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limoman
04-05-2007, 08:27 PM
I'm currently using the MX-600 Home Theater Master IR/RF Remote and MRF-100 Base Station to control the components in my equipment cabinet. The remote works great on all my components except for my Series 2 TiVo.

I've read numerous threads about RF remotes overloading the TiVo remote receiver. The most common suggestion is to cover the receiving eye with tape or some other item. I have not been successful with this approach at all.

I'm not a dummy - but I can't even find the receiving eye. Can anyone explain exactly where it is? The two little LED type "windows" in the front are not the eye. I've tried blocking them completely but the TiVo remote (peanut) still works - so those apparently are not it. Has anyone had success with an RF remote and TiVo?

Is there another RF remote solution that doesn't overload the TiVo remote control receiving eye?

I know that's a lot of questions, but any help is appreciated.

gastrof
04-05-2007, 11:37 PM
TiVo doesn't work with RF remotes, and I don't see how one would be able to affect a TiVo.

RF means "radio frequency".

IR means "infra red" which is the method used by TiVo remotes and TiVo IR blasters/emitters.

Tell us more about what you're talking about. Maybe try to start all over again, using the correct terms. It'll help us understand what you're dealing with.

(As for covering a TiVo's "eye" or IR sensor with something like tape, if that's the sensor you meant, the very idea is insane. The Tivo NEEDS to be able to see remote impulses in order to function. I seriously doubt anyone suggested this, and you must have misunderstood something.)

limoman
04-06-2007, 12:17 PM
TiVo doesn't work with RF remotes, and I don't see how one would be able to affect a TiVo.

RF means "radio frequency".

IR means "infra red" which is the method used by TiVo remotes and TiVo IR blasters/emitters.

Tell us more about what you're talking about. Maybe try to start all over again, using the correct terms. It'll help us understand what you're dealing with.

(As for covering a TiVo's "eye" or IR sensor with something like tape, if that's the sensor you meant, the very idea is insane. The Tivo NEEDS to be able to see remote impulses in order to function. I seriously doubt anyone suggested this, and you must have misunderstood something.)
Hi Gastrof: Thanks for the response. Actually, I'm very familiar with the differences between an RF and IR remote. The remote I'm using (MX-600) uses RF to communicate with its base station (MRF-100). The base station then converts the RF signal back to an IR signal. This allows me to control my components from another room, or without the need to point my remote directly at the devices. This part is actually a very basic premise for how RF remotes work with IR type components.

It's a well documented issue that TiVo's IR sensor is sensitive to IR overload. That is why others have been able to resolve this issue by covering (or more precisely, partially covering) the IR sensor. Part of the problem I'm having is that I can't even locate the sensor on this TiVo. No matter what I block, the signal still gets through.

Basically - I'd like to be able to control my TiVo without having to point my remote directly at the unit. (A wired solution, using a remote receiving eye, is not an option for me because of the logistics of my equipment location.) Hope this helps clear up what I'm trying to accomplish and the problems I'm having. Thanks.

Edmund
04-06-2007, 12:48 PM
TiVo doesn't work with RF remotes, and I don't see how one would be able to affect a TiVo.

RF means "radio frequency".

IR means "infra red" which is the method used by TiVo remotes and TiVo IR blasters/emitters.

Tell us more about what you're talking about. Maybe try to start all over again, using the correct terms. It'll help us understand what you're dealing with.

(As for covering a TiVo's "eye" or IR sensor with something like tape, if that's the sensor you meant, the very idea is insane. The Tivo NEEDS to be able to see remote impulses in order to function. I seriously doubt anyone suggested this, and you must have misunderstood something.)

All RF universal remotes are IR only controlling remotes, but use there own RF frequency to do it from afar.

pilott
04-06-2007, 01:00 PM
What is the problem you are experiencing?

I am using a Harmony RF remote and sometimes it acts as if I had pushed the button twice, though at other times it misses my presses completely.

limoman
04-06-2007, 01:29 PM
What is the problem you are experiencing?

I am using a Harmony RF remote and sometimes it acts as if I had pushed the button twice, though at other times it misses my presses completely.
My problem is that TiVo is not responding to the commands from the base station. If I point the remote directly at the TiVo it works properly....but once it goes through the base station the success is sporadic at best.

cableguy763
04-06-2007, 04:44 PM
I am using an MX-3000 with my DTS2 without any problems. I use the blackouts to hold the IR emitter in place. The IR receiver on the S2 is about three inches from the right side of the box in the middle of the black panel.

limoman
04-06-2007, 05:21 PM
I am using an MX-3000 with my DTS2 without any problems. I use the blackouts to hold the IR emitter in place. The IR receiver on the S2 is about three inches from the right side of the box in the middle of the black panel.
Thanks!