Heidi Bowl

[wmconlon]

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[gastrof]

You misunderstand how the TiVo works.

The times for programs are provided ahead of time by the stations and networks.

If a game runs over, they have no way of getting the message thru to the listings service (Tribune) and Tribune has no way of getting the message thru to TiVo, and TiVo has no way of getting the message thru to YOUR machine, on the fly.

You've learned an important lesson.

If you suspect there's ANY possible reason a show/game might run longer than the listings show, PAD YOUR RECORDING! (Adjust the settings so it'll record for a longer period than the actual listings would have it record. This involves setting it in "options" for a longer period, based on several options given.)

[fritolayguy]

Keep in mind that the TIVO guide is just that. A guide. The guide is populated with information provided to TIVO, not by TIVO. The listing in the guide for my TIVO says that the Superbowl would run for 3:30 as well.

The expectation that the TIVO would be so intuitive as to make assumptions based on past history is beyond the capability of the machine itself. I believe it was last year that the option to extend recording for live events was added as an option when setting a recording such events.

I know it's frustrating to miss part of something you really want to watch, but, take this as a learning (as most of us that have had the same thing happen....), and add time to live events from now on.

Just my 2c.

[wmconlon]

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[bostlaw]

I just had my Heidi Bowl (http://www.jimloy.com/sports/heidi.htm) experience. I used the web to schedule the Superbowl on my Tivo, because I knew I couldn't get back home in time.

And it was a pleasure to see it waiting for me when I arrived. I was glued to the tube for a very exciting game, until half-way through the fourth quarter the recording was over. In retrospect I suppose I should have instead manually programmed the channel, start and end times, but I naively assumed that someone at TiVo would be smart enough or competent enough, or just have enough common sense to know that live sports does not end on time. When has the SuperBowl ever been over in 3 hours and 30 minutes. When I asked for it to record the SuperBowl, that's what I meant. If I had wanted to record a particular channel for 3 hours and 30 minutes, I would have programmed that instead.

There is really a lot to like about the Tivo as a device, including the remote programming, etc. But I feel like I'm dealing with a Microsoft product -- something that is fully functional yet simultaneously grotesquely unsuited to meeting the most basic human requirements.

There is a reason that when you schedule a sports event on TiVo, the Tivo reminds you that it is a live event and asks if you want to add time to the recording...and this is the reason...it does require the exercise of some basic human common sense...

[wmconlon]

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[wmconlon]

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[Martin Tupper]

It's an option, but it's hardly a reminder on the web interface. See my screen capture for next week's Pro Bowl.You'd better pad that.

[rainwater]

I scheduled the game from TiVo Central Online and added 1 1/2 hours to it and it recorded just fine.

[m.s]

Your complaint should be with the broadcasters who provide inaccurate program info, not TiVo. Complain to Fox network.

[bostlaw]

It's an option, but it's hardly a reminder on the web interface. See my screen capture for next week's Pro Bowl.


The actual TiVo interface provides a reminder. In any event, you now know to pad sports events (and other live broadcasts)...I think you'll find that, with a little love, the machine will enhance your basic human need for TV viewing...:)

[ZeoTiVo]

Ahh, but they have plenty of ways of knowing, including heuristics -- ALL sports events have unpredictable lengths, so programming can automagically accomodate this by padding live events. This is especially the case for remote programming via the web interface, which could very easily add padding.

so why did your brain not think to add some padding on to the end of the recording? the option is plainly indicated on the record this program screen.

You thread does provide some insight into Murphy's law though. Used to be we would get 3 or 4 threads after the Super Bowl on "I set my TiVo to record the Super Bowl and it cut it off early"
now that they added the reminder to the TiVo interface those threads died down - but Mirphy will find a way to keep the glitches coming :p

[Jebberwocky!]

Your complaint should be with the broadcasters who provide inaccurate program info, not TiVo. Complain to Fox network.

complaint should be with the owner - at this point in time, not padding a sporting event?

I give anyone a pass the first time but after that, it's all on you baby!

[Uncle Briggs]

Are you blaming TiVo for your mistake?

[Martin Tupper]

PS. I didn't have to tell my TiVo to record the Superbowl at all. My "NFL Football" wishlist found it all by itself and added an hour of padding.

Wow what an ending!!!!

[squiddohio]

Padding a football game is always the thing to do because in case of overtime to break a tie game, the game will always run over the scheduled end time, and if you recorded it in the first place and the game went into overtime, you really, really want to watch the big finish. Same thing for golf playoffs.
I usually deal with sports overruns by (as last night) simply recording the post game show also, or by just recording whatever show follows the game on that channel. In addition, during football season I will look ahead to see what network shows on the football stations (fox or CBS on Sunday evening) are scheduled to be recorded, and I pad those to avoid just getting half a show. I usually just pad the season pass, then alter that setting after football season is over.
Now, finally, with the preliminaries out of the way, we can sit back and enjoy the big season finish: The Pro Bowl. -- don't forget to pad that!!!!

[ZeoTiVo]

PS. I didn't have to tell my TiVo to record the Superbowl at all. My "NFL Football" wishlist found it all by itself and added an hour of padding.

Wow what an ending!!!!

yah my wishlist had that as well. even recorded the new HOUSE for me :)
as to the ending...

and yep Eli Manning tearing himself away from a full on Blitz to have his receiver use everything including his helmet to make sure he pulled that pass in will be a classic sports moment for a very long time. The very definition of Heart and resiliency

[BobCamp1]

As far as automtically padding, some events aren't shown live and are edited so that they fit into the slot. They will never run long. No need for padding here, which might block you from recording another program.

What the OP is asking for is essentially VOD, and we are a long ways off from that happening with a live sporting event.

[ZeoTiVo]

Oh, now you've spolied the ending. Who won, anyway? :D.

good point - So I spolierized my post - now would you cut the quote from your post please :)

[bigray327]

The OP would also be complaining if it *did* automatically pad and recorded 42 minutes of House. He'd complain that it's wasteful. Some people just need to blame others for their own mistakes.

[squiddohio]

Besides, the "Heidi Bowl" was not a consumer problem -- that was a problem caused by a weekend network semi-executive who elected to leave a game in progress, which had a few minutes left on the clock, in order to start the TV Movie "Heidi" as scheduled.
No VCR, no TiVo, no padding could have corrected that problem, because the game was simply not on the air. Networks don't cut away from games in progress any more (almost hardly). Instead, they just push everything on the schedule back for that evening, sometimes as much as 45 to 60 minutes. Fortunately, we have TiVo's to record those shows and we can watch them whenever we want, but we do have to tweak the TiVo a bit in certain circumstances when, as with live football, there is a possibility that the scheduled times will not be adhered to.
Small price to pay.

[DrWho453]

Ok, here's a thought. Since Tivo has gotten good at putting tags in that allow ads to do things such as bringing up the thumbs up logo, why not have a tag inserted that the TV networks could use that would tell tivo that the show is going to go longer and to pad the show 30 mins to an hour longer. It could even bring up a screen saying that the show is going to go longer and give you an option to pad or not pad the show with the default set to padding. They could put an option the settings menu that you could tell it what to do if a recording is going to conflict with the padding.

The networks could have the system setup so that the computers automatically add the tag if after x amount of time it is determined that they will be going over. Not sure how much programing would be required to do this but it could be done I would think. Of course if it requires a major re-write to do it, then they would probably not do this.

Anyway just a thought.

[ZeoTiVo]

Besides, the "Heidi Bowl" was not a consumer problem -- that was a problem caused by a weekend network semi-executive who elected to leave a game in progress, which had a few minutes left on the clock, in order to start the TV Movie "Heidi" as scheduled.

WTF - some cable company cut away from THE SUPER BOWL :eek: with the price for the commercials?? I can not believe that

[CharlesH]

I suspect that there is some reason, probably relating to advertising billing rates, that sporting events such as NFL ALWAYS run over. Same reason they do that 1:01 scheduling, so commercials between programs are charged at the higher rate associated with a particular more popular program.

[janry]

R T F M!

[DrWho453]

WTF - some cable company cut away from THE SUPER BOWL :eek: and this Super Bowl in particular?? I can not believe that

Yea, that was the first year they ran it on TV and they learned the hard way not to do that again. Of course since I am not a big football fan, it wouldn't bother me but I know I am a little fish in a big pond of football lovers. :rolleyes:

[janry]

No, no, no. The Heidi game was not the super bowl, and I don't think it was even a play-off game. Just a regular season game that became famous becase the team behind by 3 points with a little more than a minute left, scored 14 points and won. But, the TV audience didn't see it because NBC cut away from the game to show Heidi. Their phone banks were overwhelmed after they announced the final score during Heidi. I was POed also.

[WhiskeyTango]

Ok, here's a thought. Since Tivo has gotten good at putting tags in that allow ads to do things such as bringing up the thumbs up logo, why not have a tag inserted that the TV networks could use that would tell tivo that the show is going to go longer and to pad the show 30 mins to an hour longer. It could even bring up a screen saying that the show is going to go longer and give you an option to pad or not pad the show with the default set to padding. They could put an option the settings menu that you could tell it what to do if a recording is going to conflict with the padding.

The networks could have the system setup so that the computers automatically add the tag if after x amount of time it is determined that they will be going over. Not sure how much programing would be required to do this but it could be done I would think. Of course if it requires a major re-write to do it, then they would probably not do this.

Anyway just a thought.

I don't see this happening anytime soon because there is no benefit to the networks for them to do this.

[wmconlon]

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[janry]

The next thing you know, someone will come along and complain because TiVo didn't have enough sense to pad the program that came on after the football game. After all, doesn't TiVo realize the football game on before that program would run late?

[TolloNodre]

So you want Tivo to hire 100s of people to watch live sporting events and send signals to all the boxes when they run past the scheduled time?

I think Tivo is expensive enough as it is!

[DrWho453]

The next thing you know, someone will come along and complain because TiVo didn't have enough sense to pad the program that came on after the football game. After all, doesn't TiVo realize the football game on before that program would run late?

I expect my Tivo to be psychic and to always know the exact time a show is going to come on and how long it will run and to correct for any issues that may extend the recording or prevent the recording from starting on time. :D

[Langree]

so TiVo is dropping the ball because you aren't cognizant enough to buffer the stop time? I went in and added an hour to the recording time. I would have more issue if TiVo tried to add to my record time on it's own.

You missing the end of the game is your fault. Whether it prompts you or not, you knew you were recording a live event but didnt think to add to the stop time.

[DrWho453]

So you want Tivo to hire 100s of people to watch live sporting events and send signals to all the boxes when they run past the scheduled time?

I think Tivo is expensive enough as it is!

No what I was saying was they would have their computers set up so that when it recognizes that there is still time on the clock like say 2 minutes and the internal clock shows that it is 1 minute to the end of the alloted time, it would broadcast a tag over the airwaves that would cause Tivo to pad the recording time. I don't expect them to do this and I am not holding my breath for them to do this but it is something to think about.

[Martin Tupper]

As everyone on this forum has clearly pointed out, it is well known that football games should be "padded".

So why then, would it not have occurred to someone at Tivo to automatically pad such recordings?

Doing what the user expects, versus what the user tells a machine to do is admittedly a difference in design philosophy. But it's also the difference between an iPod and a Zune.

And as I've pointed out, the web interface does not offer reminders. And special events of broad interest should be the kinds of things that merit some attention from TiVo corporate.

So call me stupid for expecting TiVo (I mean the entire ecosystem -- management, marketing, engineering as well as the box) to have some common sense. But as has been pointed out, this (failure to record the complete event) has been a recurring complaint.

All I'm saying is that TiVo is dropping the ball, since there are any number of ways to address the issue that go beyond telling the customer he's stupid.But TiVo would never tell a customer that. They will let them figure that out on their own.

I wouldn't want the TiVo to automatically pad football games. For one thing, it would affect the availability of the tuner for other recordings. During the regular season, both college and professional football are shown back to back on the same channel. I always pad the last game, but not so the first game. If TiVo padded all football games, then it would pad the first game on tuner #1, then when the second game was scheduled to start, it would tune tuner #2 to the same channel. Both tuners would be busy recording the same channel for the duration on the "padding".

Also, the "appropriate" amount of padding may differ from viewer to viewer. Someone with a 1TB hard drive recording in standard definition may want to pad 3 hours to be absolutely certain they get the game, the overtime, and the postgame show. Someone else with a stock hard drive recording in HD may only want to pad 30 minutes because they don't want to use that much recording space.

And with all of the pre-game hoo-haa, half-time extravaganzas, and additional TV time-outs (commercials), SuperBowls run longer that your average football game. Is TiVo supposed to factor that in to account as well?

And if TiVo did automatically pad an hour, what kind of hell would they catch if/when the game went in to double overtime and their settings caused you to miss the end?

It's a simple rule. Pad live sporting events.

[janry]

I expect my Tivo to be psychic ...

Then, we shouldn't even need to tell TiVo what we want it to record....:)


I wanted TiVo to have recorded the Super Bowl a day early because I wanted to watch it Saturday night, not Sunday.

I promise, I would not have placed any wagers afterwards.

[Stephen Tu]

The Tivo UI currently offers a fairly blatant warning that padding is probably necessary, and makes it easy to add. (This feature is a relatively recent addition). I don't think it's reasonable to automatically pad. Automatic pads run into problems when games are back to back with either another game or with other programs that a person may prefer to record in their entirety as opposed to a game that maybe they don't care so much about.

It's reasonable to complain that the website for should offer the same type of reminder in bigger letters so people don't forget it.

I also don't see why anyone would automatically assume that the recording time would automatically be correct for sports. No other recording device, whether VCR or DVR, auto-pads, and from setting VCRs to record sports events I've always known that network schedules are unrealistic. Why did you assume Tivo would handle this right when no other recorder you've used handles this? I thought it was obvious to pad from when I first got the Tivo, I didn't need any "Heidi" moments to teach me, since I had always padded on VCRs. I guess you got sucked in by Tivo being more clever in other respects, but it's rather presumptuous to think that Tivo is going to be as smart as a human.

[dstoffa]

No, no, no. The Heidi game was not the super bowl, and I don't think it was even a play-off game. Just a regular season game that became famous becase the team behind by 3 points with a little more than a minute left, scored 14 points and won. But, the TV audience didn't see it because NBC cut away from the game to show Heidi. Their phone banks were overwhelmed after they announced the final score during Heidi. I was POed also.

It was a 1968 regular season game between the Jets and the Raiders, played out in Oakland. It changed the way sports would be broadcast in this country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Game

[jayfest]

If I understand the situation correctly, in theory Fox COULD have notified the Tribune schedule people that the show might run over. But even if the Tribune schedule was corrected in real time, isn't it also a matter of how often your TiVo checks those listings? I know that on occasion, the President schedules a press conference in prime time and I remember one time the TiVo catching the change and correcting the recording schedule for it, while my Comcast DVR was unable to catch it in time (although the CDVR had caught other previous schedule changes that were made with more advance time). My conclusion was that the TiVo checks more often than the CDVR. But does anybody have (official TiVo and/or actual empirical data) information on exactly how often the TiVo does check the schedule with a broadband connection?

[ZeoTiVo]

So why then, would it not have occurred to someone at Tivo to automatically pad such recordings?
TiVo inc. nor any of its respresentatives did NOT direct any comments to you. Users of this forum did.

and mainly we asked "Since you have shown in many ways, it is obvious you should pad a live sporst events; why in the world did you not pad your own recording when the ability too pad was clearly marked on the web page?"

[WhiskeyTango]

If I understand the situation correctly, in theory Fox COULD have notified the Tribune schedule people that the show might run over. But even if the Tribune schedule was corrected in real time, isn't it also a matter of how often your TiVo checks those listings? I know that on occasion, the President schedules a press conference in prime time and I remember one time the TiVo catching the change and correcting the recording schedule for it, while my Comcast DVR was unable to catch it in time (although the CDVR had caught other previous schedule changes that were made with more advance time). My conclusion was that the TiVo checks more often than the CDVR. But does anybody have (official TiVo and/or actual empirical data) information on exactly how often the TiVo does check the schedule with a broadband connection?

I think with broadband Tivo checks in every 15 minutes, I think.

[WhiskeyTango]

Just to add one more aspect to the ridiculousness of automatic padding. Although most sports rarely end exactly when they are supposed to, some like hockey usually don't go over the 2.5 hours of scheduled time except for when games go to OT/SO or if there are other extenuating circumstances (lots of penalties, lots of goals, etc.). I always pad a half hour just to be safe. Having Tivo automatically record an extra hour on every hockey game I watch would be a waste of time and space on the Tivo. As others have said, the option to pad is clearly there and you f'ed up...your fault, not the Tivo's. The functionality is there, learn to use it.

[wmconlon]

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[allan]

The next thing you know, someone will come along and complain because TiVo didn't have enough sense to pad the program that came on after the football game. After all, doesn't TiVo realize the football game on before that program would run late?

Now that you mention it.. ;) :D

[pdhenry]

1. This is a known problem, and it is reasonable to expect that Tivo would have addressed it.TiVo has addressed it, actually.

When you schedule a recording of a live event via the TiVo UI, it reminds you that live events can run over and suggests that you should consider padding the event.

It would be reasonable for the web-based sceduling UI to offer the same suggestion. I don't know why TiVo doesn't do this - maybe they would if enough users requested it. Note that there are two slightly different interfaces for web-based scheduling- One via TiVo.com and the other via Yahoo TV. I think that both should be updated with auto-suggestion of padding for live events.

I think the capability you've requested is a pretty big change to the way TiVo works - Broadband TiVos report in every 15 minutes but even this isn't often enough to be foolproof. TiVos that dial in would be left behind. The latency inherent in disseminating the data from the broadcaster (if they could be relied on) through the programming data supplier that TiVo uses and to your box is going to be too large for it to work.

Pad those recordings!

[pdhenry]

PS: I can see that you're not a fan of The Amazing Race...

[Martin Tupper]

1. This is a known problem, and it is reasonable to expect that Tivo would have addressed it. I have already provided 3 means for addressing the problem (heuristic, in-band, out-of-band); it is not beyond the ability of TiVo to address this.

Heuristic: as has already been discussed, having the TiVo automatically pad all football games is problematic
In-band: Relying on your local broadcaster and/or cable provider to reliably send a proper program identifier leaves you at the mercy of another party. To whom do you complain when they don't flip the correct switch and your show doesn't start/stop recording on time?
Out-of Band: Would require all TiVo's to receive a signal over the internet. Forgetting for a moment that not all TiVo's are connected to the internet, NONE of them are set up to receive a signal over the internet. Your TiVo always initiates contact with the mother ship. Never the other way around. A networked TiVo would have to connect once a minute to make sure it received "current" data.
That assumes that such a signal could be created for every channel in every market that TiVo serves, in real time. How do they do that again? How much would that service cost?
And finally, if there aren't any firm start and stop times, how does your TiVo know whether a tuner will be available to record other programs in your ToDo list? When/how does TiVo warn you that another show won't be recorded because a sporting event is running long? Don't you think that that might cause a few issues itself?


2. Using the web interface, for the first time, I asked to record the Super Bowl, Not channel 2-1 beginning at 3pm PDT for 5 hours. The ability to pad was NOT clearly marked, but as shown in the screen cap I earlier attached, is merely an option; nor is there a "reminder' to pad events.What part of the "Confirm Recording Options" & "Stop: On Time" shown on your screen cap eluded you?

3. It was my [misplaced] expectation that TiVo would have a mechanism in place to meet my request. As I have stated the 'request' was for a recording of a particular event, not merely tuning to a station and streaming bits to the drive. The ability to satisfy a user's innate need is IMHO the mark of a superior technology.Actually, you requested a "scheduled" event. If you wanted to record more than the scheduled event, that mechanism was made available to you. I'll bet that next time you avail yourself of those options.

Having heard friends rave about TiVo for years, I was looking forward to the "unexpected delights" to be experienced with it. I merely lament that TiVo is a rudimentary technology product; it is merely a DVR. Nothing wrong with that, but there's nothing special about TiVo. That's why I would love to see Steve Jobs add a tuner to AppleTV, then we could have a device focused on user experience instead of only functionality.Competition is great. But Apple hasn't incorporated a tuner, have they. Style without functionality is called an iBrick. But even if Apple had did add a tuner or two, as a user you would gain the most enjoyment out of that unit by learning the basics of how it works...just like with TiVo. So please...with sugar on top...RTFM.

[ZeoTiVo]

All I'm saying is that TiVo is dropping the ball, since there are any number of ways to address the issue that go beyond telling the customer he's stupid.

I never implied otherwise, though the extraordinary defensiveness of many posters certainly belies a proprietary point of view. Perhaps I'm merely pointing out the emporer's new clothers.


I was just making sure you understaood that this was not an official TiVo inc. website.

You knew it was a live event
You knew the live event cou;ld very well run past its scheduled time
you knew there were options and that one was Stop.on Time
Your recording of the Superbowl ended before the game was done
Most of the folks replying here had recorded the entirety of a great game

who is the one not wearing clothes here?

[wmconlon]

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[Stephen Tu]

There are options in the program in both the to-do list & the now playing program description to extend a recording that's in progress. You never looked?

Getting signals from the programming is conceivable (and even been tried in other countries, search for "programme delivery control" on web) but would require lots of cooperation from the broadcasters. And what if the broadcaster screws up & you were depending on it, and it still cuts off early, or doesn't cut off & either kills subsequent recordings or chews up too much space deleting your old programs? Frankly I like the current setup where the user controls exactly what happens.

I think at most you have a valid complaint about updating the web site scheduling to have bigger warnings for live events as a reminder. I think your initial expectations were unreasonable.

[ZeoTiVo]

So how should I have gone about making sure that TiVo would continue to record what I wanted? I know there were issues with losing recordings in progress if you switch channels. So to me, it just reinforces that TiVo uses the wrong metaphor (for me) -- I want a program recorder, not merely a scheduler.

You would hit TiVo button twice, which does not stop the recording but put you in now playing. Scroll to the entry for the recording in progress - select it and chnage recording attributes to end recording 30 minutes or whatever after scheduled stop time - then return to the show and finish watching it.
TiVo will give you a resume playing option so you pick up where you left off in the recording.

What you want is a technical device that you do not have to read the simple operating instructions on. For that buy the Super Bowl show on iTunes to play on your Apple TV.

You also are only focused on your broadcaster in your area. You need to realize that there are multiple broadcasters who work in multiple regions. All your schemes would need to be worked out with all those multiple entities while also having a process to deal with these entities as they change. Or TiVo could include a simple, well marked feature to add extra minutes onto a recording and document this feature into a well laid out, easy to follow included document called a manual.

[wmconlon]

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[steve614]

I expect my Tivo to be psychic and to always know the exact time a show is going to come on and how long it will run and to correct for any issues that may extend the recording or prevent the recording from starting on time. :D

:eek: It doesn't do this already?!!

;):D

[jkalnin]

I want Tivo to do my laundry, cook me dinner, and tuck me in bed at night. No wait, that's what I want my wife to do. I just expect my Tivo to do what I tell it to do. No wait, that my wife again.

Seriously though, you messed up and paid for it, and I am sure next time you'll remember to pad a live sports event. Some people just have to learn their lessons the hard way.

[ZeoTiVo]

Not quite. I want a program recorder, as opposed to a recorder that I program.

But that's enough. I hear that everyone on this forum thinks that we live in the best of all possible worlds. I'll tilt at my windmills (sorry for mixing literary references) elsewhere.

BTW - you're welcome for the tip on how to easily extend a recording in progress you are already watching.

[BlackBetty]

hey OP WTF is up with you deleting the text of all your posts in this thread? Very mature I see.

[pdhenry]

Ah, we were riding his ass pretty hard (although he was asking for it a bit).

[bostlaw]

BTW - you're welcome for the tip on how to easily extend a recording in progress you are already watching.

Hmmm...I didn't know that myself...very helpful...I love me some TiVo...

[Langree]

hey OP WTF is up with you deleting the text of all your posts in this thread? Very mature I see.

Ah, we were riding his ass pretty hard (although he was asking for it a bit).

How very mature of him.

[Mars]

For those who missed the Heidi Bowl in 1968, here is a clip showing how it happened up on You Tube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YdwtUmof4c) This would be an example of life before TiVo, no padding needed here.

[Langree]

No, but a lot of TV's were shattered by flying beer bottles. :p

[ZeoTiVo]

hey OP WTF is up with you deleting the text of all your posts in this thread? Very mature I see.

eh, he just wanted to come on here and push his opinion around. His blog is even worse and he even replies to his own entries, when no one else has. :rolleyes: The final irony is the name of his blog "Knowledge and Thoroughness" :p

[MikeMar]

It's funny how most of his posts are already quoted anyways :D

[Jebberwocky!]

if you take all the replacement posts and combine them together you get:

*^%#?\!@ (you)

[GoHokies!]

His blog

Thanks for pointing that out - I foresee hours of entertainment in my future. ;)

Deleting posts is just bad form, but I guess some people just want a place to vent and not seek help. At least he came back and talked for a while, unlike the single post ranting topic starters.

[jkalnin]

I can't find the link to his blog, he must have deleted that from his profile as well.

Remember people, if you ask a silly question then stick to your guns ranting about it over and over, you can always go back and delete everything like a total newbie dork.

[Langree]

Sometimes I think some people are totally stunned when everyone here doesn't see things the same way they do.

Anybody got a linky to the blog?

[SteveGoTex]

Here ya go


http://www.wmconlon.com/index.php

[ZeoTiVo]

Here ya go


http://www.wmconlon.com/index.php

well since someone linked to it
- here is the entry of most interest to this forum
http://www.wmconlon.com/index.php/?p=54

[Langree]

well since someone linked to it
- here is the entry of most interest to this forum
http://www.wmconlon.com/index.php/?p=54

Ya, he reminds me of someone else around here.

[SteveGoTex]

You're welcome :)

[BiloxiGeek]

The next thing you know, someone will come along and complain because TiVo didn't have enough sense to pad the program that came on after the football game. After all, doesn't TiVo realize the football game on before that program would run late?

I almost would complain about that, since I do regularly enjoy House. But I've been a Tivo user long enough to know that the box of silicon and copper is good at what it does, but my brain is a hell of a lot smarter. So I watched House live instead to preclude any problems of the football game futzing up the schedule.

[squiddohio]

You watched a show LIVE???
Did you sit through the commercials?
House isn't that good, is it?

[Jebberwocky!]

not sure if the commercials were worth it - I skipped them ;)