Doctor Who: Time Crash [Text View]

LoadStar

11-16-2007, 10:30 PM

Can we even talk about this here, since it won't air here in the US? :)

(For those not familiar: Children in Need is a yearly BBC telethon to raise money for children's charities in the UK. "Time Crash" is a 7 minute segment within the telethon, a mini-episode of Doctor Who. The events are set between the end of Series 3 and this year's Christmas Special. If you'd like to see it, it's on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn_NDKNlUa8)... for now, at least)

All I have to say is - it's way too short. Very good, but short.

Chock full of good lines... if I started quoting them all, I'd end up posting a transcript of the whole episode. :)

jeremy3721

11-16-2007, 10:41 PM

That's funny. It just aired here in Florida :)

LoadStar

11-16-2007, 10:55 PM

That's funny. It just aired here in Florida :)
Can you clarify?

jeremy3721

11-16-2007, 11:02 PM

Can you clarify?

Sorrry, that was just my pathetic attempt at sarcastic humor.:rolleyes:

spikedavis

11-17-2007, 12:58 AM

Hey that was great! Thanks for the YouTube link. I hate having to wait for it to air here.

Very touching too. "You were my Doctor."

busyba

11-17-2007, 02:54 PM

"No, no beard this time. Well... a wife." :D

Minor nit, why would 5 know about LInDA?

dianebrat

11-17-2007, 03:43 PM

Very touching too. "You were my Doctor."

agreed, and I like a show that respects it's heritage, a great 10 minutes, and for a great cause.

I'm glad this thread pointed me to it, since I doubt we'll ever see it officially in the US.

Diane

busyba

11-17-2007, 03:56 PM

Instead of 'Time Crash' they should have called it 'Five and Dime'. :D

LoadStar

11-17-2007, 04:44 PM

"No, no beard this time. Well... a wife." :D

Minor nit, why would 5 know about LInDA?

Who says that we saw every trip that 5 went on? Perhaps on one (or more) that we didn't see he wandered into "current time" and encountered LInDA.

Or, it could just be a side effect of the "wibbly wobbly, timey-wimey" that caused 5 to look old. :)

justen_m

11-17-2007, 04:54 PM

Thanks for posting the youtube link, too! I laughed out loud, even though I've only seen the three US-SciFi-aired seasons. As a scifi geek, I feel remiss not having seen any past seasons. Are there any in particular that are worth watching? I don't feel like plunking down $700+ for the ultimate boxed set they have on amazon. ;-)

TonyD79

11-17-2007, 04:58 PM

"No, no beard this time. Well... a wife." :D

Gosh. That means the Master is a "Friend of Dumbledore?"

TonyD79

11-17-2007, 04:59 PM

kmcorbett

11-17-2007, 08:59 PM

Did the moderators remove the URL for the YouTube video from this thread?

LoadStar

11-17-2007, 09:03 PM

Did the moderators remove the URL for the YouTube video from this thread?

Nope, take a look at my first post. Click the words YouTube.

atrac

11-17-2007, 09:35 PM

Wow! Brilliant! Thanks for posting! I didn't even know it existed!

jeremy3721

11-17-2007, 10:02 PM

Gosh. That means the Master is a "Friend of Dumbledore?"

I guess I'm stupid. Can someone please explain this "joke" to me. How does this indicate the Master is gay?

Hopefully the Linda reference will open a door for Davison to do a full episode in the future to explain why he knows about it. I think he was fantastic and would be great for one of the Doctor Light episodes they usually throw in each year (ie Blink)

Some of my favorite episodes are "Girl in the Fireplace" "Blink" and "Utopia"

busyba

11-17-2007, 10:06 PM

I guess I'm stupid. Can someone please explain this "joke" to me. How does this indicate the Master is gay?

"No, no beard... well, a wife".

"Beard" is a slang term for a person that a closeted gay person uses in order to pretend to be straight in public. So the joke is that the Master did in fact have a beard; his wife was his beard.

I'm sure that they aren't really going down the "Master is gay" road, Moffat just probably couldn't resist the play on words.

LoadStar

11-17-2007, 10:07 PM

I guess I'm stupid. Can someone please explain this "joke" to me. How does this indicate the Master is gay?
One definition of "beard" is "a person who diverts suspicion from someone (especially a woman who accompanies a male homosexual in order to conceal his homosexuality)"

busyba

11-17-2007, 10:14 PM

I'm just glad Moffat remembered he was writing a Doctor Who scene and not a Torchwood scene, otherwise he probably would have had 5 and 10 making out with each other! :eek: :)

TonyD79

11-17-2007, 10:54 PM

"No, no beard... well, a wife".

"Beard" is a slang term for a person that a closeted gay person uses in order to pretend to be straight in public. So the joke is that the Master did in fact have a beard; his wife was his beard.

I'm sure that they aren't really going down the "Master is gay" road, Moffat just probably couldn't resist the play on words.

I agree. It is just a Moffatt style joke.

But Timelords may be asexual. The only real time the Doctor showed a true romantic interest (no, Rose doesn't count...nothing said romance...he could pin that way for a sister) in anyone was when he turned human.

There is a book that supposedly tells something of the Doctor's origins (although things in the new series contradict some of it) and in the book (forgot the name....), Timelords are created via a mechanism rather than via sexual reproduction. Of course, the book is not canon but it fits.

TonyD79

11-17-2007, 10:58 PM

Hopefully the Linda reference will open a door for Davison to do a full episode in the future to explain why he knows about it.

Kind of doubt it. The Children in Need snippets are more sketches than story. They tend to include breaking the third wall ("Doctor, you were my doctor" is a reference to everyone having a first Doctor from when they started watching the show) and doing impossible things.

They sneak them into the time between the end of the previous series and the start of the new one but you see no reference to them in the real shows (and you even see the end scenes melt into the start scenes without the Children in Need scene in the real shows, so they don't really exist).

Anyway, major continuity error in showing an "old" Davison. The Doctor regenerated before he got old.

jeremy3721

11-17-2007, 11:11 PM

Kind of doubt it. The Children in Need snippets are more sketches than story. They tend to include breaking the third wall ("Doctor, you were my doctor" is a reference to everyone having a first Doctor from when they started watching the show) and doing impossible things.

They sneak them into the time between the end of the previous series and the start of the new one but you see no reference to them in the real shows (and you even see the end scenes melt into the start scenes without the Children in Need scene in the real shows, so they don't really exist).

Anyway, major continuity error in showing an "old" Davison. The Doctor regenerated before he got old.

Yeah but being old was explained in this story. It's just something I'd like to see. I doubt it will happen either. I have read that thisparticular story is considered canon however. I believe the Five Doctors was also a Children in Need episode way back when and was canon. Dimensions in Time was obviously not canon.

LoadStar

11-17-2007, 11:12 PM

Anyway, major continuity error in showing an "old" Davison. The Doctor regenerated before he got old.
They acknowledged it with a wink and a nod in dialogue in this... 10 saying "Mind you, a bit saggier than it aught to be, hair is a bit greyer... That's because of me, the two of us together shorted out the time differential."

TonyD79

11-17-2007, 11:17 PM

They acknowledged it with a wink and a nod in dialogue in this... 10 saying "Mind you, a bit saggier than it aught to be, hair is a bit greyer... That's because of me, the two of us together shorted out the time differential."

Exactly, a wink and a nod. That is what these little vingettes are. All winks and nods.

LoadStar

11-17-2007, 11:21 PM

Exactly, a wink and a nod. That is what these little vingettes are. All winks and nods.
It wasn't enough of a wink/nod to make it non-canon though, IMHO, no more of a wink/nod than a typical episode of Doctor Who, really.

But yeah, it's not enough for them to continue doing #5 stuff (except for perhaps books and audio recording stuff, maybe.)

TonyD79

11-17-2007, 11:26 PM

What makes it non-canon is that the last episode of the previous series jumped the Doctor right to the Titanic.

Not that it matters at all. It had no consequence. The whole thing was a trifle that they got some good jokes/twists in. The Doctor did something because he saw himself do it. Winks and nods, winks and nods. (And #5, in fact no Doctor previous to #10 said that time was all timey-wimey...)

I liked it because it was funny and harkened back to the old meetings of Doctors. But canon? Why would it be?

edc

11-18-2007, 02:58 PM

What makes it non-canon is that the last episode of the previous series jumped the Doctor right to the Titanic.

I liked it because it was funny and harkened back to the old meetings of Doctors. But canon? Why would it be?

(1) Two different versions of the timeline :) Besides, they significantly changed the FX. The ship that comes crashing through the TARDIS in LoTTL is black and white with a railing on the deck. The one in "Time Crash" is all steel and rivets.

(2) There is precedent. The "Christmas Invasion Pudsey Cutaway" wasn't shown in the previous years finale, but filled in some gaps, and there is no reason to doubt its canonicity.

(3) The people who are in charge and decide such things *say* it is canon. Knowing S. Moffat, and the fact he is writing a two-parter for this series, expect at least some nominal reference.

(4) Who cares? :)

betts4

11-18-2007, 03:11 PM

I just saw this thread, thanks for the link on youtube, it was great!

gchance

11-19-2007, 10:56 AM

I'm with betts, THANK YOU so much for the link! I never would have seen it otherwise.

My favorite part was the Desktop Theme. Good call, hehe.

This was going back so much for me, I haven't seen Tom Baker or Peter Davison Who since about 1989. It makes me want to seek it out, to be sure! Took me back something fierce.

Greg

jtown0620

11-19-2007, 11:38 AM

That's funny. It just aired here in Florida :)

We must have the same cable provider! Florida Rocks!;)

Just kidding loved the episode! Peter was my Doctor too! Loved the part when David said that!
Well... on 2nd thought really Tom was but Peter was a close 2nd!

JohnB1000

11-19-2007, 01:00 PM

Well I'm glad there's a thread cause I would never have known about it.

It's available on the old torrent also.

It was fun, not quite as fun as this thread had led me to believe though. I love the part where Tennant raved about PD being "his doctor"

Sherminator

11-19-2007, 06:50 PM

Can you clarify?Perhaps he hooked into Shatner's Satellite dish?

tirofiban

11-19-2007, 11:10 PM

I love the celery line! It was good to see Peter Davidson again!

edc

11-20-2007, 11:35 AM

I love the celery line! It was good to see Peter Davidson again!

It is Davison. D-A-V-I-S-O-N.

He is actually still a regular on British television. If you go over there, he is currently starring in "Spam-a-lot."

jmoak

11-20-2007, 08:00 PM

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