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rvanderwerf
12-09-2007, 06:32 PM
Hi just replaced my Toshiba S2 H-400 with a HD-Tivo, and now the MRV between the two is sooo much slower. I have a wired gigabit network with another regular series 2. When I try to transfer shows it seems to take 3 times slower than playback time. I'm using the same network cable any everything from my older Toshiba S2 which transferred more than fast enough for real-time playback.

Am I doing something wrong on the new HD tivo? could it be transfers from S2 boxes are slower than a S2->S2? Or is my new HD tivo defective?

Ryan

bkdtv
12-09-2007, 06:44 PM
As noted in the MRV FAQ stickied at the top of the forum, the recordings on some Series2 Tivos are not stored in a compatible format. Hence, on-the-fly format conversion (transcoding) is required. This conversion slows your Series2 transfer.

TivoHD -> TivoHD and TivoHD -> Series3 transfers are significantly faster than Series2 -> Series2 transfers. But as indicated above, some Series2 units transfer to HD TiVos at a lower rate. You might try recording at best quality with the Series2 and see if those recordings transfer any faster.

AbMagFab
12-09-2007, 06:53 PM
For what it's worth, TivoHD MRV is significantly slower overall than S3. It runs at about half the speed of a S3 in all situations.

Hopefully this will get fixed in some future release, but for now it makes MRV on the TivoHD for HD shows kind of useless, as it's just slower than real-time (where the S3 is about 1.5x real time). This is with higher bitrate HD (like on FIOS), not the compressed junk on some cable systems.

rvanderwerf
12-09-2007, 08:57 PM
As noted in the MRV FAQ stickied at the top of the forum, the recordings on some Series2 Tivos are not stored in a compatible format. Hence, on-the-fly format conversion (transcoding) is required. This conversion slows your Series2 transfer.

TivoHD -> TivoHD and TivoHD -> Series3 transfers are significantly faster than Series2 -> Series2 transfers. But as indicated above, some Series2 units transfer to HD TiVos at a lower rate. You might try recording at best quality with the Series2 and see if those recordings transfer any faster.

You mean series2 -> series 3 is slower? Series 2 to Series 2 seemed to transfer just fine.

Thanks, I'll try adjusting the quality on my season passes on old tivo. If that doesn't do the trick, I may just return the hd-Tivo and go back to my old setup, or maybe try a Series 3, if you think that would help (maybe it wouldn't?).

AbMagFab
12-09-2007, 09:08 PM
You mean series2 -> series 3 is slower? Series 2 to Series 2 seemed to transfer just fine.

Thanks, I'll try adjusting the quality on my season passes on old tivo. If that doesn't do the trick, I may just return the hd-Tivo and go back to my old setup, or maybe try a Series 3, if you think that would help (maybe it wouldn't?).

S3 would help some, as it MRV's about 50% faster for everything.

But, the main problem is that the S2->S3/THD transfers need to be transcoded. So it's going to be slower than you'd expect.

That being said, my MRV from S2 to S3 for an hour show takes about 10-15 minutes (for a 2GB S2 show). On the THD (I haven't tested it), but it shouldn't be taking much longer than 25-30 minutes for the same show. Are you seeing worse than that?

rvanderwerf
12-09-2007, 11:10 PM
S3 would help some, as it MRV's about 50% faster for everything.

But, the main problem is that the S2->S3/THD transfers need to be transcoded. So it's going to be slower than you'd expect.

That being said, my MRV from S2 to S3 for an hour show takes about 10-15 minutes (for a 2GB S2 show). On the THD (I haven't tested it), but it shouldn't be taking much longer than 25-30 minutes for the same show. Are you seeing worse than that?

yeah, a half hour show is taking over an hour. My wife transfers a lot of shows so it's a bit of a deal breaker for me.

h00ligan
03-12-2008, 09:32 PM
Does anyone know if there's been any progress? I am getting pretty bad speeds, which at first I thought was a network issue, but now I am seeing (thanks for the mrv faq) that TivoHD mrv just sucks as far as speed goes.

TexasGrillChef
03-12-2008, 09:41 PM
Does anyone know if there's been any progress? I am getting pretty bad speeds, which at first I thought was a network issue, but now I am seeing (thanks for the mrv faq) that TivoHD mrv just sucks as far as speed goes.

Exactly.... TiVo is working on resolving this issue & speeding it up. Nothing yet though.

I have learned to think ahead.

TGC

h00ligan
03-12-2008, 10:52 PM
well next time think ahead far enough to call me, someone you don't know, to save me some time eh? :D