Soprano's Finale - What happened? (SPOILERS)

[bdlucas]

What's your favorite theory?

[jones07]

I'll wait for the DVD in 2008, watch the multiple endings and tell you what I like best :cool:

[markp99]

I choose Option "F": I just don't care anymore.

[markymark_ctown]

mushroom rings?

[snowjay]

Tony's not dead.

We, the viewers, never saw the end coming.

[rkester]

There was not an option for "It sucked"?

[Bulldog7]

I choose Option "F": I just don't care anymore.

will you go see the inevitable movie??? It was so open ended, it could continue
as a movie. Or not. Just eat your onion rings and shut the %$#^ up, AJ!!! :p

[Bob_Newhart]

I believe when the movie is released in the Summer of '09, all will be revealed.

[flyers088]

I choose Option "F": I just don't care anymore.

+1. Worst ending ever!!!! :down: :down:

[rkester]

The official thread for the show here is mostly a whole lot of "WTF!?" and I agree.

Truthfully, I think Tony and his family got whacked or approached for immediate leave to protection/witness land. I don't think they just sat there eating their dinner.

[Bob_Newhart]

I think the owner of the diner came over to their table to tell them to turn off that God awful Journey song.

[marksman]

The story is over.

Essentially frozen in time at the moment it ended for all eternity.

[unixadm]

I chose "other"

As I posted in the official episode thread:

We don't know what happens to Tony....because we're dead

We never saw it coming.....we were expecting one guy to get whacked, and instead, BLAM.....we are dead. We never saw it coming (as Tony had said before)

We can't see Tony, Carm, AJ or Meadow anymore....because we are lying on the floor dead.

I really think this was the end that Chase was trying to portray...we were watching on the sidelines of this crime family, became evolved emotionally with them. We have taken some pleasure in seeing some of the violence and the hits of some of the past characters....we are now are part of the carnage that came from the life of crime we have become a part of.

Chase has killed us as the audience...thus ending any more interaction with Tony, and thus ending any more knowledge of his future.

We really don't know WHAT Chase's intention was....and therein lies the problem. If we don't understand what the ending represents, then he did a poor job of conveying his ideas, thoughts, and intentions.

I think that Chase is really pulling a fast one on the audience......sort of like "Gotcha!!!, Ha, Ha, Ha"

Here is a quote from an article:


Everyone remembers that famous episode where the Russian escapes in the woods only never to be heard from again ("The Pine Barrens"). Recently the actor who plays Paulie Walnuts revealed that a script contained a scene in which the Russian reappeared this year. "But when we went to shoot it, they took it out. I think David didn't like it. He wanted the audience just to suffer," the thesp said.


http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/thats-what-we-were-waiting-for-angry-fans-crash-hbo-website/

Very interesting that the actor who plays Paulie Walnuts claims that Chase just wants to make the audience suffer......he wants us to be pissed off and definitely did that to a lot of the audience.

[rkester]

Interesting take on it unixadm.

[mrmike]

Of course. It's Tony in the trunk.

[coolpenguin]

I think the owner of the diner came over to their table to tell them to turn off that God awful Journey song.

awww Journey is a total guilty pleasure of mine :p

Tony was whacked as Meadow walked in the door. The possible movie(s) show family life after Tony. JMO, only saw maybe three episodes of the show ever.

[cheesesteak]

They sat there, stuffing their faces the same way they've ended previous seasons.

The whole diner thing was weird. A diner is one of the last places I'd expect a Soprano family dinner.

[jlb]

I heard on the radio this morning that as the end credits roll, there is a listing for one of the "mysterious men" in the bar as a relative of Leotardo. The theory went on that the perfect revenge in the mafia world is to kill someone in front of their family. So, we then hav the excrutiating wait for Meadow to park the car, as if there is the wait for the whole family to arrive. Then, the theory continues, that we switch perspectives from seeing Tony to seeing things from Tony's eyes......then...blank....which could be the moment Meadow arrives in and then Tony is killed.

If this is what Chase intended, it works for me. But we'll never know what he intended.....

[madscientist]

If you read the episode thread you'll find this whole idea of the "mysterious man" being a relative of Phil debunked. In fact, the guy is not even an actor: they saw a picture of him pouring a beer or something and he just had the Italian look they were going for, so they hired him for the day.

Maybe the guy's real name just happens to be "Leotardo" or something, hence the confusion. I didn't watch the credits myself.

[Sparty99]

I chose "other"

As I posted in the official episode thread:

We don't know what happens to Tony....because we're dead

We never saw it coming.....we were expecting one guy to get whacked, and instead, BLAM.....we are dead. We never saw it coming (as Tony had said before)

We can't see Tony, Carm, AJ or Meadow anymore....because we are lying on the floor dead.

I really think this was the end that Chase was trying to portray...we were watching on the sidelines of this crime family, became evolved emotionally with them. We have taken some pleasure in seeing some of the violence and the hits of some of the past characters....we are now are part of the carnage that came from the life of crime we have become a part of.

Chase has killed us as the audience...thus ending any more interaction with Tony, and thus ending any more knowledge of his future.

We really don't know WHAT Chase's intention was....and therein lies the problem. If we don't understand what the ending represents, then he did a poor job of conveying his ideas, thoughts, and intentions.

I think that Chase is really pulling a fast one on the audience......sort of like "Gotcha!!!, Ha, Ha, Ha"

Here is a quote from an article:



http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/thats-what-we-were-waiting-for-angry-fans-crash-hbo-website/

Very interesting that the actor who plays Paulie Walnuts claims that Chase just wants to make the audience suffer......he wants us to be pissed off and definitely did that to a lot of the audience.
The idea that Chase killed the audience is the best explanation I've heard yet. Actually, it's the only remotely satisfying outcome I can think of. That's the outcome I'm living with because every other suggestion sucks.

Here's my problem. David Chase has ruined the legacy of one of the finest shows in the history of television. Sure, the Sopranos was a fine show with some brilliant episodes, but the first thing people are going to think of now is, "Wow, what a sh*tty ending." Such a shame.

[WhiskeyTango]

Not sure if this was posted in one of the other Sopranos threads or not...



Chase said he would leave it to fans to interpret the show’s last scene for themselves.

“I have no interest in explaining, defending, reinterpreting, or adding to what is there,” said Chase

“People get the impression that you’re trying to (mess) with them, and it’s not true. You’re trying to entertain them,” he said. “Anybody who wants to watch it, it’s all there.”



Well if it's all there, then he sucks at his job because no one knows/understands what he was trying to convey in that final scene. You can speculate all you want about it whether that was the moment Tony was killed or that is the spot where he chose to end our view into Tony's life or whatever you believe but nobody really knows. Why does Chase have to be such a jerk? Why can't he just say what he intended the ending to mean? It would take all of, what, 15 seconds? What a pompous ass.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19187052/

[snowjay]

I heard on the radio this morning that as the end credits roll, there is a listing for one of the "mysterious men" in the bar as a relative of Leotardo. The theory went on that the perfect revenge in the mafia world is to kill someone in front of their family. So, we then hav the excrutiating wait for Meadow to park the car, as if there is the wait for the whole family to arrive. Then, the theory continues, that we switch perspectives from seeing Tony to seeing things from Tony's eyes......then...blank....which could be the moment Meadow arrives in and then Tony is killed.

If this is what Chase intended, it works for me. But we'll never know what he intended.....


But the last thing we see is not from Tony's eyes.

Meadow opens the door, the bell rings, we see a quick shot of Tony at the table and then the screen goes black.

[Werd2406]

David Chase is just an *******. Who cares anymore. I do think a Sopranos movie will be coming though just because of the uproar and David Chase's ego doesnt want to be remembered as that "Stupid mother f*cker who ruined the f*cking Sopranos"

:)