MRV on THD - back and forth between devices?

[brianlees]

Does anyone know if you'll be able to move programs more than once? For example, if I record something downstairs and then transfer it up to the bedroom, will I be able to transfer it back downstairs?

What I really want is a Tivo "Extender"...I don't need to record upstairs, just watch programs I've already recorded, especially since I will add more HD space to my downstairs TivoHD. Why should I have to do it to both?

Thanks

Brian

[greg_burns]

You can transfer it as much as you want. At least you can currently with S2s. (As long as it is not protected content, which you cant transfer at all). You will end up with multiple copies unless you go back and delete them.

[RoyK]

You don't actually "move" the programs - they are copied so the program you transfer to the bedroom will still be downstairs too and you can watch it on either.

In fact you will have to go downstairs to delete the program from that machine (or just let it be replaced when your HD fills up)

However, yes - you can transfer it again from the bedroom to downstairs if you want to for some reason.

Edit: But you will have to go downstairs to transfer it back - you can only "Pull" a program from one box to another, not Push it.

Edit2: I expect you Will want to record upstairs too. There will be times when you may want to record more than 2 programs in the same time slot.

[bicker]

I sure would love remote delete.

[brianlees]

Thanks for the info everyone. Now, how do we pressure Tivo to come out with a media extender? It wouldn't necessarily work over wireless, but it would definitely work over wired connections. I would LOVE to have this, as I really don't see a need to record more than two shows at a time AND having to spend all that money on the monthly fees seems a bit ridiculous to just watch recorded shows in another room.

Brian

[Joybob]

I sure would love remote delete.

Be even sweeter if all the Tivos worked as one large meta-Tivo with all the drive space added together and all the dual tuners added together etc.

[rickertk]

I don't know if this has changed or not, but if you do a partial transfer (transferring the recording from the paused point in playback), it used to be that the clipped recording would not transfer further.

Keith

[HDTiVo]

I don't know if this has changed or not, but if you do a partial transfer (transferring the recording from the paused point in playback), it used to be that the clipped recording would not transfer further.

Keith
I have never known that to be the case.

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It will be interesting to see if there are any differences in MRV behavior, esp. with digital flagged content, like if they do implement a move function, etc.

There seems to be a gap in the application of the copy flags in that there is content which can't be copied or moved at all, but there never seems to be content where you can record one copy and then move that copy anywhere, as long as only one useable copy ever exists.

Also, I've been anticipating that any S2 recorded content or content recorded on an S3 platform from an analog cable channel will be as free as always, but I'm waiting for the pudding.

[bmgoodman]

Now, how do we pressure Tivo to come out with a media extender?

Not to rain on your parade, but I'd love them to re-focus on core issues and make Tivo "bullet-proof" and fast again, like it used to be. To me, their code is growing out-of-control and I'm seeing way more problems than I ever have before. Each new version brings a raft of flaws.

Sure, I'd love a media extender, too, but not before they get their proverbial house in order.

[HDTiVo]

The coming of Transfers to the S3 platforms marks a major step in TiVo history. It is now possible to foresee a significant transition away from the S2 platform to the S3. For those of us heavy TiVo users that is.

For example, I still have all my S2s active because I 'need' their functionality to get recordings to other rooms & TTG... I usually duplicate recordings on S2s and hi def TiVoes.

With MRV/TTG, it will be possible to take some S2s out of service and depend far more on the cableCARD based Tivoes. Will I be able to completely eliminate the S2 from some rooms? Maybe. Will I need extra S2s running to have sufficient tuners? Probably not.

[classicsat]

TiVos business model is to sell subscriptions, not hardware. a TiVo-Extender would go against that model, likely.

OTOH, you could directly feed the A/V from one TiVo to your other set(s), and use an RF remote extender to control it.

[HDTiVo]

TiVos business model is to sell subscriptions, not hardware. a TiVo-Extender would go against that model, likely.

Looks that way. Its part of the business model they've used to lose gobs and gobs of money. :eek:

[bicker]

As opposed to the alternative, which would perhaps have lost them dozens of gobs and gobs of money. double-:eek:

[HDTiVo]

As opposed to the alternative, which would perhaps have lost them dozens of gobs and gobs of money. double-:eek:
Believing that TiVo has done the best they could is a very poor reflection upon you.

[andrews777]

TiVos business model is to sell subscriptions, not hardware. a TiVo-Extender would go against that model, likely.

OTOH, you could directly feed the A/V from one TiVo to your other set(s), and use an RF remote extender to control it.
I would be more likely to buy another TivoHD if I knew I could watch content recorded on any TivoHD on any TivoHD in the house. How would that limit their subscriptions? You would still need a TivoHD to view recorded shows.

Brad

[HDTiVo]

Sure, I'd love a media extender, too, but not before they get their proverbial house in order.
depending on how you feel personally, perhaps the TiVo HD at under $250 is kinda a bit of a media extender already? :cool:

[Jonathan_S]

I don't know if this has changed or not, but if you do a partial transfer (transferring the recording from the paused point in playback), it used to be that the clipped recording would not transfer further.

Keith
I've never seen that. And I've used the transfer feature to trim excess padding off of Cold Case. (I got about 15 of them piled up last season when I was watching other stuff for a while.) Because they were on after football I had to have a 1 hour pad to ensure I got the whole show if the game ran late.

Too free up all the space the padding was taking up I spent a few minutes doing a transfer from the paused point (actual beginning of the show) to my other TiVo, waiting until it hit the end of the show, canceling the transfer and then retransfering the 1 hour recording back to the first TiVo and deleting the original 2 hour recording.

(That is enough to wish the TiVo simply supported trimming of recorded programs directly, rather than doing it through MRV transfer games)

[Islanti]

depending on how you feel personally, perhaps the TiVo HD at under $250 is kinda a bit of a media extender already? :cool:
Indeed. The Windows Media Extenders announced have a list price similar to the Tivo HD as does the Apple iTV box.

[bicker]

Believing that TiVo has done the best they could is a very poor reflection upon you.It's pretty self-centered of your to say so. :rolleyes:

Regardless, I never said what you said I said (wished I said). I know it is more fun to argue against things that are easier to argue against, but please restrict your arguments to things I actually DID say. Thanks.

[HDTiVo]

It's pretty self-centered of your to say so. :rolleyes:

Regardless, I never said what you said I said (wished I said). I know it is more fun to argue against things that are easier to argue against, but please restrict your arguments to things I actually DID say. Thanks.
Another idiotic response. Yes you did say it. Maybe you wish you didn't. And you believe it (or are just being a disruptive troll.)

Taking your literal statement... losing dozens of gobs of money ... would put it in the 8 to tens of billions of $s range. Pretty stupid to suggest TiVo could have gotten that far before disappearing. Certainly rediculous to make such a statement on a par with mine. But I left that part alone initially for your sake.