Lost - Meet Kevin Johnson 3/20

[lew]

So, here are the possible explanations that I can think of:
1. plot hole slightly bigger than a bread-box.
2. Widmore's people are idiots.
3. Widmore and Ben are actually in cahoots in some way.
4. There are more double-agents on that boat, and whoever was in charge of freighter security is working for Ben.

I'm going with 4. But 3 could be an intriguing twist.

5. Tom did a good job creating a background for Kevin Johnson, maybe Kevin Johnson was a person who existed.
6. That's a standard box that everyone on the boat has for personal effects.

[Hunter Green]

There's no evidence that Ben's people (The Others) shot Karl and Rousseau. This is just speculation. It could very well be the freighter people starting Purge 2.0.
There's so many possibilities for who could have pulled the trigger, and Ben could be complicit in every one of them -- it's just as bad to send someone to where they'll get shot no matter who's the one who's going to shoot them.

I'll call you picky because of the looks thing. :)
Fair enough! But it still makes the point: there are plenty of red-blooded men for whom Kate is not their type even if you limit the question to looks only.

[420s]

Before this episode, I believed that Alex wasn't Ben's daughter and that he just took this "French Chick's" daughter. After seeing this episode, I have changed my mind. I think Alex is actually his biological daughter. Hear me out on this. :) Ben refered to her as "his daughter" while the french chick was there and she didn't even really flinch. I think that Ben, knowing that pregnant women die on the island, whated a child and had to impregnate someone off the island. He picked Rous. When she was almost due, "the island" brought her there, just like it brought the spinal surgeon there for Ben. Just my two cents. ;)

[latrobe7]

Fair enough! But it still makes the point: there are plenty of red-blooded men for whom Kate is not their type even if you limit the question to looks only.

True enough. The woman has no hips. I'll take Sun or Claire or Nikki or Shannon...

[getreal]

Before this episode, I believed that Alex wasn't Ben's daughter and that he just took this "French Chick's" daughter. After seeing this episode, I have changed my mind. I think Ben is actually his biological daughter. Hear me out on this. :) Ben refered to her as "his daughter" while the french chick was there and she didn't even really flinch. I think that Ben, knowing that pregnant women die on the island, whated a child and had to impregnate someone off the island. He picked Rous. When she was almost due, "the island" brought her there, just like it brought the spinal surgeon there for Ben. Just my two cents. ;)

Okay, for one, Ben cannot possibly be his own biological daughter. ;) Yeah, caught your typo. We know you meant Alex instead of Ben.

But it has already been established that Ben is NOT Alex' biological father.

Alex was raised by Ben since she was an infant, so he is the only "parent" she has known. Rousseau probably didn't flinch because she understands that Ben will tend to refer to Alex as "my daughter" because he has had 16 years of experiance as "her father".

And there has never been any indication that Ben and Rousseau had ever met prior to the island. He grew up on the island since he was about 10 and his father brought him to join the Dharma project.

[latrobe7]

But it has already been established that Ben is NOT Alex' biological father.

And there has never been any indication that Ben and Rousseau had ever met prior to the island. He grew up on the island since he was about 10 and his father brought him to join the Dharma project.
Now wait; I'm inclined to agree with you, but has that been proven? I mean, isn't it possible that Danielle's back-story is bogus and she has been on the Island longer than she let on; couldn't she be Annie? I know, that's wacky; but has it been definitively disproved...?

[MickeS]

Fair enough! But it still makes the point: there are plenty of red-blooded men for whom Kate is not their type even if you limit the question to looks only.
If I lived on an island like that, I wouldn't be picky. :)

Not that I'm picky anyway.

[420s]

We have pictures showing him off the island, passports, and different currencies. Just because he said he hadn't been off the island doesn't mean that he actually hadn't been off the island. And actually I think he said he was born on the island, which we know is a lie. I'm not sure if he ever said that he had never been off of the island. What been wants, he gets. I don't put it past him to go and get a woman pregnant off the island so he could have a child.

Concerning the not flinching...If someone took my daughter, it would be an issue everytime they called her their daughter.

[jeff125va]

Fair enough! But it still makes the point: there are plenty of red-blooded men for whom Kate is not their type even if you limit the question to looks only.

True enough. The woman has no hips. I'll take Sun or Claire or Nikki or Shannon...
Just to be clear, I'm sure that individual tastes vary enough that plenty of guys would prefer other women over Kate. I only meant that in the original context, to virtually anyone's tastes, she's more than attractive enough to make the point unequivocally. One would have to think that Tom both thought she was too ugly to even want to take a peek at her naked, and that he'd be so rude as to say that to her.

As far as Kate and the rest of the women, I think they've all been my favorite at one time or another. Juliet even had the lead during "The Other Woman." We need more rainstorm scenes in this show.

[getreal]

Concerning the not flinching...If someone took my daughter, it would be an issue everytime they called her their daughter.

Rousseau has already slapped and elbowed and punched Ben several times when he referred to Alex as "his", and she corrected him verbally each time as well.

I'd say you're trying to make something out of nothing by suggesting that Ben met and impregnated Danielle 16 or 17 years ago while on an excursion. He is clearly not suave or particularly charming on a "date", as we saw in Juliet's recent flashback episode.

Now, BatManuel, I'm sure could have swept Danielle off her feet years earlier, and he doesn't age and we HAVE seen him off-island when they persuaded Juliet to come with them.

[Sir_Q]

There's no evidence that Ben's people (The Others) shot Karl and Rousseau. This is just speculation. It could very well be the freighter people starting Purge 2.0.

My guess is Ben started coordinating the whole thing once Locke let him roam free.

[Rosincrans]

Before this episode, I believed that Alex wasn't Ben's daughter and that he just took this "French Chick's" daughter. After seeing this episode, I have changed my mind. I think Alex is actually his biological daughter. Hear me out on this. :) Ben refered to her as "his daughter" while the french chick was there and she didn't even really flinch. I think that Ben, knowing that pregnant women die on the island, whated a child and had to impregnate someone off the island. He picked Rous. When she was almost due, "the island" brought her there, just like it brought the spinal surgeon there for Ben. Just my two cents. ;)But wouldn't she have recognized him when she caught him in the net? (his introduction to Lost) She certainly didn't act like she knew who he was.

[wprager]

Shooting from off island? Even the best snipers can't shoot accurately from more than 1000 yards. You really think someone is ambushing them from off island?

Sorry, the smiley was implied.

[Delta13]

But wouldn't she have recognized him when she caught him in the net? (his introduction to Lost) She certainly didn't act like she knew who he was.But it still a little strange, that whole scene. She said she had never seen an Other before, but she put an arrow through the first one she did. She also said about Ben, "All he does is lie." Seemed odd then, but maybe it makes more sense now.

Aside from the fact that it's true, of course. :) But how did Danielle know?

Oh well. I hope either we find out next episode, or she's not really dead. (or both)

[Hunter Green]

As far as Kate and the rest of the women, I think they've all been my favorite at one time or another. Juliet even had the lead during "The Other Woman." We need more rainstorm scenes in this show.I don't think there's been anyone on Lost that really stood out for me as great eye candy, truthfully. But that's okay: if I wanted eye candy I'd probably be watching something else. That said, if they happened to get someone yummy I wouldn't complain.

[stiffi]

Rousseau has already slapped and elbowed and punched Ben several times when he referred to Alex as "his", and she corrected him verbally each time as well.
.

I took Rousseau's reaction to be her acquiesing because she knew Ben was trying to protect Alex, which she also would want. She figured, with all the craziness, Ben probably had the best resources to get Alex to a safe place. Of course, he double crossed her, but she was probably prepared for that also.

[latrobe7]

OK, I'm posting my off-the-wall suspicions here just in case they turn out to be right. I have no stong evidence for these, but they haven't been disproven either.

-Dannielle is Annie
-Alex is Ben's biological daughter, not just adopted
-Alex is pregnant
-Ben and dANNIElle are the Adam & Eve skeletons

[jeff125va]

I don't think there's been anyone on Lost that really stood out for me as great eye candy, truthfully. But that's okay: if I wanted eye candy I'd probably be watching something else. That said, if they happened to get someone yummy I wouldn't complain.
Women in Vermont must be AMAZING looking. :)

[getreal]

I don't think there's been anyone on Lost that really stood out for me as great eye candy, truthfully. But that's okay: if I wanted eye candy I'd probably be watching something else. That said, if they happened to get someone yummy I wouldn't complain.

Women in Vermont must be AMAZING looking. :)

Some people prefer the Rosanne Barrs of the world, and some prefer the Evangeline Lilys of the world. Some say po-TAY-to, some say po-TAH-to.
:p

[getreal]

OK, I'm posting my off-the-wall suspicions here just in case they turn out to be right. I have no stong evidence for these, but they haven't been disproven either.

-Dannielle is Annie
-Alex is Ben's biological daughter, not just adopted
-Alex is pregnant
-Ben and dANNIElle are the Adam & Eve skeletons

:eek: Very interesting ...

[gchance]

Some people prefer the Rosanne Barrs of the world, and some prefer the Evangeline Lilys of the world. Some say po-TAY-to, some say po-TAH-to.
:p

WOW. Are you saying that someone wants to see Rose in a bikini, coming out of the ocean, in the rain?

Greg

[getreal]

WOW. Are you saying that someone wants to see Rose in a bikini, coming out of the ocean, in the rain?

Greg

Probably a monokini, but it works for Bernard.

But if you were talking about Roseanne ... urp ... I just threw up in my mouth. :eek:

[420s]

Why is his post "interesting" and mine is "No Way"? :p

[DevdogAZ]

Sorry, the smiley was implied.
Well, it clearly wasn't inferred. ;)

[latrobe7]

Why is his post "interesting" and mine is "No Way"? :p

Hmm... I don't know, maybe it was one of the other bullet points that interested him. But I think you may be right about Alex being Ben's biological daughter - but then again, why would he need to say she was adopted? The other Others know he can leave the Island, so why pretend she is adopted? He could have just told her that her mom died in childbirth (or some other way when she was too small to remember).

[Rob Helmerichs]

I just see no way in which Alex being Ben's biological daughter makes any sense at all.

[jeff125va]

I just see no way in which Alex being Ben's biological daughter makes any sense at all.
Agreed. It's not like she hasn't talked about him before.

[latrobe7]

Agreed. It's not like she hasn't talked about him before.
She who? Alex? How would Alex know the truth? And Danielle, well what has she been truthful about?

Seems to me that there's a lot on this show that currently makes no sense. I don't know why this idea is any more absurd than so much that goes on.

I think it's less unbelievable that Alex is Ben's biological daughter than that the Island can control people thousands of mile away.

[stellie93]

The whole thing with Danielle seems off somehow. When we met her we didn't know about all the people wandering around the island all the time. Now that we do it makes no sense that someone as tough as Danielle with basically nothing to lose would let them take her baby and do nothing about it. Like when Ben and Juliet go to the medical station alone, or when Ben's Dad is driving around in his van. There would be opportunities to kidnap someone and hold them in exchange for your daughter. What about the whole poison gas thing--where was she then?

I guess I chalked it up to her being emotionally screwed up from being alone all those years. It didn't make much sense for her to take Ben to the Losties when she found him, either. :confused:

I can't really see her with Ben, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was more to Danielle's story than we have so far. ;)

[gchance]

Now that we do it makes no sense that someone as tough as Danielle with basically nothing to lose would let them take her baby and do nothing about it.

She wasn't near as strong when she arrived. Shortly after she arrived:

- has her child abducted
- people start freaking out
- things escalate to the point where she feels obligated to kill everyone else

If that happened to anyone they might have been more than a little freaked out. I'd say she completely went over the edge when she killed everyone, unless there's something else there we don't know.

So then, she lives by herself for 12 years, part being pissed off over Danielle, and part being afraid of the Others. Yes she's strong, but the fact that they have her daughter makes her fearful.

In the meantime she's become sort of a female Locke, living off the land and protecting herself with any means possible. My guess is the reason she hasn't gone after her daughter is she's just one person.

That also brings up something else that I don't quite remember. When Ben introduces Danielle to Rousseau, did Rousseau know Danielle was her daughter up until that moment? I mean obviously she had suspicions, but did she know for sure?

I can't really see her with Ben, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was more to Danielle's story than we have so far. ;)

Up until we saw the Freighter People, isn't she the only person we haven't seen a flashback for?

Greg

[jeff125va]

She who? Alex? How would Alex know the truth? And Danielle, well what has she been truthful about?

Seems to me that there's a lot on this show that currently makes no sense. I don't know why this idea is any more absurd than so much that goes on.

I think it's less unbelievable that Alex is Ben's biological daughter than that the Island can control people thousands of mile away.
Sorry about the unclear use of pronouns. Danielle has talked about Alex's father before. His name is Robert.

I think there's very little that doesn't make sense once it's been explained. I think that when things don't make sense, it's usually pretty clear that there's something that we don't know. For example, when we first heard Naomi say that the wreckage had been found, there were all kinds of theories about alternate timelines, etc., but now we have, not the entire story, but more than enough of it to provide a pretty rational explanation.

[latrobe7]

Sorry about the unclear use of pronouns. Danielle has talked about Alex's father before. His name is Robert.Well, yeah, but so what? There's no verification of her story; as a matter of fact, most of the things she has said don't make much sense and/or are inconsistent.

I think there's very little that doesn't make sense once it's been explained. My point exactly.

[gchance]

Whoops, I just realized, I got their names confused. Danielle = Rousseau, ALEX = Alex. :) What I said still stays though. :P

Sorry about the unclear use of pronouns. Danielle has talked about Alex's father before. His name is Robert.

It's been a while, but... you sure it's not Richard? :)

Greg

[latrobe7]

Whoops, I just realized, I got their names confused. Danielle = Rousseau, ALEX = Alex. :) What I said still stays though. :P

It's been a while, but... you sure it's not Richard? :)

Greg

It was Robert. And 16 years, not 12...;)

[gchance]

It was Robert. And 16 years, not 12...;)

Doesn't matter, Richard can leave and come back willy nilly, AND he stays young. Not to mention he's good looking. What young, beautiful French woman wouldn't want that?

Greg

[latrobe7]

Doesn't matter, Richard can leave and come back willy nilly, AND he stays young. Not to mention he's good looking. What young, beautiful French woman wouldn't want that?
Oh, I see where you're going; sure, why not Richard Alpert? But I'm sticking with Ben until we see Danielle's back-story and see who "Robert" is.

[mqpickles]

Doesn't matter, Richard can leave and come back willy nilly, AND he stays young. Not to mention he's good looking. What young, beautiful French woman wouldn't want that?

GregDidn't Danielle say she killed Robert?

Of course, if we're going with she's lying, then she could have lied about that too.

[wprager]

I rewatched the end, just for fun. A couple of things made me think:

1. Karl was shot in the back, upper right-hand side. Sure, there's a lung there, but come on, it's *The Island* and, besides, he's got two of them.

2. When Russeau got shot we didn't see anything. Just the wizz of the bullet and she falls down.

Why make a special point of showing Karl's wound, and not one for Russeau? Why make sure that the very visible wound is not located near the heart or any other vital organs.

Wasn't Russeau around when Charlotte got shot? Could she have borrowed the vest? How did Russeau "know" that Karl was "gone" without so much as casting a sideways glance at him? Is there something else there, like Russeau being part of the set up to get rid of Karl? After all, Karl has a loaded weapon pointed at Alex.

[gchance]

Didn't Danielle say she killed Robert?

At this point I have no clue, I don't remember her referring to Alex's father by name anyway. I threw out Richard to be sillly, but when I typed it, it sounded as plausible as just about anything else posted here. Or things that have happened in the show, for that matter.

It's no different than Christian Shepherd being both Jack's & Claire's dad. Weird coincidences happen on this show.

Greg

[jamesbobo]

As far as Alex being pregnant, I think Ben thinks she is. The camera panned to her abdomen as Ben was looking at her and a small bulge was showing. Ben said that the temple could be the last safe place on the Island. I took that to mean it was the one possible place where she could give birth and not die.

But I need my memory refreashed, who is Annie?

[jeff125va]

Well, yeah, but so what? There's no verification of her story; as a matter of fact, most of the things she has said don't make much sense and/or are inconsistent.

My point exactly.
It might not have been verified, but usually after someone lies, and then is caught in the lie, then tells what seems to be the truth, it usually is. (in Lost I mean). It made perfect sense after she explained why she had made up the story about the black smoke.

But what doesn't make sense at this point about Alex? What needs explaining? We know the Others like to kidnap kids. We know that Ben's a far bigger liar than Rousseau. I guess I'm just not sure what's prompting this speculation in the first place. I mean, we didn't see Christian Shephard and Claire's mom having sex, or even lying naked in bed together. So why hasn't anyone ever brought up that Ben might be Claire's dad?

[jeff125va]

As far as Alex being pregnant, I think Ben thinks she is. The camera panned to her abdomen as Ben was looking at her and a small bulge was showing. Ben said that the temple could be the last safe place on the Island. I took that to mean it was the one possible place where she could give birth and not die.

But I need my memory refreashed, who is Annie?
Ben's childhood friend from the episode where we saw him arriving on the island when he was around 12 years old. ("The Man Behind The Curtain") What became of her was never really explained. It seemed that they were close and that he wouldn't have killed her off in the purge (which was years later), but it was never addressed either way.

[latrobe7]

It might not have been verified, but usually after someone lies, and then is caught in the lie, then tells what seems to be the truth, it usually is. (in Lost I mean). It made perfect sense after she explained why she had made up the story about the black smoke.

But what doesn't make sense at this point about Alex? What needs explaining? We know the Others like to kidnap kids. We know that Ben's a far bigger liar than Rousseau. I guess I'm just not sure what's prompting this speculation in the first place. I mean, we didn't see Christian Shephard and Claire's mom having sex, or even lying naked in bed together. So why hasn't anyone ever brought up that Ben might be Claire's dad?Very little of Danielle's stories have been vetted to where she would be caught in the lie in the first place. She says she has been there 16 years, which means DHARMA would have been in full force, yet she doesn't mention anything about DHARMA, only the Others, who she claims only to have heard in the form of whispers but never actually seen. So she thinks Sayid is an Other and tortures him for info about Alex. Yet, when she captures Ben - the first real Other she has encountered in 16 years, apparently - she doesn't question him about Alex, she hands him over to the Losties, telling Sayid not to trust him and that he "will lie, for a long time... he will lie." How does she know that?

She also said that the radio tower was near the Black Rock and controlled by the Others; but the radio tower is on a hill, in a clearing and abandoned. I just think there is very little on which to base her credibility.

And as far why the speculation in the first place, it keeps me busy between episodes. And if Claire had been born on the Island, and her mom also lived on the Island Claire's entire life, and Claire was raised by Ben; then the idea of Ben being her dad would probably be floated...

[MonsterJoe]

Seems to me that there's a lot on this show that currently makes no sense. I don't know why this idea is any more absurd than so much that goes on.


+1 This is the thought that comes to mind everytime someone shoots someone's theory down.

[jeff125va]

Very little of Danielle's stories have been vetted to where she would be caught in the lie in the first place. She says she has been there 16 years, which means DHARMA would have been in full force, yet she doesn't mention anything about DHARMA, only the Others, who she claims only to have heard in the form of whispers but never actually seen. So she thinks Sayid is an Other and tortures him for info about Alex. Yet, when she captures Ben - the first real Other she has encountered in 16 years, apparently - she doesn't question him about Alex, she hands him over to the Losties, telling Sayid not to trust him and that he "will lie, for a long time... he will lie." How does she know that?

She also said that the radio tower was near the Black Rock and controlled by the Others; but the radio tower is on a hill, in a clearing and abandoned. I just think there is very little on which to base her credibility.

And as far why the speculation in the first place, it keeps me busy between episodes. And if Claire had been born on the Island, and her mom also lived on the Island Claire's entire life, and Claire was raised by Ben; then the idea of Ben being her dad would probably be floated...
I guess. But I'm going to remain skeptical until we at least see Ben and Danielle lying naked in bed together. And if that's all they show, I'm sure there'll still be more debate about it. :)

[Cindy1230]

I don't have anything Lost related to say, but it's my 100th post and this where I wanted it to be. :D

[unicorngoddess]

I don't have anything Lost related to say, but it's my 100th post and this where I wanted it to be. :D

Then HAPPY YAMM to you! :up:

[DevdogAZ]

Very little of Danielle's stories have been vetted to where she would be caught in the lie in the first place. She says she has been there 16 years, which means DHARMA would have been in full force, yet she doesn't mention anything about DHARMA, only the Others, who she claims only to have heard in the form of whispers but never actually seen. So she thinks Sayid is an Other and tortures him for info about Alex. Yet, when she captures Ben - the first real Other she has encountered in 16 years, apparently - she doesn't question him about Alex, she hands him over to the Losties, telling Sayid not to trust him and that he "will lie, for a long time... he will lie." How does she know that?
Why do you say that DHARMA would have been around 16 years ago when Danielle's ship crashed on the Island? I don't remember any specific time clues for the Purge, but I remember getting the sense that it was mid-80s.

[jeff125va]

Why do you say that DHARMA would have been around 16 years ago when Danielle's ship crashed on the Island? I don't remember any specific time clues for the Purge, but I remember getting the sense that it was mid-80s.
True. I can't see how Ben could have had Alex at the time of the purge. I know they've gone back to previous scenes from different perspectives and stuff, but Alex would have been VERY young at that time if she had been born by then. Roger's corpse looked pretty rotted. (I'm not a forensic anthropologist, but I watch them on TV.) I think the purge was before Alex was born. Have we had any indication that Dharma was into kidnapping children?

[latrobe7]

Why do you say that DHARMA would have been around 16 years ago when Danielle's ship crashed on the Island? I don't remember any specific time clues for the Purge, but I remember getting the sense that it was mid-80s.

Based on Mikhail's story that he came to the Island 11 years prior 2004 as a member of the DHARMA Intiative. The producers have said that we should believe Mikhail's story, except that he was not a member of DHARMA.

ETA: Also, Kelvin Inman, who was in DHARMA (in the Hatch) could not have gotten to the Island before the early 90's, due to his participation in the first Iraq invasion.

[DevdogAZ]

Based on Mikhail's story that he came to the Island 11 years prior 2004 as a member of the DHARMA Intiative. The producers have said that we should believe Mikhail's story, except that he was not a member of DHARMA.
Interesting. I don't remember Mikhail saying that, but I don't doubt it's true. I guess that means the Purge was sometime in the 90s then.

[gchance]

I don't remember where I was reading it, but I thought the purge was around 1996.

Greg

[latrobe7]

I guess that means the Purge was sometime in the 90s then.

There's hints of it happening in the 80's, too; like the Blast-Door map indicates some 'incident' happened in 1984 and/or 1985 - but my bet is that the Incident refers to something other than the Purge.

[BeanMeScot]

There's hints of it happening in the 80's, too; like the Blast-Door map indicates some 'incident' happened in 1984 and/or 1985 - but my bet is that the Incident refers to something other than the Purge.
I think this incident was an electromagnetic event.

[stellie93]

The podcast promises us an electromagnetic event and more purple sky! I can't wait! :up:

[mqpickles]

I don't remember where I was reading it, but I thought the purge was around 1996.

GregInteresting. Same year that unstuck Desmond is from.

[latrobe7]

After watching last night's enhanced replay of "Beginning of the End" I'm backing off the idea that Alex is Ben's biological daughter.

It's true that in "Meet Kevin Johnson", Danielle did not object when Ben referred to Alex as his daughter, but I had forgotten how she smacked him and clearly said "She's not your daughter" in this episode. And in the 'enhanced' pop-ups, they reiterated Danielle's story of being shipwrecked for 16 years. If that story was false, I'm thinking they would have put some qualifier before the story, like "Danielle says she was shipwrecked..." but instead they just state the story.

Regarding the timeline not matching up in terms of Danielle arriving before the purge; I think maybe the purge did happen in the 80's. Although Kelvin could not have arrived on the island prior to the early 90's; his job was to man the Swan. Ben and the Others supposedly did not know of the Swan until the Losties found the Hatch (link) (http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Swan#The_Others). So maybe the Swan occupants were kept isolated from the rest of DHARMA; they knew something happened and that gas was released and that's why Kelvin would always wear the protective suit when he went outside - which was very similar to the suits worn by Charlotte and Faraday, BTW. At some point he realized the danger from the gas had past and something had happened to the rest of DHARMA. He kept wearing the suit as a ruse to keep Desmond from coming out of the hatch and Kelvin could work on his escape plan...

But then again, there's Mikhail's story, which is supposed to be true, where he says he arrived in '93 before the purge. And Danielle's stories and interactions with Ben still don't make sense so I'm not abandoning the Danielle-is-Annie theory entirely quite yet...

[philw1776]

After watching last night's enhanced replay of "Beginning of the End" I'm backing off the idea that Alex is Ben's biological daughter.

It's true that in "Meet Kevin Johnson", Danielle did not object when Ben referred to Alex as his daughter, but I had forgotten how she smacked him and clearly said "She's not your daughter" in this episode. And in the 'enhanced' pop-ups, they reiterated Danielle's story of being shipwrecked for 16 years. If that story was false, I'm thinking they would have put some qualifier before the story, like "Danielle says she was shipwrecked..." but instead they just state the story.


Danielle's actions you cite provide motive for sociopathic Ben having his OTHERS shoot the crazy French lady; he had a different motive for caping Alex's needy sperm factory boyfriend.

[Fool Me Twice]

Interesting. But, remember in season three when Kate wore that hat and looked really hot?

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And then later she wasn't wearing a hat, but was STILL really hot?

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[rondotcom]

At the temple will we see the three toed statue

[rondotcom]

WOW. Are you saying that someone wants to see Rose in a bikini, coming out of the ocean, in the rain?

Greg

Speaking as a middle-aged man.ummm...yes.

[Fool Me Twice]

At the temple will we see the three toed statue

Four-toed. And I hope we learn something of the ancient islanders.

[gchance]

After watching last night's enhanced replay of "Beginning of the End" I'm backing off the idea that Alex is Ben's biological daughter.

I rewatched it as well, and did you catch the OTHER butt crack that we missed earlier?

It just wasn't as pleasant as Naomi's...

Greg

[gchance]

Interesting. But, remember in season three when Kate wore that hat and looked really hot?

And then later she wasn't wearing a hat, but was STILL really hot?

You most definitely have a point here!

Greg

[latrobe7]

I rewatched it as well, and did you catch the OTHER butt crack that we missed earlier?
Ah, yes; the "cannonball" moment - that one I don't think I need to see the screen-shot of.

[wprager]

19 days to go. I can't believe we are all out of speculations!

[woolybugger]

Anyone been playing on Find815.com (http://www.find815.com/)? I had finished the game a while back and just went back to the site. It's just showing a journal page and a pic of Sam. I can't seem to find anything to click on. Anyone else?

[latrobe7]

Anyone been playing on Find815.com (http://www.find815.com/)? I had finished the game a while back and just went back to the site. It's just showing a journal page and a pic of Sam. I can't seem to find anything to click on. Anyone else?

Yeah, it's been that way for a week or so now. I can't find anything to click on either, there's some discussion at DarkUFO (http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2008/03/find815-coming-back.html), but it doesn't seem as if anyone knows anything else...

[woolybugger]

Yeah, it's been that way for a week or so now. I can't find anything to click on either, there's some discussion at DarkUFO (http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2008/03/find815-coming-back.html), but it doesn't seem as if anyone knows anything else...

Thanks, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything! :)

[Cindy1230]

I finally watched 4/10th Eli Stone and saw a new preview. :D
~10 days to go!!!!