I need direction

[rbaron]

I am nor sure if this is the place to ask such a question but he goes anyway;

I now have an older Hughes Tivo connected to D*. It has dual tuners so I can record two shows at once. Since it has the dual tuners I can switch back and forth watching two shows, like football or whatever I want. I plan to update my TV to a HD set and want to do the same with a new HD DVR,

I added a HD TV and a HD-21 700 i another room and I find that the above scenario is not an option. Even though I can record two shows at the same time I find the option of switching between the two tuners is not an option. Even though the machine buffers 90 minutes if you change channels and come back your starting over.

So, given the above comparison between the old and the new, my question is;

What kind of HD DVR is out there that will;

Work with D* and
Give me the dual channel back and forth thing?

Thanks for the help.....

[ebonovic]

There is no HD-DVR (other then the HR10-250, which doesn't receive the latest channel), that has dual live buffers (The function you are referring to)... that is compatible with DirecTV.

[Bob_Newhart]

I have the HR20. If I set it up to record 2 football games at the same time, what would be the easiest way to switch back and forth between the two, somewhat simulating the dual buffer deal?

[ebonovic]

I have the HR20. If I set it up to record 2 football games at the same time, what would be the easiest way to switch back and forth between the two, somewhat simulating the dual buffer deal?

Start playback of one of the recordings....
then go to list, start playback of the other recording...

HIT PREV, to go back and forth.

That is as close as you can get...
The one down side, is that the pause point is not retained between the two pause points.


The feature just simply is not available in the HR2* platform.
There are things that come close... but it is not the same.

[Bob_Newhart]

Start playback of one of the recordings....
then go to list, start playback of the other recording...

HIT PREV, to go back and forth.

That is as close as you can get...
The one down side, is that the pause point is not retained between the two pause points.


The feature just simply is not available in the HR2* platform.
There are things that come close... but it is not the same.
Bummer. If it held the pause point, then that would work out okay.

[jimb726]

Bummer. If it held the pause point, then that would work out okay.

That being said, if you are watching both as recordings, then you can jump from game to game. It is not a single button push but it is possible.

[coachO]

I use the HR10 as my primary because I can switch between 2 shows and a host of other subtle reasons. However, the HD is limited to OTA and a few others.

I use the HR20 to record the shows that my HR10 does not get in HD and watching a pre-recorded show is the only time I use the HR20. Seems to work okay for me but I am ready for the next generation of DVRs.

The other option is HD Tivo with cable, but there are issues here also.

[TyroneShoes]

I use the HR10 as my primary because I can switch between 2 shows and a host of other subtle reasons. However, the HD is limited to OTA and a few others.

I use the HR20 to record the shows that my HR10 does not get in HD and watching a pre-recorded show is the only time I use the HR20. Seems to work okay for me but I am ready for the next generation of DVRs.

The other option is HD Tivo with cable, but there are issues here also.

You know what CoachO?

I think that in about 50 words you have innocently and succinctly summed up just about all of what the Tivo vs. HR2x discussion on these forums has been about, or at least what it should be about. If only everyone could accept both platforms for what they are and understand that they complement each other the way you have described rather than considering them mortal enemies.

Of course they really are, but this post describes how subs can forget about all of that and instead adopt an attitude that will allow them to benefit from the best of both worlds until the HR10 issue becomes moot in a couple of years (and when newer DVRs will probably make both current platforms seem quaint and outdated).

So my advice to everyone is to read and understand CoachO's post, and ignore pretty much everything else that has ever been said here, and you will then see a point of view that will serve you much better than all of the intricate comparison, impractical wishing, and relentless whining ever will.

Thank you for saying what should have been said all along.

[RS4]

You know what CoachO?

I think that in about 50 words you have innocently and succinctly summed up just about all of what the Tivo vs. HR2x discussion on these forums has been about, or at least what it should be about. If only everyone could accept both platforms for what they are and understand that they complement each other the way you have described rather than considering them mortal enemies.

Of course they really are, but this post describes how subs can forget about all of that and instead adopt an attitude that will allow them to benefit from the best of both worlds until the HR10 issue becomes moot in a couple of years (and when newer DVRs will probably make both current platforms seem quaint and outdated).

So my advice to everyone is to read and understand CoachO's post, and ignore pretty much everything else that has ever been said here, and you will then see a point of view that will serve you much better than all of the intricate comparison, impractical wishing, and relentless whining ever will.

Thank you for saying what should have been said all along.


This seems to be the only option for folks who can only get Direct, but want to keep the elegance of the Tivo. But for the rest of the folks, I suggest testing a Tivo HD for up to 30 days - something you can't do with Direct's dvr. You may be pleasantly surprised as I was - superior SD quality to Direct, lots of HD offerings, and a host of other features that Direct would not let us enjoy on the DTivos. You're upgrading your experience while staying with the best!!

If the test doesn't work out, at least when you lock yourself in for another 2 years, you'll know you gave it a try.

[magnus]

I agree. Also, if you live near the OTA towers like I do.... then get a Tivo HD and stop wasting your money on D*. You'll get a clearer picture than sat or cable for the digital channels.


This seems to be the only option for folks who can only get Direct, but want to keep the elegance of the Tivo. But for the rest of the folks, I suggest testing a Tivo HD for up to 30 days - something you can't do with Direct's dvr. You may be pleasantly surprised as I was - superior SD quality to Direct, lots of HD offerings, and a host of other features that Direct would not let us enjoy on the DTivos. You're upgrading your experience while staying with the best!!

If the test doesn't work out, at least when you lock yourself in for another 2 years, you'll know you gave it a try.