TTG and MRV go live today! (official)

[bdraw]

TiVo announced that TTG and MRV go live today.

Here is TiVoPony's post (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5624119&&#post5624119) which I copied from about 15 posts down.


Wow, you guys are quick!

Just rolling out of bed here. Yes, we were able to switch this on a bit early. Now you can share video between your Series3's, your TiVo HD's, and your Series2's. Any combination works, with the caveats that HD content cannot be transfered to a Series2, and content the broadcaster has marked as copy protected cannot be transfered at all (as has always been the case with this feature).

You'll find that there is now a little checkbox on www.tivo.com/mma next to your Series3/TiVo HD systems that allows you to turn on video sharing for those systems. Right now for most of you that is likely unchecked...log into Manage My Account at the link above and check the box. Give it a couple of hours, and then force connections on all of your DVR's (yes, they all have to connect to the service to receive new 'sharing certificates'...basically lists of DVR's they're allowed to share with).

In the future you won't have to bother with the checkboxes, we'll be switching the default for Series3/TiVo HD to 'Allow Sharing' automatically.

Enjoy! Even though it's in the 80's here in California this week, it still felt a lot like November.


There are two 'types' of transfers - native and non-native. You won't see any reference in the UI to these terms, as it's rather techy, but so you know:

* Native transfers simply mean between like-generation platforms. Series2 to Series2. Series3 to Series3. Series3 to TiVo HD.

* Non-Native transfers refer to video shared across generations...Series2 to Series3 and vice versa.

Because the Series2 and Series3/TiVo HD platforms record in a slightly different MPEG format, some conversion is done during the transfer, making non-native transfers a bit slower.

Also, due to system resources, TiVo HD transfers are typically a bit slower at the moment. Speeding them up is something being investigated, but there is no additional information to share today.

There have been some reports of Series2 to Series2 transfers being slower than before, and we're investigating that as well. That is not intended or expected.

And yes, TiVoToComeBack (transferring video from your PC to your TiVo DVR) is supported, although HD content must have been originally recorded on a TiVo DVR to 'come back' as HD. HD content from other sources may be converted to SD and transferred to the DVR using TiVo Desktop Plus. Supporting HD transfers from the PC of non-TiVo content is being investigated.

[cr33p]

Damn you beat me to making the post :)

Well the manage my account page still shows "Transfers Not Allowed"

[Chew]

TiVo announced that TTG and MRV go live today.

Make sure you have 9.2



Well, this is odd. I woke up to TTG and MRV on my Series 3 this morning, however, I still have 9.1?

Why do we need to "make sure"?

[Joybob]

So they lied about it being a November release!!!

Curse you Tivo!!!

[chrishicks]

Well, this is odd. I woke up to TTG and MRV on my Series 3 this morning, however, I still have 9.1?


you're lucky. I don't have TTG/MRV with my 9.1. :(

[sfhub]

The foundation has been there even before 9.1. It was controlled by the account status flags that you download. 9.2 probably has all the latest bug fixes so it is advisable to have (thought it has its own issues as well)

[Graymalkin]

My account shows transfers allowed for my two THDs with 9.2. Unfortunately, the THD I got yesterday is still at 8.1, and I haven't been able to force an update yet.

Also, the TiVo Transfer software inside Toast Titanium 8 (for Macintosh) is not listing any of the THDs. So that software may not have caught up yet.

[cwoody222]

I got 9.2 last night and I was still listed as i,i,i on my Series3.

Whoa, spoke too soon... on TiVo.com my S3 is now showing "Transferred ALLOWED" :)

Now I just gotta get my new Intel iMac (next week) so I can install Windows. Because I refuse to pay for something on my Mac that Windows users get for free.

[sfhub]

Both my S3s are now a,a,a. Transfers are enabled on my TiVo account. I can see the "Now Playing" list of the other S3. When I try to use MRV to play back a remote show I get an error.

"This program was not transferred onto this DVR because the program was recorded in an unknown format"

It says this for both SD digital and HD digital. None of the shows in question are CCI=non-zero. Both units are running 9.2.J1. Both units have been rebooted.

[cr33p]

Well what the hell, I have 9.2 and still show Transfers not allowed

[oldnacl]

Oooo I guess it's time for me to spring for the second TiVoHD. Mine went to 9.1xxx yesterday and I put it on the list for 9.2.

Or maybe I should add my unused S2 DT to the subscription and see how things work before buying another HD

Question: I don't want to spend extra for the CCs on the second TiVoHD and if I can't transfer a HD program from the one with the cards to the one just running OTA and/or basic cable, should I even buy another HD?

[chrishicks]

I just checked one of my S2s and it can see my S3(I only checked the one so far). of course I can't actually transfer anything from my S3 as everything on it is HD. they even have a nifty little red symbolhttp://www.auroraoh.com/depts/svc/pgms/Programs/circle%20with%20line%20through%20it.gif that lets you know you can't transfer the programs.

wow, that little image is bigger than I thought.

[bdraw]

TiVo PR told me 9.2 was required, but I haven't verified it personally.

[Chimpware]

Actually had to go to Tivo site and check off box to Enable Transfers under Preferences.

[RoyK]

...

Question: I don't want to spend extra for the CCs on the second TiVoHD and if I can't transfer a HD program from the one with the cards to the one just running OTA and/or basic cable, should I even buy another HD?

I'm sure you will be able to transfer HD programs between S3/HD boxes (assuming no copy restriction has been imposed on the program) but not from a S3/HD box to a S2 box.

Cablecards have nothing to do with it.

[cr33p]

Actually had to go to Tivo site and check off box to Enable Transfers under Preferences.

Whoa missed that one, the excitement let it slips through my head. Now I need to know if PyTivo or Tivo.net will work :)

[ADG]

Yes, both my "old" S3 with 9.2 (as of this AM) and my brand new S3 with 8.3 both now show "Transfers Allowed" on the "Manage My Account" page, though there have been no notices from TiVo that I've seen,

[tase2]

This is my first venture into the world of TTG. Is there a nice FAQ I could look at to get me started?

Also, if TTG is enabled, does that mean TTCB is also enabled?

[cr33p]

Yes, both my "old" S3 with 9.2 (as of this AM) and my brand new S3 with 8.3 both now show "Transfers Allowed" on the "Manage My Account" page, though there have been no notices from TiVo that I've seen,

We know with mismatched software that transfers should not work

[cr33p]

This is my first venture into the world of TTG. Is there a nice FAQ I could look at to get me started?

Also, if TTG is enabled, does that mean TTCB is also enabled?

Great question if TTCB is enabled, that is the most important thing to me, I just recently removed my second TV, I want to get movies of my server to my Tivo HD.

[Chimpware]

Update: Although Tivo.com shows Transfers Allowed after I set it in my Preferences, my Tivo HD, after multiple forced connections still shows i,i,i... with 9.2

EDIT: Tivo HD now shows a,a,a, but no TTG or TTC, just denies access.

[cr33p]

Update: Although Tivo.com shows Transfers Allowed after I set it in my Preferences, my Tivo HD, after multiple forced connections still shows i,i,i... with 9.2

I bet their servers are working to switch everyone over. We hope :)

[oldnacl]

I'm sure you will be able to transfer HD programs between S3/HD boxes (assuming no copy restriction has been imposed on the program) but not from a S3/HD box to a S2 box.

Cablecards have nothing to do with it.

That's what I wanted to hear. I guess I'll hold off until I see a post that someone has actually transferred a HD program and then I'll get my credit card out.

Thanks!

[TiVoPony]

Wow, you guys are quick!

Just rolling out of bed here. Yes, we were able to switch this on a bit early. Now you can share video between your Series3's, your TiVo HD's, and your Series2's. Any combination works, with the caveats that HD content cannot be transfered to a Series2, and content the broadcaster has marked as copy protected cannot be transfered at all (as has always been the case with this feature).

You'll find that there is now a little checkbox on www.tivo.com/mma (http://www.tivo.com/mma) next to your Series3/TiVo HD systems that allows you to turn on video sharing for those systems. Right now for most of you that is likely unchecked...log into Manage My Account at the link above and check the box. Give it a couple of hours, and then force connections on all of your DVR's (yes, they all have to connect to the service to receive new 'sharing certificates'...basically lists of DVR's they're allowed to share with).

In the future you won't have to bother with the checkboxes, we'll be switching the default for Series3/TiVo HD to 'Allow Sharing' automatically.

Enjoy! Even though it's in the 80's here in California this week, it still felt a lot like November. ;)

Pony

[cr33p]

Much thanks for the info Pony :) Glad you guys where able to get this rolling early. Thanks to our help of course ;) j/k

[Chimpware]

Wow, you guys are quick!

Just rolling out of bed here. Yes, we were able to switch this on a bit early. Now you can share video between your Series3's, your TiVo HD's, and your Series2's. Any combination works, with the caveats that HD content cannot be transfered to a Series2, and content the broadcaster has marked as copy protected cannot be transfered at all (as has always been the case with this feature).

You'll find that there is now a little checkbox on www.tivo.com/mma (http://www.tivo.com/mma) next to your Series3/TiVo HD systems that allows you to turn on video sharing for those systems. Right now for most of you that is likely unchecked...log into Manage My Account at the link above and check the box. Give it a couple of hours, and then force connections on all of your DVR's (yes, they all have to connect to the service to receive new 'sharing certificates'...basically lists of DVR's they're allowed to share with).

In the future you won't have to bother with the checkboxes, we'll be switching the default for Series3/TiVo HD to 'Allow Sharing' automatically.

Enjoy! Even though it's in the 80's here in California this week, it still felt a lot like November. ;)

Pony

Thanks much appreciated. No mention of TTG or TTC in your post, are these wokring as well?

[TiVoPony]

Oh, to set some expectations (I've mentioned this before, but will do so again here):

There are two 'types' of transfers - native and non-native. You won't see any reference in the UI to these terms, as it's rather techy, but so you know:

* Native transfers simply mean between like-generation platforms. Series2 to Series2. Series3 to Series3. Series3 to TiVo HD.

* Non-Native transfers refer to video shared across generations...Series2 to Series3 and vice versa.

Because the Series2 and Series3/TiVo HD platforms record in a slightly different MPEG format, some conversion is done during the transfer, making non-native transfers a bit slower.

Also, due to system resources, TiVo HD transfers are typically a bit slower at the moment. Speeding them up is something being investigated, but there is no additional information to share today.

There have been some reports of Series2 to Series2 transfers being slower than before, and we're investigating that as well. That is not intended or expected.

And yes, TiVoToComeBack (transferring video from your PC to your TiVo DVR) is supported, although HD content must have been originally recorded on a TiVo DVR to 'come back' as HD. HD content from other sources may be converted to SD and transferred to the DVR using TiVo Desktop Plus. Supporting HD transfers from the PC of non-TiVo content is being investigated.

Pony

[cwbaker]

Can someone help me troubleshoot this issue:

Tivo.com shows: Transfers Enabled
Tivo Software Version: 9.1.01-2-652
TiVoToGo: a,a,a
Tivo Desktop: 2.5.275381

I click on "Pick Recording to Transfer" in the Tivo Desktop and it responds with retrieving "1 of 38" and then after "11 of 38" I get the error message:

"There was an error while attempting to retrieve data from the selected DVR"

Network seems to be fine in contacting the Tivo service.

[TiVoPony]

Oh yeah, support for MRV/TTG is built into 9.1.

Support for the new eSATA drive and progressive downloads requires 9.2.

Pony

[pkscout]

TiVo announced that TTG and MRV go live today.

Make sure you have 9.2


http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/23/tivo-series3-and-hd-finally-get-tivotogo-mrv-esata-drive-othe/

You know, if you're going to post a link just to drive traffic to a blog for which you work, the least you could do is disclose that. :down:

[CrispyCritter]

S3, 9.1. I had to go to tivo.com and check the video sharing boxes. Immediate connection didn't turn on sharing (still i,i,i,), but waited 10 minutes and tried again. This time it worked; I had status a,a,a and everything looks good.

I have transferred shows from S2 to S3 and they play fine. I have checked from an S2 to the S3 and about half the shows are marked as non-transferrable and the rest are good - exactly as expected.

The S3 has my PC listed, with all of its shows listed, so it looks like TTCB is working, though I haven't transferred any shows yet.

[cr33p]

Oh, to set some expectations (I've mentioned this before, but will do so again here):

There are two 'types' of transfers - native and non-native. You won't see any reference in the UI to these terms, as it's rather techy, but so you know:

* Native transfers simply mean between like-generation platforms. Series2 to Series2. Series3 to Series3. Series3 to TiVo HD.

* Non-Native transfers refer to video shared across generations...Series2 to Series3 and vice versa.

Because the Series2 and Series3/TiVo HD platforms record in a slightly different MPEG format, some conversion is done during the transfer, making non-native transfers a bit slower.

Also, due to system resources, TiVo HD transfers are typically a bit slower at the moment. Speeding them up is something being investigated, but there is no additional information to share today.

There have been some reports of Series2 to Series2 transfers being slower than before, and we're investigating that as well. That is not intended or expected.

And yes, TiVoToComeBack (transferring video from your PC to your TiVo DVR) is supported, although HD content must have been originally recorded on a TiVo DVR to 'come back' as HD. HD content from other sources may be converted to SD and transferred to the DVR using TiVo Desktop Plus. Supporting HD transfers from the PC of non-TiVo content is being investigated.

Pony

Sweet :)

[jrm01]

My THD had Transfers Allowed, my S3 did not. I went in and changed that on Preferences, and now just waiting to get it updated in the box itself (still i,i,i). For those of you who have a,a,a, do you also have a DVR name on the box now?

[pkscout]

I'm so close I can taste it, but it's not quite working. I have 9.2, I checked the box, my TiVo has a,a,a for the status, but nothing works. If I go to the TiVo and check the Media Access Key in System Information, it says "media key temporarily unavailable." But if I go to the TiVo web site, it shows me a media access key.

Anyone else seeing that issue?

[generaltso]

MRV seems to be working, but my S3 boxes are still appearing nameless. Is there a trick to get the names that are set up in MMA to be forced down to the S3 boxes? Thanks Pony!

[brianlees]

And yes, TiVoToComeBack (transferring video from your PC to your TiVo DVR) is supported, although HD content must have been originally recorded on a TiVo DVR to 'come back' as HD. HD content from other sources may be converted to SD and transferred to the DVR using TiVo Desktop Plus. Supporting HD transfers from the PC of non-TiVo content is being investigated.

Pony

Confused - how can HD content get off a Series 3 in the first place? I thought TTG of HD content wasn't supported? Am I missing something?

[CrispyCritter]

My THD had Transfers Allowed, my S3 did not. I went in and changed that on Preferences, and now just waiting to get it updated in the box itself (still i,i,i). For those of you who have a,a,a, do you also have a DVR name on the box now?No, I'm still unnamed. My S3 just shows up as "DVR" from my S2s. though it's named "Frank" on tivo.com.

[cr33p]

Confused - how can HD content get off a Series 3 in the first place? I thought TTG of HD content wasn't supported? Am I missing something?

I assume HD content that hasnt been flagged copy never

[vstone]

I just checked one of my S2s and it can see my S3(I only checked the one so far). of course I can't actually transfer anything from my S3 as everything on it is HD. they even have a nifty little red symbolhttp://www.auroraoh.com/depts/svc/pgms/Programs/circle%20with%20line%20through%20it.gif that lets you know you can't transfer the programs.

wow, that little image is bigger than I thought.It also won't let you transfer a lot of SD stuff from cable channels.

[brianlees]

I assume HD content that hasnt been flagged copy never

I checked Tivos website (https://www3.tivo.com/mytivo/domore/tivotogo/windows.html). It says "Not yet available for Series3™ or TiVo HD". So, TTCB won't work for HD content.

[Arcady]

I can transfer HD content from local channels like NBC, CBS, etc. Everything I have recorded from HBO HD is not available for transfer, which is what I expected. Stupid, but expected.

[Chimpware]

Ok...

9.2, a,a,a on both Tivo HDs, in Program List I can see the other DVR as well as TTC server, but on both Tivos No Programs in program list for each other and the TTG server. Also trying to access TTG from PC does not work. On both Tivos under Media Access Key it shows Temporary Unavailable.

[brianlees]

Plus, I'm pretty pi**ed off that I have to buy a program (Toast) to get TTG to work on my Mac but it is free for Windows users. Although, I'm sure this has been beaten to death in the past here. I'm new to Tivo, so forgive me. I'll sit in my office pi**ed off for a few minutes alone and then I should be better.

[cwoody222]

Is the way for Mac users to use a browser to access their Now Playing list to directly download .tivo files to their desktop enabled too?

I realize once on the Mac those .tivo files are useless without the $80 TTG Mac software but it would be easier for me to use the browser to get the files, then moved them to a Windows machine than to have to use Windows to even download the files.

[cr33p]

I guess it kinda sux you cant transfer HD content via TTCB to an HD unit but I myself have no need for it, stuff takes up too much room on my servers anyhow. They probably have that set up to thwart pirating of movies and stuff. All of mine are in SD anyhow, be nice if it would upconvert them however :)

[George Cifranci]

It is working on mine. I posted about it a few hours ago...

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5623891&&#post5623891

[TroyB]

Tivo website says transfers enabled but when I click on DVR in the now playing list it says "The remote DVR has no recordings" both S3's say this. I can not see the others Now Playing list, and TTG says access denied. I even unchecked the boxes on tivos website, rechecked them and forced another connection but am still getting the same response, system information shows a,a,a.
Anybody know why?

[ADG]

We know with mismatched software that transfers should not work
Thanks. Just forced a connection on the new unit and it's installing a service release now (hopefully 9.2).

[demon]

I just woke up a few minutes ago, and discovered this thread. After going and enabling transfers, it took two connections to TiVo for the transfer status to flip to "a,a,a", then a few more minutes for the Media Access Key to show up. I'm now transferring a show via TiVoToGo - an HD show, even. Awesome. Thank you Pony, and thanks to everyone at TiVo!

[mercurial]

It is working on mine. I posted about it a few hours ago...

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5623891&&#post5623891

Yes, but that was hours after me...

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5623741&&#post5623741

:D :p

[demon]

Tivo website says transfers enabled but when I click on DVR in the now playing list it says "The remote DVR has no recordings" both S3's say this. I can not see the others Now Playing list, and TTG says access denied. I even unchecked the boxes on tivos website, rechecked them and forced another connection but am still getting the same response, system information shows a,a,a.
Anybody know why?

Did you provide the appropriate Media Access Keys? Your TiVo may take a few minutes to generate its MAK the first time, but you need to provide it for the TiVo to provide downloads of the stored shows.

[TroyB]

Did you provide the appropriate Media Access Keys? Your TiVo may take a few minutes to generate its MAK the first time, but you need to provide it for the TiVo to provide downloads of the stored shows.

On the Tivo's it says media access key is unavailable on tivo desktop I entered the Media Key on my account page.

[cr33p]

On the Tivo's it says media access key is unavailable on tivo desktop I entered the Media Key on my account page.
You have forced connections to get the certificates like Pony had said right?

[jrm01]

I have the Transfers working on all 3 boxes (S3, S2 and THD), but on the S3 it shows the following boxes:

"DVR" - which is my THD
"Bedroom" - which is my S2
"LAPTOP" - which is my PC

and also, "_tivo-videos DVR" - which appears to be a duplicate of my THD (exact same NPL)

Any idea where that name came from or why my THD shows up twice?

[TroyB]

You have forced connections to get the certificates like Pony had said right?

I have forced 4 connections on both S3's just tried it again still the same. Is everybody else showing something different than "media accrss key temporarily unavailable" when they select media access key on their Tivo's? :(

[jrm01]

Well all appears to be setup, but every thing that I try to transfer from THD to S3 fails saying it was recorded in an unknown format. This includes HD-cable, HD-OTA and analog-cable.

[ADG]

Yes, I also have "_tivo-videos DVR" listed and it is a duplicate of "DVR" (my second S3)

[jrm01]

I have forced 4 connections on both S3's just tried it again still the same. Is everybody else showing something different than "media accrss key temporarily unavailable" when they select media access key on their Tivo's? :(
My MA keys are correct on my S3 and THD.

[tivoknucklehead]

just did a S2 to S3 transfer remotely over my slingbox (very cool by the way) , worked great !


had to do a forced connection to Tivo on my S3 to "enable" it first

[String]

Can one transfer to Tivos not made by tivo. I.e. the Humax Tivo/DVD? Can you transfer to a Tivo that has a "Basic" service option? Can one transfer to a tivo that does not have active service subscription? Meaning the subscription runs out, and just use it as a media extender not as a regular tivo, per se.

[bdraw]

You know, if you're going to post a link just to drive traffic to a blog for which you work, the least you could do is disclose that. :down:

I didn't mean to drive traffic per say, just wanted people to believe me. I would have copied the text from the post, but the titles says it all and didn't think it added to the forum. Now that TiVoPony has chimed in, I deleted the link completely.

As for disclosure, I had the fact that I worked for Engadget HD in my sig, but someone removed it. No other forum removed that fact from my sig so I assumed it was forum rules.

[Sparty99]

Not sure if this belongs here, but if TTCB is now enabled on my Series 3 I can get rid of my D-Link Media Server. My only question is how do I get .AVI files onto the unit? Do I have to buy TiVo Desktop Plus or will a 3rd party program (Galleon?) support these files?

Sorry if this is the wrong place.

[azitnay]

Can one transfer to Tivos not made by tivo. I.e. the Humax Tivo/DVD? Can you transfer to a Tivo that has a "Basic" service option? Can one transfer to a tivo that does not have active service subscription? Meaning the subscription runs out, and just use it as a media extender not as a regular tivo, per se.

Yes, you can transfer SD content to Humax, Toshiba, etc. units.

No, you can't transfer anything to a unit running in TiVo Basic mode.

Drew

[ZeoTiVo]

Can one transfer to Tivos not made by tivo. I.e. the Humax Tivo/DVD? Can you transfer to a Tivo that has a "Basic" service option? Can one transfer to a tivo that does not have active service subscription? Meaning the subscription runs out, and just use it as a media extender not as a regular tivo, per se.
you have to pay to play
and yes, the OS is the same across HUMAX and other manufacturers

[Graymalkin]

Forced updates on the two TiVo HDs with 9.2 and restarted them. Both now have the Media Access Key and can see each other's recordings.

Only thing is, they're both connected to the same TV, so there won't be much transferring between them.

Toast Titanium still can't see them, either, so no TTG yet.

[Fab2004]

My tivo(dot)com page shows transfers allowed, my tivo's system settings shows a,a,a HOWEVER TivoDesktop (v 2.5) still cannot transfer.

There is a new section in my tivo menus that says: Media Access Key and that one says that my Media Access Key is "temporarily not available" (I tried connecting my tivo to the server a couple of times and nothing changed).

[azitnay]

Not sure if this belongs here, but if TTCB is now enabled on my Series 3 I can get rid of my D-Link Media Server. My only question is how do I get .AVI files onto the unit? Do I have to buy TiVo Desktop Plus or will a 3rd party program (Galleon?) support these files?

Sorry if this is the wrong place.

TiVo Desktop Plus is one way... But there are also free utilities such as TiVo.Net and pyTivo that do essentially the same thing.

You can also use any utility capable of transcoding to MPEG-2, such as Videora TiVo Converter, and then transfer via TiVo Desktop.

Drew

[cr33p]

Not sure if this belongs here, but if TTCB is now enabled on my Series 3 I can get rid of my D-Link Media Server. My only question is how do I get .AVI files onto the unit? Do I have to buy TiVo Desktop Plus or will a 3rd party program (Galleon?) support these files?

Sorry if this is the wrong place.

There are a few free option to transferring your avi's to the unit, you can use Tivo Desktop the standard version but need to pre convert the files, you can use Videora Tivo Converter. Or you can search around for a thread about PyTivo, this program will automatically transcode the files on the fly, rather than needing to pre transcode them with Videora. I prefer PyTivo myself

[mportuesi]

Is the way for Mac users to use a browser to access their Now Playing list to directly download .tivo files to their desktop enabled too?

I realize once on the Mac those .tivo files are useless without the $80 TTG Mac software but it would be easier for me to use the browser to get the files, then moved them to a Windows machine than to have to use Windows to even download the files.

Galleon is free, and I've used it in the past on the Mac to pull programs off the TiVo. Last time I tried Galleon, it was a pile of bugware, but it did transfer video files to and from the TiVo.

[thedarksavant]

Wow, my account already had Transfers Allowed :) Now to run downstairs and see if I have a shiny new 9.2.

[Sparty99]

There are a few free option to transferring your avi's to the unit, you can use Tivo Desktop the standard version but need to pre convert the files, you can use Videora Tivo Converter. Or you can search around for a thread about PyTivo, this program will automatically transcode the files on the fly, rather than needing to pre transcode them with Videora. I prefer PyTivo myself
I've used Videora pretty extensively. My problem is that when transcoding .avi files Videora always has a problem syncing the audio to the video (my experience, anyway). Am I going to have the same issues with PyTivo or Desktop Plus?

[Graymalkin]

My tivo(dot)com page shows transfers allowed, my tivo's system settings shows a,a,a HOWEVER TivoDesktop (v 2.5) still cannot transfer.

There is a new section in my tivo menus that says: Media Access Key and that one says that my Media Access Key is "temporarily not available" (I tried connecting my tivo to the server a couple of times and nothing changed).

Try restarting the TiVo -- that's what I had to do to activate the Media Access Key.

[ADG]

As asked above, any idea why there are two entries for S3 #2 in S3 #1 (the second entry is named "_tivo-videos DVR")? S3 #2 only has the one "DVR" entry for S3 #1.


Thanks.

[slimoli]

Everything was already setup with my system. Transferring a 2 hours HD movie to my PC , estimated time: 6 hours!! Time to upgrade to a "n" wireless network.

[ADG]

Also, if I want to watch .wmv movie files from my pc on the S3 will any of the above free software work or am I better off just spending the $25 for TiVo desktop plus? Thanks again :)

[sommerfeld]

You'll find that there is now a little checkbox on www.tivo.com/mma (http://www.tivo.com/mma) next to your Series3/TiVo HD systems that allows you to turn on video sharing for those systems. Right now for most of you that is likely unchecked...log into Manage My Account at the link above and check the box.
Thank you for remembering the preferences of those of us who snuck in sideways a few months back when the checkbox was prematurely enabled. :)

[Chimpware]

Excellent, now we can start the troubleshooting of this feature.

On both Tivos, similar to TroyB, I have "Media Access Key Temproarily Unavailable" on both Tivo HDs and no MRV, TTG or TTC.

I know, I know, "Be Patient", "They got it out early, so you should not expect it to work until November", but just once since I got these Tivo HDs I would like them to work properly when they are supposed to...

[MPAC]

:confused:

Ditto: Key Temporarily Unavailable. Tried to force connection several times and a reboot, but to no a a vale.

[cr33p]

I've used Videora pretty extensively. My problem is that when transcoding .avi files Videora always has a problem syncing the audio to the video (my experience, anyway). Am I going to have the same issues with PyTivo or Desktop Plus?

Well like any application it may or may not have problems, I like Pytivo and it has worked well for me, getting it up and running can be a headache sometimes but the folks over in that thread are pretty helpfull

[demon]

To those whose TiVos say "Media Access Key: not available", just be patient. It takes about 15-20 minutes for it to generate the key. I had the same thing happen at first on mine, but after waiting patiently (didn't have to restart), it appeared.

[pkscout]

To those whose TiVos say "Media Access Key: not available", just be patient. It takes about 15-20 minutes for it to generate the key. I had the same thing happen at first on mine, but after waiting patiently (didn't have to restart), it appeared.

I'll keep being patient, but it's been 5 hours (which last time I checked is longer than 15-20 minutes) since I got a,a,a on the status and still no media key. :(

[Chimpware]

To those whose TiVos say "Media Access Key: not available", just be patient. It takes about 15-20 minutes for it to generate the key. I had the same thing happen at first on mine, but after waiting patiently (didn't have to restart), it appeared.


I waited over 2 hours for the key to generate and still no joy. Also rebooted both Tivos and still no joy...

BTW does each Tivo generate a Key, or is it just the same key that is available from Tivo.com under Media Access Key?

[ADG]

I'll keep being patient, but it's been 5 hours (which last time I checked is longer than 15-20 minutes) since I got a,a,a on the status and still no media key. :(
Have you forced a reconnect? That's what I had to do.

[TroyB]

Have you forced a reconnect? That's what I had to do.

I agree I know I should be patient but it has been over 3 hours and I have forced so many connections Tivo has probably blocked me out.

[kas25]

I am a beginner to transferring shows between tivos. "Allow transfers" is checked on my account. What software do i need to install, if any? Where on the Tivo screen will this show up? Thank you.

[Chimpware]

I agree I know I should be patient but it has been over 3 hours and I have forced so many connections Tivo has probably blocked me out.

ROFL :D Me 2.

[Chimpware]

I am a beginner to transferring shows between tivos. "Allow transfers" is checked on my account. What software do i need to install, if any? Where on the Tivo screen will this show up? Thank you.

No software neede to transfer between Tivos, each Tivo will show up at the bottom of the others Now Playing List. To use TTG you need Tivo Desktop on your PC.

[pkscout]

Have you forced a reconnect? That's what I had to do.

I have forced about 20. And restarted twice.

[formulaben]

Update: Although Tivo.com shows Transfers Allowed after I set it in my Preferences, my Tivo HD, after multiple forced connections still shows i,i,i... with 9.2

EDIT: Tivo HD now shows a,a,a, but no TTG or TTC, just denies access.

Same here.

[JYoung]

This explains why TiVo's servers were down for maintenance last night.

Transfering from the Series 3 without issue.

[jrm01]

Anyone else having the problem of transfers halted due to "recorded in unknown format"? It's happening on my S3 => THD and THD => S3.

I'm still on 9.1 if that matters (waiting for priority 9.2).

[pkscout]

OK, apparently 20 forced connections is the magic number. ;)

I finally got a media access key and my TiVo has a name in the system preferences that matches what I put in on the TiVo web site.

[Graymalkin]

Now transferring from an S2 to an THD without any problems -- so far.

Just very slow -- and that's over a wired network.

[Adam1115]

You know, if you're going to post a link just to drive traffic to a blog for which you work, the least you could do is disclose that. :down:

If someone is coming over here to post something as earth shattering as MRV and TTG being turned on, I think a source link is expected.

I am thankful that he came over to post this news before we heard about it from TiVo or anyone else.

Thanks for the news bdraw, :up: :up: :up:

[sinanju]

I'm doing a transfer now. I'm moving a copy of NUMB3RS in HD -- 7,892MB. It's looking like the download will complete in 1.5 hours, maybe less. My S3 and laptop are wired into a 100MB switch.

Let me be the first to say that I'm more than a little surprised that tools we've all come to know and love work on the transfered recordings. 'nuff said.

[TroyB]

OK, apparently 20 forced connections is the magic number. ;)

I finally got a media access key and my TiVo has a name in the system preferences that matches what I put in on the TiVo web site.

Mine is showing up now also. Maybe Tivo is having to do something with everyones account for it to issue the key and they are sending it out in batches. I now have the Media Key showing up and also the name of the DVR in the System Information Screen.

[Dajad]

Testing now ...

- My S3 is still on 9.1 and it is happily transferring content from my S2 to the S3 and from the S3 to my S2 AT THE SAME TIME!!!. I'm going to love this. I have both TiVo's side-by-side. I don't intend to use them in multiple rooms. But I love the ability to "load balance" the system by moving my permanent recordings from the S2 to the much more capacious eSATA drive on my S3.

- When I went to TiVo's "Manage my accounts" page, the "Transfer Allowed" setting was already activated - I guess I must have clicked on that at some point in the past.

- AS with CrisypCritter, my S3 can see the name of my S2 ("Dale's Series 2), but not the other way around, my S2 just says "DVR" instead of "Dale's Series 3" as I have named it. But, it still works.

Update: I just noticed that in the "System Information" screen on my S3 it says "<Name this DVR on tivo.com> which is really odd because I have named it on TiVo.com, I named it on TiVo.com a long time ago and when I visit "Manage my Account" on TiVo.com it is properly named. I have just renamed my two TiVos to see if the new names take.

...Dale

[rileyrd]

I reset my transfer flag this morning at 8 am. A hour ago I went home for lunch and forced a connection on my HD.

Immediately afterward I could transfer from my PC running Tivo Desktop and Transfer from my S2 DT. Also was able to Transfer from HD to S2DT without problem.

The only issue I have is that the name on the HD is still not updated. The HD has been setup for two weeks and is running 9.2

[ldudek]

Patiently....kind of....waiting for Media Access Key.

I've got a.,a.,a. after forcing a call.

[Dajad]

Anyone know if TiVo-to-come back movies transferred from Mpeg4 / H.264 stay that way on the S3. I have copied my workout-videos to my S2 just a couple weeks ago. They are all in H.264. TiVo Desktop converted them to Mpeg2 while transferring to the S2 (obviously). I'd rather keep them in H.264 format and copy them to the S3 if the S3 has turned on its native support for H.264. Anyone know?

...Dale

[Stu_Bee]

Has someone tested PC -> S3 transfers yet? (I didn't see a test in this thread)
Did pyTivo work for you?

TTCB has been the main missing feature that's held me back from upgrading to an S3...nice to see it finally arrive!

[jrm01]

Well, I forced connections on both my S3 and THD and the correct name appeared for both machines in System Information, and my problem went away with "recorded in unknown format". Transfers are now working.

Interesting though, the names of the machines are proper in their own System Information, but they still show up with default names on the "remote NPL". Maybe it requires a restart to fix this.

[rodalpho]

TTG seems to work fine, except that my cable company marks almost everything "copy once" so I can't actually transfer anything I want to save. Haven't had a chance to look at TTCB yet. I just wish it supported HD and mpeg4.

[JYoung]

Has someone tested PC -> S3 transfers yet? (I didn't see a test in this thread)
Did pyTivo work for you?

TTCB has been the main missing feature that's held me back from upgrading to an S3...nice to see it finally arrive!


I just transferred a recording made with my Series 2 last year archived on my pc to my Series 3 without issue.

[ldudek]

TTG seems to work fine, except that my cable company marks almost everything "copy once" so I can't actually transfer anything I want to save. Haven't had a chance to look at TTCB yet. I just wish it supported HD and mpeg4.

If your cable company is doing that, that is illeagal. They do not have the right to make decisions about what is copy never, copy once. You should have TiVo talk to them.

[tivoknucklehead]

Everything was already setup with my system. Transferring a 2 hours HD movie to my PC , estimated time: 6 hours!! Time to upgrade to a "n" wireless network.


I have a Linksys draft n router and all G Tivo adapters and I just transferred a couple vid clips from my PC to my S3 in amazingly fast times. I'll have to do a speed test to see how fast

[ldudek]

Has someone tested PC -> S3 transfers yet? (I didn't see a test in this thread)
Did pyTivo work for you?

TTCB has been the main missing feature that's held me back from upgrading to an S3...nice to see it finally arrive!

I'm trying....My S3 still hasn't given me my MAK. I entered the one at TiVo.com but I guess it doesn't work until the S3 gets it too. :(

[jaydfwtx]

Attn Mac users. This works for me:

Tivo Decode Manager (google it, I can't post links yet)

I've only tried an SD program. I'm trying an HD broadcast program now.

The native mpeg2 transfers won't open in quicktime, but VLC works.

[Fab2004]

Restarting did the trick, but I had to do a hard reset (power cord off, wait 30 secs), because a soft reset (from Tivo Menu) didn't work.

Now I'm transfering a recording :-)

Try restarting the TiVo -- that's what I had to do to activate the Media Access Key.

[rodalpho]

If your cable company is doing that, that is illeagal. They do not have the right to make decisions about what is copy never, copy once. You should have TiVo talk to them.
No, it's not. Everything except for locals is marked copy once (0x02), not copy never (0x03).

[Stormspace]

This is good news and by the time it's been fully tested and vetted by S3 and HD owners I will have saved up for my own. :up: :up: :up:

[moyekj]

NOTE: For all those clamoring for Free Space Indicator, now utilities such as TivoPlayList (http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/c/dcahoe/tivo/index.htm) are now working for S3/THD units.

[ldudek]

What in the heck do I need to do to get "My Computer" to show up on the "now playing" list. Instructions say I need it to view my videos from computer. And yes, these are files that I should be able to view.

[Graymalkin]

First one-hour program transferred from S2 to THD, in about 45 minutes over a wired network. It was recorded at Best Quality.

Now timing one-hour program transfer #2 -- it's going slower than real time. :(

[classicsat]

Is the way for Mac users to use a browser to access their Now Playing list to directly download .tivo files to their desktop enabled too?

Yes. In fact any browser on any OS, with the appropriate security can pull the .tivo files.

I realize once on the Mac those .tivo files are useless without the $80 TTG Mac software but it would be easier for me to use the browser to get the files, then moved them to a Windows machine than to have to use Windows to even download the files.
You can do that web thing on Windows too, or use TiVoPlayList. Although I suspect the PC is where it cannot connect tot he Tivo, which you can download with the Mac and trasnfer to youe PC however.

[MickeS]

I seem to get a little better speed on TTG from my Series 3 than from my Series 2. Transferring "Heroes" in HD from last night right now, and it's at about 1500 kB/sec so far.... this will take about 75 minutes I think.

[MickeS]

By the way the "letterbox on 16:9 TV" bug seems to be there on the Series 3 for TTCB content, based on my limited testing this morning. Disappointing.

[cptodd]

I have achieved "Tripple A" status and put my media access key into my "TiVo Transfer" program that came with Toast but my TiVo still does not show up in the "TiVo Transfer" program. I wonder what I am doing wrong?

p.s. I did go online and put checks in the appropriate boxes at TiVo.com


EDIT: Do I need the TiVo desktop software?

[ldudek]

No, it's not. Everything except for locals is marked copy once (0x02), not copy never (0x03).

I just transfered a show from "Court TV" over. So no, not everything except locals is copy once. Maybe you mean every HD except locals. I'll double check that.

In the meantime guys, please tell me how to get the "My Computer" on the now playing list! What does it take?

[aaronwt]

I seem to get a little better speed on TTG from my Series 3 than from my Series 2. Transferring "Heroes" in HD from last night right now, and it's at about 1500 kB/sec so far.... this will take about 75 minutes I think.

Only a 12mbs transfer speed?

[sinanju]

Only a 12mbs transfer speed?

It appears transfer times improve a bit if you are playing a recording. I had that speed, then it shot up to about 16mbps when I was watching a recording of The Daily Show during lunch.

[mikesay98]

I don't get it. I'm transferring an episode of Jay Leno (HD) from my S3 to my PC (1 hour show) and it's telling me the estimated time is around 3.5 hours. It shouldn't be taking this long! Sure, I'm on wireless, and the network is wireless B, but that should be plenty fast to transfer at a high speed. Also, the router and TiVo are both in my room, so the signal quality isn't in question. I have the TiVo wireless adapter, so it shouldn't be a question of compatibility. My computer is fairly new and the specs are great. I just don't understand this!! :mad:

[tivoknucklehead]

Using a draft N wireless Linksys router and a "G" Tivo adapter at a distance of about 70 feet I transferred a 40 mb MPEG vid clip to my S3 in 29 seconds.
Also, a 210 mb clip (10 minutes, ten seconds long) in 2 minutes 52 seconds
This is the equivalent of a 60 minute show in about 12-15 minutes. I am very happy with that transfer speed

[wazooda]

Sorry as this is probably a dumb question... but I am unclear if this is possible:

Is it possible to xfer HD content from my PC to my S3 for viewing? I have TONS of home video I've shot with my Sony HD VideoCam that I am currently streaming with a Avel Linkplayer 2. I would LOVE to remove the Linkplayer and only use my Tivo. I can transcode it into any format (divx, H264, etc.) Would using PyTivo or a similar program work for HD?

[Graymalkin]

Thanks for the tip on TiVoDecode Manager! Now downloading the "Pushing Daisies" pilot in HD to my iMac. Looks like it'll take about 2 hours (2x real time).

[MickeS]

Sorry as this is probably a dumb question... but I am unclear if this is possible:

Is it possible to xfer HD content from my PC to my S3 for viewing? I have TONS of home video I've shot with my Sony HD VideoCam that I am currently streaming with a Avel Linkplayer 2. I would LOVE to remove the Linkplayer and only use my Tivo. I can transcode it into any format (divx, H264, etc.) Would using PyTivo or a similar program work for HD?
It was in the first post in the thread. ;)

And yes, TiVoToComeBack (transferring video from your PC to your TiVo DVR) is supported, although HD content must have been originally recorded on a TiVo DVR to 'come back' as HD. HD content from other sources may be converted to SD and transferred to the DVR using TiVo Desktop Plus. Supporting HD transfers from the PC of non-TiVo content is being investigated.

[MickeS]

Only a 12mbs transfer speed?
Yep. It's on a wireless G network with the Series 3 connected with ethernet to a WLAN extender.

Still about 50% better than the transfers from the Series2 connected the same way.

[tootal2]

I get this while it is downloading program list from my tivo hd. It gets to about program 41 of 97 then this happens

there was an error while attempting to retrieve data from the selected dvr

how can i fix this?

[ncbagwell]

My Series 3 updated to 9.2 but my other Series 2 Tivos are still on 9.1xxx. Do I have to wait for all of the Series 2s to update in order to get MRV working? It isn't right now and I've forced connections and restarted on all 4 Tivos.

[ldudek]

I have an .avi file of Boston Legal that has been sitting in the "My TiVo Recordings" folder forever. I took it out and put it back in but it won't appear on my "Now Playing List."

Any ideas?

[wazooda]

It was in the first post in the thread. ;)

Doh! Missed that. :o

That feature, personally, is my Holy Grail.

I hope that someone figures out a way to do it.

[Raymond Day]

I went to name my TiVo HD at Tivo.com and seen it had the check box on it all ready for transfers. I did a connect to TiVo last was like 3 am. I did the connect at about 1:30 pm. It did it fast and I tested TiVo Desktop and it can list it's shows now. I went to test is wit the "Welcome and the Basics" that came with it but Transfer Status says "interrupted" I guess because the TiVo HD is recording one show as I am doing the transfer.

Are they going to fix it so when the TiVo HD is in stand by the record LED's will be on? They don't turn on even when you set it to all light on.

-Raymond Day

[Sadara]

I haven't had the chance to "test" out the transfers yet. However, over lunch I did check my Tivo and it does have the ability to transfer. I'll check it out later.

[tivoknucklehead]

I have an .avi file of Boston Legal that has been sitting in the "My TiVo Recordings" folder forever. I took it out and put it back in but it won't appear on my "Now Playing List."

Any ideas?

you have to look in the "PC named xxx" Folder in Now Playing for that and all your files located on your PC

[chrishicks]

NOTE: For all those clamoring for Free Space Indicator, now utilities such as TivoPlayList (http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/c/dcahoe/tivo/index.htm) are now working for S3/THD units.
OT but is anyone else having trouble getting the ftp site to open?

[mae]

Great to have this working, but it does bring out a problem with the way my cable provider (Comcast-Howard County, MD) has the CCI for all channels except the OTA feeds set to 0x02, so they can't be transferred.

From what I've read here, shouldn't that only be applied to the premium channels, like HBO and not the basic cable channels like TNT, USA or Food Network?

Is this an FCC issue or can the provider set these at will?

[ivyvine420]

Thank you for remembering the preferences of those of us who snuck in sideways a few months back when the checkbox was prematurely enabled. :)


Hah, that's what I did months ago and then it was disabled. I totally forgot about it, and so I went to go and "enable" transfers for my S3 and it was already done for me. Very convenient. I don't have 9.2 yet, but when I woke up and turned on my TV to check both LR tivos (S2 and S3) for updates (to 9.2), I saw the a,a,a and totally flipped. I wasn't expecting it 'til Nov, and not until after 9.2 at least.

Hee. S3 is showing my Media Access Key, now just need to get my S3 to show up on other Tivos under Now Playing...

Hopefully it's doing that right now with my manual forced connections to all 3 Tivos we have.

[MickeS]

I have an .avi file of Boston Legal that has been sitting in the "My TiVo Recordings" folder forever. I took it out and put it back in but it won't appear on my "Now Playing List."

Any ideas?
The regular TiVo Desktop can not play .avi files, it only plays MPEG-2 files. TiVo Desktop Plus or pyTiVo will allow you to select .avi files to play.

[sammydee]

I got 9.2 last night and I was still listed as i,i,i on my Series3.

Whoa, spoke too soon... on TiVo.com my S3 is now showing "Transferred ALLOWED" :)

Now I just gotta get my new Intel iMac (next week) so I can install Windows. Because I refuse to pay for something on my Mac that Windows users get for free.

Um...don't forget that you'll have to purchase a full copy of Windows for that Mac.

[MickeS]

The "Heroes" HD transfer took almost exactly 75 minutes (for a 64 minute recording). Not too bad.

Now I just need to figure out how to play it... both Media Player Classic and WMP crash when I try and play the file.

I hope this isn't related to the fact that I transferred using Galleon.

Ah... the error was because I didn't have TiVo Desktop installed. Plays fine now. Yay. :)

[Goober96]

OT but is anyone else having trouble getting the ftp site to open?
Yes, I was unable to download it. Does someone have a link to this software that works?

[ivyvine420]

BTW does each Tivo generate a Key, or is it just the same key that is available from Tivo.com under Media Access Key?


Yes, it just gives you the same MAK for each of your Tivos (it is basically the MAK for your Tivo account), but while you may already know what that MAK is, you have to wait for the Tivos to (individually) connect and get that certificate that shows it it can do the transfers and MRV etc, so it doesn't really help you out, you still have to wait for that to happen.

Forcing all your Tivo Units to connect should help speed this up, but today also seems like its going to be a VERY busy Tivo Server day and that will slow things down.

It does make it easier when using programs that need the MAK (Tivo Desktop and others) because it will already be inputted the MAK (if you have used the program(s) before with a Series 2) and you can just go ahead and do whatever it is you want, without the installing of applications and finding and entering in the Media Access Key hassle.

[oldnacl]

From the reports of the average transfer speed, I'm beginning to wonder what all the excitement is about. In the same amount of time I can burn a DVD from a TiVo show and take it anywhere. On the other hand, my ReplayTV will let me watch something from another room in real time (in SD, of course). What will I gain buying another TiVo HD and subscription that I don't already have? It sounds like most of the HD shows will be disabled - I don't watch much commercial TV - mostly Discovery HD, HBO and the like. I was enthused at first, even have a second TiVoHD in my amazon shopping cart, but now I'm wondering.
A benefit I could see, for example,would be to finish watching a show in the bedroom that you started in the living room. If I have to wait an hour for the show to transfer, I'd be asleep or would just finish watching it in the living room.

[Neenahboy]

TiVoDecode Manager isn't working for me. It sees the Now Playing list, but stalls at 0.07% when I try to download last night's Chuck. It tries to resume three separate times, gets to 0.07% each time, then finally cancels the download. An SD recording (today's Price is Right) doesn't even get that far.

Hope it starts working, or I'm screwed till I get an Intel Mac for TiVoDesktop. Like cwoody222, I absolutely refuse to pay for TT8.

[MickeS]

From the reports of the average transfer speed, I'm beginning to wonder what all the excitement is about. In the same amount of time I can burn a DVD from a TiVo show and take it anywhere.

If you burn a lot of DVDs, TTG is NOT the way to go for archiving to DVD. A standalone burner or a TiVo with burner are much better alternatives. But if you only do it occasionally, TTG is an inexpensive solution, provided you already have a computer and a network.


A benefit I could see, for example,would be to finish watching a show in the bedroom that you started in the living room. If I have to wait an hour for the show to transfer, I'd be asleep or would just finish watching it in the living room.

I think for HD the appeal is definitely limited due to transfer speeds, but archiving is still a good use for it. Also, HD MRV should be near realtime, so except for the example above, it might work pretty good when you just want to watch a show from the beginning.

[Laserfan]

My gosh, everything seems to have been set for my S3 today--Transfers ALLOWED, a Media Access Key, a,a,a/Name is back, etc. But... I need something called TivotoGo for Windows? Their web page says "not for S3" do I ignore that and pay the $25 bucks? What's TTG+?

Confused about what to buy to make this work--or are there any freeware alternatives?

Sorry but I'm an old S1 guy... :confused:

[MickeS]

My gosh, everything seems to have been set for my S3 today--Transfers ALLOWED, a Media Access Key, a,a,a/Name is back, etc. But... I need something called TivotoGo for Windows? Their web page says "not for S3" do I ignore that and pay the $25 bucks? What's TTG+?

Confused about what to buy to make this work--or are there any freeware alternatives?

Sorry but I'm an old S1 guy... :confused:
You need to download the free TiVo Desktop from the TiVo site. For basic functionality, that's about it.

If you want to do more stuff, you can buy TiVo Desktop Plus or use free alternatives like Galleon, Videora TiVo Converter and/or pyTiVo.

/Mike

[jrm01]

A benefit I could see, for example,would be to finish watching a show in the bedroom that you started in the living room. If I have to wait an hour for the show to transfer, I'd be asleep or would just finish watching it in the living room.
You don't have to wait an hour for the transfer to complete. You can start watching while it is transferring. You just need to build up a buffer before you begin. Start the transfer, close the doors, clean up the mess in the Living Room, turn off the lights downstairs, change into jammies, brush your teeth and it should be ready for you to finish watching.

However, it would be nice if you could push the transfer to the bedroom instead of having to go up there and pull it in.

[Chimpware]

Yes, it just gives you the same MAK for each of your Tivos (it is basically the MAK for your Tivo account), but while you may already know what that MAK is, you have to wait for the Tivos to (individually) connect and get that certificate that shows it it can do the transfers and MRV etc, so it doesn't really help you out, you still have to wait for that to happen.

Forcing all your Tivo Units to connect should help speed this up, but today also seems like its going to be a VERY busy Tivo Server day and that will slow things down.

It does make it easier when using programs that need the MAK (Tivo Desktop and others) because it will already be inputted the MAK (if you have used the program(s) before with a Series 2) and you can just go ahead and do whatever it is you want, without the installing of applications and finding and entering in the Media Access Key hassle.

Thanks, multiple (around 15) connections eventually got it all working.

[mae]

I transferred an SD program to my PC using Desktop, but there's no audio in either Windows Media Player or Media Center. Am I doing something wrong or do I need to change a setting or add a CODEC?

Thanks.

[Cheap Flyer]

I downloaded a HD tv show to my Vista PC and the video will not play. I can scroll thru and see the static frames, but it won't play. Sounds like a codec issue. Any ideas?

[Graymalkin]

TiVoDecode Manager successfully stored HD content on my iMac -- but VLC 0.8c has trouble with the audio playback. What other applications can playback this MPEG-2 file?

Also, TiVoDecode Manager's MPEG-4 requires some manual settings if you don't want the 640-by-480 default. Anyone know what these should be for optimizing HD content?

[ldudek]

The regular TiVo Desktop can not play .avi files, it only plays MPEG-2 files. TiVo Desktop Plus or pyTiVo will allow you to select .avi files to play.

OK, that explains it. Thank you.

[cptodd]

Ok stupid question but I THINK I know what the problem is. My TiVo does not appear on my network however it is able to get online and do updates. It is connected via TiVo's wireless thingy but neither Toast's "TiVo Transfer" app nor the Window's app can see the machine. Should I connect it via ethernet and see if that works?

[ckelly33]

The TiVO Desktop (2.5) that is downloadable from TiVo.com clearly states it is not yet available for Series3™ or TiVo HD. Is there another version that will "Officially" match the HD versions?

[cr33p]

The TiVO Desktop (2.5) that is downloadable from TiVo.com clearly states it is not yet available for Series3™ or TiVo HD. Is there another version that will "Officially" match the HD versions?

People have said that the standard free Tivo Desktop is working fine right now. Not sure why the 2.5 wouldnt but, I would rather not pay for something I can obtain for free I.E. Pytivo or Tivo.net

[cwoody222]

Also, if I want to watch .wmv movie files from my pc on the S3 will any of the above free software work or am I better off just spending the $25 for TiVo desktop plus? Thanks again :)

Whoa... TiVo PLUS lets you watch .wmv movies natively? Does it stream or does it convert on the fly or what?

I guess I'm gonna have to re-educate myself with TTG and ComeBack and 3rd party solutions. I've been only with a S3 for a year and only ever had a Mac before that so lots of solutions I've either forgot about or are new to me.

[richsadams]

Thanks for the info Pony!

Visited our TiVo MMA page and it showed all our TiVo's "Transfers Allowed" already, convenient. :up:

The Accnt. Info screen on our S3 still showed "i,i,i" so I forced a network connection. Subsequently it showed "a,a,a". It also added the name of our TiVo (instead of "name your TiVo...). :up:

TiVo Desktop recognized our S3. However when I clicked on "Pick Recordings to Transfer" it started adding shows, got to 11 of 148, then gave the error notice (below). I closed TiVo Desktop and repopened it and the same thing, except it got to 43 of 148 and gave the error. So I kept opening and closing TiVo Desktop and it finally listed all of the recordings. :confused: Odd but it worked.

So for anyone seeing this:

http://i24.tinypic.com/2qktao1.jpg

You might try opening and closing TiVo Desktop repeatedly until it reads all of the recording files.

Otherwise everything looks great. I haven't tried transferring any programs yet but will do so later and report back if there are any issues.

Thanks again! :up:

[cwoody222]

Um...don't forget that you'll have to purchase a full copy of Windows for that Mac.

I have a copy I can use.

[cwoody222]

The regular TiVo Desktop can not play .avi files, it only plays MPEG-2 files. TiVo Desktop Plus or pyTiVo will allow you to select .avi files to play.

I use ffmpeg to turn those avi files into TiVo-playable MPEG-2's. Easy.

[eDbolson]

OT but is anyone else having trouble getting the ftp site to open?
(Referring to the "TiVoPlayList" application.)
It looks to me like that page was hijacked. The source shows an extremely garbled address for the links and a hard-coded ftp site address. Probably is supposed to trip some holes in security on one or another browser.

[sfhub]

Anyone else having the problem of transfers halted due to "recorded in unknown format"? It's happening on my S3 => THD and THD => S3.

I'm still on 9.1 if that matters (waiting for priority 9.2).
Yes, have the same problem. Post #9 (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5623995&&#post5623995) on this thread.

[MickeS]

I use ffmpeg to turn those avi files into TiVo-playable MPEG-2's. Easy.
That's what pyTiVo uses too, to convert files "on the fly".

[Chimpware]

I use ffmpeg to turn those avi files into TiVo-playable MPEG-2's. Easy.

I use VisualHub, six of one...

You might want to check out this post to enable TTC on Mac:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=298090&page=1&pp=30

[Sparty99]

That's what pyTiVo uses too, to convert files "on the fly".
Alright, I've installed what I think is pyTiVo, but my Series 2 doesn't seem to recognize it. Any assistance? It may very well be above my head.

[Martin Tupper]

I have an .avi file of Boston Legal that has been sitting in the "My TiVo Recordings" folder forever. I took it out and put it back in but it won't appear on my "Now Playing List."

Any ideas?
You have to spring for TiVoDesktop Plus to transfer .avi files onto your TiVo

[jrm01]

Yes, have the same problem. Post #9 (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5623995&&#post5623995) on this thread.
I forced another connection for each box, got the proper box name in the System Info page, and now all transfers are working fine. Not sure what that had to do with anything, but it worked.

[angel35]

My THD had Transfers Allowed, my S3 did not. I went in and changed that on Preferences, and now just waiting to get it updated in the box itself (still i,i,i). For those of you who have a,a,a, do you also have a DVR name on the box now?

NO. No names ,numbers :down:

[Joybob]

It appears that Windows Media Player shows the length of TV shows incorrectly when viewing .tivo files.

[SugarBowl]

Does the Now Playing web site work now for Series 3's ?

[pkscout]

Also, TiVoDecode Manager's MPEG-4 requires some manual settings if you don't want the 640-by-480 default. Anyone know what these should be for optimizing HD content?

For 720p I would think 1280x720 with a bitrate of 5,900 (yikes!) to maintain basically full resolution.

For 1080i I'm not sure how to calculate that exactly. It could be 1920x1080 with a bitrate of either 12,000 (double yikes) or 6,200. That depends on how you're suppose to count the fact that 1080i is interlaced. Or it could be 960x540 with a bitrate of 3,100 (that basically takes the 1080i and makes it 540p).

See, easy as pie. ;)

[eDbolson]

Does the Now Playing web site work now for Series 3's ?
On my Mac, I went to https://<tivoaddress from Bonjour>/nowplaying/index.html
Put in username "tivo" and password the media access key.

Got my Now Playing List.
Had both "folder" and "download" buttons. When I pressed "download", it worked! (asked again for the login, then started transferring).
I don't know if I can do uploads, but will check with Tivo Desktop for Mac with the video tab enabled after I get the download.

[Islanti]

From the reports of the average transfer speed, I'm beginning to wonder what all the excitement is about. I'm able to transfer an HD show from Tivo HD to Tivo HD more or less real time over my home wireless network. I'm just barely behind the stream, so no skipping commercials. With a "clean up delay" :D as was described earlier I'm sure it'll be fine.

I am able to transfer SD shows very quickly so the delay isn't an issue there.

[MickeS]

Alright, I've installed what I think is pyTiVo, but my Series 2 doesn't seem to recognize it. Any assistance? It may very well be above my head.
Check out this thread in the Home Media Features section.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=328459

[bdraw]

What do you do if the info page shows a,a,a but you get a 403 when you go to that URL? The regular TiVo page works via port 80.

[oldnacl]

You don't have to wait an hour for the transfer to complete. You can start watching while it is transferring. You just need to build up a buffer before you begin. Start the transfer, close the doors, clean up the mess in the Living Room, turn off the lights downstairs, change into jammies, brush your teeth and it should be ready for you to finish watching.

However, it would be nice if you could push the transfer to the bedroom instead of having to go up there and pull it in.
Ah, that's what I get for being a newbie. Thanks for answering my query!

[MickeS]

What do you do if the info page shows a,a,a but you get a 403 when you go to that URL? The regular TiVo page works via port 80.
Did you use https://blahblah... and not http://blahblah... ?

[cwoody222]

Don't have time to play much but just FYI: I got 9.2 yesterday (forced a call, signed up for Priority last Friday). I was still i,i,i

I forced a call when I got home from work tonight and was set to a,a,a I made sure I had "Transfers Allowed" today on tivo.com while I was at work.

I was able to access the Now Playing list with my browser, on my Mac. So, it seems I'm all set up.

I'll have to give ComeBack a try later. I still have a bunch of .mpegs that I made myself from files downloaded from the 'net from over a year ago when I had my S2.

So far, so good.

Can't test download speed right now.

[oo7plyr]

Does Comeback support AVI from a Mac?

[cwoody222]

No, there's no support for .avi on the Mac. You need to pay $25 for Windows ToGo Plus for that. However, I use ffmpegX to translate those .avi files to TiVo-playable .mpeg files no problem.

I did just enable ComeBack in my Mac Sys Pref (hold down Apple key while starting up TiVo in your System Preferences) and within seconds my Mac folder (with nothing in it, which was correct) showed up in Now Playing.

[oo7plyr]

I should also ask what are the supported file formats for ComeBack. I've only got an mpg to work.

[Blahman]

For 720p I would think 1280x720 with a bitrate of 5,900 (yikes!) to maintain basically full resolution.

For 1080i I'm not sure how to calculate that exactly. It could be 1920x1080 with a bitrate of either 12,000 (double yikes) or 6,200. That depends on how you're suppose to count the fact that 1080i is interlaced. Or it could be 960x540 with a bitrate of 3,100 (that basically takes the 1080i and makes it 540p).

See, easy as pie. ;)


Correction to your statement. 1080i is not 960x540. It is still 1920. 1920x540.

[bkdtv]

I should also ask what are the supported file formats for ComeBack. I've only got an mpg to work.If you have the free version of Tivo Desktop, only .Tivo and .MPG files are supported.

Other file formats are supported, but you need Tivo Desktop Plus ($25). That converts all files to MPG "on the fly" for transfer to the Tivo.

[chipvideo]

Is it possible to now get some HD calibration patterns on the tivo now?

[HDTiVo]

The foundation has been there even before 9.1. It was controlled by the account status flags that you download. 9.2 probably has all the latest bug fixes so it is advisable to have (thought it has its own issues as well)
I was able to use TTC to transfer a program from my PC to my newest TiVoHD which is still running 8.1...

Apparently transfers have been enabled regardless of the OS version you are still running. :up:

[ldudek]

I was able to use TTC to transfer a program from my PC to my newest TiVoHD which is still running 8.1...

Apparently transfers have been enabled regardless of the OS version you are still running. :up:

About 4 or 5 pages ago Pony confirmed that.

[bkdtv]

Screenshot attached for those that want to see it in action.

[MickeS]

Screenshot attached for those that want to see it in action.
My recording of "Heroes" is only 6,456MB. :( I hate my cable company...

[Carsten]

Trying MRV but it doesnt work.

I got 1 S3 and 1 THD. I can see both units on each unit however if I transfer it fails...

Just rebooted both...about to tryin again.

[jmagilto]

Thank you TIVO - this has been a much awaited restoration of functionality. Mine is working perfectly.

:)

[MickeS]

Is it possible to now get some HD calibration patterns on the tivo now?
Not yet - no PC-to-TiVo transfer of HD content yet.

[richsadams]

My recording of "Heroes" is only 6,456MB. :( I hate my cable company...Mine is 7,026...better but not best. :mad:

[Carsten]

Trying MRV but it doesnt work.

I got 1 S3 and 1 THD. I can see both units on each unit however if I transfer it fails...

Just rebooted both...about to tryin again.

S3 is 9.2 and HD is 9.1

Is that the issue??

Just testing TTG and it works of the 9.1 but not the S3 9.2

[TiVo Fool]

Support for the new eSATA drive and progressive downloads requires 9.2.

PonySo does that mean the Series 2 platform won't get progressive downloads, or that coming in a later release?

[Hyrax]

On a whim I loaded a HD .tivo file from my PC into VideoReDo Plus. It read it in, allows me to edit it, and write out a MPG file.

From the MPG file, I was able to create a HD DVD 3X disk (a HD DVD written to a DL DVD) that plays fine on my HD DVD player.

Yes, this is a little time consuming, but is a perfect way to timeshift all those shows I mean to watch 'when I have the time'. No more do I need to buy massive external storage.

[Sparty99]

Well, I've got everything up and running and was able to transfer a movie from my Series 3 to my laptop, but ComeBack doesn't seem to be working. Both units recognize each other, but the Series 3 doesn't find my desktop (where all of my media files are kept) on the network. I've got the server running, I've restarted the S3 several times, and I've disabled and re-enabled the home network options. I am still running 9.1.

Any advice? Am I missing something?

[Chimpware]

Not yet - no PC-to-TiVo transfer of HD content yet.

Not entirely true, I was able to upload an HD MPEG-2 file from my Mac that I created from a home movie from my HD camcorder.

[greg_burns]

(Referring to the "TiVoPlayList" application.)
It looks to me like that page was hijacked. The source shows an extremely garbled address for the links and a hard-coded ftp site address. Probably is supposed to trip some holes in security on one or another browser.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5622662&&#post5622662

His ftp site is always down it seems.

[HDTiVo]

About 4 or 5 pages ago Pony confirmed that.
Care to show where he said that transfers would work if you are running 8.1 or that the version did not affect whether transfers are on? :rolleyes:

I was able to use TTC to transfer a program from my PC to my newest TiVoHD which is still running 8.1...

Apparently transfers have been enabled regardless of the OS version you are still running. :up:


Oh yeah, support for MRV/TTG is built into 9.1.

Support for the new eSATA drive and progressive downloads requires 9.2.

Pony

[aaronwt]

All my boxes have the correct name in the system info screen but on the now playing list they all say DVR. Does it just take time for the names to show up? The boxes have been named on TiVo.com for a long time.

[HDTiVo]

My recording of "Heroes" is only 6,456MB. :( I hate my cable company...
Mine is 5,850. :eek:

[TiivoDog]

All my boxes have the correct name in the system info screen but on the now playing list they all say DVR. Does it just take time for the names to show up? The boxes have been named on TiVo.com for a long time.

I am also annoyed with the same issue. My one S3 unit remains to be called 'DVR', as well and I also changed the name of one of my S2 units today, however it refuses to update the unit for some reason... :mad:

[aaronwt]

Does the pay version of TiVo Desktop transfer any faster. I'm transfering now from a TiVoHD and it's only transferring to the PC at 7mbs.
I can transfer PC to PC at over 200mbs.

[pkscout]

My recording of "Heroes" is only 6,456MB. :( I hate my cable company...

7.37gb of OTA goodness here. :p

(that does include one minute of padding)

[bdraw]

My recording of "Heroes" is only 6,456MB. :( I hate my cable company...


That's not that bad, 9.1GB/hr is the max, but anything other than fast moving sports will never use that much.

I captured OTA and my local NBC affiliate multi-casts and the 10/22/07 episode is 7.82GB, maybe you're right.

What's really bad is I recorded a 2 hour movie (the Illusionist) off Starz HD and it was only 6GB!! Now that's bad.

[bdraw]

Did you use https://blahblah... and not http://blahblah... ?

Yeah in fact I used the exact same URL as I did with my other Series3 that works, except I changed the last octet of the IP of course. I guess I'll force another call and another reboot even though it says a,a,a.

[aaronwt]

My recording of "Heroes" is only 6,456MB. :( I hate my cable company...

OTA was 7.29GB here and FIOS was 7.51GB and Comcast was 7.61GB.
I don't know why Comcast and FIOS is more than the OTA broadcast.

[jrm01]

All my boxes have the correct name in the system info screen but on the now playing list they all say DVR. Does it just take time for the names to show up? The boxes have been named on TiVo.com for a long time.
Both of my boxes (S3 and THD) had the name in the Info screen about 2:00 today. My THD finally recognized the correct name for the S3 about 5:00. The S3 still shows the default name (DVR) for the THD. Also, the S3 also shows a duplicate list for the THD called "_Tivo-videos DVR". I have transferred from the default DVR list and from the _Tivo-videos DVR list and they both work. Strange.

[aaronwt]

Both of my boxes (S3 and THD) had the name in the Info screen about 2:00 today. My THD finally recognized the correct name for the S3 about 5:00. The S3 still shows the default name (DVR) for the THD. Also, the S3 also shows a duplicate list for the THD called "_Tivo-videos DVR". I have transferred from the default DVR list and from the _Tivo-videos DVR list and they both work. Strange.

I have that _Tivo-videos in 3 of my boxes. In those boxes I have 4 DVRs listed plus the _Tivo-videos, so I don't know what it is from. I should only have 4 boxes showing up. I guess it will sort itself out overnight.

[George Cifranci]

Either TivoJerry or TivoPony said that they were going to fix the Series 3 naming problem in November.

[jrm01]

I have that _Tivo-videos in 3 of my boxes. In those boxes I have 4 DVRs listed plus the _Tivo-videos, so I don't know what it is from. I should only have 4 boxes showing up. I guess it will sort itself out overnight.
You can compare the NPL of the weird box to your other boxes to determine which one is duplicated. FWIW.

[aaronwt]

You can compare the NPL of the weird box to your other boxes to determine which one is duplicated. FWIW.

I think it's the TiVo desktop since it didn't show any titles.

[owenc]

anyone else having trouble getting your computer to show up in the now playing Tivo folder?

I am sharing my music and pictures just fine, so its not some connectivity issue with tivo desktop. any ideas?

[sfhub]

Trying MRV but it doesnt work.

I got 1 S3 and 1 THD. I can see both units on each unit however if I transfer it fails...

Just rebooted both...about to tryin again.
Have you TiVo's connect to the servers again. Sometimes even though you have a,a,a something isn't setup correctly and you will get the unrecognized format error. I had the same problem, connected a few hours later, and everything was fixed.

[jhimmel]

anyone else having trouble getting your computer to show up in the now playing Tivo folder?

I am sharing my music and pictures just fine, so its not some connectivity issue with tivo desktop. any ideas?

Mine works. Did you try putting a video file in the video folder? Maybe it needs a file there for it to show up?

[reub]

Trying MRV but it doesnt work.

I got 1 S3 and 1 THD. I can see both units on each unit however if I transfer it fails...

Just rebooted both...about to tryin again.
Same here. Trying to pull a show from my S3 to my THD. Haven't tried the opposite yet.
It's really frustrating to not see it working after all this waiting. Perhaps we should start a separate thread to track this error?

"There was a problem transferring the requested program to this DVR. To view which programs won't be transferred and why, go to TiVo Central and select "Find Programs" > "To Do List" > "View Recording History".

When I do that, I see:

<Program>: <Episode> from Series 3 (transfer attempted on 10/23/07 at 8:55pm)
This program was not transferred onto this DVR because the program was recorded in an unknown format.

Arrgh!

[owenc]

Mine works. Did you try putting a video file in the video folder? Maybe it needs a file there for it to show up?

nope thats not it, got plenty of stuff in my tivo video folder. also tivo to go seems to work fine, i can connect to my tivo with no problem, maybe i just need to wait and hopefully it will pop up?

[jhimmel]

nope thats not it, got plenty of stuff in my tivo video folder. also tivo to go seems to work fine, i can connect to my tivo with no problem, maybe i just need to wait and hopefully it will pop up?

Maybe - I did notice on mine all kinds of things that seemed "broken" at first, and they all worked themselves out over time. Such as -
My Bedroom TiVo could see my LivingRoom TiVo, but not the other way around.
My PC showed up on one, but not the other at first.
TiVo Desktop transferred from my Bedroom, but listed LivingRoom as unsupported.
Both TiVo's (S3's) listed the other as simply "DVR".

All of those little issues and more simply ironed themselves out as the thing eventually got fully up to operational status.

Hopefully the same will happen to the rest of the users here with similar issues.

Jim H.

[bkdtv]

nope thats not it, got plenty of stuff in my tivo video folder. also tivo to go seems to work fine, i can connect to my tivo with no problem, maybe i just need to wait and hopefully it will pop up?If you have the free version of Tivo Desktop, the folder won't show up unless it contains a compatible .Tivo or .MPG file.

Remember, files like AVI, DIVX, QT, WMV, etc are not supported unless you have Tivo Desktop Plus. You will not see those files with the free version of Tivo Desktop.

[bkdtv]

<Program>: <Episode> from Series 3 (transfer attempted on 10/23/07 at 8:55pm)
This program was not transferred onto this DVR because the program was recorded in an unknown format.Other posts suggest this occurs when one box is not authorized. Every Tivo in your home must have a list of your authorized DVRs.

Several other people found that forcing a connection (after waiting a bit) fixed their problem.

[MickeS]

I've been keeping a show on my Series 3 from just a few days after I got it, waiting for TTG so I could archive it on my PC... and now that I went to do it, turns out it was auto-deleted to make room for newer recordings... YESTERDAY! :D I had forgotten to set to KUID out of old habit - haven't really had to do that up until now. Talk about bad timing...

[pkscout]

Either TivoJerry or TivoPony said that they were going to fix the Series 3 naming problem in November.

Those liars. First they don't deliver TiVoToGo and MRV in November. Then they don't fix the S3 name issue in November either. :D

(oh man, I am so kidding)

[owenc]

If you have the free version of Tivo Desktop, the folder won't show up unless it contains a compatible .Tivo or .MPG file.

Remember, files like AVI, DIVX, QT, WMV, etc are not supported unless you have Tivo Desktop Plus. You will not see those files with the free version of Tivo Desktop.

ohhhhh duh, of course, i should have realized that, everything seems to be good now!

[Microman66]

Not complaining... but I am use to ReplayTV and sharing from the PC to the ReplayTV was real time. Do I need to upgrade my system speed to watch a program that has been transferred and stored on the pc. I transferred a 30 minute sitcom wirelesly with Tivo USB Adapter. Took over 2 hours. Now if I want to watch it, I have to transfer it back before watching.

Can't it feed the signal a little faster? Again, I am a Tivo devotee, but Replay could. Maybe I will iron out the problems. Not back for just coming home from work, and uping to 9.2 and gettting everything but the name of my TIVO correct.

[jmpage2]

Can someone help me troubleshoot this issue:

Tivo.com shows: Transfers Enabled
Tivo Software Version: 9.1.01-2-652
TiVoToGo: a,a,a
Tivo Desktop: 2.5.275381

I click on "Pick Recording to Transfer" in the Tivo Desktop and it responds with retrieving "1 of 38" and then after "11 of 38" I get the error message:

"There was an error while attempting to retrieve data from the selected DVR"

Network seems to be fine in contacting the Tivo service.

I'm having the problem too, if anyone finds out anything about this please share it.

[mikeyts]

Not complaining... but I am use to ReplayTV and sharing from the PC to the ReplayTV was real time. Do I need to upgrade my system speed to watch a program that has been transferred and stored on the pc. I transferred a 30 minute sitcom wirelesly with Tivo USB Adapter. Took over 2 hours. Now if I want to watch it, I have to transfer it back before watching.

Can't it feed the signal a little faster? Again, I am a Tivo devotee, but Replay could. Maybe I will iron out the problems. Not back for just coming home from work, and uping to 9.2 and gettting everything but the name of my TIVO correct.I take it that this was 30 minutes of standard definition television? That's the only thing that could be compared to the performance of your ReplayTV, which could only handle standard def recordings. If it was half an hour of high definition, it took 3 to 6 times as much space as any same-duration recording on Replay would have.

You can vastly increase the speed of transfer by giving your TiVo a wired connection to your router (probably at least tripling it), but you still might not achieve the bit rate of some HD cable transmission.

[lrhorer]

TiVo PR told me 9.2 was required, but I haven't verified it personally.
My Series III boxes are both still running 9.1, but MRV seems to be working on both. I've got one transfer in progress from the living room to the theater and a dozen others queued up. I've also got a transfer going from the theater to a Linux PC running Galleon 2.4. I'm working up the oomph to upgrade to Galleon 2.5. So far no errors, but I've only been transferring for 20 minutes...

Two hours later I've transferred 3.7Gigs from the theater to the Linux PC running Galleon and about 10G from the living room to the theater while recording 3 HD streams and one SD stream.

'Not too shabby.

[bluetex]

THANK YOU TIVO!! For living up to your promises about TTG/CB, MRV!

All that AND comcast decided to turn up a few more HD channels! It's a good day.

[moyekj]

OT but is anyone else having trouble getting the ftp site to open? I found that the links to the ftp site only work using IE browser. It doesn't work with Firefox for some reason.

[andrews777]

I'm having the problem too, if anyone finds out anything about this please share it.

Try restarting Tivo Desktop. I got that same error (I think it happened because I tried it while I was still downloading the update. It worked fine once I restarted the Tivo Desktop.

Brad

[moyekj]

Not complaining... but I am use to ReplayTV and sharing from the PC to the ReplayTV was real time. Do I need to upgrade my system speed to watch a program that has been transferred and stored on the pc. I transferred a 30 minute sitcom wirelesly with Tivo USB Adapter. Took over 2 hours. Now if I want to watch it, I have to transfer it back before watching.

Can't it feed the signal a little faster? Again, I am a Tivo devotee, but Replay could. Maybe I will iron out the problems. Not back for just coming home from work, and uping to 9.2 and gettting everything but the name of my TIVO correct. You can maximize the transfer speeds by:
1. Using wired network instead of wireless as already suggested
2. Tuning both tuners of the originating S3/THD to channels you do not subscribe to - this minimizes load on the S3/THD and gives it more resources to devote to the transfer.

Even doing the above the S3 TTG transfers for me max out at around 15 Mbps or so while S3->S3 MRV under similar conditions max out around 44 Mbps. If you have THD unit TivoPony already mentioned that THD transfers are currently slower than S3 for some undisclosed reason.
However the transfer rates you are getting are way below these numbers so something else is wrong or sub-optimal with your network setup.

[Parkmad]

I was having the same issue and I uninstalled and reinstalled Tivo Desktop and now I am no longer getting the error.

[cr33p]

So there is supposed to be a large red circle with a slash through as an indicator that content is not allowed to be moved around if it is copy once correct? I see that every single HD recording I have on my tivo is able to be transferred via tivo dekstop. does that mean that Comcast has actually goofed up to my benefit?

[ThreeSoFar]

Three forced calls, all three S3's now are "named" correctly (weren't for the longest time).

All do MRV now.

But all three do the MRV stuff, even just populating menus, very slowly.

Does that improve?

[murryamorris]

Both my S3s are now a,a,a. Transfers are enabled on my TiVo account. I can see the "Now Playing" list of the other S3. When I try to use MRV to play back a remote show I get an error.

"This program was not transferred onto this DVR because the program was recorded in an unknown format"

It says this for both SD digital and HD digital. None of the shows in question are CCI=non-zero. Both units are running 9.2.J1. Both units have been rebooted.

Same problem on my S3 and HD units. All shows either way show the same unknown format error. Both SD and HD programs.

Oh, both have 9.2 so the software is the same. Both rebooted after updates today.

[mattack]

I see Galleon was mentioned earlier in this thread (I did read/semi-skim all of this thread), for the only way to do free transfers on a Mac (instead of buying Toast).

I have checked the FAQs for galleon and can't find a simple answer -- does Galleon let you edit the recordings from the Tivo? If not, is there any other way, on a Mac, to edit recordings?
Heck, if Toast will allow you to edit recordings (then make DVDs at least as good as my standalone DVD recorder can), maybe Toast is worth it..

[LCD1080]

Oh man I absolutely love TTG on the Series 3. There are enough HD programs which are not copy protected to make the feature worthwhile. Currently I'm offloading those programs as well as the SD programs from TIVO to my 750GB media cartridge drive in my PC. (The media cartridge is a second hard drive that resides within my HP PC). The hard drive within the TIVO will be used only for copy protected HD programs. The media cartridge will only be used for TTG transfers to keep TIVO data separate from data in the primary hard drive on my PC. I'm not sure but I may not even need an eSATA drive with this strategy. TIVO delivers early and often!

[nhey]

If you have the free version of Tivo Desktop, the folder won't show up unless it contains a compatible .Tivo or .MPG file.

Remember, files like AVI, DIVX, QT, WMV, etc are not supported unless you have Tivo Desktop Plus. You will not see those files with the free version of Tivo Desktop.

I had Tivo Desktop (free version) and uninstalled it and then purchased and downloaded the Plus version. I placed a .MPG file in the shared folder and some .WMV files. Only the .MPG file is showing up on my Series 3. I have the 09.1 software.

Any idea why the .WMV files aren't showing up? Do I need to restart the Tivo to get the Plus version of the desktop to work correctly???

[ThreeSoFar]

First transfer underway.

Seems VERY fast from what I remember with the S2's (it's been a while).

[murryamorris]

I have the Transfers working on all 3 boxes (S3, S2 and THD), but on the S3 it shows the following boxes:

"DVR" - which is my THD
"Bedroom" - which is my S2
"LAPTOP" - which is my PC

and also, "_tivo-videos DVR" - which appears to be a duplicate of my THD (exact same NPL)

Any idea where that name came from or why my THD shows up twice?

My THD shows this also and it is a duplicate of my S3 since it also shows it as DVR. My S3 just shows DVR.

[hddude55]

Can someone help me troubleshoot this issue:

Tivo.com shows: Transfers Enabled
Tivo Software Version: 9.1.01-2-652
TiVoToGo: a,a,a
Tivo Desktop: 2.5.275381

I click on "Pick Recording to Transfer" in the Tivo Desktop and it responds with retrieving "1 of 38" and then after "11 of 38" I get the error message:

"There was an error while attempting to retrieve data from the selected DVR"

Network seems to be fine in contacting the Tivo service.

Re TTG for the S3, I have the same problem, although it got up to retrieving about 90 recordings before the error message. (FYI, MRV is working fine on my S3 and 2 S2's. TTG works on the 2 S2's only.).


Strange, but I just gave it a third try and the third try was the charm! All 127 recordings on the S3 are appearing on my TiVo Desktop. So I don't know is this is a bug that corrects itself or will be a sporadic future issue...

[murryamorris]

Anyone else having the problem of transfers halted due to "recorded in unknown format"? It's happening on my S3 => THD and THD => S3.

I'm still on 9.1 if that matters (waiting for priority 9.2).

Happens with my S3 and THD also even with 9.2J on both units.

[mikeyts]

So there is supposed to be a large red circle with a slash through as an indicator that content is not allowed to be moved around if it is copy once correct? I see that every single HD recording I have on my tivo is able to be transferred via tivo dekstop. does that mean that Comcast has actually goofed up to my benefit?Maybe they haven't goofed up.

Someone else in a Comcast system reported (in this (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5508193&&#post5508193) post) that he complained to his cable provider and local franchising authority that nearly everything was being set Copy One Generation and got action wherein the provider stopped setting things to Copy One Generation except where the content provider specifically requested it. Supposedly Comcast made this their policy nationwide. You may be reaping the benefits :).

[bkdtv]

Another TTG screenshot for those late to the party:

http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/fullttg.jpg

[bkdtv]

I had Tivo Desktop (free version) and uninstalled it and then purchased and downloaded the Plus version. I placed a .MPG file in the shared folder and some .WMV files. Only the .MPG file is showing up on my Series 3. I have the 09.1 software.

Any idea why the .WMV files aren't showing up? Do I need to restart the Tivo to get the Plus version of the desktop to work correctly???There is only one version of Tivo Desktop, but some features aren't activated until you enter your key.

Did you choose Help -> Upgrade to Tivo Plus?

You've got to do that to activate the Plus features.

[MickeS]

Another TTG screenshot for those late to the party:

http://mysite.verizon.net/~fiosdvr/fullttg.jpg
I'm surprised those shows are available for transfer. Only OTA stuff is available for me, the Discovery and HDNET recordings I had on there can not be transfered.

[xxx]

Re TTG for the S3, I have the same problem, although it got up to retrieving about 90 recordings before the error message. (FYI, MRV is working fine on my S3 and 2 S2's. TTG works on the 2 S2's only.).


Strange, but I just gave it a third try and the third try was the charm! All 127 recordings on the S3 are appearing on my TiVo Desktop. So I don't know is this is a bug that corrects itself or will be a sporadic future issue...

I had the same issue, and after trying a few times I was able to see all my recordings. I just started transferring 2 hours' worth of hd content, and the transfer status claims another 2.75 hours to finish.

[bkdtv]

I'm surprised those shows are available for transfer. Only OTA stuff is available for me, the Discovery and HDNET recordings I had on there can not be transfered.That's one benefit of Verizon FiOS, I suppose.

[ZildjianKX]

Anyone else not getting their Series 3 to show up in either TiVo Desktop or Tivo Transfer? I have transfers enabled in my account, on a local wifi network, can't find anything. No firewalls either.

[brota]

Will it be possible to watch Itune videos that I purchase on Tivo?

Thanks
Brian