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Whittaker
03-12-2007, 12:31 AM
One of my TiVos is connecting to the server again over a short time frame every couple of days. It just connected at 11:55 PM and it's set to connect again at 4:23 AM, less than 4.5 hours later. It did a similar thing Friday, I think it was less than 6 hours. My other TiVos routinely have more than 24 hours or as much as 30+ hours between connections.
Anyone else experience this abnormality ?
elrcastor
03-12-2007, 10:31 PM
is the connection status pending restart?
Whittaker
03-14-2007, 08:58 PM
No, it's just what is supposed to be a "daily" call. The next day it went back normal. It seems to only do it every couple of days.
steve614
03-15-2007, 12:10 AM
Maybe the initial call was interrupted somehow and the Tivo "knew" to call in sooner rather than later?
Just a guess.
TiVoStephen
03-15-2007, 12:56 AM
We have a degree of randomness built in so that we don't get clumps of units all calling at the same time. The algorithm is designed to have one day a week where your unit makes two connections to the TiVo service. What you describe, as weird as it sounds, is perfectly normal.
Best regards,
Stephen
Whittaker
03-16-2007, 01:27 AM
But this TiVo did it three times in like five days.
ZeoTiVo
03-16-2007, 09:36 AM
But this TiVo did it three times in like five days.
well - that would be .............random ;)
Whittaker
03-18-2007, 03:46 AM
Yes – it would.
But he posted that "The algorithm is designed to have one day a week where your unit makes two connections to the TiVo service". This TiVo did it three days in less than a week.
Got it ?
Why on earth are you awake between 11:55 and 4:23 on 3 (or more) days in a week? Sheesh.
Oh, and look up "micromanagement" in your favorite dictionary :p
rdrrepair
03-19-2007, 01:56 AM
Oh, and look up "micromanagement" in your favorite dictionary :pI'll tell you, some of your answers are very funny. I really enjoy reading them.
:D
Insert man with stick poking a hornets nest!
ZeoTiVo
03-19-2007, 09:41 AM
Yes – it would.
But he posted that "The algorithm is designed to have one day a week where your unit makes two connections to the TiVo service". This TiVo did it three days in less than a week.
Got it ?
if this is important to you than some more details would be helpful. are all the Tivos on broadband? Are some on phone line? How old is the unit that is connecting more often? what model number's of TiVo's ? Did you check the guide data status on the TiVo that is calling more frequently, perhaps that TiVo is having trouble indexing the guide data?
Whittaker
03-19-2007, 01:30 PM
Why on earth are you awake between 11:55 and 4:23 on 3 (or more) days in a week? Sheesh.
I wasn't.
All I had to do was read the time on the screen for the next scheduled connection.
Sorry if that was too complicated a concept for you to grasp.
Oh, and look up "micromanagement" in your favorite dictionary.
What does "micromanagement" have do with the fact that one of my TiVos is acting abnormally while my other two units are not ?
Thanks for all your gracious assistance.
Whittaker
03-19-2007, 01:36 PM
if this is important to you than some more details would be helpful. are all the Tivos on broadband? Are some on phone line?
No. They are all on one phone line.
How old is the unit that is connecting more often?
About two years old.
what model number's of TiVo's ?
The two that are two years old are Toshiba SD-H400s S2s, and the one that is much newer is a Toshiba RS-TX20 S2.5. The one SD-H400 that is acting up is actually used less often than the other one.
Did you check the guide data status on the TiVo that is calling more frequently, perhaps that TiVo is having trouble indexing the guide data?
Every thing checks out fine.
ZeoTiVo
03-19-2007, 04:03 PM
No. They are all on one phone line.
About two years old.
The two that are two years old are Toshiba SD-H400s S2s, and the one that is much newer is a Toshiba RS-TX20 S2.5. The one SD-H400 that is acting up is actually used less often than the other one.
Every thing checks out fine.
hmm, I have an SD H400 tha the kids are using in the bonus room. It is on broadband and I have not checked its frequency.
With these details maybe it is the phone line getting some short or interference making a call fail. TiVo will set up to call in again fairly soon in such a case.
Thanks for all your gracious assistance.
I try :o
Whittaker
03-19-2007, 06:59 PM
With these details maybe it is the phone line getting some short or interference making a call fail.
The unit that is acting up actually shares the same line with the S2.5 between the units and the wall jack, so it can't be that either. I'll see what it does this week.
(Since I misunderstood before, time for some productive attempts at diagnosing this ...)
Perhaps both units happened to dial at the same time (range, considering the call takes a few minutes) and one of them was just a few momens/minutes too late and failed to get a clear phone line, leading the algorithm to postpone the call by a few hours instead of waiting the entire day (or random period in the vicinity of 26+ hours).
ZeoTiVo
03-19-2007, 08:29 PM
(Since I misunderstood before, time for some productive attempts at diagnosing this ...)
Perhaps both units happened to dial at the same time (range, considering the call takes a few minutes) and one of them was just a few momens/minutes too late and failed to get a clear phone line, leading the algorithm to postpone the call by a few hours instead of waiting the entire day (or random period in the vicinity of 26+ hours).
thanks for your gracious assistance in stealing my Thunder ;)
thanks for your gracious assistance in stealing my Thunder ;)
See post #15 above :p
Whittaker
03-20-2007, 10:36 PM
(Since I misunderstood before, time for some productive attempts at diagnosing this ...)
Perhaps both units happened to dial at the same time (range, considering the call takes a few minutes) and one of them was just a few momens/minutes too late and failed to get a clear phone line, leading the algorithm to postpone the call by a few hours instead of waiting the entire day (or random period in the vicinity of 26+ hours).
Nah, for almost a year, those two have only come within minutes of connecting ONCE, and because the S2.5 always has a bit of a delay, the one finished before the other started. The odds of them overlapping three times over five days is pretty long (plus they didn't as I've been monitoring them).
You see, I have to daily monitor all three TiVos, because I have them, plus a dial-up computer, and phones, all on one phone line, so I need to make sure the TiVos get to connect if they're not scheduled overnight or are prevented from connecting because the line is in use. Long story, but I only have one pair left in the phone cable coming through the back woods, and the phone company can't do anything about it until mid Summer at the earliest as they need to replace a bunch of poles as well.
That's why I noticed so readily that one of the TiVos was abnormally connecting over a short time frame three days out of five. I have to write down and keep track of their scheduled connect times.
Here's a suggestion - do what I did back when I couldn't get broadband and was stuck with dialup :)
Get an Earthlink account, and stay logged in either forever, or have it log in dynamically on-demand
Share that dialup Internet connection out (Windows: ICS, Linux: even easier) over the ethernet to your switch (or router - just don't use the WAN port), and have this 'enable' all your TiVos. Of course, you'll need adapters/cables/router (wired or wireless - your choice) etc too.
Whenever ANY TiVo demands a connection (heck, even every 15 minutes, since it thinks its on broadband, by virtue of being networked), your PC/modem will redial out :)
Bonus: MRV/TTG/TTCB/HMO/Joy
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