Transfer between boxes.

[rdrrepair]

I've looked but can't seem to find this question with a definitive answer.

The Wife and TiVo will be going away for 2 months this summer. She will also be taking the 2 kids with her. Yes, in that order. :o

Can MRV be made to work over the internet?

I have looked into the "Slingbox" but the wife and kids wouldn't watch a TV show thru the computer or phone.

I would rather have a product that could do the MRV and save it to the HD for playback later, just like TiVo does now. It would need to be painless, No reformatting or making a DVD for playback etc...

We have Broadband and my speeds for the home location are...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/101800071.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

And the speeds for the vacation spot are...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/107171877.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Thanks in advance.

[jgaermom]

I don't think you can do mrv over the internet but if you have a laptop with svideo out you can hook it up to the tv and watch through slingbox that way.

[rdrrepair]

... if you have a laptop with svideo out you can hook it up to the tv and watch through slingbox that way.2 solutions to that answer...

1) I would have to upgrade wife v1.0 with girlfriend v.08 - wife 1.0 would then turn into something other then a tech challenged person. I think I'll keep wife v1.0 :o

2) It would be faster to wait for the kids to get older, then to teach her to do that :D

[ah30k]

I don't understand why the internet wouldn't work as long as you have your routers set up to route the TiVo messaging to the proper devices.

The problem in most homes is that inbound TCP/IP sessions are blocked by home routers. All internet browsing sessions are actually outbound initiated even though the bulk of the data is inbound.

If you set you your home routers to route inbound TiVo services to the actual TiVo IP address (or if you don’t know the exact services, route all inbound sessions to the TiVo) I don’t understand why it would not work. Routes can usually be set in the configuration pages of your router. It might also help to lock down your IP assignments to the TiVos so that they are not changing on you each time they reboot.

[ZeoTiVo]

both TiVos need to be on the same IP subnet and the discovery process they use to find each other is not routeable.

you would have to setup a VPN between the two sites which is just not feasible.
Plus your upload speeds are low (which is typical) and would make MRV extremely slow and subject to timeouts.

Your wife would not be happy with any copy over the internet solution it seems to me.


something you can try for free - though it still involves laptop is ORB.
I use it to stream shows to my smartphone or my Nintendo Wii.
best of all ORB is free so no investing in something that will not be used.

what it has going for you I think, is that it is strictlt browser based and you can set it up before hand to show her errrI mean the kids how to click through to a show and watch it. The quality is not the best but the shows can be watched via any browser. If you can hook a laptop up to the TV then it is probably simple enough to be of use.

[ah30k]

Don't use ORB 2.0 as they have not ported the TiVo plug ins over to 2.0 yet.

The older ORB 1.x worked well. for laptop use.

Not sure it passes the WAF though.

[ZeoTiVo]

Don't use ORB 2.0 as they have not ported the TiVo plug ins over to 2.0 yet.

The older ORB 1.x worked well. for laptop use.

Not sure it passes the WAF though.

Hmm - did not read about TiVo plug ins.

What I do is use ORB 2 and TiVo desktop Plus with the ability to convert automatically to another format. I use MPEG-4 and then have set ORB on that PC to look in the dir where the converted shows go. With auto transfers from my various TiVos everything is automatic.


as for WAF - yes , there is still the hurdle of using the PC but at least it is just opening a web browser and clicking on things to select what to play. I think this is as easy as it gets over the internet and does not need any special router reworking either.

[ah30k]

http://www.orb.com/en/orb_releases_dvr_everywhere_trade_for_users_of_tivo_copy_dvr s

As Orb moves more towards 2.0 it looks like this TiVo 1.x plug-in is harder to find. When I last used it, it was great.

[rdrrepair]

Plus your upload speeds are low (which is typical) and would make MRV extremely slow and subject to timeouts.What minimum upload speeds do you think would be acceptable? I could also do more on this end to increase speeds if that was the sole limiting factor.

[ZeoTiVo]

What minimum upload speeds do you think would be acceptable? I could also do more on this end to increase speeds if that was the sole limiting factor.
well think of average show size and whetehr you need better than real time transfer. I guess 1 meg or more of speed would work alright with the expectation you would transfer shows a good bit before watching them

but the VPN is really the issue. The TiVo DVRs need to see each other on the same LAN. The discovery part where the TiVo DVRs do a handshake and then you see the TiVo listed in the now playing section is not routeable. Meaning that you can not have it hit the router at your house and expect it to be sent to the other router at the vacation spot. I am not read up on setting up such a VPN that would make both routers appear to be on the same network and thus have the discovery pings travel hem but I know it is a PITA