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JETarpon
10-04-2007, 02:41 AM
Arrrgh. My recording cut off as they were finding out what happened.

I cut off right when he turned to a-hole brother and said "that's two."

Can anybody tell me what happened from there? I feel like the old lady, wanting to know who did it.

spikedavis
10-04-2007, 03:00 AM
Man I love this show.

The sister confessed that the brother-Bradley-tried to steal Anna-the bride's money. They were all drunk. Anna tried to stop Bradley, but he pushed her against the wall hard. The sister took a picture of Bradley standing over Anna's dead body. Bradley then smashed the camera.

Bradley gets arrested.

Detective Crews then listens to a Zen audiobook on his iPod about Vengeance while he is at the firing range-end credits.

JETarpon
10-04-2007, 03:27 AM
Thanks. I've now padded the recording rule for this show.

mwhip
10-04-2007, 05:57 AM
Got to love a show that plays Shivaree in the opening scene (John 2/14 off of the Rough Dreams album) and has Saffron/Joan from Firefly/Mad Men in it.

Good mix of MOTW and his on going investigation. Why would his ex-partner use his wife to get him to the house? Did he think he would not come if she did not invite him?

Ntombi
10-04-2007, 06:53 AM
I'm definitely liking this show. It was consistent in quality from last week, and I felt like "his" murder case moved along quite a bit.

The ex-partner's wife was an off note for me. I'm not quite sure why she's so hostile to him, after complaining about how her husband was wrongly cast in a bad light for him being wrongly convicted. :confused:

I mean, I get that she's jealous of the money, but the rest of it wasn't ringing true to me. I felt like the writers put that in so that they could artificial menace as to why the ex-partner wanted him to come into the garage.

MacThor
10-04-2007, 01:07 PM
I had the same reaction to the ex-partner's wife, but I think the writers are consistently showing that everyone affected negatively by his arrest and conviction still harbor animosity towards Crews, even though he was exonerated.

This is another of those "how will it last beyond one season" shows......anyone else think the "twist" will be that Crews really did the crime?

dtle
10-04-2007, 04:52 PM
This is another of those "how will it last beyond one season" shows......anyone else think the "twist" will be that Crews really did the crime?

Why would he spend so much energy trying to solve the crime, IN SECRET, if he did it?

Anybody thought his mother-in-law-to-be was actually the little girl who survived the attack? Oh well, she'll show up eventually.

mwhip
10-04-2007, 05:22 PM
Took me all day but I finally figured out who the cops wife was at the pool party that told him to leave:

Meredith Salenger from The Journey of Natty Gann.

RoundBoy
10-04-2007, 08:44 PM
Oh oh oh ... Our Mrs Reynolds was there too!

The ending scene was very well done.

I notice from IMDB that the original pilot had claudia black as the ex wife... was she really that bad in the role to dump her ?

Mabes
10-04-2007, 11:09 PM
Took me all day but I finally figured out who the cops wife was at the pool party that told him to leave:

Meredith Salenger from The Journey of Natty Gann.

I only saw a few minutes (haven't seen the show before), I'm saving it for later, but I kept trying today to figure out who the detective was who said, "When I say that's funny, of course I mean that's not funny."

It's Calamity Jane from Deadwood!

mwhip
10-04-2007, 11:42 PM
It's Calamity Jane from Deadwood!

And his old partner Bobby Stark played by Brent Sexton was Harry Manning on Deadwood.

mrpantstm
10-04-2007, 11:57 PM
Still interested, still not hooked though.

madscientist
10-05-2007, 12:06 AM
I really liked this episode; better than the pilot even. This is ending up one of my favourite new shows I think.

TAsunder
10-05-2007, 09:57 AM
About a third of the way through this episode, I started to get a little bored and began wondering if I really have room on my weekly tivo list for this show. Then it got better and better as the episode carried on. There's just something to this show. The lead character should be really uninteresting and the show should be falling on its face, but the acting prevents it.

RoundBoy
10-05-2007, 10:17 AM
The tension in the garage was very well done. The subtle way you knew he was lying about his wife before he went in... all the way through to the smiles...

I am trying to remember what the partner had next to his picture on the evidence wall at home.. His interviews tend to portray the former parter as him thinking he was guilty.

jwjody
10-05-2007, 10:19 AM
The tension in the garage was very well done. The subtle way you knew he was lying about his wife before he went in... all the way through to the smiles...

I am trying to remember what the partner had next to his picture on the evidence wall at home.. His interviews tend to portray the former parter as him thinking he was guilty.
I think it said, "Couldn't have seen"

Also, it looks like the partner was pressured into a false statement during Crew's investigation. He said something like, "I wish I could have said something. Do you get my meaning?"

J

Vito the TiVo
10-05-2007, 06:33 PM
Does it bug anyone else that this somehow just feels like "House" but with a cop?

mwhip
10-05-2007, 06:51 PM
Does it bug anyone else that this somehow just feels like "House" but with a cop?

Nope. Well no one on TV can be as big of a tool as House and I don't think anyone else could be nearly as smart.

pcguru83
10-06-2007, 12:19 PM
Just got around to watching this this morning, and this episode has me hooked. This is now one of my favorite new shows of the year.

And I totally don't get the comparisons to House. Crews is not even close to being on the same "jerk" level as House.

megory
10-06-2007, 12:39 PM
Nope. Well no one on TV can be as big of a tool as House and I don't think anyone else could be nearly as smart.Or as predictable. :D

getreal
10-07-2007, 06:01 PM
And I totally don't get the comparisons to House. Crews is not even close to being on the same "jerk" level as House.
Could the comparisons be due solely to the fact that both actors are British, yet can pull off a perfect American accent?

RoundBoy
10-08-2007, 08:48 AM
How are you comparing Crews to House? Crews has 'found' zen .. and makes his decisions based on that. He appears to be an ass so far to only his boss.. who appears to be in on the frame up. Oh, and his dad... but he apparently killed his wife.. so i guess he is a little justified.

His accountant 'friend' also appears on the wall...

Agatha Mystery
10-09-2007, 01:36 AM
Something else that concerns me - he gets his gun and his old badge back. I'd be worried that the gun was used for some nefarious purpose and he now holds a murder weapon in his hand. If he now has them, and he shouldn't, I'd expect him to get into some sort of trouble - stealing old evidence kind of thing.

I wonder how long they will drag out him trying to find the "real killer". If it goes on more than a season, it may get tedious. He also seems a bit like Monk to me - too much of a strange one, quirkiness that will help him solve the crime.

Oh, and I have a hard time believing that the police department would have been forced to put him back on the force. I can see them having to give him back pay (which is the settlement) and retirement. Was he a detective before? He rode with the other cop. Was the other cop a detective and got downgraded? Seems weird.

MacThor
10-09-2007, 05:02 AM
Something else that concerns me - he gets his gun and his old badge back. I'd be worried that the gun was used for some nefarious purpose and he now holds a murder weapon in his hand. If he now has them, and he shouldn't, I'd expect him to get into some sort of trouble - stealing old evidence kind of thing.

I wonder how long they will drag out him trying to find the "real killer". If it goes on more than a season, it may get tedious. He also seems a bit like Monk to me - too much of a strange one, quirkiness that will help him solve the crime.

Oh, and I have a hard time believing that the police department would have been forced to put him back on the force. I can see them having to give him back pay (which is the settlement) and retirement. Was he a detective before? He rode with the other cop. Was the other cop a detective and got downgraded? Seems weird.

Yep, I wondered if the old badge and gun were some kind of setup - probably not the murder weapon but even just a "he does anything wrong he's out of the LAPD" thing.

I agree it sets up for one season, although they're doing a better job of pseudo-serializing it -- one COTW and his own case. A lot of the failed shows of the past two seasons were too serialized and would have really stretched to come up with a second season, if they had finished their first. I think if this show survives he'll have to solve a good part of his own case in S1, then have to work with the "bad guys" while trying to prove his case in S2 and beyond.

I haven't seen Monk in some time, but Zen cop vs OCD detective (is he even officially on the force?) leaves plenty of room for quirky, but different.

The detective shield is a promotion; part of the settlement. Yeah, it's unrealistic -- in fact, for him to get a sizable monetary settlement, his lawyer would have needed to prove some willful misconduct by LAPD or the DA. To do that, she should already have a lot of the evidence Crews needs for his case.