Survivor 04OCT07 (spoilers)

[Mikkel_Knight]

Wow... I can understand sending Leslie packing, but not before Courtney... that girl has absolutely NOTHING to offer.

And - James had better distance himself from Poker-Player 'cause he'll get dragged down with him.

Too bad they didn't start the reward challenge with the men...

[Amnesia]

Courtney's hot. Enough reason to leave her around in my book...plus since she's weak, she'd be easy to beat in the end...

[TriBruin]

Courtney's hot. Enough reason to leave her around in my book...plus since she's weak, she'd be easy to beat in the end...

Hot, maybe in a "skinny a$$ and chest bones for boobs kind of way" :rolleyes:

Sorry, I find nothing attractive about Courtney and I am suprised the tribe voted Leslie out before her. I think her tribe is going to regret this later. They should use her in every reward challenge and leave her out of the immunity challenges. At least then they have a chance.

[jradosh]

I started to like Courtney's personality a little, but she has serious problems with regarding her body (which may be a mental problem as well). I'd be glad to see her go so she can get a sammich in her STAT.

[LordKronos]

Thats alright. The search is practiacally useless when searching for episode dates anyhow.

[LordKronos]

Thank god for blurring

[gossamer88]

They usually say the camera adds 10 pounds...imagine Courtney in real life? It's only been a week that they've been there. That girl is gonna disappear in two weeks. Her torch should've been distinguished tonight.

[DLL66]

" Survivor 04OCT07 (spoilers)"

This is a really really minor nitpick, but 99% of thread starters use the 10/4 date method, not 04OCT. Makes searching a little less reliable when one uses atypical nomenclature.

/NIT OFF

Yeah.........way too nit pick.............who actually cares?? :down: :rolleyes:

Does Poker Player really think he's all that?? :p

[Rob Helmerichs]

They usually say the camera adds 10 pounds...imagine Courtney in real life?
Well, maybe the ten pounds each added to the other contestants all came from Courtney...

[Zzot]

Terrible strategy on the women's part for the reward challenge..."Yeah, lets send our strongest woman across all by herself so that she loses any advantage she has by being out numbered"

What did James actually say when him and the dimwit poker player were talking?

I was thinking that Courtney was trying to throw the immunity challenge until the vote went against Leslie.

[Rob Helmerichs]

I'm a little guy (well, average height and thin) and not very strong, and if I were in that reward challenge and my team went up 3 to 2, I would immediately HURL myself at the biggest opponent I could find. I was amazed at how long it seems to have taken them to figure out the strategy of sacrifice. If you're willing to go into the water yourself, there's really not much the other guy can do about it...

In the earlier rounds, there were even times when one person could easily have knocked two opponents into the water.

[Demandred]

Her torch should've been distinguished tonight.

I thought it was...with the little bow and the tassel on the end? Better so than the other torches anyway. Not sure what James was thinking decorating his with a skull and crossbones...

[Amnesia]

What I don't understand is why they sent Courtney first for the immunity challenge. People already knew that she wasn't going to be great at that...I think it would have been better if someone else went first so that she could see how to do it effectively...

[uncdrew]

No person (that can qualify for Survivor) could possibly be that weak.

She swings a sharp machete into a rope and it's her wrist that breaks?!? That whole thing scared me. I suppose when bartending she doesn't carry a full tray of drinks.

[Bill Reeves]

Courtney's hot. Enough reason to leave her around in my book...plus since she's weak, she'd be easy to beat in the end...

Flight attendant guy said as much (about Courtney being easy to beat later, not about her being hot). I think he was pulling strings and got the rest of the non-weak-chicks group to vote for Leslie instead.

What I don't understand is why they sent Courtney first for the immunity challenge. People already knew that she wasn't going to be great at that...I think it would have been better if someone else went first so that she could see how to do it effectively...

I agree -- her tribe bears some responsibility for letting her be a machete-swinger instead of a puzzle-solver.

[heySkippy]

I think Leslie shot herself in the foot badly by having too good a time at the other tribe's camp and then talking about it. If she'd have been smart, she'd have moaned and groaned about the experience instead.

[Roadblock]

No person (that can qualify for Survivor) could possibly be that weak.

She swings a sharp machete into a rope and it's her wrist that breaks?!? That whole thing scared me. I suppose when bartending she doesn't carry a full tray of drinks.

Man, she was bad. I was laughing at how they showed all the slow-motion shots of everyone chopping the last rope until they got to Courtney, who of course failed and had to slice it instead. I was surprised at her injuries though. Seems like swinging a sword so slowly wouldn't do much. Her hands looked painful.

The whole clue thing worked out nicely for Jaime (who is also much more attractive than Courtney). I don't know how anyone could guess that piece of metal? on the arch is the immunity idol though.

What's up with the Hatch wannabe? He can't be long for the game.

[buckeye1010]

Here's some Courtney modeling pics, go HERE (http://www.tv.com/tracking/viewer.html?sls_id=23379&ref_type=104&ref_id=599193&tag=updates;title;0)
and choose Courtney Yates from the drop down list.

[heySkippy]

^^^ Very not safe for work link there.

[ChickenCheese]

Thank god for blurring

Amen. :up: There's nothing on that mullet woman I want to see!

[Magister]

Amen. :up: There's nothing on that mullet woman I want to see!

That was a little scary, imagine the DVD extras on that.

Courtney has a great face, but a little concentration camp thin.

Leslie is pretty annoying, don't brag about your connections with your common cult.

[sushikitten]

Flight attendant guy said as much (about Courtney being easy to beat later, not about her being hot). I think he was pulling strings and got the rest of the non-weak-chicks group to vote for Leslie instead.

I agree -- her tribe bears some responsibility for letting her be a machete-swinger instead of a puzzle-solver.

But as the puzzle solver, she would have had to help pull the whole thing over the finish line. That said, I thought if she knew she was going to be that weak, it should have been her and James (? gravedigger) because he could have pulled it himself.

[betts4]

I think Leslie shot herself in the foot badly by having too good a time at the other tribe's camp and then talking about it. If she'd have been smart, she'd have moaned and groaned about the experience instead.
And it was mentioned -the one gal was saying 'we gossiped, we got info on strengths and weaknesses'. By making Leslie feel part of their group. And if Leslie had stayed quiet or as you said, moaned about it, the vote may have gone differently.

Courtney? bah, get her off of there. I don't think J. Robert should be gone, but the big guy that one end up always last man standing during the reward challenge. J. Robert is not well liked, so he won't win jury points. Is the other guy well liked at all?

[Honora]

That was a little scary, imagine the DVD extras on that.

Courtney has a great face, but a little concentration camp thin.

Leslie is pretty annoying, don't brag about your connections with your common cult.


It seemed that what got Leslie kicked off was the possibility - just the possibility mind you - that come the merge she would bond with those 3 other Christians in the other tribe, who might or might not still be there at that time! Somebody is either a bit paranoid or thinking way too far ahead.

At this point you have to think about the good of the tribe over what could happen later. That's the only reason Jean Robert is still there.

[Mikkel_Knight]

" Survivor 04OCT07 (spoilers)"

This is a really really minor nitpick, but 99% of thread starters use the 10/4 date method, not 04OCT. Makes searching a little less reliable when one uses atypical nomenclature.

/NIT OFF
Sorry - old Military habit. I'll try and do better next time - never started a TV Show Episode thread before...

[newsposter]

I guess it's because i'm not a violent guy but i hate these physical things. Plus cant get the sue/richard incident out of my head lol..ewww

as for court: height 5’7”/1.70 bust 32a/81 waist 23/58 hips 33/84 dress 2/32 shoe 6/37 hair blonde eyes brown

If im reading that right, thats a 23 waist? I'll have to measure one of my legs sometime to see how bit it is but 23 seems perrrty tiny to me. I just hate seeing skeletons.

[mcb08]

Hot, maybe in a "skinny a$$ and chest bones for boobs kind of way" :rolleyes: .

+1

Everytime I see her emaciated figure on-screen, I throw up a little bit.

[NoThru22]

Here's some Courtney modeling pics, go HERE (http://www.tv.com/tracking/viewer.html?sls_id=23379&ref_type=104&ref_id=599193&tag=updates;title;0)
and choose Courtney Yates from the drop down list.
Wow. You think if she looked like that, she'd at least have a little bit of a personality. I guess in the modeling world, being that skinny means you can be a giant see you next tuesday, but not in the real world.

[JFriday]

Why on earth wouldn't they get rid of Courtney, she showed how useless she could be in a physical challenge.

I'm surprised Denise didn't didn't do better in the rewards challenge, she had twice the weight of the other girls, she should have been able to dominate.

What was up with Dave, that was just too wierd.

[astrohip]

Sorry - old Military habit. I'll try and do better next time - never started a TV Show Episode thread before...
Sorry about that nit. I was pissed about something else, and took it out on a TCF thread. You start the post, you pick the date!

:o

[glumlord]

Hot, maybe in a "skinny a$$ and chest bones for boobs kind of way" :rolleyes:

Sorry, I find nothing attractive about Courtney and I am suprised the tribe voted Leslie out before her. I think her tribe is going to regret this later. They should use her in every reward challenge and leave her out of the immunity challenges. At least then they have a chance.

Leslie was the right choice.

Anytime you see groups forming based on gender, age, religion or anything else you have to break it up quick.

I don't know how many times you have a group of four carry each other till the end of the game.

Leslie should of kept her mouth shut.

I hate Jean-Robert but he helps in the challenge far more than Courtney and Leslie do, and thats what is important for that tribe right now. Winning means rewards like food which keep the tribe stronger, and their ability to stay in the game.

Courtney is a non-threat. She only has one real ally in Todd and will be easy to defeat in Challenges.

[jlb]

Courtney makes me think of a blonde Winona Ryder

[goblue97]

Amen. :up: There's nothing on that mullet woman I want to see!
has she even talked yet? I don't recall her saying anything yet.

[jradosh]

Courtney makes me think of a blonde Winona Ryder with her breasts removed and emaciated
FYP

[sketcher]

Courtney is a non-threat. She only has one real ally in Todd and will be easy to defeat in Challenges.
Plus, she obviously doesn't eat anything. That means more food for everyone else.

[AJRitz]

John Robert is a waste. He's going to go soon. Interesting that he claims to have finally kicked it up in challenges - just when his team started losing challenges. He's a big guy, but not remotely athletic (and not particularly strong either). He's lazy and disruptive in camp. No one wants to be around him. He's going home soon.

It was interesting to see how quickly the momentum swung (and interesting to see how the tribe that had been bickering constantly was able to "clean it up" when they had someone from the other camp "visiting").

[MaryT]

It seemed that what got Leslie kicked off was the possibility - just the possibility mind you - that come the merge she would bond with those 3 other Christians in the other tribe, who might or might not still be there at that time! Somebody is either a bit paranoid or thinking way too far ahead.

At this point you have to think about the good of the tribe over what could happen later. That's the only reason Jean Robert is still there.
This was my first thought. Christians tend to stick up for each other, at least that has been my experience. Except she was the only one constantly talking about it. It would make me nervous too.

They were afraid of an alliance forming, plain and simple.

[DevdogAZ]

It seemed that what got Leslie kicked off was the possibility - just the possibility mind you - that come the merge she would bond with those 3 other Christians in the other tribe, who might or might not still be there at that time! Somebody is either a bit paranoid or thinking way too far ahead.

At this point you have to think about the good of the tribe over what could happen later. That's the only reason Jean Robert is still there.
Although the Christian angle may have made it worse, I think the real reason was how she talked so fondly of how well the other team got along and how they seemed to have their act together. Saying that kind of stuff makes your own team think that you're going to flip as soon as the merge comes and therefore, it was smart to get rid of her.

Courtney will likely be next, unless Jean Robert gets even more annoying. I suppose Todd, Courtney and Amanda might be able to find one more person to vote with them.

[heySkippy]

Remember when Leslie said "three of them are Christians" while telling about her night in the other camp? The very first thing I heard said by her tribe after she said that was "who". I think it was the poker player who asked. Definitely thinking about her loyalty after the merge.

[Mikkel_Knight]

sure, thinking about loyalty is a good thing, but it was a bone-headed stupid move to not vote out the stick figure instead of Leslie.

I think Warren has drawn a more plump stick figure...

Thinking about loyalty and a merge 9 days into the game when the merge isn't going to come for another 15 days isn't the right time to be voting based on that.

You can still vote out Stick-girl, and if you go back to Tribal again, vote out the potential flipper - if you DON'T go back to Tribal, you'll wind up with numbers over the other tribe at the merge and you can vote her out after the merge without sacrificing your own tribe's numbers.

Meanwhile, you get someone who can perform better than someone who weighs 80 pounds...

Sure - you can beat her in an individual challenge, but you have to GET to the individual challenge part of the game first...

Something the last couple of seasons have shown is people are thinking too much about individual immunity and the players who could be there instead of getting their (to the individual immunity stage) with numbers so it's not as big of a problem...

[Anubys]

+1

Everytime I see her emaciated figure on-screen, I throw up a little bit.

anorexia problem? :D

Leslie absolutely had to go...she told everyone that she told the other tribe everything AND that she liked the other tribe better...what an idiot!

not sure I liked the up-skirt shot of Courtney while she was trying to cut the rope...

I can't believe no one cut their own head off with the follow through with that sword...

[scottykempf]

"Dave, still naked!!" LOL
Anyone seen the movie Eastern Promises?

Who's that Holocaust survivor? OH, that's just Courtney. I saw her ribs sticking out, shoulder blades sticking out, collar bone sticking out, hip bones sticking out. She should have started hitting the doughnuts the minute she heard she was going to be on Survivor.

[heySkippy]

Heh, at least she seems to come by those 32-A's honestly. ;)

[blankme]

Did anyone else notice the "LOST" moment with the closeup of three sets of legs/feet walking along?

[Sir_winealot]

Well, at least Lezlie can get back to her bible now. :rolleyes:

And naked Dave has a pretty big mouth as well.... Jean - Bobbie too.

The Annoying Tribe. :D

[Ruth]

Wow, John-Robert is a piece of work, huh? I couldn't tell if James is a pig too or was just nodding and smiling along. I lean toward the latter, but it's just a guess.

[Anubys]

Wow, John-Robert is a piece of work, huh? I couldn't tell if James is a pig too or was just nodding and smiling along. I lean toward the latter, but it's just a guess.

I think he was just nodding along to make friends...they didn't show him say anything bad...

loved his bit about being crocodile dundee :D

[Philosofy]

Thank God, Praise the Lord she's gone! Although I did like the Sister Christian nickname: much more acceptable than the one I had for her.

[Langree]

omg, as a group they shoulda removed courtney. wow....

[Philosofy]

Courtney isn't pulling her weight, and she only weighs 70 lbs.

[reh523]

Courtney isn't pulling her weight, and she only weighs 70 lbs.

Dude that is funny!!!!

[Amnesia]

And naked Dave has a pretty big mouth as well.... You mean in addition to a big something else?

[justapixel]

When I was Courtney's age I was skinny as she was. I had a 22 inch waist and 32 inch hip, and had and still have chicken legs.....but did have a much larger bust, which I guess might have kept the skinny-hating vultures from picking me apart.

Maybe not. :D

However, skinny or not, I could have chopped through those ropes. I don't understand why she had so much trouble with it. Maybe she'd injured her wrist ahead of time, and they didn't show it?

I like her personality though. When she was complaining about John Robert snuggling up to her at night, she said something like "He's going to use me to keep himself warm? I'm about 7 pounds, I can't even keep myself warm."

And, when she overheard James and John Robert talking about her, she was laughing - didn't seem to be insulted. So, props for that.

You Survivor vets know that the outspoken Christians always get kicked off early. :)

[MikeekiM]

When she was complaining about John Robert snuggling up to her at night, she said something like "He's going to use me to keep himself warm? I'm about 7 pounds, I can't even keep myself warm."


My favorite quote in the entire episode...

[heySkippy]

I don't understand why she had so much trouble with it.
She was swinging like a girl.

/ducks

[Philosofy]

My favorite quote was the grave digger (John?): "I spend 4 hours at Barnes and Noble reading survival books, and I'm like Crocodile Dundee out here compared to them!"

[madscientist]

Yeah, James' rant about how he can't believe people don't even try to prepare was absolutely hilarious.

[fmowry]

Wow, John-Robert is a piece of work, huh? I couldn't tell if James is a pig too or was just nodding and smiling along. I lean toward the latter, but it's just a guess.


You do realize guys talk like that when they're around each other, right? Gene-RoberT is a jerk, but that's a typical guy conversation that goes around probably with every group of guys in Survivor. This was just caught on tape.

Funny how after consistent bickering of the one tribe, and the strife amongst them, that Sister Christian only saw them as a unified team with heart that has fun. If they had a machete at camp, they would have at least killed the "male model" by now.

Frank

[justapixel]

Yeah, James' rant about how he can't believe people don't even try to prepare was absolutely hilarious.

All you have to do is look at him to see his has discipline and knows how to plan and prepare.

All you have to do to know the other guys don't is look at them. :p

[justapixel]

You mean in addition to a big something else?

Fortunately for the blurring, we'll never know.

Frankly,I wouldn't want to know.

[KyleLC]

If im reading that right, thats a 23 waist? I'll have to measure one of my legs sometime to see how bit it is but 23 seems perrrty tiny to me.23 inches is only one inch less in the waist than the classic 36-24-36 measurements.

[scottykempf]

23 inches is only one inch less in the waist than the classic 36-24-36 measurements.

Classic, or classic male fantasy?

[Sadara]

Finally got around to watching this...... Glad Leslie is gone!! Courtney can go next!!

James is amazingly strong.

[Anubys]

Classic, or classic male fantasy?

certainly not mine...while I don't like fat, I'd rather have fat than skinny...

[betts4]

I don't understand why she had so much trouble with it. Maybe she'd injured her wrist ahead of time, and they didn't show it?

I don't remember, but did she try swinging with two hands on the handle? I don't think she should be so upset, why would they have put her first? And even with her problems they still came very close.

[Philosofy]

I don't remember, but did she try swinging with two hands on the handle? I don't think she should be so upset, why would they have put her first? And even with her problems they still came very close.

It wasn't even like she swung it: it was like she shoved it. This girl looked like she had absolutely zero athletic ability.

[Kablemodem]

It wasn't even like she swung it: it was like she shoved it. This girl looked like she had absolutely zero athletic ability.

They should have told her to swing it like a baseball bat. But she's from NY; what do New Yorkers know about baseball anyway? :)

[Amnesia]

certainly not mine...while I don't like fat, I'd rather have fat than skinny...To each his own. I think Courtney is by far the most attractive castaway this season...

[ParadiseDave]

Does anyone else hear Jean-Robert pronounced "Zhan-Robere" and immediately think, "Fontaine Delatour Dauterive "? :)

[Mike1138]

However, skinny or not, I could have chopped through those ropes. I don't understand why she had so much trouble with it. Maybe she'd injured her wrist ahead of time, and they didn't show it?

I was thinking the same thing. Sure, she's skinny but it didn't look like she was trying at all. If she put her weight into it she should have been able to chop through the rope fairly easily. I was surprised to see the blisters on her hands. Maybe she was exhausted from lack of food.

[JLucPicard]

Definitely lack of energy - whether that be from malnutrition since beginning Survivor or from long before that, but she could barely even pick up the machete, let alone swing it.

[betts4]

I was thinking the same thing. Sure, she's skinny but it didn't look like she was trying at all. If she put her weight into it she should have been able to chop through the rope fairly easily. I was surprised to see the blisters on her hands. Maybe she was exhausted from lack of food.
Heck my 6 year old nephew could have cut the ropes faster than she was doing it.

[marksman]

23 inches is only one inch less in the waist than the classic 36-24-36 measurements.


Too bad she is 26-23-26.

[Zzot]

Definitely lack of energy - whether that be from malnutrition since beginning Survivor or from long before that, but she could barely even pick up the machete, let alone swing it.
What bugs me, is that she then complains that her tribe is trying to figure out how she can do the least damage during challenges. Well, yeah, that is what they are suppose to do!

[gschrock]

Definitely lack of energy - whether that be from malnutrition since beginning Survivor or from long before that, but she could barely even pick up the machete, let alone swing it.

While she did seem to have problems even picking it up, I'm not sure if that was because of weight, or it kinda looked like she just barely had a grip on it. (Personally, I'm not convinced holding the machete didn't intimidate her, she kinda acted like she was somewhat afraid of it.) As far as why she couldn't chop through anything, it looks like she was only using her wrists to swing (which probably explains why she hurt them), instead of using her arms. It's going to be tough for anyone to chop through things using their wrists (although it begs the question of why someone didn't point that out to her).

[Anubys]

ok...she's way too skinny and ugly...but I have to defend her...she clearly tried very hard with the sword...her hands were a mess afterwards...she simply has no athletic ability whatsoever and has zero muscles...

[MikeekiM]

I don't know...it seems to me it was all about technique...

Yes, she did not have the upper body strength (heck, or even lower body strength)... But it seemed to me that she did not understand the concept of building the momentum and creating a "chopping" effect on the rope, versus using it like a steak knife and trying to slice it... I deleted the show, so I can't go back and watch it...but that was my takeaway from memory...

[Ruth]

Courtney's lack of strength -- though pretty amazing -- was not the main issue for me. It was that she was crying and apologizing and practically giving up instead of really working on the problem. Even given her physical limitations, I think she could have approached the challenge in a more effective and less annoying way.

[Anubys]

you don't know how long she had been trying...she was clearly exhausted...given that she's never competed physically before (I'm assuming), she was clearly not used to this type of effort and how to "fight through it"...

[Ruth]

She could have stopped, rested, and carefully watched a member of the other team, then tried to implement their technique. That would likely have been a lot more effective than the whining and halfhearted effort that we saw.

How can you be an adult person and have no experience whatsoever with putting effort into difficult tasks? Physical, mental, it doesn't matter what the task is. Sometimes things are going to be a struggle, but I want a team member who will try to push through and try her hardest with a good attitude. I know she was frustrated and I'm not saying she didn't have reason to be -- obviously the task was very challenging for her -- but I just wasn't seeing the kind of attitude and drive from her that I would want on my team.

[Honora]

ok...she's way too skinny and ugly...but I have to defend her...she clearly tried very hard with the sword...her hands were a mess afterwards...she simply has no athletic ability whatsoever and has zero muscles...

Courtney must work in one of those restaurants where one person takes the order and somebody else brings the food to the table. I can't see her carrying more than one plate at a time.

[Amnesia]

I don't know...it seems to me it was all about technique...That's why I thought it was stupid to have her go first. We've seen this time and again on this show...

[TreborPugly]

Here's some Courtney modeling pics, go HERE (http://www.tv.com/tracking/viewer.html?sls_id=23379&ref_type=104&ref_id=599193&tag=updates;title;0)
and choose Courtney Yates from the drop down list.

Well that confirms my theory that she's only on survivor for the exposure. She'll be hosting The View in 2 years.

[KyleLC]

Classic, or classic male fantasy?Both, but that doesn't matter in the point I was trying to make anyway.

[KyleLC]

certainly not mine...while I don't like fat, I'd rather have fat than skinny...36-24-36 is not skinny, unless you think someone like Marilyn Monroe was skinny. But yes, Courtney is definitely skinny, to say the least.

[Anubys]

36-24-36 is not skinny, unless you think someone like Marilyn Monroe was skinny. But yes, Courtney is definitely skinny, to say the least.

smeek!

it's been corrected...it's actually 26-24-26 :)

[KyleLC]

smeek!

it's been corrected...it's actually 26-24-26 :)What's been corrected? I see no smeek. My original point was concerning Courtney's waist of 23 inches not being all that skinny on its own (marksman had said 23 seemed pretty tiny to him). I used the "classic" measurements of 36-24-36 to illustrate my point, since her waist is only one inch below that. I never said 36-24-36 were her measurements.

[KyleLC]

Too bad she is 26-23-26.I know that, but you were talking about her waist being too tiny. My point was that her waist alone is not that tiny.

[Anubys]

What's been corrected? I see no smeek. My original point was concerning Courtney's waist of 23 inches not being all that skinny on its own (marksman had said 23 seemed pretty tiny to him). I used the "classic" measurements of 36-24-36 to illustrate my point, since her waist is only one inch below that. I never said 36-24-36 were her measurements.

I thought you'd said she has Marilyn Monroe proportions...not just the waist, I assumed...no big deal...just having fun...no reason to get upset...