The Closer 7/9/07 (S03E04) Ruby

[Rugged]

I really think this is one of the best shows on TV. I have faithfully watched every episode since season 1--something I can't say for many shows.

Can someone fill me in on the last 10 seconds--I didn't have my show padded. I can only presume what happened. If I knew how to use spoilers I would write what I saw.

[dswallow]

Any discussion about what went on in this episode does not require the use of spoilers because this episode is identified in the thread title, which implicitly means it can contain spoilers for this and any earlier episode.

I found this to be a very annoying episode. Well done, but annoying, which I suppose is what they were going for. It was very disappointing seeing so many characters I heretofore respected go to the dark side and become just as bad as any criminal they're pursuing. Even Brenda sank a bit by participating in the cover up as long as she got what she wanted, then in some ways went one worse than everyone else by punishing David as she did, yet she materially participated in the entire thing just as much as anyone else did.

The only clean officers left are those who weren't involved at all.

It'll be interesting if they go somewhere further with this storyline in future episodes rather than just let it end with David wearing a mad face and accepting a 10-day suspension.

[Rob Helmerichs]

I liked everything about it that Doug didn't like--up until the end, when they copped out by having the guy kill himself. One thing I LOVED about this show in the beginning was that people's actions had consequences, and it looked for a while in this episode that they were taking that notion to the next level. But they effect was that they walked up to the precipice, jumped off--and then floated back safely to the edge.

[Rugged]

It'll be interesting if they go somewhere further with this storyline in future episodes rather than just let it end with David wearing a mad face and accepting a 10-day suspension.

So was that how it ended...I saw how David signed the paper and stood up but that was it. Was anything more said?

[allan]

So was that how it ended...I saw how David signed the paper and stood up but that was it. Was anything more said?

The recording cut off slightly early. :( But I happened to be watching near-Live. After David signed the paper, Brenda asked if he'd do the same thing if he was put in a room with another (I forget the name of the bad guy). He said he didn't know, and she told him not to come back until he did.

[Joeg180]

Another great episode!

[TIVO_GUY_HERE]

Anyone else think he didn't commit suicide?

[Rugged]

Anyone else think he didn't commit suicide?

I was a little skeptical of that too...does anyone know what was written on his hand. If it really was a note to his mom than I am sure he did it.

[TIVO_GUY_HERE]

He signed the confession with his right hand, and the suicide note is written on his right hand. Even Brenda gave a little look

[Rugged]

He signed the confession with his right hand, and the suicide note is written on his right hand. Even Brenda gave a little look


Well I sure missed that...Conspiracy confirmed. Those darn cops will do anything...not that there's anything wrong with that....just kidding.

[allan]

He signed the confession with his right hand, and the suicide note is written on his right hand. Even Brenda gave a little look

I missed that, but I did think how convienient the "suicide" was.

[stantonl]

I wonder if this will be the last we see of david or will that just let this go.

[Idearat]

Until last night, I don't remember hearing Sgt. Gabriel's first name. I had to think every time they called him "David".

I enjoyed the episode, as always, but I also didn't like the idea of the police basically becoming animals like the one that was arrested. My feeling is that if you're so sure the "bad" thing you're doing is really the right thing then you should stand up and face the consequences. While he would have faced departmental censure, I'm pretty sure that had the video been played he'd have got off lightly on any criminal or civil problems that were to come up.

[DeDondeEs]

Being on the West Coast we recorded the one at 6:00 PST on TNTHD and watched it later. After it cut off I realized it was running again at 9PST and we flipped over to watch the end. One interesting thing I noticed was that in the 9PM West Coast feed they didn't show the prisoner hung in his cell. Instead they went from "the Better news is no trial" to where Brenda and David were discussing his punishment and she mentioned that there was not trial because the guy killed himself. That allowed the show to end in the alloted 1:10.

[Idearat]

I'm on the west coast, recorded the 6PM showing, but didn't miss anything. Luckily I have soft padding enabled on my DirecTiVo, adding 1 min at the beginning, 5 at the end, so it looks like it was just enough to catch it all.

It did seem like there was more of the previous episode at the beginning than usual. Perhaps everything was running late?

[super dave]

I was a little skeptical of that too...does anyone know what was written on his hand. If it really was a note to his mom than I am sure he did it.
"Mom don't hate me."

[Amnesia]

What I didn't like is that this is only the second time we've seen Gabriel act against Brenda and they were both (arguably) race-related. (The first one was a few weeks ago with the ex-gang member turned politician.)

Just because the guy's black doesn't mean that the character can only get worked up by racial issues. I'd have happier if the little girl was white and he acted the same way...or if the politician he wanted to protect was white...

[TAsunder]

I missed the scene with the note on his hand apparently. My tivo recorded the 11pm showing, maybe that's why.

I thought this episode was really awful. Every cop cliche possible was thrown in. When did cops and the fbi both start looking for kids missing for an hour or so? Also, do they think we've never seen a police show where someone beats a suspect? I can only assume they do think that because otherwise this show's plot had little substance.

This show should stick to columbo style interrogations as the focus and not cop cliches. Probably asking too much.

[Sadara]

I loved this episode!! I liked how the other chief was helping her out, being the bad cop for her to save her pride...... or dignity or whatever. Good episode!!

[DeDondeEs]

I missed the scene with the note on his hand apparently. My tivo recorded the 11pm showing, maybe that's why.


Ok so it wasn't just me. They didn't include that scene in the later showing, as I said previously.

[TIVO_GUY_HERE]

I noticed on my cable guide, the 2nd showing ( or maybe the 3rd it was like 1 am) was only listed as 1 hour, not 70 minutes like the 1st airing.

[TAsunder]

I noticed on my cable guide, the 2nd showing ( or maybe the 3rd it was like 1 am) was only listed as 1 hour, not 70 minutes like the 1st airing.

However, before it began it still said that an "extended" closer was about to start. :mad:

[cheesesteak]

I expect one officer turning of the video recording so that another officer can beat a confession out of a child molester from The Shield, not The Closer. Seemed out of character for both Provenza and Gabriel. Also, Gabriel should know how to tune somebody up without leaving so much visible damage.

[Rob Helmerichs]

I expect one officer turning of the video recording so that another officer can beat a confession out of a child molester from The Shield, not The Closer. Seemed out of character for both Provenza and Gabriel. Also, Gabriel should know how to tune somebody up without leaving so much visible damage.
Well, I'll disagree with you on both counts there. I don't think Gabriel would know the first thing about tuning up a suspect, and I think the only reason Provenza behaves as much as he does is out of a mixture of respect and fear for Brenda.

I think the MOST out of character thing was the tech turning off the camera, but Provenza pretty much bullied him into it.

[TAsunder]

The most out of character was her entire team as well as an FBI detachment being assigned to look for a girl only an hour after she "disappeared".

[newsposter]

I'm glad she took that advice and toned down the icky lipstick.

I wonder if the video guy also got in trouble for listening to the order to turn it off which was an obvious no no. Or does following orders get you out of trouble?