Tivo INCREASE the AD's!!!

[BlackBetty]

I like being able to choose to view an Ad that may interest me. Also I love the fact that TiVo Inc is finding additional revenue streams so that there future looks brighter and that we may see continued advances in TiVo software and hardware.

[GoHokies!]

Bravo!

[20TIL6]

:up: :up: :up:

Imagine if TiVo can transform the management and consumption of currently undesired content (advertising) to the extent that they have transformed the management and consumption of desired content.

[BlackBetty]

I can't wait for the day that TiVo starts using my zip code to beam location specific ads straight to my TiVo.

[alansplace]

well said! :)
--
Alan :D

[steve614]

Yes!!!! Anything to keep the monthly rates from going higher.

[richsadams]

I like being able to choose to view an Ad that may interest me. Also I love the fact that TiVo Inc is finding additional revenue streams so that there future looks brighter and that we may see continued advances in TiVo software and hardware. +1 :up:

Hey, does anyone remember when a commercial would come on for an upcoming TV show and suddenly the TiVo "thumbs up" logo would appear? You could push "select" (I think...maybe "thumbs up" :confused: ) on the remote and it would instantly take you to the screen to record the show, set an SP, etc.? Whatever happened to those? I liked them. If you paid attention you could even see them while FF through the commercials.

They still do that with some of the downloaded preview material, but I haven't seen it on "real" TV for ages. Or am I having one of those unfortunate flashback’s that aren't quite based on reality? ;)

[steve614]

I still see those thumbs up suggestions every now and then and when I do, they're usually on FOX.

[jjaszewski]

I still see those thumbs up suggestions every now and then and when I do, they're usually on FOX.

yeah, they're usually on fox when they advertise new shows. i bet we'll see them more with the new fall season.

[richsadams]

I still see those thumbs up suggestions every now and then and when I do, they're usually on FOX.Phew...glad I'm not losing it. :rolleyes: We'll probably see them when "24" returns. Wish they'd invest in them elsewhere.

[mick66]

yeah, they're usually on fox

That's why you don't see them. FOX keeps canceling all the good shows.

Burn in hell FOX!
somebody had to say it.

[RoyK]

That's why you don't see them. FOX keeps canceling all the good shows.

Burn in hell FOX!
somebody had to say it.

Wow! I don't find much I want to watch on Fox but isn't it possible you are putting it just a little strongly> :eek:

[ZeoTiVo]

I can't wait for the day that TiVo starts using my zip code to beam location specific ads straight to my TiVo.
Complain all you want but until you buy more TiVo DVRs I wont take you seriously.

[BlackBetty]

Complain all you want but until you buy more TiVo DVRs I wont take you seriously.

? you lost me. I have 4 TiVo DVR's, if I buy anymore without swapping them out the significant other will murder me.

[mick66]

Wow! I don't find much I want to watch on Fox but isn't it possible you are putting it just a little strongly> :eek:

Wow, you've been a member of this forum for three years and have no clue about how often that phrase is used in this place?

and of course you don't find much to watch on FOX, they cancel all of their good shows before they've had a chance. Hence the popularity of that phrase.

[ldudek]

Maybe it's because I'm new but I thought that this thread was going to launch into a campaign to get TiVo to increase advertisement on television on it's own product. The "masses" out there who think they have a TiVo but what they have a piece of crap cable company issued DVR need to be informed as to exactly how much better TiVo is then what they are currently using.

Now I'm not an ad man (or Mad Man as AMC puts it) but I think an entertaining and informative ad about the differences would be beneficial to TiVo.

[Soapm]

Wow, you've been a member of this forum for three years and have no clue about how often that phrase is used in this place?

and of course you don't find much to watch on FOX, they cancel all of their good shows before they've had a chance. Hence the popularity of that phrase.

They show MASH, what else do you need?

[Lazlo123]

That's why you don't see them. FOX keeps canceling all the good shows.

Burn in hell FOX!
somebody had to say it.

:up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[RoyK]

They show MASH, what else do you need?

I remember all the MASH shows from the original airings. As a matter of fact I have one of the scripts from the final episode signed by the cast.

[robm15]

This is a excellent Post!!! I agree with BlackBetty!

[steve614]

Maybe it's because I'm new but I thought that this thread was going to launch into a campaign to get TiVo to increase advertisement on television on it's own product. The "masses" out there who think they have a TiVo but what they have a piece of crap cable company issued DVR need to be informed as to exactly how much better TiVo is then what they are currently using.

Now I'm not an ad man (or Mad Man as AMC puts it) but I think an entertaining and informative ad about the differences would be beneficial to TiVo.
:D
I can see how just looking at the title coupled with the fact* that you don't see that many Tivo TV ads would give you this impression.

*I can't even recall if I've EVER seen a Tivo TV ad (on TV, that is. I have seen "commercials" that were linked to from this forum).

[Amnesia]

Maybe it's because I'm new but I thought that this thread was going to launch into a campaign to get TiVo to increase advertisement on television on it's own product. This thread was created to counter the "Tivo STOP the AD's" (sic) thread.

[Bsteenson]

More ads ... more ads ... more ads ... more ads ...

[ZeoTiVo]

? you lost me. I have 4 TiVo DVR's, if I buy anymore without swapping them out the significant other will murder me.
well if you want TiVo to have more ads then complaining about it here wont do any good but buying more TiVo DVRs and subs will get the interest of more advertisers for TiVo and generate more ads

[jfh3]

Well, there is Product Watch, but that seems to have died on the vine. :(

[BlackBetty]

well if you want TiVo to have more ads then complaining about it here wont do any good but buying more TiVo DVRs and subs will get the interest of more advertisers for TiVo and generate more ads

:D

[Chester_Lampwick]

Well, there is Product Watch, but that seems to have died on the vine. :(

Yeah, that's too bad. I was just navigating around that today. What happened? I'd really like some content there. I also watch some of the Tech TiVocasts looking for reviews on products. I need some downloadable advertising content too!

[TiVoEvan74]

I would actually like ads every minute during the shows I watch... and there should be products placed within every scene--e.g., of CSI--with flashing TiVo logos superimposed. Press the select button and you get to watch the ad... watch 10 or more during a show and they'll reduce your monthly fee by 25 cents.

Oh, to make it even better, the shows should be interrupted with commercials that last, say 2-3 minutes, and commercial skip should be disabled. We could all enjoy the nostalgia of watching live TV a la 1970s. What fun! :)

[JJ]

Ultimate
fanboy/fangirl thread...

[BlackBetty]

Ultimate
fanboy/fangirl thread...


Thanks for joining.

[mchips]

I like being able to choose to view an Ad that may interest me. Also I love the fact that TiVo Inc is finding additional revenue streams so that there future looks brighter and that we may see continued advances in TiVo software and hardware.
+1 Well said... :up: (and I hope you're not just being sarcastic)

I'd rather see ads than to see their service rates go up, and I'm still paying the same service rates that I began paying when I got my first TiVo's over four years ago now; granted, we have to sign up for a 3-year commitment now to get those same rates, but those same rates are still available, and I hope and plan to continue using TiVo for many years to come anyway, well over 3 years.

___
As far as the FOX discussion, I agree that FOX appears to be the network to cancel new shows the quickest.

However, there are currently four programs on FOX that I watch regularly that are doing well on FOX, and three new series (two this fall, and one for mid-season) that I'm looking forward to, and am hoping they end up being as good as they sound, and am hoping they don't get the ax too quickly if I do end up liking them.

[Chester_Lampwick]

Ultimate
fanboy/fangirl thread...

Not actually. I grudgingly bought myself a PS3, for playing with my much younger brother when he comes over. First thing I did? Watched movie trailers...

[Dr_Diablo]

Ougtta do a poll an see jus how many folks are pro on adds or not...

Frankly, it's all good... If an add isn't something you are interested in then move on...

[Chester_Lampwick]

Ask and ye shall receive. After watching "Motorweek this morning the regular keep/delete this episode dialog gave me a third option to check out the CNet TiVoCast. Interesting, but not totally relevant.

[BlackBetty]

+1 Well said... :up: (and I hope you're not just being sarcastic)

No sarcasm at all.

[Soapm]

Maybe...

No, well possibly...

Why don't we get a commercial channel... A channel with nothing but commercials... You can even back up the video if you miss the 800#...

[pkscout]

mini bump.

I didn't want this thread to get too far from it's evil twin. :D

[alansh]

I'd actually like to see more movie trailers.

[DCIFRTHS]

TiVo: Please don't junk up/cheapen an otherwise beautiful interface with (more) ads.

[BobCamp1]

....and commercial skip should be disabled. We could all enjoy the nostalgia of watching live TV a la 1970s. What fun! :)

Actually, I know you were joking, but Time Warner does offer a DVR that does this (or doesn't do this, I guess). The fast forward button is disabled. And all your recorded programs automatically delete themselves after 24 hours. It is free (as in no monthly fee or upfront cost).

As far as Tivo, I could care less about the yellow star ads. They can have as many as they want. It's the ads shown during playback that I don't like.

[richsadams]

Actually, I know you were joking, but Time Warner does offer a DVR that does this (or doesn't do this, I guess). The fast forward button is disabled. And all your recorded programs automatically delete themselves after 24 hours. It is free (as in no monthly fee or upfront cost).

As far as Tivo, I could care less about the yellow star ads. They can have as many as they want. It's the ads shown during playback that I don't like.+ 1 :up:

[Atomike]

This is either the most sarcastic thread in the history of the internet, or there are many many Tivo stockholders here - terrified that Tivo is losing money and will soon die.
Regardless, how any sane person would WANT their user interface marred by corporate sludge shows exactly how insane many people are around here. Amazingly unsophisticated in their desire for technological elegance. There is no other way to say it - if you want more ads, you're a fool. Personally, I enjoy a slick, CLEAN user interface.
Some people have no standards apparently. I laugh at you all. Hahahahah. Go make me a sandwich.

[Amnesia]

(...) or there are many many Tivo stockholders here - terrified that Tivo is losing money and will soon die.You don't need to be a stockholder to worry about TiVo's financial stability...all of us who like the TiVo service/UI/feature set want the company to stay healthy.

[mchips]

You don't need to be a stockholder to worry about TiVo's financial stability...all of us who like the TiVo service/UI/feature set want the company to stay healthy.
+1 :up:

[CharlesH]

Regardless, how any sane person would WANT their user interface marred by corporate sludge shows exactly how insane many people are around here. Amazingly unsophisticated in their desire for technological elegance. There is no other way to say it - if you want more ads, you're a fool.There are yellow-star entries on the main menu, additional lines in the "delete" confirmation, "thumbs up" popup on some commercials, and static popups that overlay commercials as you fast-forward through them. Were exactly is the obnoxious stuff? :confused:

[Atomike]

There are yellow-star entries on the main menu, additional lines in the "delete" confirmation, "thumbs up" popup on some commercials, and static popups that overlay commercials as you fast-forward through them. Were exactly is the obnoxious stuff?

Hahah. Yes, very good. Thank you for making my point perfectly, although ironically.

[BobCamp1]

Well, it's a trade-off. If one more yellow star results in a $5/month price drop, most people would accept that. If there are 20 more yellow stars that only result in a $0.20 price drop, people won't accept that.

I have no idea how Atomike posts in this forum. Didn't he see the banner ads on top of the screen? It must be killing him. Does he ever wonder why he doesn't need to give his credit card number before using this forum?

[RoyK]

...
I have no idea how Atomike posts in this forum. Didn't he see the banner ads on top of the screen? It must be killing him. Does he ever wonder why he doesn't need to give his credit card number before using this forum?

There are banner ads on top of the screen? Oh yeah I forgot about adblock plus :)

[Atomike]

I have no idea how Atomike posts in this forum. Didn't he see the banner ads on top of the screen? It must be killing him. Does he ever wonder why he doesn't need to give his credit card number before using this forum?

If I paid $300 lifetime fee for the forum, and there were banner ads too, then your analogy might start to make sense. As it stands, you are making my point for me again. Thank you. You folks are just silly. Again, I mock you. And where's my sandwich?

[MaryT]

You don't need to be a stockholder to worry about TiVo's financial stability...all of us who like the TiVo service/UI/feature set want the company to stay healthy.
+1

I've been a very happy Tivo owner since early 2000. I can't imagine TV without it.

A few lines on the main screen don't bother me in the slightest. I don't even consider them ads.

What I do is play them all when I'm not watching so Tivo gets the credit for it.

I WANT Tivo as a company to continue to exist, and ads not only help keep our rates down, but also gives them revenue.

[control-z]

Whatever ads are there aren't bothering me, as long as I can watch shows unimpeded and whenever I want, I say bring them on.

I also pay monthly service instead of pre-paying because I figure that does my slight part to keep Tivo afloat.

[steve614]

If I paid $300 lifetime fee for the forum, and there were banner ads too, then your analogy might start to make sense. As it stands, you are making my point for me again. Thank you. You folks are just silly. Again, I mock you. And where's my sandwich?
I see where you're coming from.
My view is, as a lifetime Tivo owner, I can tolerate the ads because I don't have to pay monthly fees.
If I did have to pay monthly, I might feel differently.

[myriadian]

I can't wait for the day that TiVo starts using my zip code to beam location specific ads straight to my TiVo.

to tell you the truth, i would be all for this. Local information is the only important information to people. I'd love to know about local energy production, farmers markets within a 3 metro stop radius, sales at stores within same radius etc.

James

[wolflord11]

Why would I want to pay Tivo a Monthly Fee just to watch more and more ads?

My Tivo is to watch recorded shows that I have chosen to record, not to sit around and watch ads.

[BlackBetty]

to tell you the truth, i would be all for this. Local information is the only important information to people. I'd love to know about local energy production, farmers markets within a 3 metro stop radius, sales at stores within same radius etc.

James


I believe this is the hidden potential of TiVo that could turn TiVo into a Google. They now our location, and they know our tv watching interest's. Harness that with some specific advertising from local companies. Now thats powerful advertising.

[wolflord11]

This is either the most sarcastic thread in the history of the internet, or there are many many Tivo stockholders here - terrified that Tivo is losing money and will soon die.
Regardless, how any sane person would WANT their user interface marred by corporate sludge shows exactly how insane many people are around here. Amazingly unsophisticated in their desire for technological elegance. There is no other way to say it - if you want more ads, you're a fool. Personally, I enjoy a slick, CLEAN user interface.
Some people have no standards apparently. I laugh at you all. Hahahahah. Go make me a sandwich.

I must agree with you my Brother. Us Sane people must stick together on this Board.

And what must be described as the most brillant description ever written:

"Amazingly unsophisticated in their desire for technological elegance"

You are a Scholar and a Gentleman.

[Rebate_King]

I must agree with you my Brother. Us Sane people must stick together on this Board.

And what must be described as the most brillant description ever written:

"Amazingly unsophisticated in their desire for technological elegance"

You are a Scholar and a Gentleman.


Get a room!

[mchips]

You are a Scholar and a Gentleman.
Quite the oxymoron, or rather, quite the contradiction...

Saying things like,

"You folks are just silly. Again, I mock you."

and

"Some people have no standards apparently. I laugh at you all. Hahahahah."

Is far from being a gentleman, and shows lack of any scholarly-like mature or adult-like discussion or debate, but is instead more typical of child-like taunting behavior...

[ZeoTiVo]

I must agree with you my Brother. Us Sane people must stick together on this Board.

And what must be described as the most brillant description ever written:

"Amazingly unsophisticated in their desire for technological elegance"

You are a Scholar and a Gentleman.
so what is the tipping point where you two sophisticated gents stop using the Tivo Interface?

[riddick21]

This is either the most sarcastic thread in the history of the internet, or there are many many Tivo stockholders here - terrified that Tivo is losing money and will soon die.
Regardless, how any sane person would WANT their user interface marred by corporate sludge shows exactly how insane many people are around here. Amazingly unsophisticated in their desire for technological elegance. There is no other way to say it - if you want more ads, you're a fool. Personally, I enjoy a slick, CLEAN user interface.
Some people have no standards apparently. I laugh at you all. Hahahahah. Go make me a sandwich.

So your sane because your infuriated by one line of text? It's not like these are pop up ads that get in the way of watching your shows. When you agreed to pay for TiVo service no where did it say that TiVo will not advertise on your box. Advertising is a revenue stream for TiVo and the only reason they should give it up is if people are willing to pay more for no ads or if people aren't willing to buy the product because of the ads. Do I like advertising? For the most part no, but if its for a product that I would like to be informed about or if its entertaining, then I don't mind them. Think about it, if TiVo makes 1 million from ads getting rid of them means they need to make that money some other way and the only other revenue stream for TiVo is us. Vote with your wallet instead of coming on here and bitching. If you don't like TiVo's business model then don't by their product. If enough people feel the same way as you (judging from the responses in this thread they don't) then Tivo will change their business model.

[jrm01]

I have always felt that Tivo should sell this type of advertising on the "pay-per-click" model. They would get revenue everytime someone clicked on the ad.

As long as the one-line ads don't steal real-estate that could be better used, and aren't obtrusive I see no problem with them.

Personally, I rarely see them since I click twice on the Tivo button and twice on the Page Up button while my TV is still warming up. By the time I have a picture I am at the Now Playing screen with the most recent addition highlighted.

If I want to set a recording I click Tivo, Scroll Down twice and enter and I barely see the Main Menu flash on the screen.

[megazone]

I have no fundamental objection to advertising, and, in fact, I *like* receiving some ads - I signed up for some categories in Product Watch for example, and I'm sorry that it seems to be dormant, if not dead. What I don't like are pointless ads - I'm a 36 year old male and I live alone. I don't give a damn about 'feminine hygiene products', children's products, products for the elderly, etc. But I do like movies, and I'm all for movie promos and previews being loaded on my TiVo for me to check out - and those are ads. I'm into technology and gadgets, and if you want to show me ads for a new smartphone, etc, I'll probably watch it. I like music and I'd be game for ads for new release albums, especially if I could listen to some of the tracks and then buy it if I like it.

The point is, I'd be all for more ads - if they were well targeted. Let me select categories, and then even 'rate' ads so it can learn what I like just as TiVo Suggestions does. In fact, you could start by developing a profile based on what people watch. I watch a lot of SciFi and science and technology shows - you could deduce I'm probably a good candidate for gadget ads and promos for new scifi movies, etc.

I don't have a problem with the types of ads TiVo currently has in their interface. Sometimes I watch them, sometimes I don't. I have no interest in American Express, but when they have movie promos I tend to check it out. I don't watch football, so NFL ads get ignored - but info on new cars I'll check out. (Cars are like big gadgets.) I don't find it intrusive to have a simple menu item that I can take or leave as I choose. I would not be willing to pay more to avoid those ads.

I do think it could be taken too far - flashy banner ads or 'interstitials' would get annoying. Forcing users to watch video ads, like some DVDs, would be unacceptable. But TiVo has been good at staying on the right side of the line to avoid driving away the majority of users.

[shaown]

More Ads! (but non intrusively done)
I was so excited to see the IBM ads :)
-Shaown

[richsadams]

<snip> I don't find it intrusive to have a simple menu item that I can take or leave as I choose. I would not be willing to pay more to avoid those ads.

I do think it could be taken too far - flashy banner ads or 'interstitials' would get annoying. Forcing users to watch video ads, like some DVDs, would be unacceptable. But TiVo has been good at staying on the right side of the line to avoid driving away the majority of users. Well said! +1 :up: