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BlackBetty
01-22-2008, 08:41 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2008-01-21-comcast-tivo_N.htm

NEW YORK — TiVo aims to make life easy for its digital video recorder customers. But its journey to this potentially pivotal week was extraordinarily difficult.
After three years of painstaking work, Comcast, (CMCSA) the nation's largest cable provider, Tuesday will begin marketing TiVo's (TIVO) interface as a premium software upgrade for DVR customers in the Boston area.


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The significance of the offering reaches far beyond Beantown.

For Comcast, it's a test of a technology — called Tru2way — that enables TVs, DVRs and other consumer electronics to handle its interactive services, including video on demand. Those services currently can be accessed only with Comcast-provided gear and software.

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TiVo is "the first application running on our network that comports with the Tru2way platform," says Kevin Casey, who's president of Comcast's NorthCentral Division.

Meanwhile, TiVo wants the partnership with Comcast, which runs at least until 2014, to be a model for other cable deals that offer access to millions of new customers.

TiVo serves 4.1 million DVRs and has lost hundreds of thousands of subscribers since 2005, when DirecTV (DTV) stopped marketing TiVo in favor of a home-grown DVR.

"Being able to port (TiVo) software into somebody else's box opens up a way to begin total integration of cable services into TiVo," CEO Tom Rogers says. "A lot of elements make it quite important."

The companies say they initially didn't appreciate how complicated it would be to develop software to offer TiVo's features on Comcast's DVRs and operating system.

"It ended up to be rocket science," Rogers says.

TiVo's most popular features include its ability to track and capture all episodes of favorite shows with a Season Pass and sophisticated search capabilities that find and record programs using a Wish List.

Their press release in March 2005 said that they expected the TiVo service to be available "in a majority of Comcast markets in mid-to-late 2006."

Having blown that deadline, neither will say when Comcast will offer TiVo to most of its customers.

"We expect to begin to make it available in additional markets later this year," Comcast spokeswoman Jenni Moyer says.

Comcast can provide TiVo to its systems using Motorola (MOT) DVRs. TiVo recently began work on software for other areas that use boxes from Scientific Atlanta (CSCO).

Also dropped is the original promise for Comcast to "showcase TiVo's home networking, multimedia and broadband capabilities."

Unlike stand-alone TiVos, Comcast's version doesn't allow TV watchers to access music and photos on the home PC, watch Web videos or transfer recorded shows to other rooms, PCs or mobile players.

But Comcast's service has some unique features.

Users can continue watching a show when they check the programming schedule or plan other recordings. The sound stays and the video appears in a window in a corner of the screen.

In addition, program searches in Comcast's TiVo include the cable company's growing array of video-on-demand movies and shows.

The companies say they have a road map for enhancements, which they decline to discuss.

Meanwhile, they're still squashing bugs, including one that, in some cases, causes a noticeable delay when flipping between channels or TiVo screens.

"Some of these are bugs that were known and were deemed to be reasonable to get the product out there," TiVo general manager Jeff Klugman says. "We have several additional releases of software that are planned over the next several weeks and months to address those issues."

Comcast will try to minimize potential problems, at least at first, by requiring those who want its TiVo service to schedule an hour-long service call.

"What we want to avoid is that the customer doesn't understand how to use this," Casey says. "This is a brand-new product for us, and we want to make sure we roll this thing out in a high-quality, high-touch way."

Customers who have a problem will call Comcast for help — with TiVo personnel available, if needed.

It may be difficult for outsiders to assess public reception to the new service. Rogers says he probably won't disclose the number of Comcast TiVo customers. He likely will report a single number that includes his remaining subscribers from DirecTV.

SeattleBrad
01-22-2008, 10:19 AM
I just wanted to say congrats to Tivo and Comcast. It's been a long journey fraught with frustration, but they stuck with it and reached the goal. Way to go!

peteypete
01-22-2008, 12:53 PM
So I take it maybe truck roll is no longer necessary?

Bill Ball
01-22-2008, 01:15 PM
So I take it maybe truck roll is no longer necessary?Apparently some have gotten it w/o a roll, but it is supposed to include one for the time being.

miricle
01-22-2008, 01:22 PM
So I take it maybe truck roll is no longer necessary?

I got my truck roll yesterday, and got a clueless tech who wasn't trained (see my previous posts here), which made the truck roll a bad thing... at least Comcast decided to not charge me for the appointment.

fallingwater
01-22-2008, 01:26 PM
http://www.engadgethd.com/tag/tv%20guide/

ah30k
01-22-2008, 02:33 PM
This is not a Tru2Way (ie OCAP) application but a TiVo app written on top of the Moto stack. Why is it being called Tru2Way?

ZeoTiVo
01-22-2008, 02:53 PM
This is not a Tru2Way (ie OCAP) application but a TiVo app written on top of the Moto stack. Why is it being called Tru2Way?
because it is close enough (it is Java and can run in OCAP) and the idea is to sell tru2way to the industry. Doing so with a 3rd party DVR maker shows the FCC that the industry is working things out itelf and need no more FCC rules or regulations ;)

burnsy
01-23-2008, 12:05 AM
Users can continue watching a show when they check the programming schedule or plan other recordings.

Nice job TiVo! Its 2008 and your DVR finally does something every other DVR has always done.

BlackBetty
01-23-2008, 07:46 AM
Nice job TiVo! Its 2008 and your DVR finally does something every other DVR has always done.

whats your points? are you looking for a bathroom and came across this thread?

miricle
01-23-2008, 08:39 AM
Nice job TiVo! Its 2008 and your DVR finally does something every other DVR has always done.

Is there a way to disable this? I have not yet seen one. While this is ok in some cases, I don't necessarily want to see live TV in the corner if I'm watching a sports event or something time-shifted...

Curtis
01-23-2008, 09:41 AM
Is there a way to disable this? I have not yet seen one. While this is ok in some cases, I don't necessarily want to see live TV in the corner if I'm watching a sports event or something time-shifted...

pause

BlackBetty
01-23-2008, 01:12 PM
The article mentions that Comcast is going to start promoting TiVo. Anyone see any print ads, radio, or TV?

This will be the big sign on just how serious Comcast is about offering TiVo.

bmclark
01-24-2008, 01:19 AM
The truck roll is probably necessary because Comcast with TiVo comes with a classic TiVo remote with added comcast function buttons like onDemand and A-B-C-D buttons... everything else is authentic TiVo buttons... very cool.

I just got my Comcast DVR with TiVo today. I did not have a Comcast DVR previously, but have been a series 2 tivo user for nearly 8 years.

Eric90gt
01-24-2008, 09:10 AM
The truck roll is probably necessary because Comcast with TiVo comes with a classic TiVo remote with added comcast function buttons like onDemand and A-B-C-D buttons... everything else is authentic TiVo buttons... very cool.

I just got my Comcast DVR with TiVo today. I did not have a Comcast DVR previously, but have been a series 2 tivo user for nearly 8 years.

The truck roll is necessary, because the tivo software essentially turns the box into a fully functional DOCSIS enabled modem and must be within certain parameters for transmit and receive signal levels to properly function. If these levels are not met, it could cause the download to essentally "brick" the box rendering your DVR useless until a truck can be rolled to swap it and reconfigure your splitters, etc. to get the signal where it needs to be.

oh yeah..... and the remote thing;)

miricle
01-24-2008, 09:17 PM
The truck roll is probably necessary because Comcast with TiVo comes with a classic TiVo remote with added comcast function buttons like onDemand and A-B-C-D buttons... everything else is authentic TiVo buttons... very cool.

I just got my Comcast DVR with TiVo today. I did not have a Comcast DVR previously, but have been a series 2 tivo user for nearly 8 years.

Unless, of course, you have a clueless installer who thinks that they are mailing remotes because they don't have them in stock :(.