little Mamas and Papas montage toward the beginning of the show. I recognized Zach and Cody, Dr. Phil, Rachael Ray, Michael Chiklis, Kat Deely, George Lopez, Kobe Bryant, Pauly Shore, and probably a couple others that I can't remember, but there were also several I didn't recognize, and some whose names I should have known but couldn't place.

Eddie Izzard from The Riches, Emily Proctor form CSI Miami, Ricki Lake, Kyra Sedgwick, Selma Blair, Rob Schneider, Cheryl Hines, Baby spice, Willie Garson, that chick from the pussycat dolls, kyle minogue...
That wasn't rachael ray or pauly shore.
Who was the super dancy one in the red top?

[DevdogAZ]

The "dancy" one was Kat Deely, the host of "So You Think You Can Dance." Are you sure Rachael Ray and Pauly Shore weren't in there?

[MickeS]

I didn't have a problem with Johns going home, he's been the most anonymous of the remaining 8 in my opinion. The worst performance of this week was David Cook's, but he's still more interesting than Johns. They got the bottom 3 about right, but I hope Syesha stays in, she has personality (Carly is meh, but she has been better than Johns overall). Actually all the 7 remaining have something going for them.

[Kamakzie]

Ryan has always been a bit tactless at times with his delivery when it comes to sending someone home.

[Cindy1230]

The "dancy" one was Kat Deely, the host of "So You Think You Can Dance." Are you sure Rachael Ray and Pauly Shore weren't in there?

Ahh. Kat Deely.
Yeah, i rewatched just for you ;)
Thats was Ricki Lake and Rob Schiender

[jsmeeker]

Ryan has always been a bit tactless at times with his delivery when it comes to sending someone home.

he reads those cards very well.


yeah, the writers were a little harsh tonight..

[uncdrew]

You don't think Syesha is a hottie? Good lord that girl is freaking gorgeous. She's also boring as all hell to me. I think she's got a great voice, I just don't like it for some reason.

Ooops.

Yes, definite hottie. But I agree, I don't get much from her personality.


When I was typing I was thinking blonde but typed hottie. Kristy is the last hot blonde (I find Brooke attractive but not really a hottie).

[appleye1]

Mrs. S. also thought it was cruel the way Ryan teased whether Michael was actually going on Idol Gives Back week. I agree.Yeah, that was a big mess. I assume that was unscripted and off the cuff. Bad idea. That's the one part of the show that should be completely scripted and then followed to the letter.

[DevdogAZ]

Ahh. Kat Deely.
Yeah, i rewatched just for you ;)
Thats was Ricki Lake and Rob Schiender

I just watched again, and you are right about Rob Schneider. As for the one that my kids told me was Rachael Ray, it's actually the really obnoxious judge from SYTYCD, the one with the really loud, annoying laugh.

[MickeS]

Yeah, that was a big mess. I assume that was unscripted and off the cuff. Bad idea. That's the one part of the show that should be completely scripted and then followed to the letter.

I think they followed the script, but they got a bit tripped up, because there seemed to be confusion when Ryan said "Syesha... and Carly... you're safe". They seemed to not believe that it meant that Johns was getting booted, even though it was said as it usually is. I guess the fact that there were three of them there confused them.

[spikedavis]

So that ******bag with the dreadlocks is still there and Michael is gone?

********.

[bigpuma]

Wow did Dialidol get it WRONG!


How do you figure? They listed him as one of the possible contestants to finish last. There is no way they can be that accurate but at least they give you an idea of who is definitely safe.

[jpwoof]

How do you figure? They listed him as one of the possible contestants to finish last. There is no way they can be that accurate but at least they give you an idea of who is definitely safe.

the way i see it.. the producers get to pick from the bottom 3 who gets home first. Michael may not have the lowest number of votes.

[MickeS]

the way i see it.. the producers get to pick from the bottom 3 who gets home first. Michael may not have the lowest number of votes.

Sigh. So you're saying that Ryan is lying when he said "Michael has the lowest number of votes this week"?

[Tiger]

Well I called the bottom 3 (Mostly... I wavered on Syesha and said maybe Brooke instead) but I was as shocked as everyone that Michael was gone. Even Simon looked a bit shocked by it. I was honestly expecting Carly or Syesha to go.

[Jesda]

So that ******bag with the dreadlocks is still there and Michael is gone?

********.

:up:

[atrac]

Well, l think we have our evidence that teenage girls rule AI and David Archuleta is going to win.

Everyone has a bad week (even Archuleta), and personally I think Michael Johns should have been one of the contenders. I also like Carly a lot (more than Michael too).

By the way, I find dreadlocks to be horrible disgusting to look it. It makes me stomach turn to even type it. It's like looking at someone who never cuts their nails. Blech!

*runs for cover*

[tonyzhu]

Brooke is not a very good singer.
I think so...

[leana]

UGH I can not stand Archuletta with his "gosh golly" behavior. He also screwed up major lyrics in the Rent song. This ikid is like a trained seal and doesn't even know what he is singing about.

Syesha is a snippy girl who needs to go. Can't stand her.

Ryan was tacky doing that little fake out.

[appleye1]

UGH I can not stand Archuletta with his "gosh golly" behavior.Oh yeah, he reminds me of a male Melinda Doolittle. I loved her singing but the sallyfield-esque "you love me..you really love me!" got on my nerves big time.

Some people take humble to the extreme.

[super dave]

**** ** **** ***** **** ******* *** * **** ***!!!!!


:)

[JLucPicard]

Wow I'm surprised they are doing this group song on secular television. I wonder how many of the contestants are non-Christians? I have no problem with it because I grew up Christian and still am, just not practicing.
I wasn't too surprised it being inspriation week and all. What I was a bit surprised about was the change they made to it on IGB night opening with "My Shepherd" instead of "My Jesus". What, they're going to offend people so they won't give? Whatever. Glad to see they did it right on results night. I mean, were they fooling anybody about who the song was referring to?

[marct]

Wow!

[marct]

I called this one - ranked Michael Johns 7th out of 8 Tuesday night. He had no sound of his own, and only really sounded good when he was consciously trying to sound like someone else. But I think what killed him was the awful falsetto at the end on Tuesday night. That's the last thing people heard, and it was just plain bad.

I agree with you 100%. You can't pick a song that every single person in America knows as a great song, performed by a stunning person and F*ck it up., with a Capital F.

He never really picked and stuck to a style even though the judges continued to say you bluesy stuff is the best by far.... WAKE UP!

Although I think he gets a contract pretty quick, he just needs a good producer to guide him.

Random Trivia, Aerosmith originally published that song as a single in... 1973

[MonsterJoe]

I think that is pretty harsh...I don't think he f'd it up at all, let alone a capital F.

It wasn't an opera falsetto, it was a gritty rock falsetto and it was perfect for that. I'll watch it again on youtube just to make sure though.

[edit: ok, the beginning of it was a little weak...falsettos like that are really hard to hit on the first note (much harder than all the other registers) and are easier when warmed up to. That's why he nailed the 3rd and 4th falsetto notes...but it didn't take away from the performance for me. certainly not enough to send him home]

I don't disagree that he lacked a musical identity, but his performance was one of the better of the night.

[BrandonRe]

I don't think he should have gone home this week. But I agree with Randy and Simon that he never established himself as who he is. I don't think he knows who he is as an artist. I have said it before and I'll repeat it. Michael Johns could make a fortune singing country music. I have heard it in his voice, and I think he would be very successful in today's country scene.

[Jebberwocky!]

I thought Carly should have gone home but I'll settle for Johns. I can wait till next week for her to leave.

I also think that Kristy Lee Cook is the one singer who has improved a little bit as the competition goes along. I don't think she'll be going home for a while.

[MonsterJoe]

I thought Carly should have gone home but I'll settle for Johns. I can wait till next week for her to leave.

I also think that Kristy Lee Cook is the one singer who has improved a little bit as the competition goes along. I don't think she'll be going home for a while.

I would agree with that. All of it.

It was funny, after Carly performed my wife turned to me and said, "Wow, I feel like she wanted to kick my ass for some reason."

Then Simon said that thing about her singing angry...too funny.

She has a hard time appearing vulnerable...very intense. I think that turns people off.

I understand that she is a really good singer...she just doesn't do it for me.

[LoadStar]

Wow I'm surprised they are doing this group song on secular television. I wonder how many of the contestants are non-Christians? I have no problem with it because I grew up Christian and still am, just not practicing.

That was my first thought about it when they did it on Idol Gives Back night.

(My second thought when they performed it on Idol Gives Back, was that it was interesting to follow up a praise and worship song, with a scripted comedy bit featuring Ben Stiller supposedly swearing his head off as he storms off the stage. Yes, I know it's just a comedy bit, but it seemed rather incongruous.)

[MickeS]

I would agree with that. All of it.

It was funny, after Carly performed my wife turned to me and said, "Wow, I feel like she wanted to kick my ass for some reason."

Then Simon said that thing about her singing angry...too funny.

She has a hard time appearing vulnerable...very intense. I think that turns people off.

I understand that she is a really good singer...she just doesn't do it for me.

Carly always sounds like she's really, really pissed off when she's trying to be emotional.

[Jebberwocky!]

Carly always sounds like she's really, really pissed off when she's trying to be emotional.

I just don't enjoy watching her sing - not that she is bad looking and I usually favor darker haired women but she just doesn't so much for me visually. She makes funny faces when she sings :)

[thudtrain]

Carly always sounds like she's really, really pissed off when she's trying to be emotional.

She also seems like she thinks this is her last chance to make something of her life, and is getting more and more desperate as the show goes along. It's a little uncomfortable.

[nyny523]

She also seems like she thinks this is her last chance to make something of her life, and is getting more and more desperate as the show goes along. It's a little uncomfortable.

I would agree with this - she just doesn't seem to be having as much "fun" as the others, and it shows.

Remember, she has had a recording contract before and failed. I think she will have to win this or come very close for another record company to take a chance on her....

[Cearbhaill]

I think they sang the Jesus song again because so many people complained that they missed it when their Tivo cut off when Idol Gives Back ran so late.

I was surprised about Michael. While he was by no means my favorite performer, I liked his voice. It has a Paul Rogers quality to it which probably explains why he always did so well on the Queen covers. But song choice and his insistence on impersonating other singers did him in. He just could not seem to do a Michael Johns version of anything- it was always Morrison, or Tyler, or someone else. He also had terrible affectations as far as handling the mic, and the ascot/scarf fetish annoyed me no end. I also think that he was a bit too old, and as prepubescent girls do a majority of the voting on these type shows IMO, his mojo may have just been a little threatening for their taste.

[jlb]

I eagerly await a Michael Johns CD. The same exact way I eagerly awaited the Chris Daughtry CD.

[MickeS]

I eagerly await a Michael Johns CD. The same exact way I eagerly awaited the Chris Daughtry CD.

I think the only ones I'm looking forward to hearing a CD from is David Cook and Kristy Lee Cook.

[uncdrew]

Well, l think we have our evidence that teenage girls rule AI and David Archuleta is going to win.

David is my bet to win for that reason and that he gets the vote from females at almost any age. I can see the teeny-girls voting for him, the grammas voting for him, etc. etc.

[brettatk]

To be honest I don't really have a favorite anymore. If David Cook was not so arrogant then he'd probably be it. Also if David Archuleta had a brain and his dad didnt control everything he does I might like him as well. My wife was upset that Michael Johns was going home. I'm guessing it will boil down to either Cook or Archuleta. There just isnt a girl strong enough in talent or voting that can compete with them. Although Castro could sneak in there with the teeny bop vote.

[MickeS]

I hope Syesha wins.

[MacThor]

Maybe David A's dad is using a "mosquito" device to hypnotize all the teenage girls voting for his son, and the rest of us are blissfully unable to hear it.

[nyny523]

What is the deal with David A's dad???? :confused:

And I also think this will come down to the 2 Davids in the end.

[Jesda]

David Archiebunker needs to go.

[Jebberwocky!]

David Archiebunker needs to go.

he'll be gone - after everyone else!

[Kablemodem]

I just don't enjoy watching her sing - not that she is bad looking and I usually favor darker haired women but she just doesn't so much for me visually. She makes funny faces when she sings :)
And she has a second head on her arm.

[Jebberwocky!]

And she has a second head on her arm.

there's that - not to mention her husband as well

[DevdogAZ]

To be honest I don't really have a favorite anymore. If David Cook was not so arrogant then he'd probably be it. Also if David Archuleta had a brain and his dad didnt control everything he does I might like him as well. My wife was upset that Michael Johns was going home. I'm guessing it will boil down to either Cook or Archuleta. There just isnt a girl strong enough in talent or voting that can compete with them. Although Castro could sneak in there with the teeny bop vote.
You just contradicted yourself.

[jwehman]

What is the deal with David A's dad???? :confused:



I'm also lost on the whole "Archuletta's Dad" thing. I've watched every show, though I haven't read every thread this season. Maybe it's an "insider" TCF thing. :confused:

[MickeS]

I'm also lost on the whole "Archuletta's Dad" thing. I've watched every show, though I haven't read every thread this season. Maybe it's an "insider" TCF thing. :confused:

It has been implied in rumours that he's a very controlling stage dad who has been making song selections for David. No idea if it's true or not.

[Cearbhaill]

When David A. was on Junior Star Search his father was allegedly banned from the set for both his treatment of David and his interactions with other contestants. Word is that he is a micromanager stage Dad who controls every clothing choice, song choice, and so on.
I have no facts to back this up. It's just what's going around.

I do think that David looks like he's afraid he's going to "get in trouble" if he performs poorly. I see him glancing towards Dad way too frequently. That's just my feeling.

They should raise the Idol age to 18 and eliminate even the possibility of a child being treated like this by a parent.

[Havana Brown]

I disliked that Carly kept looking at the camera and when the announcer said someone will go home she pointed at herself.

I didn't think Ryan was a prick for sending Michael home. Last year they didn't on Idol Gives Back, but this year they had an extra night, so why not. They sang on Tuesday, if they didn't send someone home, it was a waste of a week. Last year was the first, so it was a surprise.

[DevdogAZ]

I didn't think Ryan was a prick for sending Michael home. Last year they didn't on Idol Gives Back, but this year they had an extra night, so why not. They sang on Tuesday, if they didn't send someone home, it was a waste of a week. Last year was the first, so it was a surprise.
I don't think anyone is saying that Ryan was a prick to send Michael home. That's what the show is for. What was cruel was him basically announcing that Michael was gone (by saying that the other two were safe) and then saying, "Last year on Idol Gives Back Week we didn't send anyone home," which surely caused Michael (and everyone else) to think he was getting off the hook. Then he simply said, "This year, we're saying goodbye to Michael Johns." It was cruel that he crushed him, then got his hopes back up, then crushed him again.

[MickeS]

I didn't think Ryan was a prick for sending Michael home. Last year they didn't on Idol Gives Back, but this year they had an extra night, so why not. They sang on Tuesday, if they didn't send someone home, it was a waste of a week. Last year was the first, so it was a surprise.

I think the objection is about the way he did it, making it sound at first as if they would not eliminate anyone this time too.

[Kamakzie]

When David A. was on Junior Star Search his father was allegedly banned from the set for both his treatment of David and his interactions with other contestants. Word is that he is a micromanager stage Dad who controls every clothing choice, song choice, and so on.
I have no facts to back this up. It's just what's going around.

I do think that David looks like he's afraid he's going to "get in trouble" if he performs poorly. I see him glancing towards Dad way too frequently. That's just my feeling.

They should raise the Idol age to 18 and eliminate even the possibility of a child being treated like this by a parent.

David's dad also supposedly tried to get the girl who was David's competition to drink milk before she sang so it would wreck her singing voice. She declined and beat David.

[Jebberwocky!]

I think the objection is about the way he did it, making it sound at first as if they would not eliminate anyone this time too.

yes, there was no need to tease anyone in that situation

[LoadStar]

I still like Brooke when she does what she does best: singing while sitting at a piano or other keyboard. Doing anything else seems to move her out of her comfort zone and she doesn't have nearly as good of a performance. In those instances, she's not BAD, she's just average.

Kristy Lee is just not good. Sorry, she should be gone already, almost definitely should've been gone before Michael.

Jason Castro doesn't have a strong voice, and doesn't have a stage presence at all. Additionally, his appearance (the dreads) is very off-putting to many people, myself included. He might be a good local act that you would hear play in a coffee shop or something, not a major label recording artist.

Carly... her biggest problem is that she looks (sort of) like a rocker chick with all the tattoos and stuff, but she doesn't really sound like one. She also shares with Syesha another problem: neither really stand out particularly well as stars. There's a certain amount of charisma that's required for this, and IMHO, neither Syesha nor Carly have it.

Archuleta is out of his league at this point. Not as bad as some of the other younger contestants they've had in years past, but still clearly needing several (at least 2-3) years to really develop into a good performer.

I'd say David Cook is really the strongest performer they have left.

[ADG]

^ Wow, I have to disagree with most of your assessments. I think David A. is the odds on favorite at this point (and have heard all three judges say as much on other shows) with David C. giving him tough competition down the stretch. I still think Carly has one of the best voices and should also contend. Kristy Lee isn't good? She may not be the best, but in my opinion she's certainly pretty good - especially when she's in her niche (Country, of course). I do agree with you about Brooke & Jason, though I think I like Syesha a little more than you do. When she's on, she's very good.

Still, one of my early picks for final four is now gone (MJ). David A, David C, Carly & Jason for the last four? That's my guess right now.

[LoadStar]

^ Wow, I have to disagree with most of your assessments. I think David A. is the odds on favorite at this point (and have heard all three judges say as much on other shows) with David C. giving him tough competition down the stretch. I still think Carly has one of the best voices and should also contend. Kristy Lee isn't good? She may not be the best, but in my opinion she's certainly pretty good - especially when she's in her niche (Country, of course). I do agree with you about Brooke & Jason, though I think I like Syesha a little more than you do. When she's on, she's very good.

Still, one of my early picks for final four is now gone (MJ). David A, David C, Carly & Jason for the last four? That's my guess right now.

Heh - in the end, it doesn't sound like you disagreed with "most" of my assessments, only David and Kristy Lee. :D

Kristy Lee is best when doing country... but that's faint praise coming from me, because even then she's just OK, not anywhere close to recording artist worthy. I still remember when she took that Beatles song and did it country style, and it was the biggest train wreck of the season, by far. It was MILES away from being good. I also compare to some of the country artists they've had in years past - Carrie Underwood, Josh Gracin, even Bucky Covington and Kelly Pickler, and all were far, far, FAR better than Kristy Lee.

As far as Archuleta goes... well, I'll just have to stand by what I said. He looks, acts, and sounds like a kid still. He's got a good voice, no argument, and if he were just a little older and a little more mature, he might have my vote for runaway winner... but this year, he's not ready yet. He could use some intensive professional voice training, for one... he could have much better control of his tone, and much better breathing technique throughout. Additionally, there's other non-singing stuff that also contributes... he has these nervous little tics throughout his performances, and he always looks like he's looking for approval from his dad and others. Plus, in all of his interviews and taped intros, he still comes across as a kid. (Edit to add: I still think he's probably going to be at least one of the final two, just because he's got the pre-teen market swooning over how cute he is and such.)

As for Syesha, I agree with you - but even when she's on and very, very good, I'm not getting much of her personality coming through, which is probably her biggest problem there. It's just a very good performance from an anonymous person. At this point in the season, I still don't feel like I know who Syesha really is. I can get a pretty good idea of just about everyone else except her.

[nyny523]

Kristy won't win - but she will get a recording contract from someone in Country.

Hell, if Bucky can get a contract, anyone can!!! :D

[MickeS]

Kristy Lee is best when doing country... but that's faint praise coming from me, because even then she's just OK, not anywhere close to recording artist worthy. I still remember when she took that Beatles song and did it country style, and it was the biggest train wreck of the season, by far. It was MILES away from being good. I also compare to some of the country artists they've had in years past - Carrie Underwood, Josh Gracin, even Bucky Covington and Kelly Pickler, and all were far, far, FAR better than Kristy Lee.


Underwood for sure, but no way is she worse than Bucky and Pickler. I still don't understand how they got recording contracts.

As for Syesha, I agree with you - but even when she's on and very, very good, I'm not getting much of her personality coming through, which is probably her biggest problem there. It's just a very good performance from an anonymous person. At this point in the season, I still don't feel like I know who Syesha really is. I can get a pretty good idea of just about everyone else except her.

That's how I felt about Michael Johns.

[ADG]

See, and I think Syesha has more personality than most of the others combined. Just goes to show how people see (and hear) things differently and vote as they do. Vanilla, chocolate - like that :). And again regarding David A. - he is a kid. Maybe that's part of his appeal for many (though not for me - I do agree with you I just don't care for many of his actions and reactions) - actually what I like least about his performances is the "forced eye closing" - as though that adds feeling to the performance. But his voice and singing style are just outstanding. And in the end, I guess it's supposed to be singing contest.

Oh - and regarding MJ - I didn't care much for his physical actions during his performances - always seemed a little awkward and phony to me. But I loved his voice and was very surprised to see him go last night - though I guess at this point anyone can be voted off.

[wprager]

It has been implied in rumours that he's a very controlling stage dad who has been making song selections for David. No idea if it's true or not.

I don't care about their relationship; I just wish he wouldn't wear a hat *every freakin' time*. What's the worst that he could be hiding -- a bad bald spot? a comb-over? Voldemort?

Also, would it really kill Carly to wear sleeves? She's gone sleeveless every show except one (or at least only one I recall watching -- I started at Hollywood week).

My better half gasped when the result was announced -- I guess she's with "Mrs. S." Personally, while I think a few could have gone before him, he himself could have been gone a couple of weeks ago. His range was limited (the last note on performance night -- woof! glad he decided against it last night). I loved when he channeled Jim Morrison, and didn't cringe too much when he did Bohemian Rhapsody (I usually do whenever someone attempts it), but he has not improved since then.

Also, how is "Dream On" an inspirational song?

[dmlove51]

I for one (a non-Christian) found the "shepherd/Jesus" song completely inappropriate. :down:

Does anyone know when and where they were in Uganda? It wasn't Kampala (the capital).

[MickeS]

I for one (a non-Christian) found the "shepherd/Jesus" song completely inappropriate. :down:

What was inappropriate about it? That you might not like people mentioning Jesus doesn't make it inappropriate.

[nyny523]

Also, would it really kill Carly to wear sleeves? She's gone sleeveless every show except one (or at least only one I recall watching -- I started at Hollywood week).



The one time she wore sleeves (short sleeves), it was a top made by my company! :up: :)

[Jesda]

Kristy Lee Cook already recorded an album. Its on iTunes and it stinks. After this she'll probably sign with a major label with proper tools for writing and producing.

[Cainebj]

there's that - not to mention her husband as well

Her husband is HOT. Damn, I'd do him in a NY minute.

[PJO1966]

I for one (a non-Christian) found the "shepherd/Jesus" song completely inappropriate. :down:


I'm glad I'm not the only one.

[Roadblock]

Kristy Lee Cook already recorded an album. Its on iTunes and it stinks. After this she'll probably sign with a major label with proper tools for writing and producing.

So did Brooke (http://www.amazon.com/Songs-Attic-Brooke-White/dp/B000KF0X0W/ref=pd_sim_m_title_5).

Oddly enough, Dream On was on there.

[dmlove51]

What was inappropriate about it? That you might not like people mentioning Jesus doesn't make it inappropriate.


I don't care if people sing, talk, discuss, believe, love, hate, etc. about Jesus in the appropriate setting. A television show that is supposedly for "everyone" is not an appropriate setting.

[Roadblock]

I don't care if people sing, talk, discuss, believe, love, hate, etc. about Jesus in the appropriate setting. A television show that is supposedly for "everyone" is not an appropriate setting.

Oh please. It's one song. Are you saying all of the other songs performed on the show are equally accepted as appropriate by "everyone"?

[SnakeEyes]

I for one (a non-Christian) found the "shepherd/Jesus" song completely inappropriate. :down:

How tolerant and open-minded of you.

Do you have a problem with it being on the Idol special too or just last night? Because it is appropriate regardless, it's music and the theme was "Inspiration Week", but especially appropriate on Idol Gives Back. It was a show about compassion and giving which is supposed to be part of the Christian faith. Appealing to Christians on a charity is not only appropriate but wise too since study after study shows that on average religious people tend to give more money to charities and causes than those that say they are not religious. Much of the philanthropy that exists today in the US comes via churches.

I know people of faith who don't buy Idol songs but loved that they sang that song and purchased it on iTunes. I wouldn't be surprised to learn it raised a lot of money, perhaps influencing it being performed last night too.

And on Idol Gives Back, they altered the lyrics to remove the one direct reference to Jesus and make it a song to people of all faith.

[JLucPicard]

I don't care if people sing, talk, discuss, believe, love, hate, etc. about Jesus in the appropriate setting. A television show that is supposedly for "everyone" is not an appropriate setting.
I thought that song was a WHOLE lot more appropriate for "Inspiration Week" than 'Dream On'.

[LoadStar]

I think the only thing that could possibly be "inappropriate" about the song is, as I mentioned earlier, if some of the contestants don't necessarily agree with the message of the song, yet were made to sing it anyway. That would place the contestant(s) who disagree with the message of the song in a particularly awkward place. (It's possible that it was actually something all the contestants all agreed to do and asked the producers to include in the shows. I don't know that is entirely LIKELY, but it's a possibility.)

As far as including it in the show - nothing wrong with that, although on Idol Gives Back night, the timing of it and the comedy bit that followed was equally awkward.

[MickeS]

I don't care if people sing, talk, discuss, believe, love, hate, etc. about Jesus in the appropriate setting. A television show that is supposedly for "everyone" is not an appropriate setting.

Were you forced to sing it or something? If you can't even listen to people singing about Jesus, you have must have very thin skin. I thought the song was very appropriate for this show, it was beautiful and uplifting.

[Kamakzie]

So did Brooke (http://www.amazon.com/Songs-Attic-Brooke-White/dp/B000KF0X0W/ref=pd_sim_m_title_5).

Oddly enough, Dream On was on there.

Who would be insane enough to pay $75, let alone the person charging $1000!!!!!!!!!

[Uncle Briggs]

I would have liked to have seen all of the bottom three go home.:p

[DevdogAZ]

I would have liked to have seen all of the bottom three go home.:p
I agree. It's inevitable sooner than later, may as well just get it over with.

[danielhart]

Were you forced to sing it or something? If you can't even listen to people singing about Jesus, you have must have very thin skin. I thought the song was very appropriate for this show, it was beautiful and uplifting.

And I thought Janet Jackson's titty was beautiful and uplifting, but I understand that when most people tune in to the Super Bowl, they aren't really expecting frontal nudity. Well, as a secular person, when I tune into what I expect to be a non-religous pop music program, I don't really dig having the whole Christianity trip shoved down my throat........

[DevdogAZ]

And I thought Janet Jackson's titty was beautiful and uplifting, but I understand that when most people tune in to the Super Bowl, they aren't really expecting frontal nudity. Well, as a secular person, when I tune into what I expect to be a non-religous pop music program, I don't really dig having the whole Christianity trip shoved down my throat........
This attitude highlights the hypocrisy that permeates the anti-Christian movement. You'd likely be raising holy hell if people were calling something you believe in "inappropriate." And rightly so, because who are we to criticize what inspires someone else?

What happened to tolerance? Why can't you simply be happy that they sang a nice song, regardless of the lyrics, and enjoy the fact that it was meaningful for lots of people, even if you're not one of them. Not every song (speech, person, etc.) can float everyone's boat.

[SnakeEyes]

I'm amazed that a couple Christian songs out of the however-many-songs in a season is "having the whole Christianity trip shoved down" his throat. Little perspective here?

[JLucPicard]

It cracks me up that for all the people who gladly state "I FF through a lot of the performances" that if someone feels that something is being "shoved down their throat" that they just don't likewise hit the FF button. Shoving avoided.

And another thing I've always wondered about - do the people who FF through the performances vote, too? ;)

[danielhart]

This attitude highlights the hypocrisy that permeates the anti-Christian movement. You'd likely be raising holy hell if people were calling something you believe in "inappropriate." And rightly so, because who are we to criticize what inspires someone else?

What happened to tolerance? Why can't you simply be happy that they sang a nice song, regardless of the lyrics, and enjoy the fact that it was meaningful for lots of people, even if you're not one of them. Not every song (speech, person, etc.) can float everyone's boat.

lol. So now I am part of the "anti-Christian" movement because I expressed my opinion. Tone down the paranoia pal. And you make my point perfectly btw. I am a huge believer in naked breasts, but I completely understood why people found that display at the Super Bowl to be inappropriate. I wonder how all of the "tolerant" and "non-hypocrite" Christians in this country would have felt if they had chosen to do a litle Muslim ditty, with background singers in burkas instead of the church choir in the flowing purple robes? But then again, I guess I am using a bad analogy - because I think many devout Muslims believe music itself is a sin.......the real point is, there is a time and a place for everything, but it seems in this country that if you point that out to some Christians, they just about lose their f-ing minds....

[MickeS]

And I thought Janet Jackson's titty was beautiful and uplifting, but I understand that when most people tune in to the Super Bowl, they aren't really expecting frontal nudity. Well, as a secular person, when I tune into what I expect to be a non-religous pop music program, I don't really dig having the whole Christianity trip shoved down my throat........

Do you really take the lyrics about what the performer of that song is expressing so personally? The performer was expressing HIS/HER joy and thanks, not telling YOU to believe in Jesus.

[danielhart]

Do you really take the lyrics about what the performer of that song is expressing so personally? The performer was expressing HIS/HER joy and thanks, not telling YOU to believe in Jesus.

"Shout to the Lord, all the earth
Let us sing.
Power and majesty, praise to the king."

lol.

[Roadblock]

I don't really dig having the whole Christianity trip shoved down my throat........

Maybe you can send AI your approved list of songs so they don't accidentally shove anything else down your throat.

[Jesda]

I for one (a non-Christian) found the "shepherd/Jesus" song completely inappropriate. :down:

Does anyone know when and where they were in Uganda? It wasn't Kampala (the capital).

I'm not a Christian, but I find you to be whiny and paranoid.

[TiVoCrastinator]

I for one (a non-Christian) found the "shepherd/Jesus" song completely inappropriate. :down:

As a Christian, I found it inappropriate that a worship song would be used in such a mainstream secular show, sung by people who most likely don't believe the words. I guess it was sort of passed off as a gospel/inspirational song, what with all the choir robes in the background.

[jwehman]

...sung by people who most likely don't believe the words.

That's between God and them...who are we to judge? As a Christian, I was thrilled to be hearing one of my favorite songs sung on AI. Though, I was a little uncertain as to the general public reception (hence I'm not surprised at this direction of the thread...)

[super dave]

I'm amazed that a couple Christian songs out of the however-many-songs in a season is "having the whole Christianity trip shoved down" his throat. Little perspective here?

I just thought the song sucked, plain and simple. I FF'd through it because I didn't like it.

[David Platt]

I didn't find the Christian-themed song any more appropriate or inappropriate than when David Archuleta sang the anti-religion themed 'Imagine.' I don't remember any uproar over that one. Is it okay to sing anti-religious songs but not pro-religious ones?

[SnakeEyes]

As a Christian, I found it inappropriate that a worship song would be used in such a mainstream secular show, sung by people who most likely don't believe the words.

As a Christian, I find your assumptions and judgments of people you don't know to be appalling and rather unchristian.

[danielhart]

I didn't find the Christian-themed song any more appropriate or inappropriate than when David Archuleta sang the anti-religion themed 'Imagine.' I don't remember any uproar over that one. Is it okay to sing anti-religious songs but not pro-religious ones?

The difference is, and it is a point which seems to be lost on many of the good folk here, is that when Archuleta sung Imagine, or when Carrie Underwood sings Jesus Take the Wheel, or when Kristly Lee Cook pimps out patriotism in an effort to glean votes, it is a choice an artist makes in the form of personal expression (similar to what Micke S. has been incorrectly trying to say this performance was). Fine. But what they did on the AI results show was far from that. This song wasn't just "Christian-themed" - it was an overtly Christian-specific religious display which was chosen and/or approved by the show to be sung by all of the artists accompanied by a church choir replete in flowing robes.

My truth is this: As an American who believes in the Constitution, I would willingly fight and die for the right of any American to practice any religious belief or doctrine, or to practice or believe in nothing at all. I just believe that at a group level, it is more appropriate for these types of displays to take place in a church, or at a prayer group, or at a spiritual revival meeting, etc.

And it is a free country, and Fox/Rupert Mudoch can do what they want. Personally, if they keep this type of thing up, I will just excercise my right to change the channel. I pretty much limit my viewing time on FOX to sporting events and AI anyways. I can't give up the Super Bowl, but AI is pretty tired anyways.....

[MickeS]

The difference is, and it is a point which seems to be lost on many of the good folk here, is that when Archuleta sung Imagine, or when Carrie Underwood sings Jesus Take the Wheel, or when Kristly Lee Cook pimps out patriotism in an effort to glean votes, it is a choice an artist makes in the form of personal expression (similar to what Micke S. has been incorrectly trying to say this performance was). Fine. But what they did on the AI results show was far from that. This song wasn't just "Christian-themed" - it was an overtly Christian-specific religious display which was chosen and/or approved by the show to be sung by all of the artists accompanied by a church choir replete in flowing robes.

My truth is this: As an American who believes in the Constitution, I would willingly fight and die for the right of any American to practice any religious belief or doctrine, or to practice or believe in nothing at all. I just believe that at a group level, it is more appropriate for these types of displays to take place in a church, or at a prayer group, or at a spiritual revival meeting, etc.

And it is a free country, and Fox/Rupert Mudoch can do what they want. Personally, if they keep this type of thing up, I will just excercise my right to change the channel. I pretty much limit my viewing time on FOX to sporting events and AI anyways. I can't give up the Super Bowl, but AI is pretty tired anyways.....

I guess it's just a matter of interpretation. When someone sings, I don't assume they are singing directly to me. Maybe that's why I was able to listen to both Stryper and Slayer back in the day.
I find it rather ridiculous to even bring up the constitution here, but you're right, if you can't put up with people singing about Jesus, you can just change the channel.

[justapixel]

Gosh, I would hate to shut down an American Idol thread because of religious discussion.

So, let's keep it on who stays/goes, okay?

I can't believe people don't like Carly. I think she has the best voice in the competition. Plus, my sister knows her and says she's as sweet as can be. I hope that she knocks it out of the park this week. I think she, David Cook and David A. should be in the final three.

I do like Jason Castro but not enough for him to win.

[Cearbhaill]

I can't believe people don't like Carly. I think she has the best voice in the competition. Plus, my sister knows her and says she's as sweet as can be. I hope that she knocks it out of the park this week. I think she, David Cook and David A. should be in the final three.

I do like Jason Castro but not enough for him to win.
Carly makes funny faces when she sings and it looks like a huge strain on her to hit most of the notes. Singing should look more effortless.
And she's looking more and more desperate each week. And then there are the teeth :D

I don't hate her, really. But there is nothing about her that I really like, either.

I'll give you the two Davids in the final three (with Cook to win), but I'd prefer Jason as the third. They won't do three boys, though, so I know I'm wrong. For all I know Kristy will remain bulletproof.

[SnakeEyes]

It's not a religious discussion. It's a discussion of practices, content, and motivation on AI. :)

[DevdogAZ]

Can't stand to look at Castro. His voice is decent, but I can't believe that any white adult would choose to look as ridiculous as he does. Get him off my screen.

How's that for tolerance? ;)

[Roadblock]

I can't believe people don't like Carly. I think she has the best voice in the competition. Plus, my sister knows her and says she's as sweet as can be. I hope that she knocks it out of the park this week.

For me, she's the same as Michael. I like her and wanted her to be great but the problem is we've been waiting for her to knock it out of the park since this started and it just hasn't happened. A lot of her singing in her upper range seems strained, she hasn't picked a great song, and her facial expression is the same angry look every time. She's supposed to be getting better but she's not.

[AJRitz]

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Make it three. Just a complete turnoff. I FFx3 through it.

[justapixel]

I don't care about their relationship; I just wish he wouldn't wear a hat *every freakin' time*. What's the worst that he could be hiding -- a bad bald spot? a comb-over? Voldemort?





I guess his family lives in my area, and they are laughing at the control freak dad rumors. They say it's not true, and he isn't a stage-dad at all.

I think the hat looks stupid too. Be proud and bald and get a temporary rug to cover up your plugs.

By the way, I've deleted further religious discussion and will continue to do so. This isn't a comparative religion class.