Record Any Movie Or Show To Disc!!

[AFP1]

Over the time I have been involved here, there have been many Debates whether or not you can duplicate any Movie or Show, without being routed through any Computer or DSL etc. **It's Very Simple!
If you own a Burner Unit, (I have a Humax Burner Tivo and a S2DT Tivo) you can hook ANY type of Unit to the Front or Back of the Machine, (On a Humax) S-Video or Composite, and easilly follow the directions to "Record from Camera or VCR." To try it, I hooked up a cheap $30 DVD Player to the Humax, and everything I tried was duplicated perfectly! (My DVD Recordings, ANY Movies, Shows etc.
Plus, Even when Burned to Disc, there is no loss of quality!!
[B]So to All who told me it cannot be done, **I HAVE DONE IT!!! **AND IT WORKS!!
You can also use your 2nd Tivo Unit to Pump In if you have one! :up:

[JimSpence]

Okay!

[GoHokies!]

Yep, there's a bunch of us that have been doing it for a while...

Especially nice for saving all those widescreen movies to disc off of the S3.

[ZeoTiVo]

Plus the DVD burner TiVo does not have to be subscribed to do this trick.

[rainwater]

Who said it can't be done? Lots of people use the save to vcr function to record on DVD burners. This is nothing new.

[Stanley Rohner]

Who said it can't be done? Lots of people use the save to vcr function to record on DVD burners. This is nothing new.

That's what I was thinking. The OP is acting like he discovered something brand new way to do it and it's actually a pretty common thing to do.

Maybe someone told the OP you can't do a direct digital-to-digital copy of a program from a TiVo to a DVD. Which you can't.

[mick66]

Who said it can't be done? Lots of people use the save to vcr function to record on DVD burners. This is nothing new.

and lot's of people do it w/o bothering with the 'save to vcr' option by simply using 'play'

[mattack]

and lot's of people do it w/o bothering with the 'save to vcr' option by simply using 'play'

Though save to 'VCR' is useful (IMHO) because it puts the info page at the beginning.
It's good that on the S3 I can still use the skip to tick functionality in FF even in save to VCR mode (to get to nearly the end of a show where the musical guest that I'm dubbing off is -- but I want the info page). I have to hit cancel to get rid of the "hey bozo, you're doing save to VCR" icon, but that's better than not allowing it.

So I do both "just hit play", and "save to VCR".

[mattack]

Over the time I have been involved here, there have been many Debates whether or not you can duplicate any Movie or Show, without being routed through any Computer or DSL etc.

As well as what everyone else has said, it does NOT work on all shows, at least not on all recorders. I was unable to record the Sopranos (to my XS32) when I had digital cable a year or so ago on a short term deal (actually, my house now has digital cable but I haven't bothered to get cablecards yet)..

the copy protection kicked in. On avsforum, people say this happens with various brands of recorders.

[juanian]

I agree - if the recorder is "modern" enough to comply with the newer copy-prevention codes, then a DVD recorder will not record a show that sends out the "don't copy me" signal.

And getting slightly off-topic (but still related to "Save to VCR" :D ), nobody is talking anymore about that red screen that now appears for about a second between the black info screen and the recorded program. This first showed up around 7.1 (or was it 7.3.1), and has been annoying me ever since. Anybody else care about it?

[GoHokies!]

Anybody else care about it?Nope, because I never see it.

[captain_video]

Plus, Even when Burned to Disc, there is no loss of quality!!
Absolutely incorrect. The only way to preserve the quality of the original recording would be a direct digital transfer. Anytime you take a digital source and convert it to analog and then convert it back to digital, etc., there will always be some loss in picture quality. You may not be able to see it if you have a small screen TV but it can definitely be discernible on a large screen HDTV. That's exactly why I don't ever dub video via analog connections. Just because it can be done the way the OP suggests doesn't mean it's the best way to do it. There are far better ways to make backups of DVDs or other video sources with zero loss of picture quality. The OP's method is strictly Amateur Hour when it comes to copying video sources.

[JimSpence]

I have DirecTV TiVos so the loss of video quality isn't too bad. No extra conversion required since the video stream is recorded from dish to disk. The biggest problem is the compression that DirecTV has added to their channels. :(

I like to use the Press play version for recording to get past the commercials at the beginning (yes you can play to that point and the use the Save To VCR from the resume point). I pause at a blank screen just before I want to record and then bring up the show description, record that screen for 5-10 seconds and then release pause. I have the short display of status bar enabled so it just flashes for a split second.

I haven't done a lot of archiving to DVD lately, however.

[classicsat]

Plus the DVD burner TiVo does not have to be subscribed to do this trick.
For Toshiba and Pioneer. I believe the Humax needs subbed to do even that.

[TiVo Troll]

Absolutely incorrect. The only way to preserve the quality of the original recording would be a direct digital transfer. Anytime you take a digital source and convert it to analog and then convert it back to digital, etc., there will always be some loss in picture quality. You may not be able to see it if you have a small screen TV but it can definitely be discernible on a large screen HDTV. That's exactly why I don't ever dub video via analog connections. Just because it can be done the way the OP suggests doesn't mean it's the best way to do it. There are far better ways to make backups of DVDs or other video sources with zero loss of picture quality. The OP's method is strictly Amateur Hour when it comes to copying video sources.

Some of us are indeed amateurs! While dubbing through an analog connection unmistakably causes a loss of quality, when DVD's are recorded at the 2nd highest (2 hour) quality level from a source of at least that quality the results look pretty good indeed, far better than an SP VHS recording.

A question: Since DVD's are recorded at 480i, how does upscaling to 480p through an analog output or 1080i through HDMI improve the picture beyond what is there in the first place? 480i can look quite good on up to a medium sized hi-def monitor.

[ZeoTiVo]

For Toshiba and Pioneer. I believe the Humax needs subbed to do even that.
Oh right, no TiVo basic on the HUMAX. I do not nhave a humax myself. Thanks for clarifying that :up:

[magnus]

Ditto that. :D

Okay!

[juanian]

Nope, because I never see it.OK, maybe it is a green screen for you :rolleyes: .

Anyway, the "Pending restart" showing on my last 8.1 TiVo tells me that 8.3 has been loaded and is ready to go (sigh). I'm going to test and see if a TiVo will still reboot itself during a "Save to VCR" action. (Twice in the past I was transferring to a video tape using "Save to VCR", and the TiVo rebooted and installed a new operating system; easily recoverable with a video tape, but this certainly would be a problem if the show being recorded onto a DVD was like the fourth one going onto the disk (and if the previous three shows had already been deleted).)

[GoHokies!]

OK, maybe it is a green screen for you :rolleyes: .
The green screen is a whole other issue - if you're seeing that you have a lot larger issues...

[mattack]

The green screen is a whole other issue - if you're seeing that you have a lot larger issues...

No, he's referring to the green screen that appears when you do a save to VCR.
I see it too, and have mentioned it in other threads. It only happens on my S3, it has never happened on my S1s. It's only slightly a pain, since essentially always when I save to VCR, I edit out all but around 1 second of the info screen anyway.

[juanian]

The green background screen (or red background screen, for older model 140 and 240 TiVos) started appearing with one of the 7.x updates. (Since Series 1 TiVos don't get updates anymore, they didn't get the problem .) And, the countdown that you get when you continue a 'Save to VCR' now leaves a number on the screen instead of going to black before the program starts.

(And yes, a forced reboot to load a software update does still interrupt a 'Save to VCR' action.)

[GoHokies!]

No, he's referring to the green screen that appears when you do a save to VCR.
I see it too, and have mentioned it in other threads. It only happens on my S3, it has never happened on my S1s. It's only slightly a pain, since essentially always when I save to VCR, I edit out all but around 1 second of the info screen anyway.Check. Thought that he was talking about the GSOD.
Again, I haven't seen any strange colored screens at the beginning of "Save to VCR", so I wouldn't know. Which is why I said that it doesn't bother me.

[juanian]

Check. Thought that he was talking about the GSOD.
Again, I haven't seen any strange colored screens at the beginning of "Save to VCR", so I wouldn't know. Which is why I said that it doesn't bother me.Out of curiosity, what software version are you running, and what is the model number of your TiVo (last three digits of your Software Version number)? (I'm guessing you are running something earlier than 7.3, because I think the 'bug' first appeared with the massive software change of 7.3.1 (which spawned quite a number of bugs, most (but not all of which) have been fixed.)

[GoHokies!]

S3 running 8.1/8.3. Must be a S2 bug, I used TTG and a computer to burn DVD's off of those boxes.

[juanian]

S3 running 8.1/8.3. Must be a S2 bug, I used TTG and a computer to burn DVD's off of those boxes.But I thought I saw:No, he's referring to the green screen that appears when you do a save to VCR.
I see it too, and have mentioned it in other threads. It only happens on my S3, it has never happened on my S1s. It's only slightly a pain, since essentially always when I save to VCR, I edit out all but around 1 second of the info screen anyway.
Anyway, it certainly appears on S2s. (I probably won't have an S3 since I will be going to D* soon (solely to be able to get NFL Sunday Ticket).)

[GoHokies!]

Guess I'm just lucky then. Hasn't been a problem here.