View Full Version : Amazing Race: All-Stars 04-22-07 *spoilers*
terpfan1980
04-22-2007, 08:55 PM
whoa. Last non-elim. Things are gonna be tight from here out.
Neenahboy
04-22-2007, 08:57 PM
Was anyone else hoping Charla would get swept off the building when she was walking around it? :D
Horrible decisions by Danny and Oswald all around in this leg. I can't believe they stuck with the same IDIOT of a cab driver for virtually the entire leg.
Also, why they decided to take the detour that involves walking in a strange city in the heavy rain and wind is beyond me. In situations like that, you ALWAYS take the detour that involves the more stationary tasks.
zordude
04-22-2007, 09:10 PM
I am disappointed in the double non-elim. It totally takes the bite out of the first one. I realize that the people that were "marked for elimination" didn't know they were safe, but I still think it's a poor decision.
I bet the producers were really hoping that the beauty queens decide to do the "ride the pole" task.
Charla standing on that table the whole time while they were trying to PREPARE FOOD was nasty.
Z
DLL66
04-22-2007, 10:02 PM
Go Beauty Queen!!
cheerdude
04-22-2007, 10:41 PM
Happy about the non-elim since O&D are still in it.
They had to do the Yield for the $... at least, it did seem like the only way at that time.
However, I noticed that the BQs did not describe what happened accurately to E&D. They said that the $ was for "Yielding anyone but them". Umm... Nope... it was a specific yield to E&D.
My guess taking the Dragon vs. the noddles was because the noodles seemed to be the "Needle in a Haystack" type of task.
I hope that whoever said bad things about Charla and Mirna took them back. They showed lots of character this week.
Even though I don't think they're going to win, they did good so far, showing that you don't have to be perfect to succeed. :up:
I hope that whoever said bad things about Charla and Mirna took them back. They showed lots of character this week.
Yeah, bad character.
I have lots more bad things to say about Mirna in particular, but I just don't even feel like it right now.
bigpuma
04-23-2007, 12:46 AM
I hope that whoever said bad things about Charla and Mirna took them back. They showed lots of character this week.
What are you talking about, Mirna was a total bitch to Charla during the noodle detour.
JETarpon
04-23-2007, 01:11 AM
O&D shouldn't feel guilty about yielding E&D. What they should feel guilty about is blackmailing the beauty queens, which is really what they did.
DevdogAZ
04-23-2007, 01:16 AM
I hope that whoever said bad things about Charla and Mirna took them back. They showed lots of character this week.
You're kidding, right? :confused: :rolleyes:
I hate Mirna more after this episode than ever before. I was really hoping to seem them come in last and be eliminated. I really wish that bus would have stopped honking and simply run that mini-car over so that Mirna would have been stranded in the city with a ruined car.
Considering that Cha Cha Cha would have been eliminated, I guess I'm OK with this being a non-elim, but it sure seemed like a cop-out to have two non-elims back to back.
The basejumping roadblock looked like a ton of fun.
As for the Detour, if it hadn't been raining, I would have chosen the Dragon one. From the description, it seemed easier, since all they had to do was walk 3/4 of a mile and deliver something, as opposed to finding a location and completing a task when they arrived. I guess we'll never know if Dragon would actually have been a faster challenge because O&D were too stubborn to stop and ask directions before setting out and walking aimlessly.
scottykempf
04-23-2007, 01:20 AM
"Bounce, Bounce, Bounce." LOL
Yeah, Mirna was being nice to Charla this episode. "Charla, why did you tell me to cut the noodles so thick? Half an inch is too thick!!! WHY WHY DID YOU TELL ME TO DO THAT IT WAS OBVIOUSLY WRONG AND I WAS RIGHT."
DevdogAZ
04-23-2007, 01:26 AM
"Bounce, Bounce, Bounce." LOL
Yeah, Mirna was being nice to Charla this episode. "Charla, why did you tell me to cut the noodles so thick? Half an inch is too thick!!! WHY WHY DID YOU TELL ME TO DO THAT IT WAS OBVIOUSLY WRONG AND I WAS RIGHT."
What I couldn't believe was in the interview they were showing, Mirna was telling Charla that she (Charla) was the reason they lost time and she just needs to accept it and let it go. Wha!?! I don't think Charla is the one that needs to let it go.
stalemate
04-23-2007, 03:48 AM
I hope that whoever said bad things about Charla and Mirna took them back. They showed lots of character this week. What time does this version of Amazing Race air? I might try to catch it next week. I'm curious to see what you are watching because it obviously is not the 7:00 Central airing on CBS.
Jayjoans
04-23-2007, 04:00 AM
Go Beauty Queen!!
Which one are you rooting for?
stalemate
04-23-2007, 04:12 AM
However, I noticed that the BQs did not describe what happened accurately to E&D. They said that the $ was for "Yielding anyone but them". Umm... Nope... it was a specific yield to E&D.I noticed that too. I also noticed how Mirna assumed that the BQs hatched the whole idea to start with. Saying they "somehow convinced" D&O to yield E&D for money.
Did anyone else notice that Eric had the picture of D&O from the yield stuck to the seat of his pants? LOL -- you could see it clearly while they were waiting the 30 minutes to check in.
Ooof, I just want to punch Mirna in the face 4 or 5 times.
"Some people said we should just abandon Charla at the side of the road when she was born, but I said we shouldn't do that."
She so overstates every single thing, I don't know how people put up with her for more than 5 minutes.
This is the first time i'm caught up with the show all season, but is everybody else sick of the "These people are playing dirty by yielding"
Right, people should just not use whatever is in the rules to their advantage, because it might hurt somebody's feelings.
I do believe that nobody should yield anybody the first yield, because that's not good strategy, but on the last yield, knock yourselves out.
-smak-
Dssturbo1
04-23-2007, 06:46 AM
they give them $73 with a $50 ferry ride and several taxis to take?? shouldn't they give them at least the minimum to cover the leg, no matter if they had money from previous legs saved up like the BQs.
why didn't they have to use some of the money to do the sky drop?? I'm sure the general public has to pay.
there were 2 cars when O&D arrived last to pick up their car?? an extra in case one didn't crank??
TAR should tell us exactly how long the yeild last.
Phil walked the rim fo the Macua tower for episode promo, I wonder if he did the drop? it looked pretty safe with guide wires on both sides so no wind blown swaying and a rollout cable release not a bungee jump.
agree back to back non elim legs suck.
packerowner
04-23-2007, 07:17 AM
Horrible decisions by Danny and Oswald all around in this leg. I can't believe they stuck with the same IDIOT of a cab driver for virtually the entire leg..
We said the same thing. Only thing I could think of is that they didn't have the money to pay this cab and another cab.
danplaysbass
04-23-2007, 07:41 AM
Wow! I totally wasn't expecting the non-elim. It was O&D's idea to "sell" the Yield but it was also the BQ's idea to use it against E&D. I'm not sure why O&D felt so guilty about it. As long as it was considered legal in the game it worked out to both of their advantages at the time.
As for Eric and Danielle, I truly think he is an ass and she is a ditz but man alive did they play a good leg! Being last out of the gate and having 90 minutes of penalties and still beating O&D, not bad at all.
Anubys
04-23-2007, 07:55 AM
Eric was the only one to know that the tower was the tallest building...everyone else had to ask...
too bad it wasn't Dustin who did the bouncy bouncy thing with the noodles ;)
I wonder if Eric and Danielle would have been eliminated had they come in last...I'm starting to doubt that they are dating because they never kiss each other...
Mirna is such a b*tch!
pdhenry
04-23-2007, 08:24 AM
they give them $73 with a $50 ferry ride and several taxis to take?? shouldn't they give them at least the minimum to cover the leg, no matter if they had money from previous legs saved up like the BQs.I disagree. Making the teams manage their money over many legs adds another leyer of skill to the game play.
PS: It got lost in the orphaned thread, but I recognized the Conrad Hotel in Hong Kong when E&D were starting out. We stayed there for a few days in 2002. Nice place, even if for only 12 hours.
jradosh
04-23-2007, 08:42 AM
I hope that whoever said bad things about Charla and Mirna took them back. They showed lots of character this week. Examples? :confused:
Even though I don't think they're going to win, they did good so far, showing that you don't have to be perfect to succeed. :up:Flo showed that too. Hopeless, clueless and amazingly annoying people can win. They don't deserve it, but it can happen.
I sure hope Mirna doesn't win though. While not as bad as Flo, she is incredibly annoying. :rolleyes:
too bad it wasn't Dustin who did the bouncy bouncy thing with the noodles ;)
Sure it was, it was...no, that was...oh, crap. I still can't tell who is who.
ElJay
04-23-2007, 09:07 AM
I hope that whoever said bad things about Charla and Mirna took them back. They showed lots of character this week.
They raced another leg like two idiots... What's to take back? I did like the bus driver honking at them, though I suspect the editors threw in a few additional honks in there beyond what really happened.
Those acting even more stupid were Oswald and Danny, who roamed around like idiots for way too long. Is there some reason why they didn't write down turn by turn directions after the taxi driver took them to the end of the roadblock? That could have been a great bonus had they taken advantage of it.
Andrew_S
04-23-2007, 09:15 AM
Nice place, even if for only 12 hours.
The length of stay at the pit stop is not definitively stated, right? We know what time they arrived and what time they left, but we don't know what day the teams arrived and the day the teams left. So it may have been longer than 12 hours. It may have been a 36 hour pitstop.
Anubys
04-23-2007, 09:18 AM
Sure it was, it was...no, that was...oh, crap. I still can't tell who is who.
Dustin is shorter and cute...Candice is tall and has a horse face ;)
anyone else annoyed that the mid-race interviews -- for the second straight week -- with Mirna and Shmirma clearly showed that they did not get eliminated?
I have no idea why the producers are doing this... :mad:
anyone else annoyed that the mid-race interviews -- for the second straight week -- with Mirna and Shmirma clearly showed that they did not get eliminated?
I didn't even notice.
In fact, watching Eric and Danielle's clips, I thought they had been eliminated, and was wrong.
Amnesia
04-23-2007, 09:24 AM
However, I noticed that the BQs did not describe what happened accurately to E&D. They said that the $ was for "Yielding anyone but them". Umm... Nope... it was a specific yield to E&D.O&D also didn't accurately describe what happened. They told Mirna that the BQs approached them with the offer, when it was really the other way around.
Examples? :confused:
The part where they offered Danny and Oswald money when they needed it.
O&D also didn't accurately describe what happened. They told Mirna that the BQs approached them with the offer, when it was really the other way around.
No, we went back and checked after Mirna told Charla her story. Oswald said that "we approached them."
And to be fair, the BQs weren't honest with E&D at the end when they said that they told Cha Cha Cha to yield anybody else.
jradosh
04-23-2007, 09:36 AM
The part where they offered Danny and Oswald money when they needed it.
Maybe someone can confirm this 'cause my memory is hazy on this point, but didn't they only say something like "we would have given you money" after they found out that D&O already got money from the BQs? That's not the same as actually offering money.
pdhenry
04-23-2007, 09:41 AM
And to be fair, the BQs weren't honest with E&D at the end when they said that they told Cha Cha Cha to yield anybody else.I think the BQs interpreted Danny and Oswald's business proposition as a shakedown not to be yielded themselves, particularly when the subject of them being the yieldee was brought up by D/O just beofre they laid out what they were after. After they decide to go ahead with the offer one of them mumbles something to this effect.
IJustLikeTivo
04-23-2007, 09:42 AM
No, we went back and checked after Mirna told Charla her story. Oswald said that "we approached them."
And to be fair, the BQs weren't honest with E&D at the end when they said that they told Cha Cha Cha to yield anybody else.
So, far, not telling E & D the truth is about as close to Shady as the BQs have gone. I don't think the rest can really say that.
I just can't for the life of me understand why the contested don't get the yield and continue to think players are cheating when they use it?
And, of course, Mirna once again covered herself in stupidity with the question to the camera. "why would anyone use the yield so early in the leg?" How about cause that's where it was? I mean, it's not like you can save it to use later like a free spin on Wheel of Fortune. Additionally, the way she treated Charla this week was beyond the pale. Who was cutting the noodles? Uh huh, Mirna. So who is responsible for how fat they are? Uh huh, Mirna. What a tool.
Anubys
04-23-2007, 09:42 AM
I didn't even notice.
In fact, watching Eric and Danielle's clips, I thought they had been eliminated, and was wrong.
Mirna and Chmirna are relaxed, clean, and happy as they are re-counting what happened...teams that are eliminated don't talk like that...
I'm willing to bet that "buying/selling yield power" will be against the rules next year...
pdhenry
04-23-2007, 09:43 AM
Maybe someone can confirm this 'cause my memory is hazy on this point, but didn't they only say something like "we would have given you money" after they found out that D&O already got money from the BQs? That's not the same as actually offering money.No, actually the offer was made and D&O said "We wish we had had this conversation awhile ago, let's just say we've alleviated our money problems."
A true player would have taken the money.
IJustLikeTivo
04-23-2007, 09:45 AM
Maybe someone can confirm this 'cause my memory is hazy on this point, but didn't they only say something like "we would have given you money" after they found out that D&O already got money from the BQs? That's not the same as actually offering money.
All we know is how they edited the footage. The showed Charla talking to Oswald about the money and offering to "help". They discussed money directly only after Oswald discussed the BQ's paying them to yield E & D. Did it happen in that order? No way to know for sure.
Anubys
04-23-2007, 09:45 AM
Maybe someone can confirm this 'cause my memory is hazy on this point, but didn't they only say something like "we would have given you money" after they found out that D&O already got money from the BQs? That's not the same as actually offering money.
to be fair...Oswald was talking to Charla about their money trouble and Charla offered to give them some...Oswald said "I wish I'd known then what I know now" (or something like that)...so it was Charla that offered, not Mirna, and it was unsolicited...
IJustLikeTivo
04-23-2007, 09:49 AM
A true player would have taken the money.
Agreed. I'm not sure what anyone had to gain by disclosing the arrangement the two teams made. It would come out later but why they discussed this during the race puzzles me. They were just trying to make themselves feel good about something they had no reason to feel bad about in the first place.
They needed money, short of begging which I think is now prohibited, they needed to get money from the other teams and they had no way to know how fay back any of them were. If they needed money quickly to take a cab, getting it from the Bq's was their only real option and the only thing they had to offer was the yield.
IJustLikeTivo
04-23-2007, 09:50 AM
so it was Charla that offered, not Mirna, and it was unsolicited...
Yep. I can't believe Mirna"we're in this to win" would have given them money despite her holier than thou attitude.
martinp13
04-23-2007, 09:52 AM
I'm just glad C&M didn't come in last.... I would have been incensed that it was a non-elim leg. :)
jradosh
04-23-2007, 09:55 AM
Funny how memory works and how one can twist it based on one's likes and dislikes. I was sure I had it right :rolleyes:
Maybe someone can confirm this 'cause my memory is hazy on this point, but didn't they only say something like "we would have given you money" after they found out that D&O already got money from the BQs? That's not the same as actually offering money.
They offered them money, and D&O repeatedly refused. This was at the tower.
bigpuma
04-23-2007, 09:58 AM
All we know is how they edited the footage. The showed Charla talking to Oswald about the money and offering to "help". They discussed money directly only after Oswald discussed the BQ's paying them to yield E & D. Did it happen in that order? No way to know for sure.
They also showed Charla and Mirna talking to them while waiting in line to go up the tower. Charla asked if they needed money and either Danny or Oswald said it was taken care of. So they clearly talked about it before the yield but after the BQs had paid them to yield E&D.
AccidenT
04-23-2007, 10:10 AM
Mirna had some really sound "logic" about why you shouldn't use the yield. I'm sure she's a great attorney!
"Why would you ever yield someone who's already behind you? It doesn't make any sense! What if they catch up later?"
Yeah, Mirna, who would want to use a yield to greatly increase the chances that a separate 30 minute penalty will also be in play?
I'm also surprised that Mirna is a firm believer in karma despite the fact that they're still in the race.
I can only hope that they lose because of a task that Charla is fast at but Mirna can't do. Running through a tunnel w/ a low ceiling, maybe? Then Charla can yell for her to go faster and berate her for not practicing running through low tunnels ahead of time. :D
Anubys
04-23-2007, 10:16 AM
I'm also surprised that Mirna is a firm believer in karma despite the fact that they're still in the race.
that's it...the funniest post of this TAR season...no contest... :up: :up: :up:
IJustLikeTivo
04-23-2007, 10:19 AM
berate her for not practicing running through low tunnels ahead of time. :D
Agreed. What is the likelihood that any vehicle they might drive would be usable by a little person? Tiny as in non-existent. I don't think the car was drivable by Charla even in this case. All the full size people had no problems getting in so that cars were low to the ground but otherwise fairly normal.
My favorite line was one of the BQ's saying that working the dough was just like "riding the pony". I'm kind of surprised they left that line in.
cheerdude
04-23-2007, 10:34 AM
Is the Yield an hour delay? Yes, I know that it is a hourglass; but I wonder how long of a yield it truly is.
IJustLikeTivo
04-23-2007, 10:35 AM
Is the Yield an hour delay? Yes, I know that it is a hourglass; but I wonder how long of a yield it truly is.
it is generally speculated as being 1/2 hour long but I don't think they've ever given the time on the show.
robbins
04-23-2007, 11:03 AM
Good episode and I am glad that D&O are still in the game. I am sick of Eric and Danielle. In fact, they are one of the dumbest, whiniest teams I've ever seen. WHA, they yielded us, they're evil, I'm going to throw him off the bridge, WHA, nobody has it tough like us, WHA, WHA, WHA. IDIOTS!
Note to the racers: The YIELD is not against the law, against the rules, and does not come with bad karma if used, because it's there to be used, it's completely fair, and IT's A RACE, so stop whining about it!
Gunnyman
04-23-2007, 11:26 AM
rather than yield anyone at all, since the blondies had used their yield already, perhaps for the sake of karma it would have been better for D&O to just blackmail the blondies rather than yield anyone at all.
TriBruin
04-23-2007, 11:30 AM
My favorite line was one of the BQ's saying that working the dough was just like "riding the pony". I'm kind of surprised they left that line in.
Coming from them, that almost comes across as an innocent comment (only until my imagination starts running wild. :D ) And yes I was hoping Danielle would also "ride the pony", knowing Eric facitnation with her boobs, I am suprised he didn't force her to do that.
Mirna was in true form this episode. So mucht for the possible "winner's edit" that M&C seemed to be getting the last couple of episodes.
:down: to having two non-elimination legs in a row. The 30 minute penalty should mean something. I know the producers like to mix things up, but this was unacceptable.
danplaysbass
04-23-2007, 11:33 AM
rather than yield anyone at all, since the blondies had used their yield already, perhaps for the sake of karma it would have been better for D&O to just blackmail the blondies rather than yield anyone at all.
THAT would have been bad karma...
Amnesia
04-23-2007, 11:42 AM
Oh, yeah---if you believe in karma then of course blackmail would be so much better than simply playing by the rules and using a yield.
sean67854
04-23-2007, 11:52 AM
I am thoroughly convinced that the non-elimination legs are not predetermined, but rather dependent upon who actually comes in last.
Anyone else notice that whenever Mirna (is she the big one?) talks to anyone with an accent, she suddenly speaks very loudly, slowly, and with her own bizarre accent?
omnibus
04-23-2007, 11:52 AM
Most dangerous moment; Mirna trying to back the car away from the curb and building, while Charla stands in front of the car.
I did'nt rewind but it looked like maybe the cameraman warned her to get out of harms way!
heySkippy
04-23-2007, 12:05 PM
I am thoroughly convinced that the non-elimination legs are not predetermined, but rather dependent upon who actually comes in last.
If that were true I don't think Rob & Amber would have been eliminated so early. I'm sure the producers would have liked them to hang around a few more weeks.
markz
04-23-2007, 12:08 PM
I am thoroughly convinced that the non-elimination legs are not predetermined, but rather dependent upon who actually comes in last.
Anyone else notice that whenever Mirna (is she the big one?) talks to anyone with an accent, she suddenly speaks very loudly, slowly, and with her own bizarre accent?
She even started talking in her broken english when asking Charla if she thought that maybe she could drive the car some time.
Sirius Black
04-23-2007, 12:10 PM
Does anyone know what kind of law Mirna practices? Her biography just says she obtained her Juris Doctorate at age 23 (impressive). I'd really wonder if her on screen personality is something intentional to throw people off their game. I just can't imagine hiring someone with her on-screen personality to represent me or my interests.
PJO1966
04-23-2007, 12:12 PM
Does anyone know what kind of law Mirna practices? Her biography just says she obtained her Juris Doctorate at age 23 (impressive). I'd really wonder if her on screen personality is something intentional to throw people off their game. I just can't imagine hiring someone with her on-screen personality to represent me or my interests.
I don't know what kind of law she practices, but I can see her as a prosecutor.
IJustLikeTivo
04-23-2007, 12:55 PM
Does anyone know what kind of law Mirna practices? Her biography just says she obtained her Juris Doctorate at age 23 (impressive). I'd really wonder if her on screen personality is something intentional to throw people off their game. I just can't imagine hiring someone with her on-screen personality to represent me or my interests.
I would say Mal-practice Law, but that would be wrong.... ;)
I dunno, maybe she's a good lawyer, but she's a rotten human being. Sadly, not too uncommon in the legal profession. The fine lawyers here on TCF being the exceptions to that rule.
JETarpon
04-23-2007, 12:57 PM
I think the BQs interpreted Danny and Oswald's business proposition as a shakedown not to be yielded themselves, particularly when the subject of them being the yieldee was brought up by D/O just beofre they laid out what they were after. After they decide to go ahead with the offer one of them mumbles something to this effect.
It was clearly a shakedown. BQs have to pay O&D to yield someone else, or they get yielded. If O&D don't yield anybody, then the BQs are next and can yield whomever they want. The only issue is whether O&D yield the BQs or they yield someone else.
ETA: Woops. Forgot the BQs already used a yield and couldn't again. It was still a shakedown.
Magnolia88
04-23-2007, 12:58 PM
Let's just hope she doesn't practice immigration law.
You sign! Me takey the papers to the court-o!! Me get you be citizen!! Judge say yes! You likey? You likey!!!
I'm glad Danny and Oswald were spared by the non-elim.
But if Eric and Danielle had been spared AGAIN by two non-elims in a row, I would have been really annoyed. Please stop with the "poor us" already. Other teams aren't "evil" for using the yield. Don't tell me you wouldn't have done the same thing if you ever got to a yield early enough to use it. So shut up already.
Honora
04-23-2007, 01:01 PM
I don't know what kind of law she practices, but I can see her as a prosecutor.
I think I found her in the American Bar Association directory. There are two Mirna's in Maryland, but only one speaks Armenian. She practices Elder Law, Trusts & Estates, Probate, and Guardianship.
Maybe that's why she yells so much. She has to deal with older people who may be hard of hearing. Doesn't explain the weird accent though. It doesn't sound Armenian.
jeffo13
04-23-2007, 01:10 PM
What would have happened if E & D would have come in last? Would it still have been a non-elim? If so, I think it should have been a 1 hour penalty.
Jeff
Amnesia
04-23-2007, 01:11 PM
You sign! Me takey the papers to the court-o!! Me get you be citizen!! Judge say yes! You likey? You likey!!!LOL!!!
janry
04-23-2007, 02:12 PM
Danny and Oswald: Never in the history of whoring as the term "Nappy Headed Hos" been more appropriate to describe someone.
It was clearly a shakedown. BQs have to pay O&D to yield someone else, or they get yielded. If O&D don't yield anybody, then the BQs are next and can yield whomever they want. The only issue is whether O&D yield the BQs or they yield someone else.
ETA: Woops. Forgot the BQs already used a yield and couldn't again. It was still a shakedown.
Was the deal rendered moot when the BQs got #1 in the jump order ? they would have technically been past the yield marker since they didn't have to stand on the mat and say "we choose not to yield anyone". If they were already onto the roadblock, D&O couldn't have yielded them even if they wanted to.
Mirna really is a horrible person. I can't believe anyone watched this episode and concluded that she has an admirable character. The way she berated Charla all through the noodle task was unbelievable. I have seen 3 year olds with more moral character. And then she had the gall to tell Charla to just let it go! I also noticed that by the time of the cameos she was STILL yelling at Charla -- even after time to cool off she still could not just let go of it. Like it was so totally Charla's job to pay attention that Mirna bears no responsibility. And like Mirna has not made one mistake the whole race.
I also hate how when she's in an interview she's so supportive of Charla and says how strong she is for doing this with her limitations, etc. -- but then as soon as it gets rough she turns on Charla and yells at her because she can't do everything that a full-sized person can! "I don't see you practicing driving! This seat comes really far forward -- do YOU want to do it? I didn't think so." That is just mocking and plain old mean. Charla IS really brave and a good sport too and I am sure she does wish she could help with the driving, but she plainly can't and it's not her fault. Yelling at her for it is not being supportive. It's being cruel.
I feel bad for Charla and I would love to see her teamed up with somebody else. She is a great racer and she does seem like she could be great person but it's hard to separate her from Mirna the Witch. I felt the same way about Peter & Sarah.
I did enjoy the car scene. I loved when Mirna attempted to reverse the vehicle by pulling on it. I was LOL and had to rewind and watch it again. :D
Selling the yield was a very innovative way to problem solve. I am surprized that D&O were cutthroat enough to come up with it.
I don't much like Eric & Boobs, but they really did a fantastic job this leg overcoming the two time penalties.
How much time did D&O waste wandering around with that thing?! When they took the cab to the end of the task I actually thought it was pretty smart, since the drive back gave them the opportunity to see the route they would need to take on foot. Yet somehow that did not help them at all!
sean67854
04-23-2007, 02:53 PM
Howcome every time Danny and Oswald get out of a cab, Oswald (is he the bigger one?) says, "it's all I have"?
stalemate
04-23-2007, 02:55 PM
Howcome every time Danny and Oswald get out of a cab, Oswald (is he the bigger one?) says, "it's all I have"?That is the tail-end of him negotiating a lower cab fare maybe?
jradosh
04-23-2007, 02:56 PM
Mirna really is a horrible person. I can't believe anyone watched this episode and concluded that she has an admirable character.
But she offered money to D&O. That absolves them of all sin!!!
:p
But she offered money to D&O. That absolves them of all sin!!!
:p
Ha ha. Except, of course, she didn't. CHARLA offered money to D&O. We have no idea how Mirna felt about it.
But she offered money to D&O. That absolves them of all sin!!!
:p
No need to repeat it, Jeremy. I know you hate them. :p
Magnolia88
04-23-2007, 03:48 PM
Ha ha. Except, of course, she didn't. CHARLA offered money to D&O. We have no idea how Mirna felt about it.
And we can't know for sure if they really would have given money to the Cha Chas. It was just, "well, we would have been willing to give you some money," but only after they knew that D&O weren't taking it. I don't remember a plain offer of "here, take this money."
Mirna and Charla love to think of themselves as being the ones with "high morals" so of course they're going to say, "we would have helped out," but I haven't seen them put that into practice much.
I'm wondeirng why D&O didn't just refund the money to the BQ's and say we didn't need it after all, and then take the money from Charla & Mirna.
And do people even listen to themselves talk? I'm trying to figure out what a yielded team can do to their yielder later on to get back at them, and i'm drawing a blank.
The teams aren't going to help each other out at this point. So when they say that if they catch up they'll make them pay, or something stupid like that, i'm always thinking to myself, how??
I think Mirna plays to the camera more than any contestant i've ever seen. Blowing kisses to people, etc...
-smak-
uncdrew
04-23-2007, 05:18 PM
Uh, how are Cha Cha running out of money all the time?
I think there was that lemonade...
Hmm...
I too felt their task to be the easier one. Doing the noodles (twice, for 2/3rd of the teams) should have taken much longer than walking a drum a mile.
"God, give me the strength to accept those things I cannot change. And give me the intelligence to kill this cab driver..." :D
stalemate
04-23-2007, 05:38 PM
"God, give me the strength to accept those things I cannot change. And give me the intelligence to kill this cab driver..." :DHe actually asked for the intelligence to hide the body :p
PJO1966
04-23-2007, 05:38 PM
He actually asked for the intelligence to hide the body :p
That was probably the best line of the night.
spikedavis
04-23-2007, 05:57 PM
My friend is convinced the producers decided at the last minute to make this a non-elimination leg. But if there are two episodes left, they have to have 4 teams going into the next episode to make the final episode the Top Three. Make sense?
Neenahboy
04-23-2007, 05:57 PM
Uh, how are Cha Cha running out of money all the time?
Oswald (I think) was having tons of trouble in the newspaper challenge, so he used most of their remaining money to simply buy newspapers so he could complete it in a timely fashion.
uncdrew
04-23-2007, 06:23 PM
Oswald (I think) was having tons of trouble in the newspaper challenge, so he used most of their remaining money to simply buy newspapers so he could complete it in a timely fashion.
Ahh... I missed that somewhere. Thanks.
DevdogAZ
04-23-2007, 06:47 PM
They offered them money, and D&O repeatedly refused. This was at the tower.
Funny how memory works and how one can twist it based on one's likes and dislikes.
:D :D
DevdogAZ
04-23-2007, 06:51 PM
they give them $73 with a $50 ferry ride and several taxis to take?? shouldn't they give them at least the minimum to cover the leg, no matter if they had money from previous legs saved up like the BQs.
why didn't they have to use some of the money to do the sky drop?? I'm sure the general public has to pay.
there were 2 cars when O&D arrived last to pick up their car?? an extra in case one didn't crank??
TAR should tell us exactly how long the yeild last.
Phil walked the rim fo the Macua tower for episode promo, I wonder if he did the drop? it looked pretty safe with guide wires on both sides so no wind blown swaying and a rollout cable release not a bungee jump.
agree back to back non elim legs suck.
Some has been answered and some hasn't but I'll try to tackle them all.
The money they get on a leg isn't always sufficient to cover that leg's expenses. They are told to be frugal with the money. There was a leg either earlier in this season or in the last season when they were given $1 at the start of the leg, but had several cab rides and things to pay for. It's just another element of the game.
They never have to pay for the challenges they do, such as the roadblocks and detours.
They usually put extra clues in the clue box and extra cars at the car pick-up points so the last team to arrive at any particular point doesn't know for sure that they are last. It helps everyone continue racing as fast as possible, since if a team knows they're last, they might stop trying.
We don't know the exact length of the Yield, but most assume that it's around 30 minutes.
DLiquid
04-23-2007, 08:57 PM
I'm rooting for Charla and Mirna all the way. I wouldn't want to be friends with Mirna, but she's made this season so entertaining that I have to root for her. I find myself waiting for her to do something outrageous. She's just too funny.
Gunnyman
04-23-2007, 09:05 PM
That is the tail-end of him negotiating a lower cab fare maybe?
or not tipping.
DLiquid
04-23-2007, 09:13 PM
Anyone else notice that whenever Mirna (is she the big one?) talks to anyone with an accent, she suddenly speaks very loudly, slowly, and with her own bizarre accent?Don't forget the huge amount of sarcasm and attitude she usually throws in :D. The best though is when Charla gets into it too and they start speaking their own twisted dialect, complete with lots of exaggerated hand gestures.
JLucPicard
04-23-2007, 09:16 PM
:down: to having two non-elimination legs in a row. The 30 minute penalty should mean something. I know the producers like to mix things up, but this was unacceptable.
This does confuse me some. As someone mentioned, if there are two episodes left (after this one), the second to last usually drops things from four teams to the final three. It's pretty much been a gimme that if the team marked for elimination does not finish with at least a half-hour lead on the last team to actually arrive that they are out of the race. I don't recall for sure from the previous week, but it seems to me that the last to arrive on a non-elimination leg is "marked for elimination". Did Phil use those words when E&D finished last? It would seem to me, then, that if D&O had finished within the half-hour wait time (thus making E&D last to arrive again), would they have been eliminated because they were "marked", or would they have been "marked" again for next week because it was a non-elimination leg again?
I don't know if I've been this confused about an aspect of TAR before.
If I remember right, somewhere in the initial conversation (at least the one we were shown) with Oswald, Charla said they would have given them some money. I believe that was a genuine statement on her part - maybe because it was moot at that point - but I believe she would have made that offer anyway. What I also believe is that she would have been in for another verbal bruising from Mirna for offering, and ultimately they would not have given them any money.
I kind of agree with Ruth that I think Charla is really not such a bad person. Mirna is her cousin and I'm sure she will stick up for her, but I wonder what it would have been like if she was racing with someone else. Then the thought occured to me - I wonder what kind of team it would have made to have Charla teamed up with Sarah? I liked Sarah, too, but couldn't stand that jackhole she was with (Peter?). Seemed like he made her do all the challenges, and sat back and relaxed and "encouraged" her. My memory of that may not be completely accurate, though, because I had an attitude about him.
LOVED Oswald's line about having the intelligence to hide the cabbie's body when he killed him - LOL funny! :D
I don't recall for sure from the previous week, but it seems to me that the last to arrive on a non-elimination leg is "marked for elimination". Did Phil use those words when E&D finished last?
He did, and he explained the rules about the 30 minute penalty and finished by saying if they ended up last that they "may be eliminated."
And i'm pretty sure that he told O&D that if they're last the next leg they WILL be eliminated.
Somebody seems to post a chart of when all the non elimination rounds have been in the series around this time of each year, and they pretty much line up with what we've seen this year.
I think they usually do 3, and I believe they'd done 3 so far. I do actually like the fact they made something harder to figure out. Usually Yield = elimination, but now it's a possibility it won't be in the future, so strategies must be adjusted.
-smak-
Cragmyre
04-24-2007, 09:14 AM
Aren't we due for a "this isn't the end of this leg of the race" thingy?
And i'm pretty sure that he told O&D that if they're last the next leg they WILL be eliminated.
Somebody seems to post a chart of when all the non elimination rounds have been in the series around this time of each year, and they pretty much line up with what we've seen this year.
Heh...I've done that a couple times... :o
AccidenT
04-24-2007, 10:39 AM
Usually Yield = elimination, but now it's a possibility it won't be in the future, so strategies must be adjusted.
-smak-
Actually, out of the 11 TAR legs where the yield has actually been used, only 5 have been elimination legs. So, usually yield = non-elimination. ;)
However, I think the numbers for all available yields (vs ones that were actually used) show more elimination legs, because it's usually the yields in the early legs that go unused.
Sirius Black
04-24-2007, 10:48 AM
Aren't we due for a "this isn't the end of this leg of the race" thingy?
With four teams remaining, my guess is that we do have one of those coming up. IIRC, last season was an hour finale but in past seasons, the finale has been two hours. Maybe not this coming week (gotta get it down to three) but the following week that brings them back to the US will probably be one of those.
dirtypacman
04-24-2007, 10:55 AM
Big thumbs down for me in the results of Sundays show. I cannot stand the way AR has changed the show to accomodate the results they want this year. I would love to see a race from start to finish that was 100% legit without the producers changing the format/results based upon that leg or the previous leg.
Big thumbs down for me in the results of Sundays show. I cannot stand the way AR has changed the show to accomodate the results they want this year. I would love to see a race from start to finish that was 100% legit without the producers changing the format/results based upon that leg or the previous leg.
I've seen nothing that makes me believe that's true. No matter what leg you put the non-elims on, someone benefits, someone is unhappy, and half the world thinks it's a conspiracy.
Jebberwocky!
04-24-2007, 11:09 AM
I've seen nothing that makes me believe that's true. No matter what leg you put the non-elims on, someone benefits, someone is unhappy, and half the world thinks it's a conspiracy.
I don't know why everyone is so eager to assume the worst.
If it was fixed, Romber would still be in the race :)
pmyers
04-24-2007, 11:23 AM
Was the deal rendered moot when the BQs got #1 in the jump order ? they would have technically been past the yield marker since they didn't have to stand on the mat and say "we choose not to yield anyone". If they were already onto the roadblock, D&O couldn't have yielded them even if they wanted to.
The BQs would have been smarter to negotiate giving O&D the money AFTER they yielded somebody. This would make sure that O&D did follow through, and in this case the BQs could have simply said the deal was off since they arrived first and could no longer be yielded, or payed O&D and still have them yield E&D.
Amnesia
04-24-2007, 11:34 AM
The BQs would have been smarter to negotiate giving O&D the money AFTER they yielded somebody.If they had done that, then O&D would have gotten money from C&M and wouldn't have yielded anybody.
crowtoo
04-24-2007, 11:36 AM
They usually put extra clues in the clue box and extra cars at the car pick-up points so the last team to arrive at any particular point doesn't know for sure that they are last. It helps everyone continue racing as fast as possible, since if a team knows they're last, they might stop trying..
I don't think that this is true. There have been several times in different seasons where a team will arrive at the clue box and retrieve their clue and say, "We're last." or something to that effect. I know I've heard it more than once.
Chris
crowtoo@earthlink.net
markz
04-24-2007, 11:42 AM
I don't know why everyone is so eager to assume the worst.
If it was fixed, Romber would still be in the race :)
Yeah, I wish it was fixed! I miss ROMBER! Not so much the RO part, just the MBER part!
They should have their own show or something! Maybe call it "Surviving the Amazing Romber"
pmyers
04-24-2007, 11:42 AM
I don't think that this is true. There have been several times in different seasons where a team will arrive at the clue box and retrieve their clue and say, "We're last." or something to that effect. I know I've heard it more than once.
Chris
crowtoo@earthlink.net
That was probably the first few seasons. For quite a while now they have been adding additional clues, cars, etc to through off both the racers and the viewers.
Mikkel_Knight
04-24-2007, 12:10 PM
I think AR should put more Yields into the game. Only having 2 of them kind of limits the "retribution" factor. Having more would certainly make it more interesting. Not one every leg, but maybe one every other leg or every third leg. That way, more people could use the Yield (or would have the ability to use it) and there could be more consequences for using it. Right now, there's very little consequences for using it at all.
DevdogAZ
04-24-2007, 12:55 PM
I think AR should put more Yields into the game. Only having 2 of them kind of limits the "retribution" factor. Having more would certainly make it more interesting. Not one every leg, but maybe one every other leg or every third leg. That way, more people could use the Yield (or would have the ability to use it) and there could be more consequences for using it. Right now, there's very little consequences for using it at all.
That's the way it was in the first few seasons of TAR. It rarely got used, so maybe they decided that only putting a couple of them on the race would be more likely to cause the racers to actually use it.
TivoZorro
04-24-2007, 12:59 PM
Maybe I'm alone in this, but I've never disliked more teams than this year:
Can't stand
1. Mirna & Charla
2. Beauty Queens
3. Eric & Danielle
And that leaves Danny & Oswald who I hope win - if not I will be very angry!
TheDewAddict
04-24-2007, 01:00 PM
I wish they'd have more fast forwards. The FF used to be a strategic part of the game. Now that they only have 2, it's basically taken by the first team to get their clue on that leg. They should at least have them on 1/2 of the legs or something.
DevdogAZ
04-24-2007, 01:03 PM
I wish they'd have more fast forwards. The FF used to be a strategic part of the game. Now that they only have 2, it's basically taken by the first team to get their clue on that leg. They should at least have them on 1/2 of the legs or something.
Now that I can agree with.
I wish they'd have more fast forwards. The FF used to be a strategic part of the game. Now that they only have 2, it's basically taken by the first team to get their clue on that leg. They should at least have them on 1/2 of the legs or something.
I agree. Either have lots, or none. All it does now is take a 1st place team and get them to the pit stop faster. There's not really much strategy. In the past, you would defer if you were near the top so you could use it when you needed it.
Anubys
04-24-2007, 01:45 PM
I agree. Either have lots, or none. All it does now is take a 1st place team and get them to the pit stop faster. There's not really much strategy. In the past, you would defer if you were near the top so you could use it when you needed it.
that's true this year...but one FF last year didn't work that way, right?
bobsbizzy
04-24-2007, 01:49 PM
I've seen nothing that makes me believe that's true. No matter what leg you put the non-elims on, someone benefits, someone is unhappy, and half the world thinks it's a conspiracy.
Correction. "Half the INTERNET world thinks it's a conspiracy". :D
bobsbizzy
04-24-2007, 01:52 PM
Must be about time for me to say........................
GO Mirna and Charla. We love you. :D
that's true this year...but one FF last year didn't work that way, right?
Looking at the results, it appears that the BQs passed on a FF and came in first anyway. I don't recall the details.
Anubys
04-24-2007, 01:55 PM
Correction. "Half the INTERNET world thinks it's a conspiracy". :D
that's what they would like you to think! ;)
TriBruin
04-24-2007, 02:05 PM
Must be about time for me to say........................
GO Mirna and Charla. We love you. :D
You are using "WE" in a very limited fashion, correct? :) I think that we can count on two fingers the number of poster supporting Mirna & Charla.
markz
04-24-2007, 02:24 PM
You are using "WE" in a very limited fashion, correct? :) I think that we can count on two fingers the number of poster supporting Mirna & Charla.
Only if you count bobsbizzy twice!
IJustLikeTivo
04-24-2007, 02:31 PM
That's the way it was in the first few seasons of TAR. It rarely got used, so maybe they decided that only putting a couple of them on the race would be more likely to cause the racers to actually use it.
I think you're confusing the FF and the yield. Originally, there was a FF every leg but you could only use it once and there were no yields at all. Yields came in season 5, the same time they cut back on the FF.
stalemate
04-24-2007, 02:53 PM
Looking at the results, it appears that the BQs passed on a FF and came in first anyway. I don't recall the details.The 2 teams (it was an intersection) that took the fast forward had to eat cow lips. I don't remember much else about it, but I'm assuming they had to eat a large amount and it took longer than the time the BQs spent on the other tasks.
Edit: The following is from the episode summary on cbs.com:
TASTE OF VICTORY
Arriving at the Analakeley Market, models Tyler & James and dating couple Rob & Kimberly became increasingly worried as they ran past stands of raw meat and slaughtered animals. The quartet stopped dead in their tracks at stand eleven where four plates of very unappetizing cow lips waited to be consumed. Kimberly commented, "It was disgusting. The hair was still there. There was fat on it. There were teeth there still." While Tyler initially suggested reading the Detour options again, James and Rob reminded him that they would be too far behind to switch tasks now. "Mind on the prize," James ordered.
BEDDING DOWN
As Rob & Kimberly and James & Tyler began choking down cow lips, the other four Teams arrived at the open market and began covering foam mattresses. The quick, athletic beauty queens made the task significantly easier for brothers Erwin & Godwin, but it came with a price. Erwin noted, "Working with the blondes was efficient, but it was tough competing against our friends."
After wrapping up the mattresses, the Cho brothers and beauty queens took the lead as each Team carried four mattresses through the narrow alleys of the city with a local guiding them to the address where they needed to deliver them.
CATCHING UP
As James cleaned his plate of cow lips to set an example and motivate his allies, beauty queens Dustin & Kandice arrived at Totohotohobato Ambondrona Analakeley to discover a Roadblock. In this Roadblock, one team member had to search among dozens of rubber stamp vendors spread across these steep staircases that connect the city's upper and lower districts and find the four vendors whose stamp matches the imprint of a boat, train, plane, and car on their clue. Once they got the stamp of each vehicle on their clue, they had to travel two and a half miles alone to the next Pit Stop, the Cathedral Andohalo, where their teammates, who had traveled here separately, would be waiting for them.
With Dustin beginning her search for the stamps and Kandice on her way to the Pit Stop already, an oblivious Tyler & James and Rob & Kimberly continued to eat cow lips convinced the no one could pass them before they finished. After Rob cleaned his plate, only Tyler and Kimberly remained, but Dustin already found all four stamps as Tyler insisted, "We're gonna have a good lead. We're golden."
WINNERS AGAIN
Even though her taxi needed to stop for gas, Dustin arrived at the Pit Stop in first place where a thrilled Kandice greeted her as the beauty queens stepped onto the mat.
Big thumbs down for me in the results of Sundays show. I cannot stand the way AR has changed the show to accomodate the results they want this year. I would love to see a race from start to finish that was 100% legit without the producers changing the format/results based upon that leg or the previous leg.
The fact that Rob & Amber's last place finish wasn't a non elimination round kind of blows any conspiracy theory like that out the window.
Every year somebody thinks that they're playing around with things like this, and every year they're pretty much proven wrong.
-smak-
DLL66
04-24-2007, 09:58 PM
Go BEAUTY QUEENS!!
Everybody else really sucks!! Dustin and Candace are very level headed and hardly get excited when things don't go as planned. :up:
Inundated
04-24-2007, 11:05 PM
I thought I posted, but apparently in another TAR thread that went away...
I'd have to agree. I've never been heavy on Conspiracy Theories, but one would assume if CBS/the TAR producers had any such hand in the show in that manner, they'd have kept Rob-n-Ambuh in as long as they could.
Nope.
And again, for the hundredth time: I don't like the Yield. I think it's too "gimmicky".
But it's a part of the game. Both E&D and C&M worrying about it, whining about it, calling it evil? Enough.
Glad to see you're still around, bobsbizzy. If they win...at least one person in America not related to them will be happy.
;)
KyleLC
04-25-2007, 02:23 AM
And we can't know for sure if they really would have given money to the Cha Chas. It was just, "well, we would have been willing to give you some money," but only after they knew that D&O weren't taking it. I don't remember a plain offer of "here, take this money."Smeek. Charla offered the money before she knew they didn't need it. This was already discussed in this thread.
fmowry
04-25-2007, 07:20 AM
And again, for the hundredth time: I don't like the Yield. I think it's too "gimmicky".
But it's a part of the game. Both E&D and C&M worrying about it, whining about it, calling it evil? Enough.
I thought the Yield "made" this episode. It was quite a bit more exciting with the bartering, animosity, tension revolving around the yield.
I don't get the dislike for E&D here. Sure they argue but so do the Queens (not the BQs, the others) and everyone loves them. Eric needs a "double Propecia treatment" after the stress of this leg.
I really wanted to see the whole period of time where Shmarma and Marma had to get the car off the curb. Did they get a local to do it? They really seemed stuck. I can't believe Mirpa criticized Shirpa for not practicing driving a stick when every car she's gotten into, she's said, "I can't drive this!".
Frank
Double-Tap
04-25-2007, 10:13 AM
Wow! I totally wasn't expecting the non-elim. It was O&D's idea to "sell" the Yield but it was also the BQ's idea to use it against E&D. I'm not sure why O&D felt so guilty about it. As long as it was considered legal in the game it worked out to both of their advantages at the time.
I think it's amusing when people believe the BQ's were blackmailed into buying their safe passage from O&D. If anyone was blackmailed, it was O&D. I doubt O&D would have yielded any team had the BQ's said no to their "offer." That was their original plan in the first place, not to yield anyone. Then again, why would the wonderful BQ's have to be threatened or coerced to loan money to a team in a such a desperate situation? What would Miss America do? What do they do? <sigh>
O&D could have asked any of the other teams (good, kindly, helpful Charla and Mirna!) for donations if they knew they were low on money. They must have known the bank was almost broke, since Danny had already blew away most of their spare cash with his irresponsible spending habits. it's not like they had never ran the race before and were clueless about what to expect or how much money to keep on reserve. The BQ's had some $200 for buying yields and bribes. Bad planning boys.
I take this opportunity to announce the BQ's are now officially known as the Yield Queen's (YQ's). Plus, they declared the title for themselves. E&D never saw the second yield coming. Eric even mentioned on the way there, that they had already been targeted and someone else would be picked. Rest easy kids. Bam! Smack! E&D were not happy campers after seeing their picture on the yield station. The words "they're all sneaky and back-stabbers" comes to mind. E&D will be out for blood, very specific kinds of blood.
O&D prostituted (Oswald reference) their yield decision, and of all people to the YQ's. <sigh> What did they get for their $45 of trouble? They come in last place along with a 30 minute penalty if they don't make first place next time. They narrowly missed Phil's big boot on their bony hindquarters. They lost their free playtime watercraft to the YQ's, and made two more enemies than they needed to. It's the bad Karma O&D deserved. They should ask for a refund, or at least a donation.
As for Eric and Danielle, I truly think he is an ass and she is a ditz but man alive did they play a good leg! Being last out of the gate and having 90 minutes of penalties and still beating O&D, not bad at all.
So Eric is an ass man? I never liked the idea of them as an all stars team, since they were never an original team to begin with. But they could have paired him with Flo so it's all right. Eric plays a decent race and wants to win. Danielle does her thing and starts the artificial boobs fans salivating. It was extremely impressive how they fell so far behind and came back to race again. With luck like they have, who knows what will happen on the last leg.
Amnesia
04-25-2007, 10:34 AM
I think it's amusing when people believe the BQ's were blackmailed into buying their safe passage from O&D. If anyone was blackmailed, it was O&D.How could you possibly say that O&D were blackmailed when it was them who approached the BQs with the offer?
...If anyone was blackmailed, it was O&D.
Uh...ok. :confused:
I take this opportunity to announce the BQ's are now officially known as the Yield Queen's (YQ's). Plus, they declared the title for themselves.
Big deal. That's like a baseball player being called the Strikeout King or the Stolen Base King.
E&D will be out for blood, very specific kinds of blood.
Well then, Kandice and Dustin should be very careful when the hand-to-hand combat leg comes up.
They should ask for a refund, or at least a donation.
OK, now I know you're doing this on purpose.
It was extremely impressive how they fell so far behind and came back to race again.
They did a Detour cleanly, I'll give them that. Although, I don't think it was all that monumental of a task. But if it weren't for an "hours of operation" bottleneck, and pure ridiculous stupidity on D&O's part, they'd be gone... er, correct that. Even if they were last, they'd be back to race again. They'd be Marked for Elimination again. ;)
pmyers
04-25-2007, 11:31 AM
I thought the Yield "made" this episode. It was quite a bit more exciting with the bartering, animosity, tension revolving around the yield.
I don't get the dislike for E&D here. Sure they argue but so do the Queens (not the BQs, the others) and everyone loves them. Eric needs a "double Propecia treatment" after the stress of this leg...Frank
My problem with them is their anger over being yielded and calling it dirty and personal and blah blah blah. It's an aspect of the game....get over it.
Of course that's easy for me to say not being in the game....I'm sure I'd be pretty p*ssed off if I was him ;)
scottykempf
04-25-2007, 11:57 AM
"Hours of Operation" takes on a whole new meaning in this ep.
Gate opens at 10AM. Everyone runs inside.
Then they cant go up to the top until 11AM. Geesh.
Amnesia
04-25-2007, 12:06 PM
The tower opened at 10. The Skywalk/jump wasn't open until 11. What's so strange about that?
There's more to the Macau Tower than the Skyjump.
MrCouchPotato
04-25-2007, 12:55 PM
I wonder when using a Fast Forward will be considered as playing dirty.
That is like yielding everybody! :eek:
pmyers
04-25-2007, 01:20 PM
I wonder when using a Fast Forward will be considered as playing dirty.
That is like yielding everybody! :eek:
Imagine if they changed the Yield so that you could yield ANYBODY, not just a team behind you. Wouldn't that be awesome? Some team is ahead of you doing another task and then a message comes over their AR supplied Nokia phone "Please immediately stop what you are doing. You have been yielded by Team X. Please wait for another call when you can proceed". Damn that would be cool!
fmowry
04-25-2007, 01:43 PM
My problem with them is their anger over being yielded and calling it dirty and personal and blah blah blah. It's an aspect of the game....get over it.
Of course that's easy for me to say not being in the game....I'm sure I'd be pretty p*ssed off if I was him ;)
"We're in last place and our chance at 1 mill is slipping away, and now someone just put us back another half hour. Yay!!!". :)
I'm just glad we haven't seen the last of them. (By them I mean the sweater meat. I couldn't care less about Eric!)
Frank
PJO1966
04-25-2007, 02:07 PM
Imagine if they changed the Yield so that you could yield ANYBODY, not just a team behind you. Wouldn't that be awesome? Some team is ahead of you doing another task and then a message comes over their AR supplied Nokia phone "Please immediately stop what you are doing. You have been yielded by Team X. Please wait for another call when you can proceed". Damn that would be cool!
Even better, as a team arrives at the Pit Stop, they get informed by Phil that Team X Yielded them and they need to step off them mat. :up:
Anubys
04-25-2007, 02:35 PM
Even better, as a team arrives at the Pit Stop, they get informed by Phil that Team X Yielded them and they need to step off them mat. :up:
I though pmyers' suggestion was mean...but this would be pure evil...
I LOVE IT :D :up: :up: :up:
Sirius Black
04-25-2007, 02:44 PM
I don't think I've heard discussion on whether or not E&D will find out that it was really the BQs that asked D&O to yield them. Would this change their blood lust for D&O's neck at all? Would they understand or care? D&O certainly had no trouble disclosing it to Charla/Mirna. I wouldn't be surprised if Charla/Mirna let their version of the story slip to E&D causing more friction. It certainly is a play style.
KyleLC
04-25-2007, 03:04 PM
I though pmyers' suggestion was mean...but this would be pure evil...I think that once they're on the mat, it should be too late to yield them. And change the name of it from "Yield" to "Freeze," since it could be used to stop people in the middle of something. :)
KyleLC
04-25-2007, 03:07 PM
BQsAm I the only one who always thinks he sees BBQ, as in "barbecue," everytime he sees BQ? Maybe it's a Texan thing. :)
Sirius Black
04-25-2007, 03:26 PM
Am I the only one who always thinks he sees BBQ, as in "barbecue," everytime he sees BQ? Maybe it's a Texan thing. :)
mmm... Texas BBQ and BQs.... /drool
pmyers
04-25-2007, 04:32 PM
I don't think I've heard discussion on whether or not E&D will find out that it was really the BQs that asked D&O to yield them. Would this change their blood lust for D&O's neck at all? Would they understand or care? D&O certainly had no trouble disclosing it to Charla/Mirna. I wouldn't be surprised if Charla/Mirna let their version of the story slip to E&D causing more friction. It certainly is a play style.
I don't think there is any doubt that E&D will find out exactly what happened and I'd bet before the next leg. These teams eat/sleep together during the legs and I'm sure this will be a hot topic.
bobsbizzy
04-25-2007, 05:57 PM
Anyway the Yield didn't seem to be much of a penalty this time as it seemed that most of the time they spend being Yielded would have been spent waiting for thier turn on the Skyjump.
scottykempf
04-25-2007, 06:47 PM
Am I the only one who always thinks he sees BBQ, as in "barbecue," everytime he sees BQ? Maybe it's a Texan thing. :)
You want to cover the Beauty Queens in BBQ sauce????
Double-Tap
04-26-2007, 12:56 AM
How could you possibly say that O&D were blackmailed when it was them who approached the BQs with the offer?
It's a figure of speech and no reason to get bogged down with semantics. I'm implying they used O&D as much as O&D used them. The BQ's saw this as a chance to use another team to their advantage - two guys down on their luck - and they pounced on it. You can call what O&D proposed as an offer, or at the extreme blackmail, but my point is they weren't forced to submit to anything if they didin't want to. It was too tempting to pass up and turned out to be a real bargain.
Anubys
04-26-2007, 07:30 AM
It's a figure of speech and no reason to get bogged down with semantics. I'm implying they used O&D as much as O&D used them. The BQ's saw this as a chance to use another team to their advantage - two guys down on their luck - and they pounced on it. You can call what O&D proposed as an offer, or at the extreme blackmail, but my point is they weren't forced to submit to anything if they didin't want to. It was too tempting to pass up and turned out to be a real bargain.
well, it's not as much semantics as you make it seem...the BQs' main concern was to not get yielded...that's all they wanted when D&O made their initial offer...once they realized they can get even more for the same price, they didn't shy away...I think it's an important distinction...
Amnesia
04-26-2007, 08:53 AM
It's a figure of speech and no reason to get bogged down with semantics. I'm implying they used O&D as much as O&D used them.No---you said:If anyone was blackmailed, it was O&D.That implies that O&D were blackmailed more than the BQs. But still, how could that be possible? The BQs didn't approach O&D. How can call it blackmail when all the BQs did was take O&D up on their offer?
The BQ's saw this as a chance to use another team to their advantage - two guys down on their luck - and they pounced on it. No again. O&D came up with the offer and the BQs accepted. They didn't "pounce" on a a team "down on their luck"---they were given an offer and they accepted. If you think the offer was unfair, then you can only blame O&D.
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