Big Brother 8 (9-11-07) *Spoilers* [Text View]

Dnamertz

09-12-2007, 02:00 AM

Man is this game stressful, and I'm not even in the house!

Finally the sequester house...boy does Eric hate Zach. Evel is right, Zach is only playing for second place.

Zach saying he's smarter and bigger than Evel. That was funny!

How is Zach only playing for 2nd place? Dick is completely wrong to say that Zach would be lucky to get one vote if he was in the final two with Dick. In that situation, Danielle is the only person that Dick hasn't stabbed in the back (Eric and Jessica) or completely demeaned and insulted (Jen, Dustin, Amber, and Jameka). Dick is the one who will be lucky to get one vote, and thats only because she is his daughter.

For those who are still fooled into thinking Dick is not the worst person this season, he proved it some more tonight. You can always tell a person's true self by how they act when they win. Tonight after Danielle won the veto, Dick's behavior was pathetic. I understand someone being angry when they lose, but if you win and you have to insult the loser instead of just being happy then you have problems.

And what is this attitude toward Zach that he should now be threatened that the Donatos won't take him to the final 2 because he betrayed them. They were NEVER going to chose Zach over each other...they don't even get it.

loubob57

09-12-2007, 06:30 AM

The thing that pisses me off most about ED is that he keeps blathering on about staying true to alliances. Didn't he throw Eric and Jessica "under the bus"?

IndyJones1023

09-12-2007, 07:22 AM

The thing that pisses me off most about ED is that he keeps blathering on about staying true to alliances. Didn't he throw Eric and Jessica "under the bus"?
He "sold them under the bus." :D

Lopey

09-12-2007, 07:26 AM

And what is this attitude toward Zach that he should now be threatened that the Donatos won't take him to the final 2 because he betrayed them. They were NEVER going to chose Zach over each other...they don't even get it.

THANK YOU.. i have been saying this for 2 days... Zach had absolutley nothing to lose by putting them both up. Just because Dani won the POV, doesn't do anything to Zach. He is still in the final 3.

Lopey

09-12-2007, 07:27 AM

He "sold them under the bus." :D

OHHHHHH thank you for clarifying that for me!!

IndyJones1023

09-12-2007, 07:39 AM

THANK YOU.. i have been saying this for 2 days... Zach had absolutley nothing to lose by putting them both up. Just because Dani won the POV, doesn't do anything to Zach. He is still in the final 3.
Exactly. Zach made moves to get as far as he could. If he had done anything else he would have left last night. He might even get final 2 if he wins HoH. It shouldn't matter if everyone votes for a Donato. He can't win anyway. But he's maneuvered himself into 3rd or possibly 2nd. Pretty good for someone "with no game."

TivoFan

09-12-2007, 08:01 AM

THANK YOU.. i have been saying this for 2 days... Zach had absolutley nothing to lose by putting them both up. Just because Dani won the POV, doesn't do anything to Zach. He is still in the final 3.

Actually, he did. Putting both of them up changed nothing. If he had put up Jameka and Danielle, and either Dick or Danielle won the POV, then they vote off Jameka. If he or Jameka won, they could get off Dani. But if he had put up Dani and Jameka and not won the POV at least he keeps good will with D&D and looks like he stays true to his alliance. If he does go into the finals now he loses one key argument, the "I stayed true to my word" argument.

jlb

09-12-2007, 08:30 AM

don't you think that with the people in the jury house, that they would vote Zach over either of the Danato's?

That is what I thought at first. However, my wife brought up a good point last night. Given that Zach missed his real opportunity to get the Donatos out, they may knock him for that and say that while ED really is an a$$, it worked for him, he played a good (albeit dirty and nasty towards people) game and deserves it more than Zach.

I don't necessarily buy it that Zach has purposefully losing competitions until the last minute. If that were the case, he would have pulled the trigger 1 week earlier.

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Regarding Jury house stuff......

Anyone else amazed that Amber did not cry once, at least in the footage they showed?

Anyone else wonder if Eric will still serve as America's player and we'll get the chance to tell Eric who to vote for?

If we did and it was Zach against either of the D's, it would make for come curious looks if there were 2 votes to keep the Donato. I doubt CBS will do this, though. But let's not necessarily assume........ ;)

I know if has not been long enough, or maybe it has (if you think about Romber on Survivor), but wouldn't it be neat if Eric proposed to Jess during the finale?

FLbadgirl

09-12-2007, 08:33 AM

If he does go into the finals now he loses one key argument, the "I stayed true to my word" argument.

Yes but.... Dani and Dick definitely lose that argument too!

gossamer88

09-12-2007, 09:00 AM

Anyone else wonder if Eric will still serve as America's player and we'll get the chance to tell Eric who to vote for?

If we did and it was Zach against either of the D's, it would make for come curious looks if there were 2 votes to keep the Donato. I doubt CBS will do this, though. But let's not necessarily assume........ ;)
Your question answered:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/bigbrother8/americas_player/

mcb08

09-12-2007, 09:05 AM

If we did and it was Zach against either of the D's, it would make for come curious looks if there were 2 votes to keep the Donato. I doubt CBS will do this, though. But let's not necessarily assume........ ;)
You're assuming that no one else would vote for Dani/Dick? I think that Dani would beat Zach for sure.

I know if has not been long enough, or maybe it has (if you think about Romber on Survivor), but wouldn't it be neat if Eric proposed to Jess during the finale?
Considering how long it took him to finally kiss her, a proposal wouldn't happen until at least 2020. ;)

claire_d

09-12-2007, 09:17 AM

Jebberwocky!

09-12-2007, 09:19 AM

What do you think?

Zach vs. Ed - winner is Zach?

Zach vs. Dani - Winner is Dani?

Dani vs. ED - Winner is Dani?

Maybe it is my dislike for ED but I sure hope he doesn't win.

IndyJones1023

09-12-2007, 09:22 AM

If Zach is against either Donato, I'd vote for Zach. He made it to the end and got rid of one of them. :up:

If it's Donato vs. Donato, I'd have to vote for Dick. He ruled that house. He was a total azzhole and no one ever stood up to him.

gossamer88

09-12-2007, 09:27 AM

What do you think?

Zach vs. Ed - winner is Zach?
His only chance is against ED. But the jury house mostly remembers him as a floater and may give it to ED. That would be somethin'!

Topher5000

09-12-2007, 09:56 AM

I missed ED's speech about Zach after the eviction. Chenbot mentioned something about it. What was it Dick said?

AccidenT

09-12-2007, 10:03 AM

Did the players know that the number solution to the POV puzzle was the number of seconds they had been there? If so, I'm surprised no one did the math to get the first 5 or so digits, work backwards to find the face that went with each of those and then only have to worry about the clues for the remaining ones.

IndyJones1023

09-12-2007, 10:04 AM

Did the players know that the number solution to the POV puzzle was the number of seconds they had been there?
Yes they did. But this isn't Genius House. It's Big Brother.

AccidenT

09-12-2007, 10:14 AM

Yes they did. But this isn't Genius House. It's Big Brother.

I didn't realize multiplication was reserved for geniuses :eek:

IndyJones1023

09-12-2007, 10:16 AM

I didn't realize multiplication was reserved for geniuses :eek:
It was more of a comment of the IQ in the house, not on how easy multiplication is.

Besides, when in a pressure situation, people usually follow directions rather than take the time to attack from a different direction.

I mean, the 6-finger plan wasn't devised until season 3 or 4 by Nokomis.

headroll

09-12-2007, 10:58 AM

It was more of a comment of the IQ in the house, not on how easy multiplication is.

Besides, when in a pressure situation, people usually follow directions rather than take the time to attack from a different direction.

I mean, the 6-finger plan wasn't devised until season 3 or 4 by Nokomis.

Funny though, recalling the episode ... I believe at least one houseguests had a "0" as the first digit for a while. I concur, no geniuses.

-Roll

IndyJones1023

09-12-2007, 11:01 AM

Funny though, recalling the episode ... I believe at least one houseguests had a "0" as the first digit for a while. I concur, no geniuses.

-Roll
I think that was Dick.

FLbadgirl

09-12-2007, 11:04 AM

Funny though, recalling the episode ... I believe at least one houseguests had a "0" as the first digit for a while. I concur, no geniuses.

-Roll

I think that was Dick.

No, it wasn't Dick. It was Jameka that had "0" as the first digit in the POV comp.

mwhip

09-12-2007, 11:09 AM

If Zach goes against Dani in the final 2 he will have to have a hell of a speech. Thinking about it though being a floater is probably harder than it seems. You have to at no times pick sides and you have to actually be more sly about who you are teaming with week to week so that it never looks like you are picking sides. Zach is really good at it about as good as Jun was when she won. Of course Jun had probably the 2nd best strategy of anyone ever in BB which was to park herself in the kitchen and keep everyone full and happy. I mean who is not going to vote for the person who fed them all summer?

TriBruin

09-12-2007, 11:13 AM

I think the Danatos deserve to win. I totally hate when people in the house talk about the "good" people... I'm sorry but it's all a game. And ED and Danielle have played the smartest game in the house. They kept their word as much as anyone in the house ever does, so no one can nail them on that.

And Zach is just way way too dumb! I mean, didn't he know that when he was nominating them it was meaningless? So was that "tough" speech just like a speech to the jury house?

I know the people in the jury house don't like Dick or Danielle too much, but I think if either of them is sitting there next to Zach, I think they'd have to admit that Zach doesn't deserve to win.

You can not like them personally or whatever, but they did really do a nice job in the game.

My feeling is that Dani vs. ED, Dani wins. Dani & ED have been playing a good cop/bad cop role since Nick left. Dani has been the brains and the competition winner of the two, but all Dick has done is be a jerk and try to intimidate the other players (and yes it worked sometimes). But, IMHO, he is only still in the house by luck and AP. Eric would have absolutely voted him out over Dustin if AP hadn't cast the vote.

Dani vs. Zach - I still think Dani wins. She has played the better game longer than Zach. Although some HGs may still be pissed she betrayed them, I think they can forgive her.

Zach vs. ED - This is close, but I think Zach wins it here. There are too many people on the Jury that do not like Dick. It goes beyond the simple feeling of betrayal. I don't think the Jury would want to reward his style of "game play".

Skittles

09-12-2007, 11:19 AM

But if he had put up Dani and Jameka and not won the POV at least he keeps good will with D&D and looks like he stays true to his alliance. If he does go into the finals now he loses one key argument, the "I stayed true to my word" argument.Keeping good will with D&D doesn't matter, though.

Realistically speaking, Jameka was going home regardless of who Zach nominated. Jameka and Zach are historically terrible competitors in both the HoH and PoV competitions, whereas D&D both dominated.

One way or another, Jameka was going home last night.

So the good will of D&D doesn't matter, because no matter what Zach does/did, it doesn't make a difference if he makes it into the Final Two. Because if Dick gets voted out, he's voting for Daniele to win. If Daniele gets voted out, she's voting for her father to win. Nothing could change that.

I think Zach killed the alliance when he did because it was his best shot at endearing himself to the other members of the jury, all of whom have been screwed over by the Donatos.

If Zach can manage to win HoH this week (and trust me, I'm chuckling at the prospect) and can take ED to the Final Two... he has a decent shot at winning. He can point out how he never lied to the people who didn't lie to him, and that Dick isn't so much a master strategist as he is a loudmouthed bully who was aggressive and confrontational, to the point of being offensive.

And considering that Jen already hates ED with a passion, she'd vote for him.
Dustin wouldn't vote for ED if his life depended on it.
Jameka will most definitely vote to give Zach the money. He's made a bond with her over religion in the last few weeks.

So all he has to do is sway Jessica or Amber. Then he's $500,000 richer.

That's the only way Zach wins. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the game he's playing for. I think Zach knows his only shot at winning is to go against Dick in the Final Two, and that he's playing for that.

But honestly, I don't expect that to happen. Zach is a poor HoH competitor, especially when it comes to endurance challenges and trivia challenges (which, historically, is how the final HoH showdown goes). I fully expect to see Dick & Daniele in the final two.

HDTivoDesire

09-12-2007, 11:19 AM

Dick is the star of the show. America loves Dick. America's Player will be casting his jury vote for Dick.

I predict Daniele will have no problem winning the bunny hop challenge. It's a lot easier for her to jump because she only weighs 100 lbs (or less). Zach probably weighs over 200 and all that jumping will wear him out the fastest.

unicorngoddess

09-12-2007, 11:31 AM

But honestly, I don't expect that to happen. Zach is a poor HoH competitor, especially when it comes to endurance challenges and trivia challenges (which, historically, is how the final HoH showdown goes). I fully expect to see Dick & Daniele in the final two.

By my count, Zach has won two HOH comps. Which, if I recall correctly, is also how many Dick and Danielle have won also. They all almost seem on level grounds. Danielle is good at trivia/puzzels and Zach and Dick both seem pretty good at physical comps, dispite Dick's age and smoking habit. Round 2 will probably be some kind of puzzle solving comp and round three is usually some kind of trivia.

nvoorhies

09-12-2007, 11:47 AM

Not that i want to take the 'I'm getting my toys and going home attitude', but once Zach was dumb enough to send Eric home (instead of Dani, which was probably the best move he could have done), I've lost interest in the show. I can't stand Dani, she's such a whiney 'poor me' type of person, and ED (while entertaining at times) should be tossed from the show due to encoded messages getting in to him and being physically and verbally abusive. Bah..

Mikkel_Knight

09-12-2007, 12:01 PM

But honestly, I don't expect that to happen. Zach is a poor HoH competitor, especially when it comes to endurance challenges and trivia challenges (which, historically, is how the final HoH showdown goes). I fully expect to see Dick & Daniele in the final two.
To hear him say it though, is that has been his strategy the entire time (lose challenges). :rolleyes:

Skittles

09-12-2007, 12:02 PM

To hear him say it though, is that has been his strategy the entire time (lose challenges). :rolleyes:Didn't he also say, right before that, how he lucked into his last HoH stint? ;) :D

nyny523

09-12-2007, 12:02 PM

I think they should give me the money....

Jebberwocky!

09-12-2007, 12:17 PM

To hear him say it though, is that has been his strategy the entire time (lose challenges). :rolleyes:

Zach looks like a basketball player to me, and that tells me he could do well in physical challanges. When he had to do well (tea challange) he did well.

Mental challanges I'm not giving him much props there.

So I can buy his not trying that hard early on - not a first in BB.

IndyJones1023

09-12-2007, 12:49 PM

...ED (while entertaining at times) should be tossed from the show due to encoded messages getting in to him....
Encoded messages?

TivoDaddy

09-12-2007, 12:50 PM

If Zach is really as smart as he says he is, then the nomination of D&D was for the benefit of the Jury House. Jameka will be taking a copy of the highlights to the rest of the house when she gets there, so [hopefully] they will see how smug and arrogant those two are, and how he "repented" and allied with Jameka.

headroll

09-12-2007, 12:51 PM

Encoded messages?

Calling all spoiler police. Code Red!

-Roll

mcb08

09-12-2007, 12:55 PM

Encoded messages?
Not sure if this is a spoiler or not.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKuLTnVC7w4 )

TriBruin

09-12-2007, 12:59 PM

Dick is the idiot of the show. Autovoters love Dick. Autovoters will be casting his jury vote for Dick.

FYP :D

IndyJones1023

09-12-2007, 01:00 PM

Not sure if this is a spoiler or not.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKuLTnVC7w4 )
Wow. I wonder if BB will address this.

DLiquid

09-12-2007, 01:13 PM

Presumably the reason ED was never voted out is that he's been such an ass that everyone thought they could beat him in the final two. It would be ironic if he goes up against Zach and wins. Looking like you're not able to win would prove to be a winning strategy.

mwhip

09-12-2007, 01:14 PM

Wow. I wonder if BB will address this.

Of course not he's Dick he is America's sweetheart. No amount of personal attacks, iced tea attacks or cigarette attacks will get him out of the house.

bryhamm

09-12-2007, 01:14 PM

Do you people talking about Dani beating Zach in the F2 realize that it will never happen? If Zach wins HOH, he takes ED. If either of D/D wins HOH, they take the other one.

wbrumfiel

09-12-2007, 01:16 PM

Do you people talking about Dani beating Zach in the F2 realize that it will never happen? If Zach wins HOH, he takes ED. If either of D/D wins HOH, they take the other one.
Would you really be that suprised if Dopey Zach takes Danielle based solely on the fact that he hates ED? I wouldn't and as a matter of fact Id probably expect it.

IndyJones1023

09-12-2007, 01:17 PM

Of course not he's Dick he is America's sweetheart. No amount of personal attacks, iced tea attacks or cigarette attacks will get him out of the house.
Personal attacks? Just words. If you don't like it, fight back.

Iced tea "attack?" Yeah, that's borderline. It's just a liquid, but it says something about his state of mind.

Cigarette attack? Jen started that and made the advance on him.

unicorngoddess

09-12-2007, 01:17 PM

FYP :D

I wonder if that problem was fixed. I noticed that after Sprint users were excluded from text voting that the results of AP's votes seemed more favorable to Eric. I'm wondering if they found a way to fix auto voting as well.

mcb08

09-12-2007, 01:19 PM

Do you people talking about Dani beating Zach in the F2 realize that it will never happen? If Zach wins HOH, he takes ED. If either of D/D wins HOH, they take the other one.
It's a slippery slope. If you choose Dick over Dani, are you saying that Dick is a better player than Dani? Are you saying that you can't beat Dani, so you're going to try your luck against Dick? Either way, you're giving the jury food for thought.

mwhip

09-12-2007, 01:24 PM

Personal attacks? Just words. If you don't like it, fight back.

Iced tea "attack?" Yeah, that's borderline. It's just a liquid, but it says something about his state of mind.

Cigarette attack? Jen started that and made the advance on him.

Well the personal attacks yes I agree. When he continues to attack them after they have left the house that is what makes him a ****** bag.

I don't know about the cigarette thing it is borderline for me because he actually blew smoke in her face first. Yes she did try to grab the cigarette but she was not trying to grab him and he retaliated with trying to burn her on purpose. To me that is the same as someone trying to snatch a glass out of your hand and then throwing the glass at them.

uncdrew

09-12-2007, 01:34 PM

Do you people talking about Dani beating Zach in the F2 realize that it will never happen? If Zach wins HOH, he takes ED. If either of D/D wins HOH, they take the other one.

:D

That's a fine point. Obvious, yet I hadn't even thought that.

You're 100% correct.

Dani wins against Dick. She did enough "strategic whining" about her dad being a meanie doesn't mean she's a meanie. That and the record tieing 5 POVs and she will beat either guy.

So personally I'm rooting for Zach to win the last HoH and make this close.

Personally if I were in the jury house I'd pick Zach. Certainly not the smartest or best player, but since I have a vote... I'd vote to not reward Dick for being a jerk.

Dick and Dani had a HUGE advantage in that they played together and had an alliance that could be trusted 100%. No one else had that, and Zach should mention that. Not harp on it, but mention it. Throughout the entire show they had that alliance of two ready to sway votes, change alliances, etc. No one else did. Eric and Jessica kinda did for maybe a week, but it was never solid and with America pulling the strings, really wasn't predictable.

And this last HoH is basically 2 against 1. If he wins that should carry some huge weight with the group. When it really mattered for Zach's survival, he kept himself in the contest by winning HoH. Winning it week 1 -- big whoop. Winning the last one when it's you against a team of 2. That's much more impressive.

unicorngoddess

09-12-2007, 02:14 PM

If I were in the jury and it was D&D in the final two, I think I would vote for Dick...just so I could say, now you don't have to worry about your silly fued over money. :p

TriBruin

09-12-2007, 02:23 PM

Personal attacks? Just words. If you don't like it, fight back. Dick's actions are more than just "words." He attacks people's basic ideas and values (Jameka & Kail's religiois beliefs) or uses terms that are beyond any form of human decency (the "C" word he repeated called Jen.)

BTW, were Jen's comments to Dani about her "fiance" just words too? I hope CBS invites him to the finale! :D

Iced tea "attack?" Yeah, that's borderline. It's just a liquid, but it says something about his state of mind. If he had done that in a Bar, at minimum he would have been thrown out.

Cigarette attack? Jen started that and made the advance on him. After he blew smoke directly in her face. There is still a question whether he Intentional made a motion in her direction with a lit cigerette. Even if he didn't, his lack of remose is unacceptable.

bareyb

09-12-2007, 02:35 PM

Do you people talking about Dani beating Zach in the F2 realize that it will never happen? If Zach wins HOH, he takes ED. If either of D/D wins HOH, they take the other one.
I wouldn't put anything past Danielle. If she thought she had a better chance to win against Zack she would take him to the final two. Thing is, it would make her look terrible and in reality, she probably has an equal chance to win against either one of them. :p

claire_d

09-12-2007, 02:42 PM

I don't watch the feeds or anything, so I'm not like trying to start an argument... but I think that Dick attacks people for being hypocrits, mostly. I mean, I totally believe in God, but to believe that God cares if I win a big brother POV? Or to pray for "vengance" or whatever? That just seems like not what someone should be doing. Anyway, its not a right or wrong thing, its just how I see it.

Seeing how Dick is with Danielle, and how he totally wants to find a way to repair their relationship... that stuff seems really real to me. And that's how I judge him. He seems to me to be the person who has changed the most in the house, and I like that their relationship is a lot better.

I wouldn't be surprised if he and Danielle were in the finals if he lobbied for people to vote for her.

But what do I know? :-)

And this is from a girl's perspective, I know, but I totally don't believe that Zach was not trying in the competitions. I think every year someone tries to say that.

Plus, I don't think he had a strategy to float. I think that mostly people didn't really want to hang out with him and just shunned him. I don't think that was his plan. :-)

unicorngoddess

09-12-2007, 02:53 PM

I just can't figure out why nobody liked Zach. He seems like somebody I would immediately want to buddy up with and align myself with. That kind of muscle could do an alliance some good. I never saw anything on the show or on the feeds that showed why people hate Zach so much. Is it simply because he sucked up to every HOH??? If so, how is that fair? Everyone always sucks up to the HOH.

The thing I can't stand about D&D is how they always get so upset over someone betraying them. Dick will go off on it and throw one of his little fits. But they have done the exact same thing through this whole season. Eric and Jessica are proof of that. They don't keep their word to ANYONE.

Personally, I can't wait until AP is revealed to them and they realize that the reason they were able to stay in the house so long was because of America's vote through Eric.

bareyb

09-12-2007, 05:00 PM

I don't watch the feeds or anything, so I'm not like trying to start an argument... but I think that Dick attacks people for being hypocrits, mostly.

Does that make Dick the pot or the kettle? He's been acting like a bit of a hypocrite himself these days although he at least knows he's doing it. The other folks seem to be in denial about it.

My decision on who should win was based on who won POV last night. If Zack was truly laying low and he came out and just blew everyone away and won the POV, then he was my winner. He did not, and therefore all his talk about throwing prior competitions means nothing. No one will ever know and he didn't show me much in the way of gamesmanship in the POV last night.

It would have been brilliant if he could have pulled that off. Still, who knows what will happen in the big one at the end? My money is on Danielle. She may be a whiney spoiled baby, but she has tied the all time record for wins (with Janelle) and she functions well under extreme pressure. She HAD to win last night and she pulled it off. Danielle deserves to win.

Not sure who WILL win, but I think Danielle has done the most to earn it. I see Danielle and Zack in the final two. Dick will get tired and decide to "throw it" (yeah right) exclaiming that Zack won't be able to win against her. Danielle will likely try and make a deal with Zack that if one of the other of them drop off first they will take the other to the final two. Nobody will take that deal and it will end up being Dani and Zack in the final two. Danielle wins. Unless the jury house pulls a "Danielle" ( the other Danielle from a couple seasons ago) and votes for the person they resent the least and give it to Zack. That would suck, but never underestimate the power of resentment. :p

Jebberwocky!

09-12-2007, 05:18 PM

My decision on who should win was based on who won POV last night. If Zack was truly laying low and he came out and just blew everyone away and won the POV, then he was my winner. He did not, and therefore all his talk about throwing prior competitions means nothing. No one will ever know and he didn't show me much in the way of gamesmanship in the POV last night.

becuase Zach sucked at the POV comp doesn't mean he wasn't throwing the previous ones. THis challange was a mental one and I don't think Zach is the sharpest knife in the drawer. Had it been physical, that would have been the true test of his claim.

unicorngoddess

09-12-2007, 05:19 PM

If Zack was truly laying low and he came out and just blew everyone away and won the POV, then he was my winner. He did not, and therefore all his talk about throwing prior competitions means nothing. No one will ever know and he didn't show me much in the way of gamesmanship in the POV last night.

Unless he was doing it for jury votes. By not nominating Jameka, he gains her trust and bonds with her. If he won POV and didn't use it, then D&D would never give him a vote. HOWEVER, knowing that Jameka had a strong probability of going home, by putting up D&D and throwing the veto to let either Dick or Danielle do the dirty work, he comes out looking clean because jameka is the only possible replacement nominee.

uncdrew

09-12-2007, 05:51 PM

becuase Zach sucked at the POV comp doesn't mean he wasn't throwing the previous ones. THis challange was a mental one and I don't think Zach is the sharpest knife in the drawer. Had it been physical, that would have been the true test of his claim.

Lots of competition in the brain power events if Danielle is winning them. :p

It would be nice if they included some contestents who thought "ok, the first digit must be a 6 because we've been here 74 days and 74 times 24 times 60..."

Oh well. I suppose those people all have jobs they can't leave. :)

TivoFan

09-12-2007, 06:22 PM

I just can't figure out why nobody liked Zach.

He's one of those people who are socially awkward. You know the kind who hangs around after the party is over and won't take the hint to go home.

nyny523

09-12-2007, 06:26 PM

He's one of those people who are socially awkward. You know the kind who hangs around after the party is over and won't take the hint to go home.
And he's dumb.

bareyb

09-12-2007, 06:55 PM

Unless he was doing it for jury votes. By not nominating Jameka, he gains her trust and bonds with her. If he won POV and didn't use it, then D&D would never give him a vote. HOWEVER, knowing that Jameka had a strong probability of going home, by putting up D&D and throwing the veto to let either Dick or Danielle do the dirty work, he comes out looking clean because jameka is the only possible replacement nominee.

Yeah. That crossed my mind, but I don't think Zack thought it through that much. I think he really wanted to win. I think he would have said something to that effect if he had really "thrown" it. I would've liked to see a grand slam out of him and it would have probably won him the game. As it stands, my money is still on Danielle to win it all if she ends up in the final two. Zack just hasn't done enough to overthrow her game. At least not yet. He may end up winning the endurance event and that just might be enough to sway the jury if he picks Dick to be in the final two with him.

Either way, this has been an exciting game and I'm not that invested in any one person to win it. Danielle would be the obvious choice, but I love a good upset if it's based on reason and not resentment. If Zack can win the final HOH he just may have done enough to pull out the win. If Danielle wins it, then Zacks probably out, but I guess we will see. Like I said, I don't put it past Dani to throw her Dad out the game if she thinks it will help her win.

Dnamertz

09-12-2007, 10:25 PM

Jameka and Zach are historically terrible competitors in both the HoH and PoV competitions, whereas D&D both dominated.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! Danielle dominated, Dick just did OK. If you actually think about it, if Zach makes final 2 it will be because he wins the last HOH. This would give him a total of 3 HoH's and 1 Veto. Compared to Dick's 2 HoH's and 1 Veto. So, despite all the incorrect claims that Dick is a better player than Zach, Zach won more competitions, and pissed off less jury members along the way. Plus he was smarter by waiting until the end to win the comps (which it appears he did when you consider winning 3 of the last 4 HoH's that he was eligible for), thus not putting a target on his back. If any jury member considers someone who won 3 of the last 4 HoH's that he was eligible for to be a "floater" then they are an idiot.

uncdrew

09-12-2007, 10:43 PM

He's one of those people who are socially awkward. You know the kind who hangs around after the party is over and won't take the hint to go home.

That's a perfect description. :)

ScottE22

09-13-2007, 12:46 PM

mwhip

09-13-2007, 01:04 PM

If I were Zach and I didn't win the last HoH, I have to say I'd beg for them to let me walk out the door and go to the jury house. He'll be 100% certain to be evicted -- why should he have to sit and listen to ED's drama for another second?

I think they are doing an eviction tomorrow night. The first part HoH was Tuesday night and the 2nd was yesterday. The two who won parts 1 and 2 will face off tonight with HoH evicting after the comp leaving two until Tuesday's finale. At least I think that is how they did it last year when Boogie won final HoH and the evicted Janelle.

unicorngoddess

09-13-2007, 01:31 PM

Is there going to be a show on Sunday?

TriBruin

09-13-2007, 01:55 PM

Is there going to be a show on Sunday?

According to Chenbot on Tuesday, Sunday's show will be a "highlights" show.

ScottE22

09-13-2007, 01:56 PM

Is there going to be a show on Sunday?

Yeah - if they do an eviction Thursday and the finale is Tuesday, will we even need a Sunday show? Hard to imagine making an hour of ED harassing Zach or ED and Daniele gloating about how smart they are.

TriBruin

09-13-2007, 01:56 PM

I think they are doing an eviction tomorrow night. The first part HoH was Tuesday night and the 2nd was yesterday. The two who won parts 1 and 2 will face off tonight with HoH evicting after the comp leaving two until Tuesday's finale. At least I think that is how they did it last year when Boogie won final HoH and the evicted Janelle.

I think you meant to say the eviction was tonight. The eviction will happen right after part three of the HOH competition.