Need an image? Don't PM me. :)

[unitron]

Still looking for an image for a sony svr-3000. My hard drive died. Thanks.

Here's one for $50, with spare parts and 2 remotes included.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ele/2747250823.html

Of course, unless this thing has a lifetime sub they forgot to mention, their opinion of the unit's worth is a topic on which they'll need re-educating.

(There are people giving away dual tuner S2s)

[Redoctobyr]

Could anyone help me get an image for a TCD 24004A? Thank you.

[unitron]

Could anyone help me get an image for a TCD 24004A? Thank you.

If you can use either of these

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8707432#post8707432

you're morally obligated to download both, to help keep them "in play" for the next person.

One's for restoring using the MFS Live cd and the other is for restoring with WinMFS.

Both are for the 24008A, which means you need at least an 80GB Maxtor (they had a slightly larger LBA number than the WD 80GB drives) or larger.

It's the same software, it's just that the image is of an installation with bigger MFS partitions.

If you want to use an up to 1TB SATA drive, read the adapter thread first.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=416883

(If you have to restore to the original 40GB drive, but can borrow or otherwise temporarily use a larger drive, let me know, there's something we can try)

[Redoctobyr]

Moral obligations completed, both are downloading. Thank you for the links. I had seen those mentioned, but did not realize I could use them for my TiVo, thanks. I will be restoring to an >80GB disk, so that should work fine.

FWIW, I have a Rosewill RC-203 SATA->IDE adapter which has been working very nicely for me, I was using it on a 640GB SATA disk.

Thank you very much for the quick reply!

[unitron]

Moral obligations completed, both are downloading. Thank you for the links. I had seen those mentioned, but did not realize I could use them for my TiVo, thanks. I will be restoring to an >80GB disk, so that should work fine.

FWIW, I have a Rosewill RC-203 SATA->IDE adapter which has been working very nicely for me, I was using it on a 640GB SATA disk.

Thank you very much for the quick reply!

Then, if you haven't already, go to the adapter thread and document exactly which adapter with exactly which chipset is working for you on exactly which drive(s) in exactly which TiVo, for the benefit of future searchers.

[vsaltv]

I really need a series 1 standalone image. Like an HDR112 or similar. Got a series 1 with no hard drive (must have removed it years ago and forgot about it). I bought instantcake years ago but I can't find the dang CD now. Thanks for the help.

[unitron]

I really need a series 1 standalone image. Like an HDR112 or similar. Got a series 1 with no hard drive (must have removed it years ago and forgot about it). I bought instantcake years ago but I can't find the dang CD now. Thanks for the help.

Is your S1 a Philips or a Sony?

[vsaltv]

Is your S1 a Philips or a Sony?

Philips

[unitron]

Philips

I might be able to help you in a few days if no one else comes to the rescue first.


In the meantime, read the adapter thread

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=416883

in case you want to put a decent sized drive in there.

Short version, only a Marvell chipset based adapter will work in an S1, and a Caviar Blue, SATA or PATA/IDE, either one, will not work in an S1.

[vsaltv]

please help if you can, I would really appreciate. I only need it so it can make a call to tivo to prove I have the unit to them so i can activate new lifetime service at the discount price. Wish I could remember why I took out the hard drive to begin with.

[lillevig]

please help if you can, I would really appreciate. I only need it so it can make a call to tivo to prove I have the unit to them so i can activate new lifetime service at the discount price. Wish I could remember why I took out the hard drive to begin with.

I have a working image (WINMFS) for the S1 Philips but it is over 6GB in size so I can't post it like I can with my other images. If no one else can get one to you, I would be willing to copy it to an 8GB flash drive or SDHC card if you send it to me.

[vsaltv]

I have a working image (WINMFS) for the S1 Philips but it is over 6GB in size so I can't post it like I can with my other images. If no one else can get one to you, I would be willing to copy it to an 8GB flash drive or SDHC card if you send it to me.

If i set up an ftp would you be able to upload it to me? I really hope so :)

[lillevig]

If i set up an ftp would you be able to upload it to me? I really hope so :)

I haven't tried that but would be willing to give it a go. I'll PM my e-mail address so you can send the necessary info to me. You won't be able to PM until you get at least 10 posts.

[unitron]

I have a working image (WINMFS) for the S1 Philips but it is over 6GB in size so I can't post it like I can with my other images. If no one else can get one to you, I would be willing to copy it to an 8GB flash drive or SDHC card if you send it to me.

That's like double huge for an S1 image, did you include a bunch of shows or something?

[vsaltv]

I haven't tried that but would be willing to give it a go. I'll PM my e-mail address so you can send the necessary info to me. You won't be able to PM until you get at least 10 posts.
I sent the mail.. can you believe i've been a member here for like what 6 yrs and still can't send a PM lol

not to mention when i first signed up i could send PMs, they must have taken it away

[vsaltv]

That's like double huge for an S1 image, did you include a bunch of shows or something?

I wouldn't mind if it was 10 gig heh, I am so happy to get an image!!!

[unitron]

please help if you can, I would really appreciate. I only need it so it can make a call to tivo to prove I have the unit to them so i can activate new lifetime service at the discount price. Wish I could remember why I took out the hard drive to begin with.

If you have a universal remote that'll do both Sony and Philips TiVos, then burn yourself a copy of the MFS Live cd (not WinMFS) and download the Sony image from this link

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=6228202#post6228202

and restore it onto a non-Caviar Blue drive of at least 30GB, no need for the -x option to expand for your purposes, and do not use the -p option either, because that's only for S2s and newer. While you're at it, skip the -z option as well.

[Also, if you use a drive larger than 128GB or 137GB, depending how you figure GB, I'm not sure if you'll need to run copykern (it's on a different cd, though. I can walk you through where to get it and how to how to use it to patch the kernel if that's necessary) to make the kernel LBA48 aware or not, since you won't be expanding.

We'll just have to wait and see on that one, but only if you use a drive that goes over the limit.]

That'll get the Philips up and running, and it's version 3 of the software so you can use a TurboNet card or a CacheCard to connect over the internet, or for telephone line connection an external modem (or use a program called pilotnet to connect to a 9 pin serial port on a computer with an internal modem and use that) if necessary (S1 modems are notorious for getting killed by spikes other equipment never notices).

Once we get your immediate problem solved we can work on getting you a proper Philips image for it later.
I think you'll have to use the Sony remote codes to control it.

[vsaltv]

If you have a universal remote that'll do both Sony and Philips TiVos, then burn yourself a copy of the MFS Live cd (not WinMFS) and download the Sony image from this link

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=6228202#post6228202

and restore it onto a non-Caviar Blue drive of at least 30GB, no need for the -x option to expand for your purposes, and do not use the -p option either, because that's only for S2s and newer. While you're at it, skip the -z option as well.

[Also, if you use a drive larger than 128GB or 137GB, depending how you figure GB, I'm not sure if you'll need to run copykern (it's on a different cd, though. I can walk you through where to get it and how to how to use it to patch the kernel if that's necessary) to make the kernel LBA48 aware or not, since you won't be expanding.

We'll just have to wait and see on that one, but only if you use a drive that goes over the limit.]

That'll get the Philips up and running, and it's version 3 of the software so you can use a TurboNet card or a CacheCard to connect over the internet, or for telephone line connection an external modem (or use a program called pilotnet to connect to a 9 pin serial port on a computer with an internal modem and use that) if necessary (S1 modems are notorious for getting killed by spikes other equipment never notices).

Once we get your immediate problem solved we can work on getting you a proper Philips image for it later.
I think you'll have to use the Sony remote codes to control it.
is it ok if the universal remote is infrared only? I have a few tivo brand remotes.

[unitron]

is it ok if the universal remote is infrared only? I have a few tivo brand remotes.

Almost all remotes are infrared only, unless you're talking about those expensive things.

When I say universal remote, I'm not talking about one of those $100-$300 things with more buttons than a fabric store, just a 3 or 4 device $10 to $20 type.

The Tivo brand remotes will run an S1 Philips-made TiVo, provided that it's running the S1 software intended for Philips-made TiVos, but we're going to be running Sony-made TiVo S1 software on that Philips-made S1 TiVo, so we need something that can do the Sony TiVo remote codes*, and a universal is cheaper and easier to lay your hands on than an actual Sony TiVo remote.

*There was also one Sony Series 2 TiVo.

Please note that if you got hold of a Philips S1 image, you won't need something that does Sony S1 codes. Only if you use that Sony image I linked to will you have to use the Sony remote codes.

If you use a Philips S1 image, any of those TiVo remotes you have should work just fine.

Now, what kind of hard drive are you going to be using?

[vsaltv]

Now, what kind of hard drive are you going to be using?

Let me look (trying to get 10 relevant posts heh)
OK I got a Seagate 10gb 9w1001 (will edit post when i find more hdd's they are everywhere)
Next is a Maxtor 5.7gb 90576d4
Next a Maxtor 200gb BAH41E00

I think that's all my old IDE style drives. I could also pull I believe a 40gb out of my DirectTivo unit if need be but would rather leave that along seeing how difficult it is to get images these days.

Can I expand the sony image on a 200gb drive but keep the partition under 137gb limit?

[lillevig]

That's like double huge for an S1 image, did you include a bunch of shows or something?

No shows but it does have all of my Guide data (didn't know about Clear and Delete Everything back then). I did it two different times, about a month apart, on the same 14GB original drive. If I still had the drive I'd put it back in, do a C&DE and try again. As of now the only one I have available to pull an image from is an 80GB drive. It has always mystified me as to why the S1 image is so huge compared to the S2 and S3 images I've pulled. I tried to get an answer from Spike some time ago but I think he has quit replying to posts.

[vsaltv]

No shows but it does have all of my Guide data (didn't know about Clear and Delete Everything back then). I did it two different times, about a month apart, on the same 14GB original drive. If I still had the drive I'd put it back in, do a C&DE and try again. As of now the only one I have available to pull an image from is an 80GB drive. It has always mystified me as to why the S1 image is so huge compared to the S2 and S3 images I've pulled. I tried to get an answer from Spike some time ago but I think he has quit replying to posts.

Wish I could send you a faster internet so you can send the image to me :P I think you are the last guy on earth who can properly restore a S1

[lillevig]

Wish I could send you a faster internet so you can send the image to me :P I think you are the last guy on earth who can properly restore a S1

If I have time later today I can pull the 80GB drive from my remaining S1, restore the old 14GB image without expanding, do a CD&E, and then try to capture a new image. If that doesn't work then I know a guy who collects old computer parts who may be willing to loan me a 15 or 20GB drive to image. I really don't think I'm the last guy able to image S1's but I'm late to the Tivo party and did a lot of messing around with four S1's before I moved up so my experiences are relatively fresh.

[lillevig]

Wish I could send you a faster internet so you can send the image to me :P I think you are the last guy on earth who can properly restore a S1

If I have time later today I can pull the 80GB drive from my remaining S1, restore the old 14GB image without expanding, do a CD&E, and then try to capture a new image. If that doesn't work then I know a guy who collects old computer parts who may be willing to loan me a 15 or 20GB drive to image. I really don't think I'm the last guy able to image S1's but I'm late to the Tivo party and did a lot of messing around with four S1's before I moved up so my experiences are relatively fresh.

Did all the stuff I mentioned above and sent you an e-mail with a link to the new image. The C&DE cut the file size down to about 130 MB.

[unitron]

Let me look (trying to get 10 relevant posts heh)
OK I got a Seagate 10gb 9w1001 (will edit post when i find more hdd's they are everywhere)
Next is a Maxtor 5.7gb 90576d4
Next a Maxtor 200gb BAH41E00

I think that's all my old IDE style drives. I could also pull I believe a 40gb out of my DirectTivo unit if need be but would rather leave that along seeing how difficult it is to get images these days.

Can I expand the sony image on a 200gb drive but keep the partition under 137gb limit?

What you can do with the Sony image is use MFS Live to restore it to a drive 30GB or larger without expanding, and that'll be enough to let that S1 contact the mothership and re-assert the lifetime sub to qualify you for Multi-Set Discount, or MSD. But you'll need something that outputs the Sony remote codes.

If you want to do more than that, like keep using the S1 as a TiVo, you can go ahead with the Sony image now, on the 200GB Maxtor, and then we can talk about putting a Philips image on it later, (and how you'll need to learn how to unlock the drive) and using the copykern utility to patch the kernel to make it LBA48 aware.

If you already have a Philips image, then either MFS Live or WinMFS, depending on which was used to make the image, can restore it, as 30GB of space used, to that 200Gb, and then we can use copykern, and then we can expand. If you do that, suggest you specify a swap partition size of 100 to 128 MB during the initial restore and do not use the "optimized" partition layout (which is only for Series 2 and newer models, and only confuses an S1).

[vsaltv]

Can I image to a 200gb IDE drive but use a smaller than 137gb partition on it so i can get this box up and running? Or any use of a 200gb drive require a kernel patch regardless of partition size?

[unitron]

Can I image to a 200gb IDE drive but use a smaller than 137gb partition on it so i can get this box up and running? Or any use of a 200gb drive require a kernel patch regardless of partition size?

Either the Sony image I linked to or any S1 Philips image you're likely to get will restore as 30GB worth of partitions.

Just don't expand (which on a TiVo drive means adding partitions) until after you've run copykern.

And don't run copykern until I tell you how.

[vsaltv]

Thank you very much, so what you're saying is as long as I don't expand that image past its original partition size, i should be good to go to boot up on the 200gb drive :) I'll post my results of this imaging once completed. :)

[unitron]

Thank you very much, so what you're saying is as long as I don't expand that image past its original partition size, i should be good to go to boot up on the 200gb drive :) I'll post my results of this imaging once completed. :)

Yeah, the Series 1 TiVo hardware can handle drives up to about 1TB (which means a SATA drive with a Marvell chipset based SATA/IDE adapter).

It's the TiVo's software that has the problem until you patch the kernel.

[lillevig]

Either the Sony image I linked to or any S1 Philips image you're likely to get will restore as 30GB worth of partitions.

Just don't expand (which on a TiVo drive means adding partitions) until after you've run copykern.

And don't run copykern until I tell you how.

Thank you very much, so what you're saying is as long as I don't expand that image past its original partition size, i should be good to go to boot up on the 200gb drive :) I'll post my results of this imaging once completed. :)

The new S1 Philips image I pointed you to has 14GB of partitions. That's the smallest drive they put into one of those boxes. I didn't have a small drive to burn it to (to see if the 60+GB Apple Free partition would cause WINMFS to barf) but then I remembered that I had a 16GB SDHC card. WINMFS had no problem with it.

[Kevin D42]

Any chance of getting a winmfs image for a Series 3 (OLED Display, 648) Tivo?

Thanks in advance.

[vsaltv]

Worked great lillevig! Thank you so much. Made its call to home, got me $100 off lifetime sub and the works, you DA man! Happy Holidays bro ;)

[unitron]

Worked great lillevig! Thank you so much. Made its call to home, got me $100 off lifetime sub and the works, you DA man! Happy Holidays bro ;)

By the way, what's the date of manufacture of that S1 and do you know when lifetime was bought for it?

[papa]

I got a TiVo Premeire from my brother. The hard drive is messed up. I have upgraded my old Series 1 and Series 2 unit in the past. I'm looking for an image for a TCD746320. Any help out there?

[unitron]

I got a TiVo Premeire from my brother. The hard drive is messed up. I have upgraded my old Series 1 and Series 2 unit in the past. I'm looking for an image for a TCD746320. Any help out there?

I'm pretty sure it's still the deal that you have to have a good Premiere drive and copy it byte for byte with dd or dd_rescue.

In other words, there isn't anything that can do a truncated backup as there is for the previous models.

Also, I seem to recall stories of people who somehow screwed up their Premiere drives just by trying to take a look at them with WinMFS.

[vsaltv]

By the way, what's the date of manufacture of that S1 and do you know when lifetime was bought for it?

I'll have to look up the manufacture date, but it was activated with lifetime service 09/04/2001

[unitron]

I'll have to look up the manufacture date, but it was activated with lifetime service 09/04/2001

Okay, then the lifetime is too new to be eligible for the one-time transfer, so it doesn't really matter if it's old enough to be eligible to work manually.

[vsaltv]

explain what you mean? Would love to know if there's another way or something :)

[unitron]

explain what you mean? Would love to know if there's another way or something :)

There was a little vagueness in the definition of "lifetime" in the beginning, so any purchase of Product Lifetime Service prior to January 21, 2000, if memory serves, is eligible for a one-time transfer to another TiVo.

And I think it was October of 2000 which was the manufacturing date cutoff point (plus it had to have come out of the factory loaded with a particular version of the software) for the unit to be usable as a manual recorder without a subscription. Not sure the exact details of what it would and wouldn't do compared to later models without subs, but I think they could still call in to set the clock. No guide data, of course.

But of course that doesn't matter if the unit has a lifetime sub that can't be moved off of it.

[lillevig]

I got a TiVo Premeire from my brother. The hard drive is messed up. I have upgraded my old Series 1 and Series 2 unit in the past. I'm looking for an image for a TCD746320. Any help out there?

I'm assuming that the unit doesn't have lifetime service. If it did, buying a pre-imaged drive (from eBay or one of the forum sponsors) would be well worth the investment. If you are determined to get it working anyway, you may be able to pick up a spare Premiere for pretty cheap ($50-60 range). Then you would need to check the JMFS thread on this forum for details on burning a new drive.

[unitron]

I'm assuming that the unit doesn't have lifetime service. If it did, buying a pre-imaged drive (from eBay or one of the forum sponsors) would be well worth the investment. If you are determined to get it working anyway, you may be able to pick up a spare Premiere for pretty cheap ($50-60 range). Then you would need to check the JMFS thread on this forum for details on burning a new drive.

If there's no sub on the one he has now, he can pick up another one and keep the first for spare parts.

If it is lifetimed, he should pick up another one to keep for spare parts and just copy the drive to his present drive.

jmfs is only needed to go to a larger drive.

To just copy a good stock drive over to the drive in the one he has, all that's needed is dd_rescue from the MFS Live cd.

[o2pilot]

still hoping for a hr10-250 image to resuscitate my hr10-250.
hard drive died.... Thanks.

[Psychs]

Looking for an image for the Toshiba RS-TX20. Please PM me. Thanks in advance and happy holidays!

[MikeDeuce]

Hey jeaton,

I don't have enough posts to send a PM or email to you (perhaps one of you could forward this on for me), but I couldn't track down a torrent that was active for that sucker (TCD648250B), but you (you magnificent person, you) thought to upload everything to dropbox.

Thank you *VERY* much, and I hope you have a happy holiday/festivus/etc.

-Mike

[Moebius]

So I find myself a first time member of the dead hdd club (7 TiVos over 8 years, not a bad track record I suppose). I still have the original drive from the unit, but had formatted it to use in a PC some time back. Figuring since I'm currently of the unemployed variety, I could at least put the 250gb back in play for now. From what I've been reading, cake doesn't play well with the original size when trying to do its thing (plus that whole trying not to spend money). Can someone point me to an image for a 652160 unit so I can see if I can revive this 250 until such time as I can shell out for a new drive?

[unitron]

So I find myself a first time member of the dead hdd club (7 TiVos over 8 years, not a bad track record I suppose). I still have the original drive from the unit, but had formatted it to use in a PC some time back. Figuring since I'm currently of the unemployed variety, I could at least put the 250gb back in play for now. From what I've been reading, cake doesn't play well with the original size when trying to do its thing (plus that whole trying not to spend money). Can someone point me to an image for a 652160 unit so I can see if I can revive this 250 until such time as I can shell out for a new drive?

The original drive in a TCD652160 is a 160GB, not a 250.

Are you sure you don't have an original S3, a TCD648250?

For TCD652160 images,

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8831301#post8831301

[Moebius]

The original drive in a TCD652160 is a 160GB, not a 250.

Are you sure you don't have an original S3, a TCD648250?

For TCD652160 images,

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8831301#post8831301

Definitely a 652160, as I was looking at the back of the unit as I posted. :) So in theory, I have a 160 gb drive, probably with the TiVo image still on in floating around, and a 250gb that I don't even know from whence it came. Well, kind of a bonus I suppose.

Thanks for the image links, time to go read up a bit. I haven't worked with MFS in several years, at least since put the 1tb drive in this unit. Been a while.

[unitron]

Definitely a 652160, as I was looking at the back of the unit as I posted. :) So in theory, I have a 160 gb drive, probably with the TiVo image still on in floating around, and a 250gb that I don't even know from whence it came. Well, kind of a bonus I suppose.

Thanks for the image links, time to go read up a bit. I haven't worked with MFS in several years, at least since put the 1tb drive in this unit. Been a while.

Go to mfslive.org and download the iso for the MFS Live cd v1.4 if you don't have it already, and also the WinMFS program, and read all the readme's there.

Then come back here and read the thread about using jmfs to let you use up to a 2TB drive on an S3 HD.

[fsaldana]

I'm in desperate need of the TCD 540040. Can someone please help me out? Thanks in advance!

[fsaldana]

Sorry I failed to mention I need the image for a TCD540040. Thanks again!

[unitron]

I'm in desperate need of the TCD 540040. Can someone please help me out? Thanks in advance!

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8688730#post8688730

No matter whether you need an MFS Live restorable image or a WinMFS restorable image, you have to show your gratitude by downloading both to help extend their keep alive date.

[snailcat]

Does anyone have an image for the Dual Tuner 649080?

Thanks!

[ggieseke]

Does anyone have an image for the Dual Tuner 649080?

Thanks!

PM sent.

[unitron]

Does anyone have an image for the Dual Tuner 649080?

Thanks!

Doesn't anyone ever click on "Search this thread" anymore?

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8706933#post8706933

[ccain]

My lifetime series 2 drive died. I need image for TCD240080. Thanks!

[lillevig]

My lifetime series 2 drive died. I need image for TCD240080. Thanks!

PM sent

[stayclassy]

My Series 2, Pioneer DVR-810H-S hard drive died. No backup :(

I'm not sure InstantCake will work with my old pc.

(apologies if I missed the thread that covers this)

Can anyone point me to what my options are to get a backup image? Would appreciate any info on how to get an image ??

[lillevig]

My Series 2, Pioneer DVR-810H-S hard drive died. No backup :(

I'm not sure InstantCake will work with my old pc.

(apologies if I missed the thread that covers this)

Can anyone point me to what my options are to get a backup image? Would appreciate any info on how to get an image ??

If you already have InstantCake with the appropriate image, you can follow the directions in this link to copy the image to a flashdrive, boot MFSTools, and burn the image to a drive connected via a USB to IDE/SATA cable. I've done it using a laptop when IC could not recognize my DVD drive.

http://www.dvrupgrade.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1734

[stayclassy]

If you already have InstantCake with the appropriate image, you can follow the directions in this link to copy the image to a flashdrive, boot MFSTools, and burn the image to a drive connected via a USB to IDE/SATA cable. I've done it using a laptop when IC could not recognize my DVD drive.



Nice, I'll give that a try.

Btw, DvrUpgrade support said it couldn't be done:


<support@dvrupgrade.com> wrote:
Nope - you really need an old PC for that product.

> Hey guys--
> I was considering buying your InstantCake installer since my Tivo HD died.
>
> I was wondering if it's possible to install without an old PC? I have an
> IDE-to-USB cable and was hoping there was a simpler installation?
>
> Please let me know what options are available!

[unitron]

My lifetime series 2 drive died. I need image for TCD240080. Thanks!

Somewhere between page 20 and this page I've got links for a 24008A image that'll work.

Please download both versions to extend their time on the server.

[unitron]

My Series 2, Pioneer DVR-810H-S hard drive died. No backup :(

I'm not sure InstantCake will work with my old pc.

(apologies if I missed the thread that covers this)

Can anyone point me to what my options are to get a backup image? Would appreciate any info on how to get an image ??

Instant Cake will probably work better with your old PC than on a new one.

But you can probably find another on of that same model TiVo on Craigslist for the same price as they're asking for IC now.

[stayclassy]

MFSLive Tools + IC image worked as expected. Is there any warehousing on the Forums in case anyone else needs it?

[unitron]

MFSLive Tools + IC image worked as expected. Is there any warehousing on the Forums in case anyone else needs it?

Even if you could store that image on this site, it (Instant Cake) is a licensed commercial product (from a TCF sponsor, no less), so it would be improper and probably copyright infringement for you to make a copy of the Instant Cake cd .iso available.

Open an account at dropbox, and if you happen to have a working TiVo in the house, pull the drive, use the MFS Live cd v1.4 from mfslive.org (not the IC cd) to make a truncated image, give the file a .bak extension.

Use WinMFS, also from mfslive.org, to make a truncated image, but this one gets a .tbk extension--WinMFS does that by default.

Then upload both to your dropbox account.

If anyone comes along looking for an image for that particular model, send them the dropbox links.

Backing up with both programs doubles the chances of having the right version on hand no matter which program the "beg-ee" wishes to use to do the restoration.

[jeblis]

Could I get a PM on where I can find an image for my TCD648250B?

Thanks!

[peppergeo]

My long-time friend, a TCD230040 with a lifetime sub, came down with the GSOD. Could anyone out there help me with an image file?

[unitron]

My long-time friend, a TCD230040 with a lifetime sub, came down with the GSOD. Could anyone out there help me with an image file?

If you have a drive with an LBA number of at least 160086528 (that's the size of the 80GB Maxtor that's a little bigger than an 80GB WD ), you might be able to use this one

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8707432#post8707432

from a TCD24008A.

Download both versions to keep them on the server longer.

[peppergeo]

Thanks for the possible fix. I'll report how it goes.

[unitron]

Thanks for the possible fix. I'll report how it goes.

It's not impossible that the power supply has developed capacitor problems.

Go read the wikipedia page on capacitor plague to learn how to visually spot the problem.

Take the drive out of that TiVo, hook it to a computer, and run the drive manufacturer's diagnostics on it. If it's a Maxtor drive, use the Seagate diagnostic software.

[Terzik]

Could I get a PM on where I can find an image for my TCD648250B?

Thanks!

Scroll back, page 25, #739. I just checked links, appear to still be valid. I have used the Supafly image myself. Just remember you will have to Clear and Delete after initial setup.

[John Wilson]

Hello.
Does anyone have an image for a 140060? Preferably a WinMFS-friendly one?

Thanks in advance.:D

[unitron]

Hello.
Does anyone have an image for a 140060? Preferably a WinMFS-friendly one?

Thanks in advance.:D

Rumor has it that the 140s and 240s can use the same software.

A few pages back I've got links to .tbk and .bak versions of a 24008A image.

Download both to keep them alive on the server.

[John Wilson]

Rumor has it that the 140s and 240s can use the same software.

A few pages back I've got links to .tbk and .bak versions of a 24008A image.

Download both to keep them alive on the server.

I have an old drive from a 240080 box that I booted in this box to check my power supply fix. It booted but came back with an Important Message about there being a hardware error and I had 3 choices; the first two being Restart the DVR or Skip for now. I don't remember the 3rd. At this point I figure I'd better get an exact image if I can.

Does anybody know what steps I should take if I proceed with the 240--- image? This was on a 40GB drive; would that make a difference?

TIA!

[unitron]

I have an old drive from a 240080 box that I booted in this box to check my power supply fix. It booted but came back with an Important Message about there being a hardware error and I had 3 choices; the first two being Restart the DVR or Skip for now. I don't remember the 3rd. At this point I figure I'd better get an exact image if I can.

Does anybody know what steps I should take if I proceed with the 240--- image? This was on a 40GB drive; would that make a difference?

TIA!

That important message is basically an error 51, you've got software that expects to be an a TiVo with a particular TiVo Service Number suddenly finding itself on a TiVo with a different TSN.

Running Guided Setup should fix it.

Maybe classicsat will drop by with a definitive answer about 140 and 240 image compatibility.

What size hard drive are you trying to restore to?

The original drive in a 24008A is a Maxtor 80GB, which has a larger LBA number than an 80GB WD, and the image won't go onto anything smaller than the original drive.

What brand and model is that 40GB?

It could maybe have been transplanted in from a 240040 or 24004A.

Don't do anything with it in the TiVo, just hook it to a computer and make images from it with both WinMFS and the MFS Live cd.

Although if that "Skip for now" option will let you get into system information without having to go through guided setup, make a note of what software version it says it's running--the entire long number, and post it here.

If that 140 is worth reviving, it's worth an adapter and a big SATA drive.

Consult the adapter thread.

[John Wilson]

That important message is basically an error 51, you've got software that expects to be an a TiVo with a particular TiVo Service Number suddenly finding itself on a TiVo with a different TSN.

Running Guided Setup should fix it.

Maybe classicsat will drop by with a definitive answer about 140 and 240 image compatibility.

What size hard drive are you trying to restore to?

The original drive in a 24008A is a Maxtor 80GB, which has a larger LBA number than an 80GB WD, and the image won't go onto anything smaller than the original drive.

What brand and model is that 40GB?

It could maybe have been transplanted in from a 240040 or 24004A.

Don't do anything with it in the TiVo, just hook it to a computer and make images from it with both WinMFS and the MFS Live cd.

Although if that "Skip for now" option will let you get into system information without having to go through guided setup, make a note of what software version it says it's running--the entire long number, and post it here.

If that 140 is worth reviving, it's worth an adapter and a big SATA drive.

Consult the adapter thread.

I mis-spoke. I had an original 40GB drive from a 240040 that I tried to boot in this 140060 box, which has the original 60GB drive that won't boot now after the power supply went south. I fixed the PS but can't get the 60GB drive to boot so I naively tried to boot this 40giger just to confirm that the PS is okay. So now what to do. The 60GB drive is a WD. I'll try again to boot with the 40GB and see if I can get the s/w version.

[lillevig]

I mis-spoke. I had an original 40GB drive from a 240040 that I tried to boot in this 140060 box, which has the original 60GB drive that won't boot now after the power supply went south. I fixed the PS but can't get the 60GB drive to boot so I naively tried to boot this 40giger just to confirm that the PS is okay. So now what to do. The 60GB drive is a WD. I'll try again to boot with the 40GB and see if I can get the s/w version.

I'll send you a link to a WinMFS image for a 40GB TCD240 in case you can't get anything off of your drive. If Unitron is correct about them using the same SW version then the 40GB image should fit on your 60GB drive if you still want to get that going.

[John Wilson]

I'll send you a link to a WinMFS image for a 40GB TCD240 in case you can't get anything off of your drive. If Unitron is correct about them using the same SW version then the 40GB image should fit on your 60GB drive if you still want to get that going.

Thanks lillevig and unitron. I will try your links but I may try to get an image off of my own 40GB which is from a 24004A and is running 9.3.2b--- s/w. I know this because I have this unit with a 250GB running right now. Maybe that might be an issue when trying to run it in the 140060 box?

[rjaiswal]

Long time lurker, first time poster... Looking for an image for a Tivo Series 3 model TCD648250B. Moved to a new house and the movers were not kind to my Tivo's... This is the only one, who's backup image became corrupted...

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks!

[unitron]

Long time lurker, first time poster... Looking for an image for a Tivo Series 3 model TCD648250B. Moved to a new house and the movers were not kind to my Tivo's... This is the only one, who's backup image became corrupted...

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks!

Got somewhere I can upload it to?

[unitron]

Okay, here's a 13GB truncated Series 1 Philips, software version 3, LBA48 patched, original S1 style partition layout, starts in Guided Setup image in both flavors, MFS Live and WinMFS


Remember to not use the -p option with the restore command on the MFS Live cd and make sure WinMFS is set to not use the "optimized" partition layout.


This is the one to restore with the MFS Live cd

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49887720/13Phil48.bak

and this is the one to restore with WinMFS

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49887720/13Phil48.tbk

[Stinkweed8]

I have a LT series 3 TCD648250B that i am trying to resurrect. Anybody have an image I can use and perhaps some guidance on how to use it. I got an image from a torrent, but im not sure if it is correct file type.

I would prefer to go with WinMFS if possible...

[unitron]

I have a LT series 3 TCD648250B that i am trying to resurrect. Anybody have an image I can use and perhaps some guidance on how to use it. I got an image from a torrent, but im not sure if it is correct file type.

I would prefer to go with WinMFS if possible...

Are you going to try to re-use the original drive?

If so, we should do a few things first.


Are you looking to go onto a bigger drive?

When you say resurrect, exactly what's wrong with it now?

Let's be sure we're solving the right problem.

EDIT: Disregard the next question. Have no idea why I didn't realize you meant lifetimed.

"I have a LT series 3"

What's an LT?

end EDIT

MFS Live cd v1.4 version


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49887720/648250b.bak


WinMFS version

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49887720/648250b.tbk

If you want your own free dropbox account we can both get extra storage space if you get it in response to an invitation from me.

Click my user name and email me and we can discuss it.

[Stinkweed8]

The LT was lifetimed...sorry about that.

The unit boots up and gets stuck in the setup process at the Loading Data stage after setting the wifi adapter up. I tried kickstarting and no change. Hoping it is the hdd and that a new one will make it work again. I bought it for relatively cheap assuming I would be able to fix it.

Using the WINMFS version...what am i going to be doing to start anew with a new hdd. Will I be using the old one at all. I have upgraded a couple of tivos in the past...one quite a while ago with linux commands and one within windows...but never have done this without having a good drive to copy the software from.

Any help would be much appreciated....like, what do I do with these files...sorry and thanks Unitron.

And I do have a dropbox account and it is pretty much full :(

Are you going to try to re-use the original drive?

If so, we should do a few things first.


Are you looking to go onto a bigger drive?

When you say resurrect, exactly what's wrong with it now?

Let's be sure we're solving the right problem.

EDIT: Disregard the next question. Have no idea why I didn't realize you meant lifetimed.

"I have a LT series 3"

What's an LT?

end EDIT

MFS Live cd v1.4 version


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49887720/648250b.bak


WinMFS version

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49887720/648250b.tbk

If you want your own free dropbox account we can both get extra storage space if you get it in response to an invitation from me.

Click my user name and email me and we can discuss it.

[unitron]

The LT was lifetimed...sorry about that.

The unit boots up and gets stuck in the setup process at the Loading Data stage after setting the wifi adapter up. I tried kickstarting and no change. Hoping it is the hdd and that a new one will make it work again. I bought it for relatively cheap assuming I would be able to fix it.

Using the WINMFS version...what am i going to be doing to start anew with a new hdd. Will I be using the old one at all. I have upgraded a couple of tivos in the past...one quite a while ago with linux commands and one within windows...but never have done this without having a good drive to copy the software from.

Any help would be much appreciated....like, what do I do with these files...sorry and thanks Unitron.

And I do have a dropbox account and it is pretty much full :(

Mine's pretty much full, too, all TiVo images, which is why I'm trolling for extra free space.

I've got other images on sendspace, but they have to be downloaded every so often to keep alive. If you're bored, feel free to search my posts in this thread and download some of them for the benefit of later searchers with different models.

Do you mean you bought the TiVo itself cheap hoping to fix it?

Does that mean it still has the original 250GB drive?

If so, take out the drive, hook it to a Windows computer, DO NOT try to look at the drive with any Windows program, launch WinMFS, select that drive, make sure you've got the right one, click on mfsinfo, see if it's set to boot from partitions 3 and 4, which we'll call Option 1, or from 6 and 7, which we'll call Option 2.

Then click on fixboot and choose the opposite option. If you're booting from 3 and 4, choose option 2 to change it to 6 and 7. If you're booting from 6 and 7, choose option 1 to change it to 3 and 4.

Then click on fix swap.

Then exit, power down, put it back in the TiVo and try again.

You are using the TiVo brand wireless adapter, right?

Can you temporarily use a Cat5 cable and hook it straight to your router?

Oh, in setup, give it a fixed IP address. Actually give anything and everything on the network that doesn't travel a fixed IP address.

Can't hurt, might help.

My main router's address is 192.168.1.1, with a wireless router hanging off of it at .2, a wired at .3, and two more planned for .4 and .5.

Each router is, or will be, assigned one of the numbers from .250 to .254 for DHCP it can hand out.

Network attached storage starts at .20

Computers start at .100

TiVos start at .201 (I've got one computer that's on .200 servicing the living room TiVos)

Planning it out that way, no conflicts. I can increase the DHCP range downward if necessary, without hitting anything else until or unless I get like 7 Tivos for each room, which ain't happening, even if they were free ('cause the light bill ain't).

Those are the public links for those images on dropbox, just click on them and the download "open or save" box should pop up.

But maybe you won't need them.

[Stinkweed8]

Thanks for all that info Unitron. The drive is the original 250GB WD2500BS drive. From what I understand this Tivo was never actually run through guided setup and it looks clean as a whistle inside. Yes I bought the tivo form someone on the forum here ... they werent interested in trying to fix it so I took a chance with it since it has lifetime on it.

I will try the swap tonight and let you know what happens...thanks again.

MZ


Mine's pretty much full, too, all TiVo images, which is why I'm trolling for extra free space.

I've got other images on sendspace, but they have to be downloaded every so often to keep alive. If you're bored, feel free to search my posts in this thread and download some of them for the benefit of later searchers with different models.

Do you mean you bought the TiVo itself cheap hoping to fix it?

Does that mean it still has the original 250GB drive?

If so, take out the drive, hook it to a Windows computer, DO NOT try to look at the drive with any Windows program, launch WinMFS, select that drive, make sure you've got the right one, click on mfsinfo, see if it's set to boot from partitions 3 and 4, which we'll call Option 1, or from 6 and 7, which we'll call Option 2.

Then click on fixboot and choose the opposite option. If you're booting from 3 and 4, choose option 2 to change it to 6 and 7. If you're booting from 6 and 7, choose option 1 to change it to 3 and 4.

Then click on fix swap.

Then exit, power down, put it back in the TiVo and try again.

You are using the TiVo brand wireless adapter, right?

Can you temporarily use a Cat5 cable and hook it straight to your router?

Oh, in setup, give it a fixed IP address. Actually give anything and everything on the network that doesn't travel a fixed IP address.

Can't hurt, might help.

My main router's address is 192.168.1.1, with a wireless router hanging off of it at .2, a wired at .3, and two more planned for .4 and .5.

Each router is, or will be, assigned one of the numbers from .250 to .254 for DHCP it can hand out.

Network attached storage starts at .20

Computers start at .100

TiVos start at .201 (I've got one computer that's on .200 servicing the living room TiVos)

Planning it out that way, no conflicts. I can increase the DHCP range downward if necessary, without hitting anything else until or unless I get like 7 Tivos for each room, which ain't happening, even if they were free ('cause the light bill ain't).

Those are the public links for those images on dropbox, just click on them and the download "open or save" box should pop up.

But maybe you won't need them.

[unitron]

Thanks for all that info Unitron. The drive is the original 250GB WD2500BS drive. From what I understand this Tivo was never actually run through guided setup and it looks clean as a whistle inside. Yes I bought the tivo form someone on the forum here ... they werent interested in trying to fix it so I took a chance with it since it has lifetime on it.

I will try the swap tonight and let you know what happens...thanks again.

MZ

Pull the drive, hook it to a computer, do not boot into Windows, and run WD's diagnostic software on it.

[unitron]

Based on an email I got notifying me of a post which should be here but isn't, I'm thinking someone figured out that one needs administrator privileges in Windows 7 to see drives in WinMFS, but was too embarassed to share that bit of info with posterity.:)

[Stinkweed8]

Based on an email I got notifying me of a post which should be here but isn't, I'm thinking someone figured out that one needs administrator privileges in Windows 7 to see drives in WinMFS, but was too embarassed to share that bit of info with posterity.:)

You got that right unitron...I figured that part out almost immediately.

Now, The drive checked ok on both tests, and I did the fix swap commands in winMFS...and I hooked the tivo up direct to the router. Still, durring the "loading info" step of setup I get "error S03" and it stops...

I am thinking of reimaging the drive using the link you provided...I do not have a large enough blank hdd to try a fresh one and they are too expensive right now just to buy one to play with...winMSF wont let me install the image on a 120GB drive...I guess it needs to be 250GB like the original or bigger.

Any other ideas before I destroy the original image with winMFS restore?

start edit......

went ahead and reimaged the drive and IT WORKED...no more s03 error. I did however get a #51 error after setup completed. I found that "clear and delete everything" was the cure and that worked too. Thanks for all the help. Hope this helps someone else out in the future.

end edit....

Thanks

[lillevig]

Based on an email I got notifying me of a post which should be here but isn't, I'm thinking someone figured out that one needs administrator privileges in Windows 7 to see drives in WinMFS, but was too embarassed to share that bit of info with posterity.:)

Administrator mode also needed to run it in Vista (for those still in limbo between XP and 7).

[unitron]

You got that right unitron...I figured that part out almost immediately.

Now, The drive checked ok on both tests, and I did the fix swap commands in winMFS...and I hooked the tivo up direct to the router. Still, durring the "loading info" step of setup I get "error S03" and it stops...

I am thinking of reimaging the drive using the link you provided...I do not have a large enough blank hdd to try a fresh one and they are too expensive right now just to buy one to play with...winMSF wont let me install the image on a 120GB drive...I guess it needs to be 250GB like the original or bigger.

Any other ideas before I destroy the original image with winMFS restore?

start edit......


went ahead and reimaged the drive and IT WORKED...no more s03 error. I did however get a #51 error after setup completed. I found that "clear and delete everything" was the cure and that worked too. Thanks for all the help. Hope this helps someone else out in the future.

end edit....

Thanks

Since you bought it from someone else, did you check to see if it had any shows on it you wanted to save?

If not, before running guided setup to put in your own zip code and area code, did you try a "Clear & Delete Everything" to see if that would cure it?

[wiz]

Looking for an image for an original Series 3 250gb (TCD648250). Thanks!

[aymanme]

Looking for an image for an original Series 3 250gb (TCD648250). Thanks!

pm sent

[unitron]

Looking for an image for an original Series 3 250gb (TCD648250). Thanks!

Does no one read or search anymore?

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8921060#post8921060

It was only on the same page.

[kirb34]

I need an image for my HUMAX T800, the hhd is broken

Thanks!

[motorcycle_rider]

I corrupted my existing image and need a new one, can anyone help me out.

I am looking for an image for the Toshiba SD-H400

Thanks

Nevermind, I found a backup of my backup of my backup and it worked.....WHEW!!!!

[Ashalon]

Nevermind, I found a backup of my backup of my backup and it worked.....WHEW!!!!

I am also looking for that image. Could you email one my way?

[unitron]

I corrupted my existing image and need a new one, can anyone help me out.

I am looking for an image for the Toshiba SD-H400

Thanks

Nevermind, I found a backup of my backup of my backup and it worked.....WHEW!!!!

Then there's some space at dropbox with your name on it just waiting for that image.

If you let me refer you we can both get some extra free space there.

[motorcycle_rider]

I am also looking for that image. Could you email one my way?

PM sent

[AddictivKaos]

Hi I'm looking for a TCD663320 image for a Tivo 320 (Australia). Thanks

[ParaDiddle]

I'm looking for a TCD658000 image please.

[ParaDiddle]

Did you ever find this image? I'm looking for it too.

Hi, need a image for a HD TCD658000. Thanks!

[unitron]

I'm looking for a TCD658000 image please.

If you use WinMFS, I think this will work.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49887720/658000.tbk

If you let me refer you to get a dropbox account, we both get extra free space.

email or PM me for the referral

[ParaDiddle]

I can't send email or PM yet until I get 10 posts. I used your image and it appears to be working but my cable cards aren't getting any channels. I think I have to call my cable company? Any suggestions?


If you use WinMFS, I think this will work.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49887720/658000.tbk

If you let me refer you to get a dropbox account, we both get extra free space.

email or PM me for the referral

[ParaDiddle]

Yup... Called the cable company and they married my cable cards. I have TV again!!!

Thanks so much!

[unitron]

Yup... Called the cable company and they married my cable cards. I have TV again!!!

Thanks so much!

Nice to see the internet was working for at least one of us this past hour.:mad:

Glad I could help.

Glad you could get it done over the phone instead of having to wait for a truck roll.


Did you restore to the original drive?

Once you get it set up the way you want it, right cable lineup, cable cards paired, fixed IP address assigned, etc, you should use WinMFS to make a truncated backup just for your machine.

Then you should go back to mfslive.org and get the zip of the iso of the MFS Live cd v1.4 and burn yourself a copy and make another backup using it.

That way if Windows is screwed up and you need to fix the TiVo, you can boot from the cd and restore the image it made.

Also, that cd is handy to have for other stuff on it even if you don't own a TiVo.

[Jmann8888]

Hi, my brother has a series 2, the model number is TCD240080. there is no backup at all, and one of the hard drives is toast. i need a back up image preferably in the .tbk format. all i have is a laptop.

I actually searched the thread and found what i was looking for. thanks though for anyone who would have replied.

[lowboy]

Hi all,
It has been many (many) years since I have worked on a Tivo. I have no idea what happened to my backups at this point. I am trying to rebuild my TCD540040 to give to someone else. It has a bad hard drive (boot loop), and I got something to replace it. But, I need an image to put down on it. Can someone help me? I would ideally like the one that works with winmfs if possible.

Thanks,

Lowboy

[unitron]

Hi, my brother has a series 2, the model number is TCD240080. there is no backup at all, and one of the hard drives is toast. i need a back up image preferably in the .tbk format. all i have is a laptop.

I actually searched the thread and found what i was looking for. thanks though for anyone who would have replied.

If you found my 24008A images I hope you downloaded both flavors to keep them alive longer for others, but I responded because you said ONE of the drives was bad.

Has this unit previously been been upgraded?

[unitron]

Hi all,
It has been many (many) years since I have worked on a Tivo. I have no idea what happened to my backups at this point. I am trying to rebuild my TCD540040 to give to someone else. It has a bad hard drive (boot loop), and I got something to replace it. But, I need an image to put down on it. Can someone help me? I would ideally like the one that works with winmfs if possible.

Thanks,

Lowboy

Find the black bar near the top of the page just before the comments start. On the right-hand side it says "Search this thread". Click that, type in tcd540040, find my post from last September.

Download both flavors.

Remember, the 240s and 540s used Maxtor drives that have slightly higher LBA numbers than WDs and Seagates with the same GB number, and the image won't restore to a drive that's not at least as large as the factory original.

[lowboy]

Find the black bar near the top of the page just before the comments start. On the right-hand side it says "Search this thread". Click that, type in tcd540040, find my post from last September.

Download both flavors.

Remember, the 240s and 540s used Maxtor drives that have slightly higher LBA numbers than WDs and Seagates with the same GB number, and the image won't restore to a drive that's not at least as large as the factory original.

I did the search first, and tried to download those two files, but they have been deleted. As an FYI, I have a 120 gig drive to replace the 40 gig drive, so I should be good on that front. But, I still need an image if you have it someplace else?

EDIT: I was wrong, the link earlier in this thread is good.
I guess there was more than one link. Earlier today, I searched, and found a thread from September (from the same file hosting site), and the files were deleted. I guess these are different links. In any case, it is downloading now!

[unitron]

I did the search first, and tried to download those two files, but they have been deleted. As an FYI, I have a 120 gig drive to replace the 40 gig drive, so I should be good on that front. But, I still need an image if you have it someplace else?

EDIT: I was wrong, the link earlier in this thread is good.
I guess there was more than one link. Earlier today, I searched, and found a thread from September (from the same file hosting site), and the files were deleted. I guess these are different links. In any case, it is downloading now!

The trouble with dropbox is you only get so much space for free, and the trouble with sendspace is you only get space for a limited time for free, and stuff that hasn't been downloaded lately gets dumped and you have to upload it again and change your links again.

I'll try to get both 540 images uploaded again, and I'll PM you when the .tbk one is ready for download, and I'll edit the original post when I get both uploaded.

[lillevig]

Remember, the 240s and 540s used Maxtor drives that have slightly higher LBA numbers than WDs and Seagates with the same GB number, and the image won't restore to a drive that's not at least as large as the factory original.

My three 240's all have original WD drives (040, 080, and 004a models).

[unitron]

I did the search first, and tried to download those two files, but they have been deleted. As an FYI, I have a 120 gig drive to replace the 40 gig drive, so I should be good on that front. But, I still need an image if you have it someplace else?

EDIT: I was wrong, the link earlier in this thread is good.
I guess there was more than one link. Earlier today, I searched, and found a thread from September (from the same file hosting site), and the files were deleted. I guess these are different links. In any case, it is downloading now!

I just fired up sendspace and it showed the most recent download to be earlier this month, so I figured there were some wires crossed somewhere.

You might have found a posting with the original links from when I first uploaded to sendspace in September.

I've since re-uploaded, and edited the original September post (back in December) to replace the links with more current ones.

Now that you've downloaded the .tbk version, go ahead and download the .bak version as well.

That'll keep it alive longer.

[rjaiswal]

Hi!

I was able to download 648250.bak and was able to sucessfully restore it to a seagate pipeline HD. However, my series 3 keeps rebooting after the "Welcome! Powering Up!" screen. I used MFStools 1.4 to do the restore. The command I used was restore -zxpi \tivo\648250.bak \dev\sda. \tivo is where I mounted the USB stick containing the image. To mount the USB stick I used mount -t vfat \dev\sdb1 \tivo. Did I do anything worng?

thanks for the help in advance!

[rjaiswal]

the USB stick's format is FAT32...

[unitron]

the USB stick's format is FAT32...

I'm working on a detailed reply. Stand by.

[unitron]

Hi!

I was able to download 648250.bak and was able to sucessfully restore it to a seagate pipeline HD. However, my series 3 keeps rebooting after the "Welcome! Powering Up!" screen. I used MFStools 1.4 to do the restore. The command I used was restore -zxpi \tivo\648250.bak \dev\sda. \tivo is where I mounted the USB stick containing the image. To mount the USB stick I used mount -t vfat \dev\sdb1 \tivo. Did I do anything worng?

thanks for the help in advance!

It sounds as though it might not be communicating with the drive, or it might not be getting what it needs from the drive when it does.

Well, if you used the image I uploaded to dropbox, understand that I do not yet actually own a TCD648250.

I got someone to put an image up somewhere for me to download (I think it was a WinMFS version), I restored it to a drive, and then made truncated backups from that drive, so if there's a flaw in them, I have no way of knowing.

As for what you did--

You can skip the -z option, it isn't really needed.

Set everything up the way it was, boot with the MFS Live cd v1.4,
go ahead and mount the thumb drive (USB stick) to /tivo

(Notice that's "frontslash" tivo, not "backslash" tivo

this is a unix-ish environment, not a DOS-like one

and whether the lowercase or capital version of a letter is used matters and can be the difference between a harmless command and one that screws something up)


mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /tivo

then do

ls /tivo

(that's a lowercase L)

and make sure that you are able to see what's on the USB stick.

Then

hdparm -i /dev/sda

to be sure that /dev/sda is the drive you intend to use as the target for the image restore.

Then

hdparm -N /dev/sda

should return a result with a large number followed by a slash, followed by another large number and maybe something about an HPA

Those 2 numbers should be the same number, and it should say "HPA disabled" or something similar.

We want to be sure that nothing has put a Host Protected Area on the drive.

It's unlikely, unless you're using a GigaByte brand motherboard, but it doesn't hurt to be sure.

Then, assuming you're restoring to a drive larger than the original, take the size of the target drive in GB and divide by 2 to get the size in MB to make the swap partition.

For the sake of illustration we'll assume you're using a 1TB drive and use 500 (although you could also bump it up to the nearest binary multiple of 512).

If everything is the way it ought to be, then


restore -s 500 -xpi /tivo/648250.bak /dev/sda

It should put some stuff on the screen about what it's doing, and eventually say something about expanding or adding partitions, or something like that.

When it finishes, do

pdisk -l /dev/sda

(again, that's a lowercase L)

and make sure the partition map shows up like it should.

Then do

mfsinfo /dev/sda


If you get some sort of error message, don't panic yet. Instead type


reboot

wait for it to do so, and then once more

mfsinfo /dev/sda

and see if you don't get a bunch of info about the mfs partitions.

If it looks good, type

poweroff

and wait for it to shut down.


Then hook it back up in the TiVo and plug the power cord into the wall.

About 60 seconds after that, you should see the change in the lights on the front which is the cue to hit the pause button and then enter a Kickstart code. Watch for it so that you know what it looks like the next time in case you need it.

When I make images from machines I can actually put my hands on, I set them up to start in Guided Setup, but if it's a case like this, where I only had the image and not the TiVo, I don't know in what state it'll try to start.

If you get an error 51, it'll be because the software expected to be on a drive in a TiVo with a different TiVo Service Number from the one your TiVo has, and it'll have to do the green screen thing for a while and erase a bunch of stuff that pertained to the previous machine, and then it'll probably reboot itself and start off in Guided Setup.

If something else happens, let us know what, and we'll take it from there.

[rjaiswal]

It sounds as though it might not be communicating with the drive, or it might not be getting what it needs from the drive when it does.

Well, if you used the image I uploaded to dropbox, understand that I do not yet actually own a TCD648250.

I got someone to put an image up somewhere for me to download (I think it was a WinMFS version), I restored it to a drive, and then made truncated backups from that drive, so if there's a flaw in them, I have no way of knowing.

As for what you did--

You can skip the -z option, it isn't really needed.

Set everything up the way it was, boot with the MFS Live cd v1.4,
go ahead and mount the thumb drive (USB stick) to /tivo

(Notice that's "frontslash" tivo, not "backslash" tivo

this is a unix-ish environment, not a DOS-like one

and whether the lowercase or capital version of a letter is used matters and can be the difference between a harmless command and one that screws something up)


mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /tivo

then do

ls /tivo

(that's a lowercase L)

and make sure that you are able to see what's on the USB stick.

Then

hdparm -i /dev/sda

to be sure that /dev/sda is the drive you intend to use as the target for the image restore.

Then

hdparm -N /dev/sda

should return a result with a large number followed by a slash, followed by another large number and maybe something about an HPA

Those 2 numbers should be the same number, and it should say "HPA disabled" or something similar.

We want to be sure that nothing has put a Host Protected Area on the drive.

It's unlikely, unless you're using a GigaByte brand motherboard, but it doesn't hurt to be sure.

Then, assuming you're restoring to a drive larger than the original, take the size of the target drive in GB and divide by 2 to get the size in MB to make the swap partition.

For the sake of illustration we'll assume you're using a 1TB drive and use 500 (although you could also bump it up to the nearest binary multiple of 512).

If everything is the way it ought to be, then


restore -s 500 -xpi /tivo/648250.bak /dev/sda

It should put some stuff on the screen about what it's doing, and eventually say something about expanding or adding partitions, or something like that.

When it finishes, do

pdisk -l /dev/sda

(again, that's a lowercase L)

and make sure the partition map shows up like it should.

Then do

mfsinfo /dev/sda


If you get some sort of error message, don't panic yet. Instead type


reboot

wait for it to do so, and then once more

mfsinfo /dev/sda

and see if you don't get a bunch of info about the mfs partitions.

If it looks good, type

poweroff

and wait for it to shut down.


Then hook it back up in the TiVo and plug the power cord into the wall.

About 60 seconds after that, you should see the change in the lights on the front which is the cue to hit the pause button and then enter a Kickstart code. Watch for it so that you know what it looks like the next time in case you need it.

When I make images from machines I can actually put my hands on, I set them up to start in Guided Setup, but if it's a case like this, where I only had the image and not the TiVo, I don't know in what state it'll try to start.

If you get an error 51, it'll be because the software expected to be on a drive in a TiVo with a different TiVo Service Number from the one your TiVo has, and it'll have to do the green screen thing for a while and erase a bunch of stuff that pertained to the previous machine, and then it'll probably reboot itself and start off in Guided Setup.

If something else happens, let us know what, and we'll take it from there.

Thank you for the detailed response! When you said detailed... you meant detailed. :-)

I do apologize for mixing up my slashes... I've only been working with linux for the past year or so, and sometimes, when I'm posting to a forum, I use backslashes instead of forward slashes. :-)

I have to head to work. Once I get back I'll post an update. Thanks again!

P.S. FWIW, The drive I'm using is a 1TB Seagate Pipeline 2 HD model ST31000322CS. Also, this isn't the first image I've tried... I feel like such an idiot for repurposing my old 160GB drive... I moved to a new house, and I think the movers dropped the box with my Series 3 in it... that's what caused me to begin this odyssey... :-) And finally, which kickstart code should I use? 57 or 58?

[unitron]

Thank you for the detailed response! When you said detailed... you meant detailed. :-)

I do apologize for mixing up my slashes... I've only been working with linux for the past year or so, and sometimes, when I'm posting to a forum, I use backslashes instead of forward slashes. :-)

I have to head to work. Once I get back I'll post an update. Thanks again!

P.S. FWIW, The drive I'm using is a 1TB Seagate Pipeline 2 HD model ST31000322CS. Also, this isn't the first image I've tried... I feel like such an idiot for repurposing my old 160GB drive... I moved to a new house, and I think the movers dropped the box with my Series 3 in it... that's what caused me to begin this odyssey... :-) And finally, which kickstart code should I use? 57 or 58?

It's my understanding that KS 58 incorporates 57 along with other stuff.

I tend to use MFS Live more than WinMFS, but WinMFS does make one thing easier.

Have you got a PC running XP or later on which you could run WinMFS?

[unitron]

Thank you for the detailed response! When you said detailed... you meant detailed. :-)

I do apologize for mixing up my slashes... I've only been working with linux for the past year or so, and sometimes, when I'm posting to a forum, I use backslashes instead of forward slashes. :-)

I have to head to work. Once I get back I'll post an update. Thanks again!

P.S. FWIW, The drive I'm using is a 1TB Seagate Pipeline 2 HD model ST31000322CS. Also, this isn't the first image I've tried... I feel like such an idiot for repurposing my old 160GB drive... I moved to a new house, and I think the movers dropped the box with my Series 3 in it... that's what caused me to begin this odyssey... :-) And finally, which kickstart code should I use? 57 or 58?

What did you use the 160 for and can you replace it with something else and use the 160 temporarily?

[rjaiswal]

What did you use the 160 for and can you replace it with something else and use the 160 temporarily?

I used the old 160 drive in my parent's old XP machine... about 3 years ago... :-)

[unitron]

I used the old 160 drive in my parent's old XP machine... about 3 years ago... :-)

I'm thinking that we know that the 160 that came out of the TiVo works in that model, so if you could copy the stuff on it off to something else for the time being, you could restore to it and see if it works in the TiVo, and if it does, then that means good image, problem with Seagate in that model TiVo, or problem with Seagate period.

[rjaiswal]

Hi Unitron,

Followed your instructions... MFSinfo showed no errors... pdisk showed 16 partitions...

Tivo still rebooting after Welcome! Powering up... When I tried the supafly image, I got past this point. It started rebooting after Just a few more minutes...

Any other suggestions?

thanks again!

[rjaiswal]

I'm going to use pdisk to re-initialize the partition info... maybe it became corrupt because I was restoring over a previous restore. Will post update when finished.

thanks!

[rjaiswal]

I'm going to use pdisk to re-initialize the partition info... maybe it became corrupt because I was restoring over a previous restore. Will post update when finished.

thanks!

Update.

After re-initializing the hard drive, I ran another restore with the image that you had posted. Same problem.

I then did a restore using the "supafly" image, and I got a bit further, I got to the next screen, Just a few minutes more... after that it reboots. I did do a kickstart 57, and that took about 10 minutes. Still no joy...

I have a 1 TB western digital WD10EADS drive that I can try. Also the original drive was a 250. My bad. My TivoHD had a 160 in it...

That 250 drive is long gone. I don't know where the pc that has the drive is... :-(

[rjaiswal]

After doing a bit more research on tivocommunity.com, I just ordered the following drive from newegg. Western Digital AV-GP WD10EURS 1TB 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive. Maybe my Tivo is hating on Seagate all of the sudden...

[unitron]

Update.

After re-initializing the hard drive, I ran another restore with the image that you had posted. Same problem.

I then did a restore using the "supafly" image, and I got a bit further, I got to the next screen, Just a few minutes more... after that it reboots. I did do a kickstart 57, and that took about 10 minutes. Still no joy...

I have a 1 TB western digital WD10EADS drive that I can try. Also the original drive was a 250. My bad. My TivoHD had a 160 in it...

That 250 drive is long gone. I don't know where the pc that has the drive is... :-(

Yeah, I should have caught that wrong drive size. Speaking of different model S3s, I thought the supafly image was for the 652160 and maybe the 658000, but not the 648250?

Definitely try the EADS. It will work in a TiVo if everything else is right.

If there's something on there that needs saving you can run dd_rescue to Xerox it to the Seagate.

But run wdidle3 on the WD first to disable Intellipark.

The Welcome screen is built into the motherboard. If it gets to the just a few more minutes screen, that's coming off of the hard drive.

[rjaiswal]

Will try the EADS drive tonight. Will post an update. I did buy a new power supply for it, thinking that was the problem. Now I thinking it's the image. The only reason I'm doing all this, is because this TiVo has a lifetime subscription.

Is there a way for be to console into the TiVo to see the boot sequence?

[unitron]

...

Is there a way for be to console into the TiVo to see the boot sequence?

On the Series 1s there was, and the serial port was conveniently located on the back.

But what you could see ended when the drive took over.

There is a serial port on the 648 motherboard, but you'll have to do a lot of searching and reading on "the other site" (which cannot be named here) to find out how to take advantage of it, and I don't know if it will get you what you want. You may need a prom modification first.

If you google TiVo Prom Day, you'll find links to the site.


Look for

TiVo Bluetooth Serial Console Adapter

to see a picture of where it is

page 3 of

The S3 Has Landed

has a post of the console boot output

There's another page there (I think) which discusses it more directly which I can't find right now, but if you search all of Omikron's posts you'll trip over it eventually.

[rjaiswal]

Hi Unitron,

I tried the Western Digital drive this morning, with your image, and it still won't get past the Welcome Powering Up screen... Any ideas?

[unitron]

Hi Unitron,

I tried the Western Digital drive this morning, with your image, and it still won't get past the Welcome Powering Up screen... Any ideas?

Download the .tbk version and restore using WinMFS.

Use 512 for the swap size.

Since I don't have a 648 on which to test those images, I'll have to use yours.:)

And I need to know if one or both are bad.

[rjaiswal]

Download the .tbk version and restore using WinMFS.

Use 512 for the swap size.

Since I don't have a 648 on which to test those images, I'll have to use yours.:)

And I need to know if one or both are bad.

LOL! No prob. I don't mind. :-)

I sold the seagate to a customer to use in their security DVR. So, I'll play around with the western digital... Will post an update tomorrow.

[rjaiswal]

LOL! No prob. I don't mind. :-)

I sold the seagate to a customer to use in their security DVR. So, I'll play around with the western digital... Will post an update tomorrow.


Update...

Used WinMFS to restore your .tbk file. Was able to restore sucessfully, however, Tivo is still stuck at Welcome! Powering up...

Any other suggestios?

Thanks!

Riten

[dadrocks1]

Hi I'm looking for a TCD663320 image for a Tivo 320 (Australia). Thanks

Hi,
Did you succeed in getting your image, as I am after it also ( stuck at "just a few minutes more":confused:

[rjaiswal]

Hi,
Did you succeed in getting your image, as I am after it also ( stuck at "just a few minutes more":confused:

Hi!

No... I'm still stuck at that screen too. Still looking for a valid TCD648250B image... The supafly image that I found seems to also be corrupt. I can't restore it with the -p option. And at 98% mfsrestore fails.. :(

[rjaiswal]

Download the .tbk version and restore using WinMFS.

Use 512 for the swap size.

Since I don't have a 648 on which to test those images, I'll have to use yours.:)

And I need to know if one or both are bad.

Hi Unitron,

I wasn't able to boot from either image. The furthest I got was Just a few minutes more, using the .tbk. And only after switching the boot partition to 6 and running fix swap.

Would you recommend I try something else?

thanks

Riten

[unitron]

Hi Unitron,

I wasn't able to boot from either image. The furthest I got was Just a few minutes more, using the .tbk. And only after switching the boot partition to 6 and running fix swap.

Would you recommend I try something else?

thanks

Riten

Although I'm not totally convinced that it's not your motherboard or drive or power supply, I'm starting to suspect there's something wrong with the images I posted.

I PM'ed aymanme a couple of days ago to see if he'd send you a link to his image, and indicated I'd like the same, but haven't heard back.

Until and unless I actually get a 648 of my own to play with, my bag of tricks is pretty much empty.

You mentioned being able to get the "just a few more minutes screen"

The powering up screen is one the motherboard but the other one is on the drive, so that indicates the motherboard is able to talk to the drive.

Try whatever version of whatever image that got you that far again, but this time watch for the lights on the front to change somehow, probably about 60 seconds after the welcome screen pops up, and when you see it, hit pause for a second and then enter

58

and see if it'll do a green screen and fix itself.

If it does, you need to get it to the point of starting off in Guided Setup, pull the plug, and make a truncated image and let me know so I can get it from you.

[bud8man]

Sounds like a similar issue I had with my series 2 a few years ago. After buying a unit on ebay for part, and thinking it was my power supply, I found that my power supply was just loose. So my lifetime has the power supply from the frankestein box, and I put my power supply in the frankenstein box and both work.

[unitron]

Sounds like a similar issue I had with my series 2 a few years ago. After buying a unit on ebay for part, and thinking it was my power supply, I found that my power supply was just loose. So my lifetime has the power supply from the frankestein box, and I put my power supply in the frankenstein box and both work.

When you say "loose"...

power supply board not fully secured to chassis?

power lead from board to drive not fully seated?

cable from supply to motherboard not fully seated?

AC input "wiggly"?

[bud8man]

When you say "loose"...

power supply board not fully secured to chassis?

power lead from board to drive not fully seated?

cable from supply to motherboard not fully seated?

AC input "wiggly"?

AC input was "wiggly". The "wiggly" AC input condition led to the other issues and when I switched it out I ended up 'fixing' it.

[lillevig]

AC input was "wiggly". The "wiggly" AC input condition led to the other issues and when I switched it out I ended up 'fixing' it.

AC input is supposed to be "wiggly". It is sinusoidal after all. :rolleyes:

[rjaiswal]

When you say "loose"...

power supply board not fully secured to chassis?

power lead from board to drive not fully seated?

cable from supply to motherboard not fully seated?

AC input "wiggly"?

I also thought it was a power supply issue as well. The reason is that some of the caps on the PS were alot bigger than they were supposed to be. So, i ordered a new one from weakness. After installing it, I still had the same problem. I ran kickstart 58, and got to a new screen, Installing updates... however, after it rebooted, it still wouldn't go past Just a few more minutes... I'm now looking on ebay for a cheap series 3 with a stock HD, so I can pull and through into my Tivo to see if there is something else wrong with it.

All this, because the unit has a lifetime subscription, that I already transferred once from my series 1... :-)

Will keep you posted on what I find...

thanks for the help!

Riten

[torrential]

Tip of the hat to the contributors to this thread and to Unitron for providing the up-to-date image. My 652160 died a green death last week yet I was up and running shortly after unpacking the new hard drive thanks to all of you.

Another data point FWIW: I replaced a Hitachi Deskstar 1TB @7200 RPM born Oct 2007 (it seemed like a good idea at the time, which was Dec '07) with a WD15EARS. The Tivo HD is now almost completely silent and the temp has dropped from around 49 degrees C to 39C.

[unitron]

Tip of the hat to the contributors to this thread and to Unitron for providing the up-to-date image. My 652160 died a green death last week yet I was up and running shortly after unpacking the new hard drive thanks to all of you.

Another data point FWIW: I replaced a Hitachi Deskstar 1TB @7200 RPM born Oct 2007 (it seemed like a good idea at the time, which was Dec '07) with a WD15EARS. The Tivo HD is now almost completely silent and the temp has dropped from around 49 degrees C to 39C.

Have you run Hitachi's own long test on that Deathstar?

[torrential]

Have you run Hitachi's own long test on that Deathstar?

Yes, I ran the advanced test and it passed.

[unitron]

Yes, I ran the advanced test and it passed.

Maybe the drive itself is still good and the TiVo software just got scrambled.

[GGTZ]

My series 2 suddenly died. The hard drive is not spinning up and it is not the power supply. Have checked this in my desk top. Definately not spinning up. No response at all. Can someone help me with an image. Please? Thanks so much everyone. I need my TIVO back.

[unitron]

My series 2 suddenly died. The hard drive is not spinning up and it is not the power supply. Have checked this in my desk top. Definately not spinning up. No response at all. Can someone help me with an image. Please? Thanks so much everyone. I need my TIVO back.

If you hurry, these might not have aged off yet.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8688730#post8688730

Download both to keep them alive longer.

You'll need a drive at least as big as the original, bigger than most, if not all, other brands, 40GB Maxtor (LBA=80293248), or the restore will fail.


Then go do the same with my 240 images for which you have no use, but that's the way sendspace makes me play the game.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8707432#post8707432

You don't have to download these to download the 540 ones, but I need help keeping them from being yanked for lack of activity. Once you download them you can erase them from your computer, but you'll have gained them another 3 months of life.


Then we can talk about you accepting an invite from me to open a dropbox account that'll give both of us extra free space (where stuff doesn't get pulled for lack of activity).

[davevt98]

My series 3 died. I am looking for a tbk image for the TCD648250B. Thanks.

[unitron]

My series 3 died. I am looking for a tbk image for the TCD648250B. Thanks.

You can try the ones here

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8921060#post8921060

I don't have an OLED S3 on which to test them, I think one person has had success and another person still has the same problem they started out with, so let me know if they work or not.

[s2r22]

You can try the ones here

I don't have an OLED S3 on which to test them, I think one person has had success and another person still has the same problem they started out with, so let me know if they work or not.

I just registered to let you know that the winmfs image worked just fine for me just now when I put it on the original HD that came in the TCD648250B.

Somehow my disk got corrupted and it was showing in winmfs as not a tivo drive. I restored your .tbk image onto it and it worked fine after a single green screen to do somethings. It went right into guided setup -> Green Screen on first reboot for about 10-15 minutes or so rebooted -> Guided setup -> C&DE -> Guided Setup to working perfectly right now.

I did have a bad cap on the Power supply that did get replaced before I restored the image first however, so that might be an issue for the other person.

[unitron]

I just registered to let you know that the winmfs image worked just fine for me just now when I put it on the original HD that came in the TCD648250B.

Somehow my disk got corrupted and it was showing in winmfs as not a tivo drive. I restored your .tbk image onto it and it worked fine after a single green screen to do somethings. It went right into guided setup -> Green Screen on first reboot for about 10-15 minutes or so rebooted -> Guided setup -> C&DE -> Guided Setup to working perfectly right now.

I did have a bad cap on the Power supply that did get replaced before I restored the image first however, so that might be an issue for the other person.


Thanks for the feedback.

Since the image came from a machine with a different TiVo Service Number from your unit's number, it caused some temporary indigestion as it did whatever it needed to do to prevent you watching videos recorded on someone else's TiVo in order to keep the content owners happy and to keep people from getting much use out of unsubscribed TiVos.

[motorcycle_rider]

Looking for an image for a TDC130040. Does anyone have one they would like to share?

[unitron]

Looking for an image for a TDC130040. Does anyone have one they would like to share?

Somewhere I think classicsat posted as to whether 130s and 230s can use the same software as 140s and 240s, but I can't find the post, although in trying I discovered that you said TDC instead of TCD, which may be interferring with your own search attempts.

[motorcycle_rider]

Hmmm, I will attempt the 230 as I have that image....I will also attempt to search for the proper phrase. Thanks for pointing that out.

[bplanders]

Looking for an image for a Hughes SD-DVR80. My hard drive failed.

Thanks for any help.

Brian

[lotsanos2]

Thanks to unitron for 648250b image from post #831.
Hard drive in my unit died a sudden death and thanks to this forum and image from unitron was up and running in no time.

[unitron]

Thanks to unitron for 648250b image from post #831.
Hard drive in my unit died a sudden death and thanks to this forum and image from unitron was up and running in no time.

Thanks for confirming that it works, I don't have a 648 on which to test it.

Did you use MFS Live (a .bak file) or WinMFS (a .tbk file)?

[lotsanos2]

WinMFS with .tbk Using Windows 7 as admin.

Used a 500g drive from a external enclosure used with windows. Simply added to pc using sata, booted, opened WinMFS immedeately as admin from desktop location, select drive, select file from drop down menu, used all default setting when WinMFS opened, installed after warning would loose info on disk, when asked confirmed the disk size increase.
Total time from file download to install drive in Tivo around 15 min.
Upon rebooting Tivo, same general experience as s2r22 from post #900. After the mentioned two rounds of setup including downloads and scans, this part took about 1.5 hours. Result start to finish aprox 1.75 hours of time, no money and a fully functional Tivo.

Once again Thanks to all for the info on this forum.

[chickey]

EDIT: Nevermind. I did a lot more searching through this thread and located posts from unitron that I will try now.

hello-

Looking for an image for a TCD540040. Hard drive died and my other Series2 TiVo is a different model. I originally thought I could just image that but apparently that does not work.

TIA

-katia

[unitron]

EDIT: Nevermind. I did a lot more searching through this thread and located posts from unitron that I will try now.

hello-

Looking for an image for a TCD540040. Hard drive died and my other Series2 TiVo is a different model. I originally thought I could just image that but apparently that does not work.

TIA

-katia

I hope you downloaded both versions (.bak and .tbk) regardless of which you wind up using, so as to keep them alive on the server.

[chickey]

I hope you downloaded both versions (.bak and .tbk) regardless of which you wind up using, so as to keep them alive on the server.I sure did! I saw you had mentioned that prior.

Unfortunately, the TiVo just hangs at Welcome Powering Up. Going to try swapping the IDE cable tomorrow and see what happens. If you have any other ideas they would be greatly appreciated.

[unitron]

I sure did! I saw you had mentioned that prior.

Unfortunately, the TiVo just hangs at Welcome Powering Up. Going to try swapping the IDE cable tomorrow and see what happens. If you have any other ideas they would be greatly appreciated.

Perhaps you need to learn about bad capacitors and visually inspect the TiVo's power supply.

Also get the manufacurer's diagnostic software and run the long test on the 540's original drive and, if you used a replacement drive, that one as well.

For a Maxtor drive, use Seagate's Seatools.

Let's be sure we know what the problem is.

[chickey]

Perhaps you need to learn about bad capacitors and visually inspect the TiVo's power supply.

Also get the manufacurer's diagnostic software and run the long test on the 540's original drive and, if you used a replacement drive, that one as well.

For a Maxtor drive, use Seagate's Seatools.

Let's be sure we know what the problem is.
hmm problem presented itself with TiVo constantly rebooting. It would get almost fully booted up, navigating menus would be extremely slow, then it would reboot.

Tried to use orig drive to image using mfstools and it would error out after a while. didn't run any disk tools on it but couldn't get a good image out of it.

I have about 3-5 different old IDE drives ranging from 80G/120G/250G that i've been trying different images on and always stuck at welcome powering up. Only thing replaced thus far is the HD.

Used second TiVo also 540 model and backed up using mfstools and restored to new drive. Placed in broken TiVO and hung at powering up.

Downloading both of your images and tried to restore and also hung at powering up.

Headed home to find different IDE cable to try. Hesitant to fiddle to much with working TiVo as I don't want to break that too.

My hunch is that the welcome powering up is a default splash screen prior to the hdd being accessed so after a few hard drives and images if always the same message, perhaps it might be the IDE cable.

btw no bad noises on any of the hard drives.. no clicking and they all spin up.

Original drive in broke TiVo was 40G, second TiVo is 80G so had some issues when trying to restore 80G backup to a diff 80G drive due to number of sectors which is why i tried 120G and 250G drives.

desperate to resurrect the poor TiVo! :)

[unitron]

hmm problem presented itself with TiVo constantly rebooting. It would get almost fully booted up, navigating menus would be extremely slow, then it would reboot.

Tried to use orig drive to image using mfstools and it would error out after a while. didn't run any disk tools on it but couldn't get a good image out of it.

I have about 3-5 different old IDE drives ranging from 80G/120G/250G that i've been trying different images on and always stuck at welcome powering up. Only thing replaced thus far is the HD.

Used second TiVo also 540 model and backed up using mfstools and restored to new drive. Placed in broken TiVO and hung at powering up.

Downloading both of your images and tried to restore and also hung at powering up.

Headed home to find different IDE cable to try. Hesitant to fiddle to much with working TiVo as I don't want to break that too.

My hunch is that the welcome powering up is a default splash screen prior to the hdd being accessed so after a few hard drives and images if always the same message, perhaps it might be the IDE cable.

btw no bad noises on any of the hard drives.. no clicking and they all spin up.

Original drive in broke TiVo was 40G, second TiVo is 80G so had some issues when trying to restore 80G backup to a diff 80G drive due to number of sectors which is why i tried 120G and 250G drives.

desperate to resurrect the poor TiVo! :)

Let me attempt to decipher.

You have a TCD540040 with a 40GB Maxtor drive with a fat LBA number, and that TiVo is currently "sick".

You have a TCD540080 with an 80GB Maxtor, also with a fat LBA number, and it's currently functional.

Do you feel competent to swap power supplies between the two?

Edit:

The original "Welcome" screen is contained on a chip on the motherboard and should appear when you plug in the TiVo even if you have no hard drive in the TiVo.

The "just a few more minutes" screen is on the hard drive, and if you see it, that means the motherboard is able to access the hard drive, at least somewhat.

[chickey]

Let me attempt to decipher.

You have a TCD540040 with a 40GB Maxtor drive with a fat LBA number, and that TiVo is currently "sick".

You have a TCD540080 with an 80GB Maxtor, also with a fat LBA number, and it's currently functional.

Do you feel competent to swap power supplies between the two?

Edit:

The original "Welcome" screen is contained on a chip on the motherboard and should appear when you plug in the TiVo even if you have no hard drive in the TiVo.

The "just a few more minutes" screen is on the hard drive, and if you see it, that means the motherboard is able to access the hard drive, at least somewhat.
I appreciate your help and I apologize if my original message was unclear or not easy to decipher.

I have a TCD540040 w/ a Maxtor 40G drive (original) which is sick
I have a T800 (Humax) w/ a Maxtor 80G drive (original) which is working

When attempting to take an image off the 40G drive, the drive was reporting i/o errors which is why i suspected bad disk. It is just in all my attempts to drop an image on a new hard drive have also failed. However today, some progress was made.

I had a 250G Maxtor drive where i took an image of the 80G Humax (backup) and restored to the 250G and did the "add" and it worked. So working TiVo is upgraded - yay

I took the 80G and put that in the broke TiVo and it booted all the way up! It threw an error when it got into the TiVo menu about there being an error and won't record but i suspected/wondered if that was because it was a T800 image not the 540 image.

The other drives i have are all WD. I have a 120G and an 80G that I was attempting to restore the 540 image (from you) on which never got past the bootloader (Welcome powering up)

So now I can either try restoring the 540 image from you onto the Maxtor hdd from the original T800 series, or i need to figure out why when restoring the 540 image to one of the WD drives it is failing.

btw, thanks for confirming the welcome powering up was not accessing the drive. Before I got your message i actually tried booting the tivo today without a hdd attached and found that out as well.

[unitron]

I appreciate your help and I apologize if my original message was unclear or not easy to decipher.

I have a TCD540040 w/ a Maxtor 40G drive (original) which is sick
I have a T800 (Humax) w/ a Maxtor 80G drive (original) which is working

When attempting to take an image off the 40G drive, the drive was reporting i/o errors which is why i suspected bad disk. It is just in all my attempts to drop an image on a new hard drive have also failed. However today, some progress was made.

I had a 250G Maxtor drive where i took an image of the 80G Humax (backup) and restored to the 250G and did the "add" and it worked. So working TiVo is upgraded - yay

I took the 80G and put that in the broke TiVo and it booted all the way up! It threw an error when it got into the TiVo menu about there being an error and won't record but i suspected/wondered if that was because it was a T800 image not the 540 image.

The other drives i have are all WD. I have a 120G and an 80G that I was attempting to restore the 540 image (from you) on which never got past the bootloader (Welcome powering up)

So now I can either try restoring the 540 image from you onto the Maxtor hdd from the original T800 series, or i need to figure out why when restoring the 540 image to one of the WD drives it is failing.

btw, thanks for confirming the welcome powering up was not accessing the drive. Before I got your message i actually tried booting the tivo today without a hdd attached and found that out as well.

Would you rather use the 250 in the 540 or the Humax?

If the 540 will boot up with a Humax drive in it, it'll boot up with a drive big enough to take the TCD540040 image I put online.

Are you using WinMFS or the MFS Live cd?

[chickey]

Would you rather use the 250 in the 540 or the Humax?

If the 540 will boot up with a Humax drive in it, it'll boot up with a drive big enough to take the TCD540040 image I put online.

Are you using WinMFS or the MFS Live cd?
Keep the 250G in the Humax now, it is working and i closed the lid to stop mucking with it. I had tried your 540 image on the 250G and it didn't work initially. The Humax seems newer based off the versions on the parts inside so going to keep the 250G in the Humax.

I'm using WinMFS and also mfstools on ubuntu. Any reason restoring to a WD drive wouldn't work? I have yet to restore onto the Humax 80G with the 540 image, but thinking about it...

Thanks!

[unitron]

Keep the 250G in the Humax now, it is working and i closed the lid to stop mucking with it. I had tried your 540 image on the 250G and it didn't work initially. The Humax seems newer based off the versions on the parts inside so going to keep the 250G in the Humax.

I'm using WinMFS and also mfstools on ubuntu. Any reason restoring to a WD drive wouldn't work? I have yet to restore onto the Humax 80G with the 540 image, but thinking about it...

Thanks!

You can't restore the TCD540040 image onto a WD 40GB because it has a slightly smaller LBA number than the Maxtor 40GB from which I took the image, but if that WD is an 80 or larger there should be no problem.

If you haven't already downloaded the zip of the .iso of the MFS Live cd v1.4 from mfslive.org, go ahead and do so and unzip it and burn yourself a copy just to have handy for messing with hard drives in general.

It's the most recent version of MFS Tools.

[chickey]

You can't restore the TCD540040 image onto a WD 40GB because it has a slightly smaller LBA number than the Maxtor 40GB from which I took the image, but if that WD is an 80 or larger there should be no problem.

If you haven't already downloaded the zip of the .iso of the MFS Live cd v1.4 from mfslive.org, go ahead and do so and unzip it and burn yourself a copy just to have handy for messing with hard drives in general.

It's the most recent version of MFS Tools.
My broke TiVo is alive! your image on a WD 80G drive booted! I also downloaded and burned MFS Live CD per your recommendation.

thanks so much. just as a hint, i had the jumpers wrong at first on the WD drive which is why it wasn't getting past the bootloader. I initially had it set for Master but it needs to be "single" apparently

-katia

[unitron]

My broke TiVo is alive! your image on a WD 80G drive booted! I also downloaded and burned MFS Live CD per your recommendation.

thanks so much. just as a hint, i had the jumpers wrong at first on the WD drive which is why it wasn't getting past the bootloader. I initially had it set for Master but it needs to be "single" apparently

-katia

Moving drives back and forth between computer and TiVo, jumper settings have caught many of us not paying sufficient attention.

If your TiVo has the 80 conductor 40 pin type cable, then, depending on the drive, you might get away with jumpering as Master, but at the factory they set them for Cable Select, and I don't think you can go wrong doing it that way.

If it's an older TiVo with a 40 conductor 40 pin cable, then you do need to set it as Master.

[chickey]

Moving drives back and forth between computer and TiVo, jumper settings have caught many of us not paying sufficient attention.

If your TiVo has the 80 conductor 40 pin type cable, then, depending on the drive, you might get away with jumpering as Master, but at the factory they set them for Cable Select, and I don't think you can go wrong doing it that way.

If it's an older TiVo with a 40 conductor 40 pin cable, then you do need to set it as Master.
Not only not paying attention but also i'm just ignorant :) The Maxtor drive I had dropped in was set to Master so I assumed the WD should be as well. I found on one of the pages about MFS Live the jumper settings and changed it and booted right up.

Thanks for all your help!

-katia

[unitron]

Not only not paying attention but also i'm just ignorant :) The Maxtor drive I had dropped in was set to Master so I assumed the WD should be as well. I found on one of the pages about MFS Live the jumper settings and changed it and booted right up.

Thanks for all your help!

-katia

Delighted it all worked out for you. Enjoy all that Tivo-y goodness.

[rjaiswal]

I also thought it was a power supply issue as well. The reason is that some of the caps on the PS were alot bigger than they were supposed to be. So, i ordered a new one from weakness. After installing it, I still had the same problem. I ran kickstart 58, and got to a new screen, Installing updates... however, after it rebooted, it still wouldn't go past Just a few more minutes... I'm now looking on ebay for a cheap series 3 with a stock HD, so I can pull and through into my Tivo to see if there is something else wrong with it.

All this, because the unit has a lifetime subscription, that I already transferred once from my series 1... :-)

Will keep you posted on what I find...

thanks for the help!

Riten

Hi Unitron!

I do apologize for the late reply. Things at work and home took over my time in tinkering with my Series 3. I have an update. I was able to acquire a working series 3 with stock HD off of ebay. It arrived, and I immediately took the stock drive out and put it in my Tivo. The Tivo wouldn't boot... :-( So, I put the drive back in the newly purchased series 3 and it booted up there. I decided that I didn't want to mess with any kickstart codes using the original HD in my tivo, for fear of corruption. I cloned the drive to one of the WD drives I had. The cloned drive booted up in the new Tivo. When I tried to boot off the cloned drive in my Tivo, no joy. I didn't get past the screen that is burned into the firmware. I tried the backup boot partition, ran kickstart 57 and 58, but still could not get the cloned drive to boot in my Tivo. I now think that there is either a SATA controller issue, or a RAM issue. I have resigned myself to losing that lifetime subscription. On the bright side, I've learned quite a bit on hacking virtual machines to see "raw" disks. :-)

I hear you are looking for storage... I have a dropbox account that has 50GB free... Please PM me, and I'll hook you up. It's the least I can do, since your help has been invaluable to me and everyone in this forum.

Sincerely,

Riten

[MungoJerrie]

Looking for an image for a Toshiba SD-H400, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[unitron]

I'm looking for an image for a Tivo TCD24004A, any guidance on where I can find one is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Do you need an image that will fit on the original 40GB drive, or do you have a larger replacement?

[hutchla]

Hi, Does anyone have an image for a Tivo HD 160 GB - TCD652160? My original HD died. I have a spare 160GB. Thanks!

[unitron]

Hi, Does anyone have an image for a Tivo HD 160 GB - TCD652160? My original HD died. I have a spare 160GB. Thanks!

Yes, I do. One for restoring via MFS Live and one to be used with WinMFS.

Links to them are cleverly hidden in this thread and you might have to go so far as to click on the "Search this thread" button near the top of the page and insert the secret code TCD652160 :)

And if you don't have a dropbox account of your own (not necessary for downloading), if you let me extend an invitation to you and sign up with them that way, we both get extra free storage space. Email or PM me, or if you aren't allowed to without more posts, say so and I'll contact you if you enable it on your user preferences.

[GBK33]

Anyone have an image for a premiere box?

[lpwcomp]

Anyone have an image for a premiere box?They don't exist. There is no way to create a truncated backup of a Premiere.

[unitron]

Anyone have an image for a premiere box?

It's on the original drive weaknees removed when they put the bigger one in. :(

[lpwcomp]

It's on the original drive weaknees removed when they put the bigger one in. :(Assuming that Weaknees doesn't have a special arrangement whereby they acquire driveless TiVos.

[Orthanos]

Unitron.

I too am looking for an image for the Toshiba SD-H400 S2. My drive is 80G and I have a spare 160 I would like to use.

I can't get past the powering up screen, and have even tried a working S1 Philips drive but no luck. that time I got nothing but snow.

Before i just throw it away I would love to try restoring with the tools and see if a good image will work.

Thanks in advance
I have a drop box account somewhere I can find the info for (I hope) hehee

Anyway, any help would be appreciated.

-Orthanos/Jose

[unitron]

Unitron.

I too am looking for an image for the Toshiba SD-H400 S2. My drive is 80G and I have a spare 160 I would like to use.

I can't get past the powering up screen, and have even tried a working S1 Philips drive but no luck. that time I got nothing but snow.

Before i just throw it away I would love to try restoring with the tools and see if a good image will work.

Thanks in advance
I have a drop box account somewhere I can find the info for (I hope) hehee

Anyway, any help would be appreciated.

-Orthanos/Jose

Don't capitalize me, it tickles. :)

I can't help with images for TiVos that have DVD drives or satellite tuners. Never got my hands on any of them.

Maybe motorcycle_rider

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/member.php?u=227446


can help you out. PM or email him.

[Orthanos]

Thanks,

I used some mfstools and I have a bad partition table :(

Now to find an image or backup

[unitron]

Thanks,

I used some mfstools and I have a bad partition table :(

Now to find an image or backup

Use either the MFS Live cd v1.4 (the successor to MFS Tools) or WinMFS (a program that runs on Windows XP or newer, and is written by the same guy as MFS Live).

Both are available at mfslive.org

Do you know exactly what's wrong with the partition table?

Except, of course, in a TiVo drive, it's not a partition table, it's an Apple Partition Map.

Is the 80GB drive the original factory installed drive for that Toshiba?

[Orthanos]

Using the WinMFS I am getting the following:

Error Number: 6
Error Message: Error reading the partition table.

Once I click ok, no matter what option i choose i get Not a Tivo Drive.

the frustrations of not having enough posts to send pm's or emails. haha

[Orthanos]

I have a Mac, Do you think I could format a new drive as a mac journaled drive and then work some magic to get it as a blank tivo drive?

[unitron]

Using the WinMFS I am getting the following:

Error Number: 6
Error Message: Error reading the partition table.

Once I click ok, no matter what option i choose i get Not a Tivo Drive.

the frustrations of not having enough posts to send pm's or emails. haha

Are you running WinMFS on a Mac or a PC?

[Orthanos]

Are you running WinMFS on a Mac or a PC?

Running on Windows XP (yeah I know its old and ghetto, but it works) :)

[lpwcomp]

Running on Windows XP (yeah I know its old and ghetto, but it works) :)Some of us are still running Win2K.

[Orthanos]

Some of us are still running Win2K.

haha, as long as it works. :)

[motorcycle_rider]

Don't capitalize me, it tickles. :)

I can't help with images for TiVos that have DVD drives or satellite tuners. Never got my hands on any of them.

Maybe motorcycle_rider

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/member.php?u=227446


can help you out. PM or email him.

I have one, now just to find out where I left the link..... try this one its winmfs

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/62129777/Winmfs_SD-H400.zip

[Bracer99]

Might as well throw this out here as well...

I was trying to use WinMFS to replace the (failing, but not yet dead) drives in a Sony SVR-3000 this morning, but since it's been a couple of years since I did it last time I managed to flub it somehow. Now it refuses to boot up, no matter which set of drives I use (and yes, I tried both options under Restore Bootpage).

I could have sworn I had an image saved somewhere for just such an emergency, but after several hours of searching it hasn't turned up.

Lil' help?...

[unitron]

Might as well throw this out here as well...

I was trying to use WinMFS to replace the (failing, but not yet dead) drives in a Sony SVR-3000 this morning, but since it's been a couple of years since I did it last time I managed to flub it somehow. Now it refuses to boot up, no matter which set of drives I use (and yes, I tried both options under Restore Bootpage).

I could have sworn I had an image saved somewhere for just such an emergency, but after several hours of searching it hasn't turned up.

Lil' help?...

Let me see if I understand.

You have the version of that S2 Sony that came with 2 drives instead of one?

You tried to copy the 2 drives currently in the unit to 2 other drives?

And now the new replacements won't work and the ones that were in it won't work either?

I haven't heard of that unit having problems with capacitors going bad in the power supply, but since you've already got the lid off you should eliminate that as a possible problem.

I know that the S1 Sony and Philips models could use each others images to a limited degree if you swapped remotes.

(Only recommended for test and experimentation purposes)

Perhaps a TCD240xxx image (which will supposedly work on a 140 as well) would boot up enough to let you confirm that the Sony itself is still working.

You could put it on the replacement drive set, or one of them, and then overwrite it later when you get the right image.

Here are images that will need to restore to a drive bigger than the average 80GB drive (orginally was on a Maxtor with slightly higher LBA number than other brands's 80GB drives).

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8707432#post8707432

[Bracer99]

Let me see if I understand.

You have the version of that S2 Sony that came with 2 drives instead of one?

You tried to copy the 2 drives currently in the unit to 2 other drives?

And now the new replacements won't work and the ones that were in it won't work either?

I haven't heard of that unit having problems with capacitors going bad in the power supply, but since you've already got the lid off you should eliminate that as a possible problem.

I know that the S1 Sony and Philips models could use each others images to a limited degree if you swapped remotes.

(Only recommended for test and experimentation purposes)

Perhaps a TCD240xxx image (which will supposedly work on a 140 as well) would boot up enough to let you confirm that the Sony itself is still working.

You could put it on the replacement drive set, or one of them, and then overwrite it later when you get the right image.

Here are images that will need to restore to a drive bigger than the average 80GB drive (orginally was on a Maxtor with slightly higher LBA number than other brands's 80GB drives).

Actually, this is an S2 Sony I upgraded many years ago, shortly after I first bought it (IIRC, replacing a single 80GB with two 120GB drives). It's been through at least two drive replacements since then, as each set inevitably just got old and failed. Both previous replacements went off without a hitch using the old Mfs Tools 2.0.

Since then I discovered WinMFS, and -- especially given that I no longer own any PCs with two IDE connectors (which also means I couldn't use something like Instant Cake) -- figured this would make it easy enough to create an image of the old (failing) drives from the Sony, then copy that image to a new pair of drives. But, like I said, I flubbed it somewhere along the line and now neither set of drives will successfully boot. I don't think it's any kind of hardware problem, although I'm not even sure I'd know how to check if that was the case.

I suppose I'll try the suggested image and at least to see if it will boot. Thanks for the help so far...

[unitron]

Actually, this is an S2 Sony I upgraded many years ago, shortly after I first bought it (IIRC, replacing a single 80GB with two 120GB drives). It's been through at least two drive replacements since then, as each set inevitably just got old and failed. Both previous replacements went off without a hitch using the old Mfs Tools 2.0.

Since then I discovered WinMFS, and -- especially given that I no longer own any PCs with two IDE connectors (which also means I couldn't use something like Instant Cake) -- figured this would make it easy enough to create an image of the old (failing) drives from the Sony, then copy that image to a new pair of drives. But, like I said, I flubbed it somewhere along the line and now neither set of drives will successfully boot. I don't think it's any kind of hardware problem, although I'm not even sure I'd know how to check if that was the case.

I suppose I'll try the suggested image and at least to see if it will boot. Thanks for the help so far...

If you have a pair of drives that were in the Sony, I'd think you'd have to connect both to the PC running WinMFS to make a proper image.

Do you have only one PATA/IDE header, and either the slave or master position taken up by your CD or DVD drive?

[Bracer99]

If you have a pair of drives that were in the Sony, I'd think you'd have to connect both to the PC running WinMFS to make a proper image.

Do you have only one PATA/IDE header, and either the slave or master position taken up by your CD or DVD drive?

The motherboard has one IDE connector (header?), and as you know, a given connector supports two drives, one master and one slave. I had both Sony drives connected at the same time.

All the other drives in the PC (including the BD/DVD/CD drive, along with the SSD I use as a main drive, the two 1TB I use for storage, and the older 500GB one I use just to back up the SSD regularly) use SATA. This is actually the first time I've used the IDE connector since I built the PC.

Actually, now that I think of it, could the problem have been getting the Sony drives attached to the PC backwards, reversing the master/slave setup? Both drives had been jumpered for cable select, and for convenience I used a different cable to hook them to the PC. I'm usually pretty careful about such things, but who knows?

IIRC (and all things considered, I'm probably not), once I had the PC booted to Windows (W7 64-bit), I couldn't get WinMFS to recognize the Tivo drives until I thought to run the program as an administrator. At that point, the A drive was listing as "S2 or S3 Tivo" but the B was showing as "windows". I tried making an image anyway and got an error message (something like "only one of these drives is actually from a a Tivo"). I then tried rebooting the PC and running WinMFS as administrator the first time, and this time both drives came up as Tivo. Yay. I made an image (saving to one of the PC's SATA storage drives), shut off the PC, hooked up the two new drives, rebooted the PC, and tried using WinMFS to restore the image to the new drives. It asked me if I wanted to expand to both drives, which I thought a little odd, but went ahead and did. After slipping the new drives into the Tivo, I hooked it up to the TV, but it never got past the "Welcome. Powering up" message. Putting the old drives back in got the same result. I tried hooking the new drives up to the PC again, running WinMFS and trying "Restore Bootpage" -- didn't help. I tried bootpage Option 2, and that didn't work either.

At that point, I figured my only option was to see if I could track down the image I thought I'd saved somewhere and try to restore from that, but then I couldn't find it despite a thorough and exhausting search, and presume it's been lost to the ages. So I posted my woes on a couple of different boards, seeing if anyone had a spare SVR3000 image they might throw my way. This pretty much brings you up to date.

Again, thanks for the help.

[unitron]

The motherboard has one IDE connector (header?), and as you know, a given connector supports two drives, one master and one slave. I had both Sony drives connected at the same time.

All the other drives in the PC (including the BD/DVD/CD drive, along with the SSD I use as a main drive, the two 1TB I use for storage, and the older 500GB one I use just to back up the SSD regularly) use SATA. This is actually the first time I've used the IDE connector since I built the PC.

Actually, now that I think of it, could the problem have been getting the Sony drives attached to the PC backwards, reversing the master/slave setup? Both drives had been jumpered for cable select, and for convenience I used a different cable to hook them to the PC. I'm usually pretty careful about such things, but who knows?

IIRC (and all things considered, I'm probably not), once I had the PC booted to Windows (W7 64-bit), I couldn't get WinMFS to recognize the Tivo drives until I thought to run the program as an administrator. At that point, the A drive was listing as "S2 or S3 Tivo" but the B was showing as "windows". I tried making an image anyway and got an error message (something like "only one of these drives is actually from a a Tivo"). I then tried rebooting the PC and running WinMFS as administrator the first time, and this time both drives came up as Tivo. Yay. I made an image (saving to one of the PC's SATA storage drives), shut off the PC, hooked up the two new drives, rebooted the PC, and tried using WinMFS to restore the image to the new drives. It asked me if I wanted to expand to both drives, which I thought a little odd, but went ahead and did. After slipping the new drives into the Tivo, I hooked it up to the TV, but it never got past the "Welcome. Powering up" message. Putting the old drives back in got the same result. I tried hooking the new drives up to the PC again, running WinMFS and trying "Restore Bootpage" -- didn't help. I tried bootpage Option 2, and that didn't work either.

At that point, I figured my only option was to see if I could track down the image I thought I'd saved somewhere and try to restore from that, but then I couldn't find it despite a thorough and exhausting search, and presume it's been lost to the ages. So I posted my woes on a couple of different boards, seeing if anyone had a spare SVR3000 image they might throw my way. This pretty much brings you up to date.

Again, thanks for the help.

One thing to watch out for is jumpering for cable select versus master and slave.

Is the IDE cable in the Sony an 80 conductor 40 pin, or the older 40 conductor 40 pin type?

[Bracer99]

One thing to watch out for is jumpering for cable select versus master and slave.

Is the IDE cable in the Sony an 80 conductor 40 pin, or the older 40 conductor 40 pin type?

Interesting -- now that you mention it, the IDE cable in the Sony is an older 40 wire version. Does that make any difference?

broke during the last time I was taking the unit apart. If that's the case, now I'm gonna have to go digging through my Ancient Spare Parts box looking for an older IDE cable...]

[Orthanos]

I have one, now just to find out where I left the link..... try this one its winmfs

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/62129777/Winmfs_SD-H400.zip

OMG you rock. I will try this out tonight. Thanks a ton I will see if this helps my issue. Should I keep trying to use WinMFS or should I use the new iso?

[unitron]

Interesting -- now that you mention it, the IDE cable in the Sony is an older 40 wire version. Does that make any difference?

broke during the last time I was taking the unit apart. If that's the case, now I'm gonna have to go digging through my Ancient Spare Parts box looking for an older IDE cable...]

The later TiVo brand S2s (which were not designed to accomodate 2 drives) came with 80 conductor 40 pin cables and drives jumpered cable select, but I think that Sony was one of the first S2s, and other than being designed for either one or two drives, I'm not sure how much S1 heritage that Sony carried over, or if it's IDE controller knows how to do 80 conductor style cable select (which differs somewhat, I think, from the old 40 conductor style cable select), so maybe you need to jumper the drives master and slave so that the drives tell the controller and not the other way around.

[unitron]

OMG you rock. I will try this out tonight. Thanks a ton I will see if this helps my issue. Should I keep trying to use WinMFS or should I use the new iso?

Once you unzip that you should have a file that ends in .tbk, which means use WinMFS to restore it.

But burn yourself a copy of the MFS Live cd v1.4 anyway (which you would use if you had a .bak file), just to keep handy. It's useful even if you don't own a TiVo.

[Orthanos]

Once you unzip that you should have a file that ends in .tbk, which means use WinMFS to restore it.

But burn yourself a copy of the MFS Live cd v1.4 anyway (which you would use if you had a .bak file), just to keep handy. It's useful even if you don't own a TiVo.

I have a .tak, .tbk and a .tbp in the file. Do I run them in a special order? Also I just realized my spare drive it not a maxtor but a WD 160G.

Should I do anything to the drive? I tried to backup my S1 to it, but it never finished and a restore of the tbk from my S1 gaave me an error.

[unitron]

I have a .tak, .tbk and a .tbp in the file. Do I run them in a special order? Also I just realized my spare drive it not a maxtor but a WD 160G.

Should I do anything to the drive? I tried to backup my S1 to it, but it never finished and a restore of the tbk from my S1 gaave me an error.

I'm guessing the .tak is a kernel backup and .tbp is a bootpage backup, but the truncated full image (which is what you want and need) is the .tbk

Just open WinMFS, select the drive, click restore, select the .tbk file, and let it do it's thing.

That model came with a Maxtor 80GB drive, which may or may not be one of the bigger than average LBA-wise models, but that 160GB drive will be more than big enough regardless of brand or LBA number.

[Bracer99]

The later TiVo brand S2s (which were not designed to accomodate 2 drives) came with 80 conductor 40 pin cables and drives jumpered cable select, but I think that Sony was one of the first S2s, and other than being designed for either one or two drives, I'm not sure how much S1 heritage that Sony carried over, or if it's IDE controller knows how to do 80 conductor style cable select (which differs somewhat, I think, from the old 40 conductor style cable select), so maybe you need to jumper the drives master and slave so that the drives tell the controller and not the other way around.

Worth a try I guess -- at this point I'll try anything. Still, if anyone has a drive image, that would be appreciated as well...

[Orthanos]

I'm guessing the .tak is a kernel backup and .tbp is a bootpage backup, but the truncated full image (which is what you want and need) is the .tbk

Just open WinMFS, select the drive, click restore, select the .tbk file, and let it do it's thing.

That model came with a Maxtor 80GB drive, which may or may not be one of the bigger than average LBA-wise models, but that 160GB drive will be more than big enough regardless of brand or LBA number.

I started with my 160GB WD HDD.
Deleted the format
Restored
Now it saw it was a tivo drive once again and no errors.

First boot I was pretty disappointed as it just did nothing although it got past the Welcome. Powering Up... Page to a black screen.

Next boot I took an RGB/Video cable and plugged that in, thinking maybe the cable out was not happy.

2nd boot I got the following:

Welcome. Powering up...
The on/Standby button lit green (This was new)
Almost there. Just a few minutes more screen. (I was pretty happy seeing a tivo logo

Now I am at a geren screen that says...

"The DVR has detected a serious problem and is trying to fix it.
This will take about three hours.

PLEASE DO NOT UNPLUG OR RESTART THE DVR!

If after three hours, the DVR does not restart, please call Customer Support.

Is this a step in the right direction?

Wait it out and pray for the best?

or is this a Green Screen of Death? :)

[unitron]

I started with my 160GB WD HDD.
Deleted the format
Restored
Now it saw it was a tivo drive once again and no errors.

First boot I was pretty disappointed as it just did nothing although it got past the Welcome. Powering Up... Page to a black screen.

Next boot I took an RGB/Video cable and plugged that in, thinking maybe the cable out was not happy.

2nd boot I got the following:

Welcome. Powering up...
The on/Standby button lit green (This was new)
Almost there. Just a few minutes more screen. (I was pretty happy seeing a tivo logo

Now I am at a geren screen that says...

"The DVR has detected a serious problem and is trying to fix it.
This will take about three hours.

PLEASE DO NOT UNPLUG OR RESTART THE DVR!

If after three hours, the DVR does not restart, please call Customer Support.

Is this a step in the right direction?

Wait it out and pray for the best?

or is this a Green Screen of Death? :)

Yes, that is the famous GSOD (or at least one of them).

Since the image came from a Toshiba with a different TSN, there's going to be some sort of adjustment process. This may be it.


Think of it more as a Green Screen of Severe Indigestion and give it time to sort itself out.

[ggieseke]

The later TiVo brand S2s (which were not designed to accomodate 2 drives) came with 80 conductor 40 pin cables and drives jumpered cable select, but I think that Sony was one of the first S2s, and other than being designed for either one or two drives, I'm not sure how much S1 heritage that Sony carried over, or if it's IDE controller knows how to do 80 conductor style cable select (which differs somewhat, I think, from the old 40 conductor style cable select), so maybe you need to jumper the drives master and slave so that the drives tell the controller and not the other way around.

My S2DTs all came with 40 conductor cables. It shouldn't matter, but when I tried to use the 80 conductor cable that came with a pre-imaged drive from DVRUpgrade it wouldn't boot up. I went back to the original cable and all was good.

[unitron]

My S2DTs all came with 40 conductor cables. It shouldn't matter, but when I tried to use the 80 conductor cable that came with a pre-imaged drive from DVRUpgrade it wouldn't boot up. I went back to the original cable and all was good.

You're talking about the TCD649080 or TCD649180, right?

The 3 I've got came with 80 conductor 40 pin cables, about 4" long, with the blue plug on the end plugged onto the motherboard header and the black on the end plugged into the 80GB WD drive, which was jumpered CS.

But the S2 DT was the last of the S2s, and the Sony 3000 one of the first, so they may not have the same IDE controller chip or circuitry.

Early in my SATA/IDE adapter experiments (avoid the SunPlus chipsets like the plague) I got an S2 DT to recognize one adapter jumpered master and another jumpered slave on a 40 conductor cable, so it's backwards compatible.

(Currently that machine is using the twinbreeze bracket, including the 80 conductor cable weaknees includes)

The question here is whether the Sony is frontwards compatible with 80 conductor cables.

I do not know, but the chance that it might not be makes doing the master/slave jumpering thing with a 40 conductor cable a valid troubleshooting technique.


Apparently in the early days of DVRupgrade's Instant Cake image cds there was a need to have the drive or drives jumpered master/slave instead of cable select for the image write to be successful, and maybe even after being put back in the TiVo. I really don't understand why it would make a difference, but hard drives seem to involve a lot of voodoo where the phase of the moon has to be just right and it matters in which direction you smear the goat's blood.

[Orthanos]

Yes, that is the famous GSOD (or at least one of them).

Since the image came from a Toshiba with a different TSN, there's going to be some sort of adjustment process. This may be it.


Think of it more as a Green Screen of Severe Indigestion and give it time to sort itself out.

Thanks unitron,
I will give it more time. at least now its past the GSOD, and starting so its moving in the right direction.

Thanks for all your help

[Orthanos]

My system now comes on and I can get through the TIVO screens.

Each reset the Tivo says there is an issue and that I need to reset the DMR, each time I do that it cycles around to the same thing.

Going to try and reset and clear settings and see if it will contact tivo and maybe that will help.

unless someone has other ideas :)

[unitron]

My system now comes on and I can get through the TIVO screens.

Each reset the Tivo says there is an issue and that I need to reset the DMR, each time I do that it cycles around to the same thing.

Going to try and reset and clear settings and see if it will contact tivo and maybe that will help.

unless someone has other ideas :)

If it'll let you get far enough into the menus to do a clear and delete everything, do so.

[Orthanos]

If it'll let you get far enough into the menus to do a clear and delete everything, do so.

Started that process this morning before leaving home. Will see how it did when I get home. I guess I better find that darn phone outlet in the meantime :)

thanks for all your help by the way.

[motorcycle_rider]

Orthanos, sorry i have not been able to add comments but unitron has been giving you the exact answer I would. I the image I provided for the toshiba drive everytime I used it always did the gsod then you had to do the clear and delete. If you made it that far you should be all set.

[Orthanos]

Orthanos, sorry i have not been able to add comments but unitron has been giving you the exact answer I would. I the image I provided for the toshiba drive everytime I used it always did the gsod then you had to do the clear and delete. If you made it that far you should be all set.

No worries and nothing to apologize for. He certainly pointed me in the right direction and now that guided setup is done I am happy to say that my Tivo has downloaded the new channels, and recognizes my lifetime service.

You two have been very helpful and I so appreciate it.

Thank you both for all your help!

[Orthanos]

So now its time to do the happy dance... :)

[unitron]

Orthanos, sorry i have not been able to add comments but unitron has been giving you the exact answer I would. I the image I provided for the toshiba drive everytime I used it always did the gsod then you had to do the clear and delete. If you made it that far you should be all set.

But without your image my advice would only have been of theoretical interest.

I tried theoretically recording TV shows, and backing them up to computer never seemed to work. :)

[Shogun82]

So I have read that the image file for the (TCD748000) Premiere XL 2TB drive does not exist online at this time. Is it true that this image can't be acquired over the web at this time? My original drive was taken out and sold, so it is impossible for me to get the image from the original drive.

Please let me know if I am (or am not) correct. Any additional info or advice would be greatly appreciated.

[lpwcomp]

So I have read that the image file for the (TCD748000) Premiere XL 2TB drive does not exist online at this time. Is it true that this image can't be acquired over the web at this time? My original drive was taken out and sold, so it is impossible for me to get the image from the original drive.

Please let me know if I am (or am not) correct. Any additional info or advice would be greatly appreciated.The reason no image file has been uploaded is that there is no way to create a backup for a Premiere except by copying the entire disk.

[Soapm]

The reason no image file has been uploaded is that there is no way to create a backup for a Premiere except by copying the entire disk.

I was thinking about copying mine then compressing it on the super, super compressions setting just to see how small it would be. I have two things stopping me, I don't have 2tb of space to work with and 2. my premier is filled with shows and I don't want to delete everything just to reduce the image size after compression.

I bought my premier already upgraded so I don't have the smaller stock drive to play with.

[L David Matheny]

I was thinking about copying mine then compressing it on the super, super compressions setting just to see how small it would be. I have two things stopping me, I don't have 2tb of space to work with and 2. my premier is filled with shows and I don't want to delete everything just to reduce the image size after compression.

I bought my premier already upgraded so I don't have the smaller stock drive to play with.

That's an interesting thought. I believe cloning utilities like Acronis can create a workable copy of a TiVo drive, and presumably their backup function might work to backup and restore an entire TiVo drive, with compression. But I doubt that deleting everything would reduce the size of the backup, since old video data would still be strewn throughout the drive. What would be interesting is to make a compressed backup of a virgin drive, which we hope would be largely filled with zeros, to see if that could be compressed to not much larger than a truncated backup. Not everybody has Acronis, but I believe the free TodoBackup from Easeus can do something similar.

[sbourgeo]

Philips DSR6000 3.5d image anyone? Trying to do a dd_rescue on my existing disk. :(

[syndicat]

Hi,

I need the image for TiVo HD (TCD652160), any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

[unitron]

Hi,

I need the image for TiVo HD (TCD652160), any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Well, if you search this thread for my posts you'll find one a few pages back.

[GoldenTiger]

Well, if you search this thread for my posts you'll find one a few pages back.

Took me all of 20 seconds to do, myself... :), found and used it to restore a TiVo HD earlier today. Thanks for having posted those!