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Graymalkin
10-28-2007, 11:22 PM
Dexter definitely is not your typical sociopath -- he does have a capacity for emotion. Is that possible IRL? I've always felt that there are degrees of sociopathology, just as there are gradations for every other mental condition -- it's not strictly "either/or".
Oh, and Jaime Murray nude: :up: :up: :up: Can't ask for a better sponsor than that.
dswallow
10-29-2007, 12:58 AM
The ramifications of whatever that camera managed to capture while Dexter was inspecting his boat will be interesting.
I know Dexter wasn't aware of the surveillance of the marina, but considering his job he certainly should've known holding a bright light out in the open at night was bound to attract attention and that would've best been done while out in the middle of the ocean. Doing it in the marina was a serious lapse in judgment.
spikedavis
10-29-2007, 01:58 AM
The twist about Dexter's parents was brilliant. It came out of nowhere, wasn't far fetched and made total and complete sense.
One thing I may have forgotten-why didn't Harry take in Rudy as well?
tigercat74
10-29-2007, 10:02 AM
The ramifications of whatever that camera managed to capture while Dexter was inspecting his boat will be interesting.
I know Dexter wasn't aware of the surveillance of the marina, but considering his job he certainly should've known holding a bright light out in the open at night was bound to attract attention and that would've best been done while out in the middle of the ocean. Doing it in the marina was a serious lapse in judgment.
I think the camera was pointed at the entrance to the marina. I don't think it caught him cleaning the boat.
Had to change my post for a mis-type.
TAsunder
10-29-2007, 12:18 PM
I don't think the camera was pointed at the entrance to the marina. I don't think it caught him cleaning the boat.
They said to monitor the entire marina 24/7 earlier in the episode. I'm fairly certain they caught him cleaning.
Charlutz
10-29-2007, 02:04 PM
He wasn't cleaning the boat. He was looking for blood and didn't find any. But yes, it would seem the camera caught him.
I have yet to find a fault with this series. Well done.
The fact that he couldn't resist the attack on his mother's killer, when compared to all of his other carefully planned kills, shows how much of an addiction it is. He couldn't resist. At the same time, Lila's call and talking him down showed that he can be treated.
It's getting closer and closer to his sister being the one who finds out about him. And she owes her life to him, so very interesting choice looming for Deb...
I like the little info we are getting on the peripheral characters. Last week we find out Laguerta can play dirty and that Doakes has his own demons. This week we find out that they used to have a thing.
dswallow
10-29-2007, 02:09 PM
The fact that he couldn't resist the attack on his mother's killer, when compared to all of his other carefully planned kills, shows how much of an addiction it is. He couldn't resist. At the same time, Lila's call and talking him down showed that he can be treated.
So, if there was a Serial-Killing-anon 12-step group, would the law still respect anonymity? :)
tigercat74
10-29-2007, 02:12 PM
They said to monitor the entire marina 24/7 earlier in the episode. I'm fairly certain they caught him cleaning.
Sorry. I did nor hear them say that. I just assumed since the camera they showed was pointed at the entrance, I did not think they would have more cameras.
dswallow
10-29-2007, 02:18 PM
Sorry. I did nor hear them say that. I just assumed since the camera they showed was pointed at the entrance, I did not think they would have more cameras.
That camera seemed to me to be pointed towards the boats/dock. Though it did seem likely to be partially blocked by the speaker it was mounted behind.
Dignan
10-29-2007, 02:44 PM
They should have named this weeks episode "See Through".. :D
I like the way the "dark" sponsor is such a sensual being, she's stroking Dexter like a cat.
I'm also enjoying Keith Carradine. I never thought much of him as an actor but now after his role as Wild Bill on Deadwood he's a favorite.
TAsunder
10-29-2007, 03:34 PM
He wasn't cleaning the boat. He was looking for blood and didn't find any. But yes, it would seem the camera caught him.
He had a black light and sprayed his boat with something or other a few times. Seems pretty incriminating to me, although obviously not enough to prove anything.
dswallow
10-29-2007, 03:41 PM
He had a black light and sprayed his boat with something or other a few times. Seems pretty incriminating to me, although obviously not enough to prove anything.
If it's a black & white camera, it may not be so obvious what he was doing. And unless it was zoomed in pretty narrowly it will probably be difficult to tell exactly what's going on, other than that he was there... or maybe just that someone was there (ignoring the tendency for CSI-on-TV to be able to zoom in almost infinitely on even NTSC video signals with perfect resolution).
TAsunder
10-29-2007, 03:54 PM
If it's a black & white camera, it may not be so obvious what he was doing. And unless it was zoomed in pretty narrowly it will probably be difficult to tell exactly what's going on, other than that he was there... or maybe just that someone was there (ignoring the tendency for CSI-on-TV to be able to zoom in almost infinitely on even NTSC video signals with perfect resolution).
It's enough for them to be suspicious, which is all that they really need.
ReenieS
10-29-2007, 05:23 PM
Dexter was spraying with Luminol-- looking for blood. The blacklight gives away what his was doing, whether in color or not. Dumb, dumb, dumb. He should have taken it out for a ride.
There's still one guy in prison that Dexter hasn't visited yet. Plus, is Estrada related to this guy that DOAKES is after?
MickeS
10-30-2007, 12:26 AM
I liked how they brought up something I've mentioned before, the "super hero" aspect of Dexter. This is really just a more twisted version of "Batman" when it comes down to it. :)
I wonder if Lila will find out before anyone else does, and if so, how she'll react.
dswallow
10-30-2007, 12:52 AM
I wonder if Lila will find out before anyone else does, and if so, how she'll react.
I think she'll put in a request.
danterner
10-30-2007, 08:52 AM
I liked how they brought up something I've mentioned before, the "super hero" aspect of Dexter. This is really just a more twisted version of "Batman" when it comes down to it. :)
You may be interested to read this article (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12230), on Comic Book Resources, about the most recent episode of Dexter. It's spoiler-free.
Anyone check out the "Dark Defender" video, yet? I haven't, but plan to see what it's about.
The twist about Dexter's parents was brilliant. It came out of nowhere, wasn't far fetched and made total and complete sense.
One thing I may have forgotten-why didn't Harry take in Rudy as well?
(spoilered out of courtesy to Graymalkin)
My recollection is that (according to Rudy, at least) Harry decided that Dexter was still young enough to be salvageable, but that Rudy was older and so too damaged by what he went through.
I really liked this episode a lot. Great episode, great show, great second season. I'm hard pressed to think of many series that don't have sophomore slump second seasons, but Dexter hasn't dropped a stitch yet.
MickeS
10-30-2007, 10:13 AM
You may be interested to read this article (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12230), on Comic Book Resources, about the most recent episode of Dexter. It's spoiler-free.
Thanks! That was an interesting read.
pjenkins
10-30-2007, 04:19 PM
I really liked this episode a lot. Great episode, great show, great second season. I'm hard pressed to think of many series that don't have sophomore slump second seasons, but Dexter hasn't dropped a stitch yet.
i agree that this show is great, but if anything it is better this year than last and is moving up, not down or staying the same.
Rob Helmerichs
10-30-2007, 10:30 PM
Amusing bit of trivia--the guy who was arrested for the comic shop murder (the big Hispanic dude) is comic book Tone Rodriguez, who did the Dark Defender art for the episode. And the dead guy on the comic shop floor is comic book writer Dan Wickline.
rcobourn
10-31-2007, 01:47 PM
The twist about Dexter's parents was brilliant. It came out of nowhere, wasn't far fetched and made total and complete sense.
One thing I may have forgotten-why didn't Harry take in Rudy as well?
I think we are going to find out he took Dexter because he was Dexter's natural father.
Havana Brown
10-31-2007, 04:21 PM
i agree that this show is great, but if anything it is better this year than last and is moving up, not down or staying the same.
And unlike Prison Break, which keeps getting cheesier and should have been finished after one season, this show keeps getting better and some great angles.
I think we are going to find out he took Dexter because he was Dexter's natural father.
Damn you, why didn't I think of that? Good though.
Johncv
11-01-2007, 07:21 PM
First of all regarding the camera, it was pointing at the dock not the boat, so all that was recorded is Dexter heading to his boat with a bag and leaving with a bag. The time frame on the camera is what going to be interesting. My guess is Deb is going to be the one who end up reviewing the video and then confronting Dexter. I think Deb going to find out about his hobby. :D
Second, are the police this dumb, any boat with the name “Slice of Life” should stick out.
Johncv
11-03-2007, 09:39 PM
I think we are going to find out he took Dexter because he was Dexter's natural father.
Dexter did a blood test in season one, and Harry is not natural father.
Graymalkin
11-03-2007, 09:52 PM
Johncv, you might want to spoiler that for folks who haven't seen Season 1. I just watched the episode where that was revealed today.
MickeS
11-03-2007, 09:57 PM
Johncv, you might want to spoiler that for folks who haven't seen Season 1. I just watched the episode where that was revealed today.
Anything that has transpired in the show up until now should be fair game to discuss. Especially if it's from Season 1.
Johncv
11-03-2007, 10:20 PM
Anything that has transpired in the show up until now should be fair game to discuss. Especially if it's from Season 1.
Thanks for defending me, I was starting to think that Dexter killed everyone here. :D
schmatt
11-04-2007, 01:27 AM
IF they did catch Dex on the marina camera, I would think he could try to explain it by claiming he was checking his boat for blood that the Ice Truck Killer could have planted since after all, he is the brother of the woman who dated the killer.
Just a theory, but it would be a stretch and still raise suspicion on Dex regardless. My guess is that the camera only caught him coming and going. But I do agree with the other poster that it was sloppy for him to do this in the marina. He should have took the boat out for some privacy.
Great show!
Graymalkin
11-04-2007, 08:04 AM
So basically I'm the only one who was pleased to see Jaime Murray in the nude? Just me and Danny Blue? :D
Johncv
11-04-2007, 06:05 PM
IF they did catch Dex on the marina camera, I would think he could try to explain it by claiming he was checking his boat for blood that the Ice Truck Killer could have planted since after all, he is the brother of the woman who dated the killer.
Just a theory, but it would be a stretch and still raise suspicion on Dex regardless. My guess is that the camera only caught him coming and going. But I do agree with the other poster that it was sloppy for him to do this in the marina. He should have took the boat out for some privacy.
Great show!
I still think the police and the FBI are being dumb, you would think that in an investigation such as this they would close off all three marinas and obtain a blanket search warrant to search all the boats.
dswallow
11-04-2007, 06:11 PM
I still think the police and the FBI are being dumb, you would think that in an investigation such as this they would close off all three marinas and obtain a blanket search warrant to search all the boats.
I'm pretty sure you could only do that in RegBarc's world. Not the real world. :)
MickeS
11-04-2007, 07:39 PM
I'm pretty sure you could only do that in RegBarc's world. Not the real world. :)
So you're saying the made-up world of Dexter is more real than RegBarc's reality? :D
Johncv
11-04-2007, 07:39 PM
I'm pretty sure you could only do that in RegBarc's world. Not the real world. :)
RegBarc’s ?? :confused:
MickeS
11-04-2007, 07:45 PM
RegBarc’s ?? :confused:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/member.php?u=42904
Hunter Green
11-05-2007, 10:26 AM
Anyhow, closing off the marinas isn't nearly as good a tactic. All they'd have then is the hope that there's evidence on one of the boats. Far better to allow traffic and monitor it, since the comings and goings of people are likely to provide additional evidence. But once you close the marinas, the chance of that drops to nearly nil, since the perp is sure to go to ground. If you stake them out first, you can always close them later, but once you close them, you can't really stake them out.
danterner
11-05-2007, 03:27 PM
Just a theory, but it would be a stretch and still raise suspicion on Dex regardless. My guess is that the camera only caught him coming and going. But I do agree with the other poster that it was sloppy for him to do this in the marina. He should have took the boat out for some privacy.
Great show!
I say the following without yet having seen the newest (yesterday's) episode:
I think that Dexter is not nearly as careful as he paints himself to be. He's an unreliable narrator, and just because he says he is meticulous doesn't mean he really is. I think that, generally, he's become more and more sloppy over the course of last season and continuing into this one. For example, his quest to visit his mother's killer in Naples, FL (or wherever it was the roadtrip took them), and his near killing of him, was very sloppily done and could be traced back to him much more easily than his randomly-selected vigilante victims had he followed through, yet he still found it very hard to resist. Once the murder of the one is attributed to him, it's a short link to all of the other Bay Harbor Butcher victims.
johnperkins21
11-05-2007, 04:14 PM
Anyhow, closing off the marinas isn't nearly as good a tactic. All they'd have then is the hope that there's evidence on one of the boats. Far better to allow traffic and monitor it, since the comings and goings of people are likely to provide additional evidence. But once you close the marinas, the chance of that drops to nearly nil, since the perp is sure to go to ground. If you stake them out first, you can always close them later, but once you close them, you can't really stake them out.
Agreed. And as Dexter proved when he checked his boat, there would probably be nothing for them to find if they closed it off for a search anyway. Their best hope at this point is to catch someone in the act.
And it looked to me like all that camera got was a lens full of lamp shade. Given the size of the marina, it was a horrible location for it, especially when over half the view is being blocked.
Finally, I'm sure Dexter could just say that he was doing some tests checking for blood on a boat. He was in that room doing the blood splatter tests, no reason he couldn't do them on his boat. Sure it's weird, but everyone already thinks he's weird.
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