The Office - 10/25/07

[VegasVic]

Very good episode. Dwights second life. "Give me a break...". Papa Bear, Mama Bear, Baby Bear.

[sushikitten]

Their actual video was VERY cool. I was impressed!

[scottykempf]

"Give me a break, give me a break, break me off a piece of that mmm mmm mmm. I'm drawing a blank here. ............Apple sauce."
"Break me off a piece of that apple sauce. I don't think..."
"A piece of that Chrysler car."
"Nope."
Football cream."
"That's it. It's football cream."

"I find the mystery genre disgusting. I hate being titillated."

"She said Oh, D."
"Oh D."
"oh D."
"OH D, HAHAHHHAHHAHAHHA" (If only Andy knew that Angela calls Dwight D.)

"Pam, please clear my phone lines."
"Ok. Beep beep boop beep beep beep. Ok, clear." :D

I liked when they were watching the ad, Dwight looked over at Angela and Angela looked down, it looked like she felt guilty. She and Dwight need to get back together, they are perfect for each other.

[VegasVic]

Moping Dwight has run it's course. Glad to see it may be coming to an end.

[USAFSSO]

Whats rap?

[scottykempf]

Whats rap?

Rock on Darryl!

[VegasVic]

You need to get more in touch with your culture.

[scottykempf]

"When I tell people I work at Dunder Mifflin, they think we sell mufflers. Or muffins, or mittens....And frankly, all those sound better than paper, so I let it slide. "

[Fish Man]

Their actual video was VERY cool. I was impressed!

Indeed.

Their ad was actually very good!

The corporate ad actually did suck!

I think something that we're seeing develop is that just as Michael is a demonstration of The Peter Principle in that he has risen to the level of his incompetence, Ryan has now risen to the level of his incompetence.

The ad that Michael directed was very good. Michael is an excellent salesman after all (just an incompetent sales manager). His ideas on how to sell are insightful and clever.

The ad that Ryan "delegated" sucked, demonstrating Ryan having risen to the level of his incompetence.

I'm awaiting the fate of Ryan. Michael has managed to survive as a manager despite his incompetence. Will Ryan survive as well, or being more under the microscope at corporate, will he get fired?

[Michael S]

It kind of weird because last night on CSI:NY the episode was based around Second Life.

[jsmeeker]

...Fancy Feast.

[Shaunnick]

The Oh D! scene is the best 45 second spot this entire season. I read people laying claim to falling out of their seats laughing about this or that, but for me that was fall out of my seat funny. :up: :D :up:

[TeighVaux]

"Limitless paper in a paperless world"

It don't get no bettern' that:).

[lpamelaa]

Kool Aid Man..... :D

Darryls songs were really good too!

[MickeS]

I loved when Michael introduced everyone at the office.

[EVizzle]

Dwight's head on the vending machine right before he started to say Oh, D was incredible!

Best line of the season has to be "What is a Jim?"

[Fofer]

BEST. EPISODE. YET! :D



"You have a son, and it's me."

[The Flush]

I like semi-competent Michael better than completely incompetent Michael.

[Jesda]

Best episode of the season, by far. This is another one of those I can watch over and over and over.

From Wikipedia, The Peter Principle:
A second complication is that entry-level jobs that are detail oriented and restrictive favour detail-oriented workers, yet hinder creative and innovative workers. By definition and necessity, entry-level jobs are the assembly line of an organization, and thus the most creative and innovative employees start in positions of incompetence. The detail-oriented persons are thus promoted over the creative employees. Often these creative employees are incapable of showing their work strengths because of the structured and restrictive assembly line environments, and then are tagged as bad employees.
In reality, creative employees may be more suited to management jobs, but, because they are unable to use their strengths in the low-level jobs they hold, they never rise to management, and the innate flexibility and innovation needed for managing is lost to the company. The end result for an organization as a whole is that the organization will collapse when incompetents in the ranks outnumber the competent, resulting in the organization's inability to produce results.

[cwoody222]

... and even MORE Wegmans store-brand product placement. "D" (Andy) was drinking their store-brand soda, "WPOP", during the 'Oh D!' scene!

Great episode!

[RoundBoy]

Michael's ad, better produced .. was better hands down.

I kept thinking the man running through Staples was really over the top.. and it HAD to be a rough cut.


I see that it wasn't ;)

[newsposter]

... and even MORE Wegmans store-brand product placement. "D" (Andy) was drinking their store-brand soda,

I missed that but always recognized the Herrs chips (located on the MD/PA border) and utz as well in the vending machine. Wonder how much it costs to get your product on?

[markp99]

Who knew?

We have a Dunder Mifflin branch right here in Nashua! :D

Their commercial did suck! ;)

[Peter000]

I like semi-competent Michael better than completely incompetent Michael.
+1

[markymark_ctown]

great episode after last week's (imho) mediocre effort!

lots of lol moments...

[Skittles]

I liked the episode overall, but the Second Life segment felt more like product placement than anything relevant to the episode. I didn't find the SL segments humorous or beneficial to the episode at all.

I'm wondering if it's something where they're laying groundwork for a future episode, or just threw it in for the pop culture factor.

[MickeS]

I liked the episode overall, but the Second Life segment felt more like product placement than anything relevant to the episode. I didn't find the SL segments humorous or beneficial to the episode at all.

I'm wondering if it's something where they're laying groundwork for a future episode, or just threw it in for the pop culture factor.
It seeemed a bit out of place to me too. But as I had actually never seen Second Life before (tried installing, but it says my video card isn't compatible) I found it interesting. :)

I liked it when Pam turned it around on Jim and commented more on his 2nd Life persona than on Dwight's. I also liked that Dwight was STILL just Assistant to the Regional Manager in 2nd Life. :D

I was waiting for Dwight to do a sale in Second Life. :)

[SeanC]

Indeed.

Their ad was actually very good!

The corporate ad actually did suck!

Yeah I was pretty surprised at how good it was, I thought it was better than Corporate's ad as well.

[Sacrilegium]

Anybody else get the feeling they're laying the seeds for PB&J issues? Jim wasn't pleased with her working late, and was a little insecure about the guy at the bar hitting on her.

[DougF]

Anybody else get the feeling they're laying the seeds for PB&J issues? Jim wasn't pleased with her working late, and was a little insecure about the guy at the bar hitting on her.

I had that thought, too. Though, when he called her from his desk and had the breakfast for her, that thought went away.

[DougF]

Those commercials with the employees waving are so lame. All the businesses here do that for Christmas, I mean Happy Holidays, ads.

[Zevida]

While the corporate video was fairly lame, Michael's video was not without fault. Moving at the speed of time? Paperless world? And then the paper saying most creative boss. They definitely could have used a few script changes for that one, but overall more compelling than the corporate version. I loved how proud the creative team was of their ad.

My favorite line was Angela saying she doesn't like to be titillated. I lost it. Not only is the word funny, but the way Angela said it was great. I had to pause and kept laughing for a good minute.

In elementary school we used to sing that kit-kat song on the bus.

[MickeS]

While the corporate video was fairly lame, Michael's video was not without fault. Moving at the speed of time? Paperless world? And then the paper saying most creative boss. They definitely could have used a few script changes for that one, but overall more compelling than the corporate version. I loved how proud the creative team was of their ad.

Obviously the homemade ad wasn't perfect. It was overreaching and pompous, and really didn't make much sense. It was like a mish-mash of all those financial and B2B commercials they show during golf on TV.

But it was still a whole lot better than the get-the-money-and-run hackjob that the ad agency made for corporate.

[Robs67]

"Limitless paper in a paperless world"

It don't get no bettern' that:).

I LOVED that. I work for a financial printer in the IT/Web division. I want to put that phrase on all of the web based products I take care of. :p

[Fofer]

Obviously the homemade ad wasn't perfect. It was overreaching and pompous, and really didn't make much sense. It was like a mish-mash of all those financial and B2B commercials they show during golf on TV.

But it was still a whole lot better than the get-the-money-and-run hackjob that the ad agency made for corporate.

Yeah. Michael's ad was charming, and creative. But not unbelievably so! It really sold the "joy of paper." Whereas the corporate add was soulless and boring.

Michael's seemed too long though (that's what she said.)

Pam's animation... actually very good. :up:

Anyone else notice that the secretary Ryan hired... looked quite a bit like Pam? :p

Oh, and the commercial director corporate sent over kinda looked like Bryanmc to me. :D


I did see a bit of friction between Jim and Pam. When Jim pointed out Dwight's "second second life" Pam's first reaction wasn't to make fun, but to note that Dwight "must be in a lot of pain" and then proceeded to make fun on Jim instead.

All in all, I loved this episode and thought it was the best of the season so far.

[Fofer]

I went back to see who wrote this episode, since I was so impressed.

B.J. Novak. (The guy who plays Ryan.)

[jsmeeker]

The commerical Michael made was good. Not a perfect commerical. But it showed real effort and care. So much better than just standing in the parking lot and waving at a camera.

Like DougF said, it reminds me of commericals I see on TV. Like for the "Jewelry Exchange". There is a stock commerical, then it closes with people standing in the store doing the "Girl on a float in a parade" wave. Each location of the chain just plugs in their wave scene. It's funny. I see these both in Dallas and Los Angeles.

Edit to add: The show is making me feel bad for Dwight. Congratulations, writers. You win.

:)

[busyba]

Oh, and the commercial director corporate sent over kinda looked like Bryanmc to me. :D
I thought he looked like pro poker player Erick Lindgren (http://www.ericklindgren.com/). I couldn't figure out why he would make a cameo like that. :)

[NJChris]

Anybody else get the feeling they're laying the seeds for PB&J issues? Jim wasn't pleased with her working late, and was a little insecure about the guy at the bar hitting on her.

Those are pretty normal relationship issues. My take is they are showing them have real interaction. I didn't see Jim as being upset, but Pam was having fun teasing him on his Second Life character. :)

[Bierboy]

While the corporate video was fairly lame, Michael's video was not without fault. Moving at the speed of time? Paperless world?....But that's what made it so good and hilarious!

[MickeS]

But that's what made it so good and hilarious!
And that kind of nonsense "moving at the speed of time" is in all those stupid B2B commercials on TV.

[FourFourSeven]

I like that Michael's ad was not terrible, but still looked "homemade" and still had some Michael-eque touches that make you cringe (Stanley as the prison worker cleaning up litter? Phyllis as Dwight's mom?).

Definitely the best episode of the year - the show flows much better as a 1/2 hour show.

I wonder how much Kit Kat paid for the product placement, given they were never even mentioned, but it was successfully running through my head all night last night...

[Fofer]

I wonder how much Kit Kat paid for the product placement


YEEESSSSSS!!!!


THAT'S IT!

/exhales


:) :) :) :) :) :)

:D

[scottjf8]

Ryan's being a little bitch :)

[GDG76]

I loved how they turned around Jim making fun of Dwight onto Jim himself. Jim Santanko, a sportswriter from Philly with a guitar around his neck- contrasted with Dwight, who was still assistant to the regional manager :)

[Fofer]

I loved how they turned around Jim making fun of Dwight onto Jim himself. Jim Santanko, a sportswriter from Philly with a guitar around his neck- contrasted with Dwight, who was still assistant to the regional manager :)

Yep. Although I would have snickered just a bit more, if in Second Life, Dwight had indulged a bit... and given himself the title of "Assistant Regional Manager." :D





Did anyone pause on the text of Michael's email that he sent to corporate with his video?

"Attached is the final final FINAL commercial..."

:D

[Neenahboy]

Did anyone pause on the text of Michael's email that he sent to corporate with his video?


Yep. I thought that 400MB AVI file sent a little too quickly. :D

[JYoung]

Those are pretty normal relationship issues. My take is they are showing them have real interaction. I didn't see Jim as being upset, but Pam was having fun teasing him on his Second Life character. :)


Bingo.
We never saw her having these kind of interactions with Roy.


And
"D for Andy"
:D

[Lopey]

Anybody else get the feeling they're laying the seeds for PB&J issues? Jim wasn't pleased with her working late, and was a little insecure about the guy at the bar hitting on her.

I thought that Jim's only problem with her working late was that she was his ride home...

[Skittles]

I thought that Jim's only problem with her working late was that she was his ride home...Personally, I think his bigger problem is with *who* the ride was coming from.

Especially given the look in her eyes a few episodes ago, when he signed her pelvic cast. :)

[jsmeeker]

does this mean Jim and Pam are living together? Or at least, spending many nights together?

[Lopey]

Personally, I think his bigger problem is with *who* the ride was coming from.

Especially given the look in her eyes a few episodes ago, when he signed her pelvic cast. :)

I wouldn't be as scared of the looks from her as I would the way we have seen her drive before, and how much of a lush we all know she is!!

[uncdrew]

BEST. EPISODE. YET! :D



"You have a son, and it's me."


See, the half hour format is SOOOOO much better. :p


This episode rocked. Awesome.

I love that it focused on the office and was mostly in the office. So many great lines and scenes.


"Let's change the names. We'll call Angela Angela and Andy Dwight." :D

Creed stealing the hashbrowns. :up: Perfectly in-character office humor.

[uncdrew]

I liked the episode overall, but the Second Life segment felt more like product placement than anything relevant to the episode. I didn't find the SL segments humorous or beneficial to the episode at all.

I'm wondering if it's something where they're laying groundwork for a future episode, or just threw it in for the pop culture factor.


Yeah, it didn't fit well, but I loved the reason Dwight gave for playing. :D

And that his character is exactly like him (only he can fly).

[Sirius Black]

I liked the episode overall, but the Second Life segment felt more like product placement than anything relevant to the episode. I didn't find the SL segments humorous or beneficial to the episode at all.

I'm wondering if it's something where they're laying groundwork for a future episode, or just threw it in for the pop culture factor.

Isn't Second Life free to play?

I would have expected Dwight to play one of those hit the bug zapper already games like Horizons or Shadowbane.

[busyba]

Isn't Second Life free to play?
It can be, although more advanced features cost money.

On the other hand, with enough skill and marketing, you can actually turn a profit playing the game.

[Fofer]

does this mean Jim and Pam are living together? Or at least, spending many nights together?

Yes, jsmeeker. I do, indeed, think this means that Pam and Jim are spending many nights together.

[Kablemodem]

Oh, and the commercial director corporate sent over kinda looked like Bryanmc to me.

I thought so to. The actor is from a commercial where he mocks his boss in a company meeting. One of those Wanna Get Away? commercials. I don't remember what it was for.

[MickeS]

Yes, jsmeeker. I do, indeed, think this means that Pam and Jim are spending many nights together.
But they're not married? :confused:

[Fofer]

But they're not married? :confused:

Yes, I know, it's all very complicated.

[scottykempf]

Ryan's being a little bitch :)

"Michael, I'm on the line." :D

[Tracy]

I liked the part where Kelly was in India with the really believable background and that the headline on the newspaper was obviously a white strip added to the front.

I found this episode to be really heart-warming. I loved watching them watch their commercial and really connect as a team. It was nice to see.

Oh, and yes, you can make a profit in Second Life. I am. :)

[Magnolia88]

So this "Second Life" thing is real? I thought it was totally made up. :o

I don't get the point, though. Is the idea that you can give yourself super powers? Like flying and er, playing the guitar?

I did enjoy "Philly Jim" and would love to see more of him.

[jsmeeker]

I thought the second life thing was funny as hell.

Of course, I don't play it, so that's probably a big part of it. And also because Dwight's second life was identical to his first (real) life. Except he could fly.

How awesome is that? He thinks his life is so perfect, he wants an exact copy of it. (plus with the flying thing). That's great stuff right there.

[Elevation]

Michael's commercial was better than most of the local commercials I see around my area.

[Bananfish]

But they're not married? :confused:

If this was the original The Office, I believe the proper phrase would be "he's shagging her rotten." :D

[Cearbhaill]

I found this episode to be really heart-warming. I loved watching them watch their commercial and really connect as a team. It was nice to see.

I don't usually count on crying when I watch The Office, but upon both viewings of this episode I found myself getting teary over the ad. Their commercial was so heartfelt and each one of them seemed so proud of their individual contribution. They managed to set aside their petty little daily grind aggravations and come together in a way that really hit me. They are becoming more and more like a family.

Another thing that really struck me was Dwight's transformation from a truly broken hearted man to an exuberant happy guy as he hears that Angela was moaning about "D". He's slumped up against the vending machine barely managing to hold on to life and over the span of two seconds his entire demeanor just transmogrifies his core essence from broken to on top of the world- great job Rainn!

I was also impressed by Michael's insistence on doing the job in house when he was on the phone to corporate. He was so effective and determined in his communication. I love it when Michael Scott succeeds. It's a true testament to Carell's talent that Micheal can be such a clueless jerk yet I continue to root for him to get it right.

[NJChris]

I don't get the point, though. Is the idea that you can give yourself super powers? Like flying and er, playing the guitar?
.

Some people have that super power in real life - Playing the Guitar. However, it is sometimes used for evil!

[tem]

why didn't they call the commercial "A Michael Scott Joynt" ? :D

Darrel's song sounded like something from "Flight of the Conchords" as well ... "The people person paper people" ...

[Fofer]

So this "Second Life" thing is real? I thought it was totally made up. :o

I don't get the point, though. Is the idea that you can give yourself super powers? Like flying and er, playing the guitar?

Nah, it's real: http://secondlife.com/whatis/

[TeighVaux]

So was it "Oh! D!" or "AnDy"?:)

[IndyJones1023]

Man, Carell has a really bad dye job.

[MikeMar]

The Second Life game that Dwight created IN Second life was great :D

[Fofer]

Second Second Life :D

[Alfer]

"NAILED IT! "




:)

[JETarpon]

Loved the "World's Most Creative Boss" callback.

[campbellleo]

Oh, so many funny moments. Andy's incredibly lame 'aromatherapy' joke, the 'you have a son, and it's me', the jingle that Darryl wrote... I find that's a thing the writers do occasionally (have someone in the office do something really well, and then of course Michael doesn't allow it).

RE: Jam, I think there might be issues there regarding the fact that Pam is working on her dreams, and Jim... well, Jim never has. But I think it would be very out of character for Jim to have problems with Pam over that -- just problems with himself.

Of course, Jim can't leave Dunder-Mifflin, or else the show is gone, so I doubt he will ever resolve his problems. Until the series finale, I guess.

I was one of the diehard 'the show is great in a 45 minute block' supporters, but I have to admit, this has been the best episode of the season by far. Definitely heartwarming, still hilarious, and always interesting. Yay for The Office!

[Fofer]

campbellleo, just wanted to say, I appreciate your comments on this show... and agree totally on all of your points!

Welcome to the forum!

[vman41]

Michael's commercial was better than most of the local commercials I see around my area.

Michael's commercial really wasn't made by amateurs.

[MickeS]

Michael's commercial really wasn't made by amateurs.
But it was made to look like it - and even then, it's still better than most local commercials. :)

[modnar]

But they're not married? :confused:
"Hussy."


:)

[classicX]

Brrrrring!

Andy: Hello?
Dwight: Hey man. It's Dwight.
Andy: Hey, what's up?
Dwight: Check your email. I sent you something.
Andy: What is it?
Dwight: It's a new website. SlapCountdown.com
Andy: Wha... what does it mean? What is this?
Dwight: *click*
Andy: No... NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I'd pay $5 to see that exchange.

[TiMo Tim]

"And thus… Michael Scott seals his own destiny…

… In a good way.”

[stiffi]

My favorite scenes were Andy humming the Kit Kat song.

We left a few out.

Right at the end of the episode, leading into the next show

"Jean-Claude-Van-Dam"
"Poi-son Gas"
"Fan-cy Feast" "Yes, that's it, it's Cat Food", (smiles, triumphantly)

[scsiguy72]

So did Michael have to pay for corporate to "remake" the version that aired? I remember him saying that if they didn't like his production he would pay for corporate to come back and film.

[busyba]

So did Michael have to pay for corporate to "remake" the version that aired? I remember him saying that if they didn't like his production he would pay for corporate to come back and film.
Even if he did, considering that the only portion of the commercial that wasn't "stock" was the overhead pullback of the Scranton crew waving to the camera, it probably didn't cost all that much.

In any case, since Michael's declared bankruptcy, DM will just have to get in line behind all the other creditors in order to collect. :D

[DevdogAZ]

I thought the corporate ad wasn't that bad concept wise, but the execution was horrible. The end should have shown the guy going to DM and getting lots of friendly help. But instead, we just see a shot of the outside of their building and then their employees waving? Are we to believe that Big Box Paper couldn't film their people waving in the parking lot?

I also thought the second life thing must be a fake version of some real game. Guess I was wrong.

[DevdogAZ]

I thought so to. The actor is from a commercial where he mocks his boss in a company meeting. One of those Wanna Get Away? commercials. I don't remember what it was for.
The "Want To Get Away?" ads are for Southwest Airlines.

[trainman]

The "Want To Get Away?" ads are for Southwest Airlines.

I thought they were for football cream.

[NoThru22]

I thought they were for football cream.
Break me off a piece of that... football cream?

[Kablemodem]

I gave out Football Cream to the kiddies last night.

[jradford]

Great episode. I watched this back to back with the one last night, (even though I was one of the folks that felt 30 minutes was a much better length.) I liked both episodes quite a bit more than the first few.

"Break me off a piece of that......"

"NOBODY say anything."

[Robin]

"Hussy."

Well, she -is- the office mattress...

[The Flush]

Apparently Dunder-Mifflin = Kelly Paper in North Hollywood. Or at least one of the local ad scenes was filmed there. Kelly Paper is one of our company's biggest customers.