View Full Version : TiVo HD Drive update
dammad
08-24-2007, 02:49 PM
I see some instructions around on the net for updates to large internal drives (such as those on WeaKnees).
Do these work for TiVo HDs (Series 3 Lite) also? Has anyone tried?
Dammad
jmpage2
08-24-2007, 03:28 PM
www.mfslive.org
Create an account for the forums. All the info you need is there. You can also search here as there are several threads about this.
Dr_Diablo
08-24-2007, 07:57 PM
I see some instructions around on the net for updates to large internal drives (such as those on WeaKnees).
Do these work for TiVo HDs (Series 3 Lite) also? Has anyone tried?
Dammad
As is the case with any "new" tech toys, it takes time for the vendors to catch up to the masses...
My number one drawback is the voiding of the warranty, not to mention drives aren't available...
Doesn't weakness show upgraded drives for the Tivo HD?
orlickg
08-24-2007, 09:53 PM
I have a Weaknees upgraded Tivo HD. It works great and they offer an extended warranty. I also had a DirecTV upgraded unit form them as well and it worked great.
My number one drawback is the voiding of the warranty, not to mention drives aren't available...
Voiding of the warranty I understand, but what do you mean "drives aren't available"?
Seagate DB35 drives (500GB or 750GB) and Hitachi (1TB) drives are readily available and have been used sucessfully by many, myself included.
dammad
08-25-2007, 11:44 PM
Thanks, I'll check out mfslive.
Anyone know if it is possible to upgrade without loosing the configuration/programs? I've not seen this option anywhere yet.
dammad
08-26-2007, 12:01 AM
mfslive has all the info and enables me to keep the existing programs/settings. Great. Many thanks.
...number one drawback is the voiding of the warranty...Not in any practical sense.
Dr_Diablo
08-26-2007, 07:56 AM
Voiding of the warranty I understand, but what do you mean "drives aren't available"?
Seagate DB35 drives (500GB or 750GB) and Hitachi (1TB) drives are readily available and have been used sucessfully by many, myself included.
Drives for the Tivo HD, just to upgrade the Series 3 units...
My hats off to anyone brave nuff to swap out an internal drive. I prefer to add an second drive via the SATA port
Drives for the Tivo HD, just to upgrade the Series 3 units...
What?? :confused: :confused: :confused:
My hats off to anyone brave nuff to swap out an internal drive. I prefer to add an second drive via the SATA port
It's an eSATA port :) I can understand why many would consider adding an external drive to be preferable, but also consider that it is still a second drive and another point of failure in daily operation. I'd rather have a single 750GB drive in a box than a 250GB internal and a 500GB external (or whatever).
As for the doing the upgrade, it's tough to imagine how it could be any easier, as long as you are comfortable opening up the Tivo and have a PC with an available power and SATA connector, though it does void the Tivo warranty.
richsadams
08-26-2007, 10:29 AM
Drives for the Tivo HD, just to upgrade the Series 3 units...
My hats off to anyone brave nuff to swap out an internal drive. I prefer to add an second drive via the SATA port Fortunately or unfortunately (depending on your perspective) eSATA is not an option for TiVo HD's at this time.
Swapping out a formatted TiVo HDD takes about 10 minutes. Formatting your own and installing it takes about 20 minutes (or less) depending on how much coffee one drinks. ;)
gschoen
08-26-2007, 10:36 AM
People have been upgrading drives since the dawn of Tivo (well, maybe not that long.) I fondly remember carefully following Hinsdale's instructions for my first Series 1 DirecTivo.
If you can put a hard drive into your computer, you have the skill to upgrade your Tivo drive. It's that easy and lots of step by step instructions are available.
jmpage2
08-26-2007, 12:54 PM
Anyone who is having second thoughts and doubts about upgrading the drive in their Tivo probably shouldn't do it (not everyone has PC repair skills).
On the other hand, if said person has a friend or co-worker who knows the innards of PCs well enough to do the operation for them, a 12 pack of the beverage of their choice works wonders for getting such things done (beverage to be enjoyed AFTER successful upgrade naturally). ;)
Anyone who is having second thoughts and doubts about upgrading the drive in their Tivo probably shouldn't do it (not everyone has PC repair skills).
On the other hand, if said person has a friend or co-worker who knows the innards of PCs well enough to do the operation for them, a 12 pack of the beverage of their choice works wonders for getting such things done (beverage to be enjoyed AFTER successful upgrade naturally). ;)
I'll do it for 6 .... :D
If you aren't comfortable opening up your computer and mucking with a few cables, upgrading yourself isn't for you. But there is always to option of getting a pre-upgraded drive from weaknees or dvrupgrade (the swap out part in the Tivo is a bit easier than the PC part). If you are totally uncomfortable with opening a case, then it's wait until later in the year when Tivo releases their plug and play external drive and enables eSATA support.
quarque
08-26-2007, 05:45 PM
What?? :confused: :confused: :confused:
It's an eSATA port :) I can understand why many would consider adding an external drive to be preferable, but also consider that it is still a second drive and another point of failure in daily operation. I'd rather have a single 750GB drive in a box than a 250GB internal and a 500GB external (or whatever).
As for the doing the upgrade, it's tough to imagine how it could be any easier, as long as you are comfortable opening up the Tivo and have a PC with an available power and SATA connector, though it does void the Tivo warranty.
In another thread the chip snoopers have decided that the external esata port is a *split* not a separate channel. This would degrade the performance if you add a second external drive. Internal upgrade is the way to go unless they are thinking of a RAID setup. A proper RAID config would not degrade performance.
bkdtv
08-26-2007, 07:05 PM
In another thread the chip snoopers have decided that the external esata port is a *split* not a separate channel. This would degrade the performance if you add a second external drive.Well that is true, it is completely unknown what impact this will have on Tivo responsiveness. It may have no perceivable impact whatsoever.
In another thread the chip snoopers have decided that the external esata port is a *split* not a separate channel. This would degrade the performance if you add a second external drive. Internal upgrade is the way to go unless they are thinking of a RAID setup. A proper RAID config would not degrade performance.
True, though I'm pretty sure someone pointed out that would have an insignificant impact on performance.
joneSi
08-26-2007, 09:44 PM
Drives for the Tivo HD, just to upgrade the Series 3 units...
My hats off to anyone brave nuff to swap out an internal drive. I prefer to add an second drive via the SATA port
This is SUPER easy to do. Really, really, really simple...I'd say the hardest part was getting at the tricky screw at the front part of the case (I should go and get a screwdriver torx 8 or whatever number it is, instead of an all in one).
For those that are afraid of a little Linux, WinMFS is now available for anybody running Windows 2000 and up (with some service packs installed, mind you). I did the good 'ol Linux way, but I'm going to 'de-drive' my tivo tomorrow to check out the 'Supersize option' to have a few more hours (can you really ever have enough?).
joneSi
JANNINO
08-27-2007, 12:01 PM
OK - Where are these supposed instructions on upgrading the hard drives on the new HD Tivo units? :confused:
I have not yet purchased my HD Tivo units yet as I am still with Directv (I am still running my Microsoft Ultimate TV units which I upgraded years ago) but will be swtiching to Fios in the next month or two.. The UTV upgrade was easy but I had really good instructions (the old blind squirrel ones for those who may remember).
I need to upgrade my HD Tivos when I get them (the wife watches TONS of TV), but unsure if I should do it myself or buy new upgraded units from DVRUpgrade.com (they are cheaper than weeknees). I looked at their prices and when you take into account the price of the HD Tivo and the hard drive, essentially they get about $100 for the upgrade.
Questions for everyone:
1). Are there any instructions out there on how to upgrade the hard drive for the new HD Tivos?
2). If not, what is everyone's opinion on DVRUpgrade? Have you used them before? Are they reliable?
Thanks for you help in advance.
jmpage2
08-27-2007, 12:24 PM
The closest thing to idiot proof instructions is the "quick guide" at www.mfslive.org for the winmfs software.
This tells you how to copy the drive from a Series 3 or Tivo HD to a new virgin drive. It does not tell you how to remove the drive from the Tivo, etc, allthough in their quick guide for their bootable CD there are some instructions for hookup of the SATA drive to your PC motherboard.
I paid $99 for my 500GB Hitachi Deskstar drive which I then ran the acoustic management software on and installed in my Tivo HD. dvrupgrade.com wants $299 for a 500GB upgrade. So, it's more like triple the cost of doing it myself. DVRupgrade wants $599 for a 500GB Tivo HD. I paid $218 for my Tivo HD + $99 for the bigger HD. So in that case it's $300 more than doing it myself.
bkdtv
08-27-2007, 12:56 PM
I see some instructions around on the net for updates to large internal drives (such as those on WeaKnees).
Do these work for TiVo HDs (Series 3 Lite) also? Has anyone tried?Yes. The WinMFS upgrade program works for the TivoHD and Tivo Series3.
Instructions Summary Remove the outer case and existing drive using a torx screwdriver in the T10 size. If you don't have one of appropriate length, you can purchase the Star Driver T10 Ampro (9014713) from Advance Auto Parts for about $4.
Download WinMFS here (http://www.mfslive.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=207).
Shut down Windows and attach original TiVo drive. You can open your computer and attach it with a SATA cable, or attach it externally using a SATA->USB adapter like this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812186020).
Boot to Windows XP (SP2) or Vista, run WinMFS, and click 'Select Drive' to select the drive you attached.
In WinMFS, click the 'Backup' option. Save the file to your hard drive.
Shut down the computer and attach the new, larger drive. You can disconnect the original Tivo drive.
Turn your computer back on, run WinMFS, and click the 'Restore' option. Select the file you saved to your hard drive in step #5.
You're done. Install the new drive in the TivoHD.
Detailed Instructions (http://www.mfslive.org/winmfs/)
Note that won't backup your existing recordings. The "Backup" option in WinMFS just backs up the Tivo software and your configuration, not the recordings.
If you want to backup your recordings too,then you need to choose the MFSCopy option in WinMFS which requires that the original Tivo drive and new drive be connected at the same time -- in which case you may want 2x SATA -> USB adapters (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812186020).
Be sure to purchase a hard drive with appropriate noise output and heat dissipation. Many retail drives will make your TivoHD sound like a jet engine. You can buy the same quiet Seagate DB35 drives used by Weaknees right here (http://www.shareasale.com/r.cfm?u=215820&b=39111&m=8297&afftrack=db35&urllink=www%2Ethenerds%2Enet%2Findex%2Ephp%3Fpage%3Desearch% 26action%3DQuery%26keyword%3Ddb35). For the TivoHD and Series3, you need the SCE version, available in 500Gb ($150) and 750Gb ($265) sizes.
If you want to buy a drive locally, ask in the forum for recommendations on quiet drives.
richsadams
08-27-2007, 01:57 PM
Excellent summary...thanks for that! :up:
Note that the order listed for bkdtv will not copy your existing programs over.
To do that, you'll need to attach both drives at the same time and use mfscopy instead of restore.
mazman
08-27-2007, 10:07 PM
Note that the order listed for bkdtv will not copy your existing programs over.
To do that, you'll need to attach both drives at the same time and use mfscopy instead of restore.
What if you have only 2 SATA connectors - couldn't you use MFSCOPY to backup your recordings to the windows drive, then (after connecting the new drive) restore to the new drive?
What if you have only 2 SATA connectors - couldn't you use MFSCOPY to backup your recordings to the windows drive, then (after connecting the new drive) restore to the new drive?
No, MFSCopy is supported Tivo drive to Tivo or bare drive only.
mazman
08-27-2007, 10:49 PM
No, MFSCopy is supported Tivo drive to Tivo or bare drive only.
Since I only have 2 SATA connectors, how could I do a Tivo drive to Tivo or bare drive copy?
Guy Kuo
08-27-2007, 10:54 PM
Get a USB to SATA adapter and connect the original drive to a USB2 port. I used a Vantech which cost about $30. Compared to the old days of Hinsdale instructions, winMFS is blood simple.
mazman
08-28-2007, 08:09 PM
Get a USB to SATA adapter and connect the original drive to a USB2 port. I used a Vantech which cost about $30. Compared to the old days of Hinsdale instructions, winMFS is blood simple.
Do you have the model # of the Vantech?
spike2k5
08-28-2007, 09:07 PM
I have the following model and works well upto 750GB. I have not tested it beyond that.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812186020
chrishicks
08-28-2007, 10:43 PM
I have the following model and works well upto 750GB. I have not tested it beyond that.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812186020
would this let me do the process posted above using a laptop(I have 3 of them)? I haven't owned a desktop in years.
bkdtv
08-28-2007, 10:56 PM
would this let me do the process posted above using a laptop(I have 3 of them)? I haven't owned a desktop in years.I don't see why not, so long as you have a laptop running Windows XP or Vista.
You should not connect your Tivo drive to any PC running Windows 9x / Me or Windows 2000 SP1.
chrishicks
08-28-2007, 11:00 PM
I don't see why not, so long as you have a laptop running Windows XP or Vista.
You should not connect your Tivo drive to any PC running Windows 9x / Me or Windows 2000 SP1.
cool. thanks for the reply.
all my laptops are newer. I run XP, XP Pro and Vista Ultimate.
mazman
08-29-2007, 12:32 AM
Is it possible to boot into Windows from a Bart PE disk and run winMFS from a floppy/thumb drive, etc?
would this let me do the process posted above using a laptop(I have 3 of them)? I haven't owned a desktop in years.
If you have two free USB 2.0 slots, you can even do an MFSCopy, and do a full copy of the drive.
USB-to-SATA Adapters: $25
750GB upgrade hard drive: $200
Your seeing where this is going: priceless.
;)
Bill
spike2k5
08-29-2007, 06:41 PM
Is it possible to boot into Windows from a Bart PE disk and run winMFS from a floppy/thumb drive, etc?
Never tried it on a slimmed down Windows so I'm not sure.
Give it a try and let us know.
Use Window XP sp2 or later OS.
dougdingle
08-29-2007, 09:09 PM
Is it possible to take the internal drive and the eSATA drive from an S3, and copy their contents (programs and all) to a single new drive which can then be installed internally?
I'm concerned with the many horror stories from people with eSATA drives losing all their programs, and would like to go to a large internal drive but preserve what I have recorded.
spike2k5
08-29-2007, 11:15 PM
Is it possible to take the internal drive and the eSATA drive from an S3, and copy their contents (programs and all) to a single new drive which can then be installed internally?
I'm concerned with the many horror stories from people with eSATA drives losing all their programs, and would like to go to a large internal drive but preserve what I have recorded.
Not yet but working on it.
dougdingle
08-30-2007, 02:24 AM
Not yet but working on it.
So I browsed around the MFSLive upgrade guide, page 3, and found this:
"Series 3:
Disk to Disk Copy
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Slow way but preserves recordings: (avg 2GB/min)
Option 3.20 To copy everything from original capacity (250GB) internal drive and eSATA drive to bigger single drive and expand capacity. If you get "Backup target not large enough" error, chances are you will need to use this command. This option works only if your internal drive is never been expanded with restore -x option.
This option is built into WinMFS so give it a try."
But at the top of the page, it says:
"Option 3.2 To copy from expanded dual drives to new single bigger drive:
This option if not supported yet."
So I'm confused.
If I don't have an expanded internal drive (just the original 250 gig it came with), and I have a 500 gig eSATA drive as well, can I use WinMFS to copy all the contents to a new 750 gig SATA drive and make that the only drive (internal)?
Or is this what you are working on?
Thanks (and for all your work on this so far as well).
Vespa
08-30-2007, 03:11 AM
Does anyone have a good list of HDD's that should be considered when upgrading your Tivo? Without starting a holy war...what is better for Tivo? Seagate ? WD?
richsadams
08-30-2007, 03:37 AM
Does anyone have a good list of HDD's that should be considered when upgrading your Tivo? Without starting a holy war...what is better for Tivo? Seagate ? WD?Seagate's DB35 7200.3 series (http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/consumer_electronics/db35_series/db35_series_7200.3/) (SATA 500GB ST3500830SCE and SATA 750GB ST3750840SCE) seems to be the drive of choice by the pros such as The TiVo Community Store and Weaknees. They are dedicated DVR drives with low db, temp and failure numbers plus a 5 year warranty. I’ve had excellent luck with every Seagate drive I’ve owned over the years. My two-cents. :)
Vespa
08-30-2007, 10:43 AM
Thanks....that is very helpful!
richsadams
08-30-2007, 11:20 AM
Thanks....that is very helpful!No problem...here to help! ;)
When looking for a HDD for TiVo a while back I noted this info on the Weaknees site (http://www.weaknees.com/seagate-db35-dvr-hard-drive.php):
Seagate DB35 drives have a few key differences from normal desktop drives that make them far superior to desktop drives for PVR usage:
Thermal Control: On board sensors monitor temperature and adjust characteristics as necessary to keep the temperature optimal.
Durability: These drives run at 7200 RPM - more than fast enough for every PVR (providing about three times the necessary peak throughput) but not fast enough to wear out sooner.
Acoustic Management: DVR-specific drives are specially tuned to run as quietly as possible.
A/V Streaming: DVR-specific drives have been optimized and tuned to provide consistent data to the PVR processor. Standard desktop drives can hang while retrying drive reads - DB35 drives know to move ahead and provide more data to keep video smooth.
Error Recovery: Desktop drives retry on errors to make sure that your Excel spreadsheet is exactly right - it's imperative. But when watching video, if one block of data is bad, you may not even notice a dark spot on one frame for 1/30th of a second. So these drives are tuned to move past errors faster, putting the stream of data as top priority. Where desktop drives often cause stutters, these drives run smooth. These are key qualities to look for in any brand I would think.
Careful what you read when someone is selling you something. :o
Acoustic Management The DB-35 is only of value for the TiVo for its pre-set “silentseek actuator profile”. This feature forces users to pay a premium for a silent seek when other manufacturers use industry standard methods to allow end-users to adjust noise level easily themselves.
Thermal Control This is nothing more than the standby and sleep modes that most drives now have. Not applicable to the TiVo S3/HD which never sleeps.
A/V Streaming related Error Recovery These features are part of a specialized command set and are also irrelevant to the TiVo which will make no use of those features. The TiVo is only looking for a regular SATA hard drive, and thankfully so, too. Otherwise we would be locked in to a specific vendors model for upgrading. The 10 simultaneous streams capability may eventually be of some value for the TiVo S5 or whatever. The current demands on the hard drive are so minimal that the vast majority of time the TiVo's hard drive is just waiting for something to do.
Durability The same as Seagate's other equivalent non-DVR drives. Nothing special here.
The DB-35 (and the CinemaStar and other new DVR drives) is intended as an OEM drive that a manufacturer would build a system around using it's custom command set or having Seagate configure the drive in the firmware especially for the manufacturer. Short of that it is just seen by the TiVo as a regular SATA hard drive.
The DB-35 is a great drive and the most appropriate of Seagate's offerings (because of its quietness) but the spew from Weakness is taking advantage of the warm fuzzy marketing syndrome we all fall victim to. If we think it is better we feel better about it. The DB-35 is no better than an equivalent quality regular SATA drive from another manufacturer that has been manually put into quiet seek mode.
For more info, go to the source:
Seagate Technology Paper (http://www.seagate.com/content/pdf/whitepaper/TP-545_DynaPlay.pdf)
DB35 Series 7200.3 Data Sheet (http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/datasheet/disc/ds_db35_7200_3.pdf)
Not yet but working on it.
WOW! :up: :up: :up:
thesilb
08-30-2007, 04:52 PM
I just bought a 750gb Seaate DB35 from Thenerds.net for $265 and successfully followed the above instructions and swapped out my own drive (and I am a novice at this stuff). Worked fine. Saved me $120 over weaknees' price.
Thanks everyone for the info! :up:
markw365
08-31-2007, 03:26 PM
I'm probably going to pick up a WD5000AAKS tonight since Fry's has them for $99. Then my only problem is I've been windows free since 97. Looks like a recompile of the mfstools again. :)
spike2k5
08-31-2007, 03:36 PM
I'm probably going to pick up a WD5000AAKS tonight since Fry's has them for $99. Then my only problem is I've been windows free since 97. Looks like a recompile of the mfstools again. :)
You don't need to compile mfstools.
There's a Linux boot cd that works with Tivo HD.
lickwid
08-31-2007, 03:52 PM
Does anyone have a good list of HDD's that should be considered when upgrading your Tivo? Without starting a holy war...what is better for Tivo? Seagate ? WD?
I can recommend the Hitachi 1TB Deskstar drive. I got in on the BB deal for the external drive, and just removed the drive from the enclosure. Ran WinMFS on it, adjusted the Acoustic Management to 128, and popped it back into the TivoHD with great success. It's as quiet as the original WD drive.
I'd also recommend to stay away from the standard Seagate 750GB desktop drive (Non-DB35). Since you have no way of adjusting the acoustic levels, this drive runs super loud and super hot.
But the Seagate DB35 drive seems also highly recommended since it's pre-set to work in DVR's.
markw365
08-31-2007, 03:56 PM
You don't need to compile mfstools.
There's a Linux boot cd that works with Tivo HD.
That requires killing uptime though. :)
spike2k5
08-31-2007, 04:31 PM
That requires killing uptime though. :)
Sure beat's having to compile stuff on your own but yes you will have to start fresh on your uptime count. You can alway fake the uptime.
rainwater
08-31-2007, 04:32 PM
That requires killing uptime though. :)
AFAIK, the standard mfstools will not work with a TiVo HD unless someone has updated them lately.
markw365
09-02-2007, 02:16 AM
You've been sleeping. :) 1.3a works fine. Just threw a WD5000AAKS in the TivoHD, so now I have 64HD hours and 607SD. :) Works like a charm. Broke down and rebooted as I realized my only two sata power connectors were connected to the system's raid. Took about 1.5 hours to do it as I backed up all the recorded stuff. Otherwise we'd be talking 15 minute operation. FWIW, the mfstools from the .iso image will run under Ubuntu.
Mark
rcamille
09-02-2007, 04:58 PM
Please excuse my ignorance, but I just downloaded winmfs beta 5, unzipped it and ran the program. I don't see a pulldown menu for mfscopy. The only pulldowns are File and Help. I have not yet connected my TiVo Drive or the drive I am upgrading too. Please advise. Thanks for your help
bkdtv
09-02-2007, 05:11 PM
Please excuse my ignorance, but I just downloaded winmfs beta 5, unzipped it and ran the program. I don't see a pulldown menu for mfscopy. The only pulldowns are File and Help. I have not yet connected my TiVo Drive or the drive I am upgrading too. Please advise. Thanks for your helpYou've got to select the drive under File -> Select Drive before you get those extra options.
Please excuse my ignorance, but I just downloaded winmfs beta 5, unzipped it and ran the program. I don't see a pulldown menu for mfscopy. The only pulldowns are File and Help. I have not yet connected my TiVo Drive or the drive I am upgrading too. Please advise. Thanks for your help
You have to select the drive before you will see the options.
You can't select the drive if you don't have it connected ... :)
rcamille
09-02-2007, 08:03 PM
Thanks for your help. I am running Windows XP w/SP2. Is there any concern that the old or new drive will mount under windows? What is the risk of damaging the existing TiVo drive? Thanks - I am about to take the leap, but am a bit anxious.
bkdtv
09-02-2007, 08:25 PM
Thanks for your help. I am running Windows XP w/SP2. Is there any concern that the old or new drive will mount under windows? What is the risk of damaging the existing TiVo drive? Thanks - I am about to take the leap, but am a bit anxious.No risk with Windows XP SP2 or Windows Vista.
rcamille
09-03-2007, 09:17 AM
If i use a non Seagate DB35 drive, when do i run the acoustic management software? I was looking at the WD 500gb hd. Isn't the factory TiVo HD drive a WD? Does anyone have a specific model number WD drive that they like? (or any other brand??)
Thanks for your help
If i use a non Seagate DB35 drive, when do i run the acoustic management software?
Before you put the drive in the Tivo :)
You can run it before or after you expand the drive.
And it's not just a non-Seagate DB35 drive, it's a non-Seagate drive (e.g. WD, Hitachi). If you want AM on a Seagate, you have to buy a DB35 drive.
rcamille
09-03-2007, 03:23 PM
Any thoughts on the Samsung Spinpoint drives? Has anyone used it??
SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Newegg has the 500gb Samsung spinpoint for around $119; that is a lot cheaper than the Seagate. Also, where do I get the acoustic management software and do I need to run it on the samsung drive? What level do I set it at?
Do you need to run acoustic management on all HDD, just not the Seagate DB35??Sorry for the newbie questions.
Thanks for the information!!!!
markw365
09-03-2007, 08:23 PM
If i use a non Seagate DB35 drive, when do i run the acoustic management software? I was looking at the WD 500gb hd. Isn't the factory TiVo HD drive a WD? Does anyone have a specific model number WD drive that they like? (or any other brand??)
Thanks for your help
I was going to use the WD5000YS raid drive which is around $120 locally, however Fry's threw the WD5000AAKS drive on sale so I went with that one. Being a Linux guy and never turning a PC off, I've run the WD KS and YS series drives forever. I also threw a WD 120GB in my Direct Tivo (series 2 SD) 3 years ago and have never had an issue with them. You'll pay a premium for the DB35's, they may be a bit quieter, and they may last longer, however like someone else voiced. At $99 I'll just swap in a new one. I've still got my 40GB SD tivo drive sitting in the drawer, and it just got joined by the 160GB drive from my Tivo HD. YMMV, but the WD5000AAKS is quiet and it works, no opinion on the lifespan of it, but I'll bet it's still running 3 years from now, based on experience with other drives. The only brand I've seen fail consistently, and this is from working as a sysadmin at a site with 5000 clients would be Maxtors. You won't find them in my home equipment, but you do find them spec'd for off the shelf Dell Optiplexes. :)
Mark
markw365
09-03-2007, 08:24 PM
Any thoughts on the Samsung Spinpoint drives? Has anyone used it??
SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Newegg has the 500gb Samsung spinpoint for around $119; that is a lot cheaper than the Seagate. Also, where do I get the acoustic management software and do I need to run it on the samsung drive? What level do I set it at?
Do you need to run acoustic management on all HDD, just not the Seagate DB35??Sorry for the newbie questions.
Thanks for the information!!!!
Not sure what the windows mfs stuff uses, but hdparm can manage that. Use the Linux iso.
Mark
vBulletin® v3.6.8, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.