Survivor 3/01/2007

[astrohip]

Nice twist at the immunity challenge. Dumb dumb dumb decision by Moto though. Lesse what's wrong with this logic...

"Let's vote out one of our strongest members, so we don't have to worry about her when we merge."

Have you considered that you're well over one week, and probably 6-8 challenges, away from a merge? You got more to worry about at Day 10 than end game strategy. :eek:

Sorry to see Papa Smurf go. :(

And is any else tired of those long, boring shaquiles :D

[LordKronos]

I thought immunity clue #4 was utterly useless. I was just a combination of the information of from the previous 3 clues (and some of the wording copied directly from clue #1) and it provided absolutely no new information.

What the heck was with that snake scene just before tribal council? At first I thought the snake was shedding its skin, but it didn't look like that for long. Then I though maybe it was a reverse video of the snake swallowing a giant slug or something, but the snake didn't move. That was just creepy.

I was expecting Papa Smurf to hold out until the challenge and then just let the other team win so they can vote him out.

[jking]

I thought immunity clue #4 was utterly useless. I was just a combination of the information of from the previous 3 clues (and some of the wording copied directly from clue #1) and it provided absolutely no new information.

I agree it was pretty useless, but at the same time there wasn't a lot more to say. What else can you tell other than maybe "it's buried exactly 2 feet deep"?

As for the choice to stay at the comfortable camp and vote out another member, I couldn't believe it. I understand wanting to stay comfortable and fat and strong for challenges, and what the good camp can do to accomplish that, but to basically volunteer to go to tribal? Ridiculous. And then to top it off by voting off one of your strongest basically because the other two chicks in your alliance are jealous of her? Ridiculous.

That's not to mention what going to tribal could do for team morale, in terms of the fact that they now have their first taste of backstabbing. I think this could be a big turning point in the game. The strong tribe just became a whole lot weaker.

[MNoelH]

I was really sorry to see Papa go too. It's kinda too bad they didn't find a real reason for his illness. He didn't appear to be faking it or anything and he really didn't give up until after several days, but if I were he, I'd really want a diagnosis of some sort.

WOW! I am amazed that not only did they give up a tribe member over comfort (this is Survivor... they signed up to rough it and haven't had to ye), but they gave up one of their strongest players? If they were willing to give up a strong player, why not boot off the annoying one? :confused:

[Jeeters]

I was shocked they decided to cut lose another member just to keep their camp. That's what I call tribal unity. :rolleyes:

I also found it sort of ironic.... Rocky was sarcastically going off earlier about how they might as well just call Jeff and say "we're ready to vote off somebody now", and then it turns out the *other* team pretty much actually *was* willing to vote somebody off.

[LordKronos]

Oh, and I almost forgot....I think there's going to be a blur in my nightmare tonight. :eek:

[ThreeSoFar'sBro]

Did we get an update on Papa Smurf? I assume he's ok, but I don't think they mentioned it.

Don't they give clues for the immunity idol that sort of repeat for the benefit of those who haven't been to the island yet?

[astrohip]

What the heck was with that snake scene just before tribal council? At first I thought the snake was shedding its skin, but it didn't look like that for long. Then I though maybe it was a reverse video of the snake swallowing a giant slug or something, but the snake didn't move. That was just creepy.
I had to go back and slo-mo it. :eek: I know nothing about reptiles, but I'm guessing it was molting? :confused: Do snakes even molt?

[Rob Helmerichs]

I had to go back and slo-mo it. :eek: I know nothing about reptiles, but I'm guessing it was molting? :confused: Do snakes even molt?
It was regurgitating.

Snakes are pretty helpless when they're digesting, so if they feel threatened, they just puke it all up.

[drew2k]

Ha.. Rocky actually called it "the Jeff phone!" :)

Last season was my first Survivor ever, and I loved it. I'm really starting to get bored, and can only hope that Moto's selfishness is the start of a reversal of fortune for the Bad News Bears (Ravu).

[Sadara]

Snakes do molt, but he was puking up his meal. Camera was probably too close freaking it out. Up came dinner.... pretty gross isn't it?!

I'm curious about Papa Smurf too..... time to google.

Moto = Stupid People.

[Sadara]

Well Poo.... SurvivorFever.net doesn't know what Papa Smurf's illness was, so I doubt anyone knows right now. I sure wish they would have told us!

[LordKronos]

Don't they give clues for the immunity idol that sort of repeat for the benefit of those who haven't been to the island yet?

Every visitor gets to see all of the previous clues. Tonight, all 4 clues were written on one piece of paper. Thats how I knew half the wording of clues #1 and #4 were identical.

[Chapper1]

I think this decision will come back to bite Moto. You NEVER voluntarily go to tribal!!! I remember there were a few tribes that threw an immunity challenge and they ended up losing that momentum and ended up at a disadvantage later on.

I think they have lost sight of the fact that they signed up for a game to rough it and they are getting too used to the pampered life and eventually, they will need to act like Survivors...

[astrohip]

It was regurgitating.

Snakes are pretty helpless when they're digesting, so if they feel threatened, they just puke it all up.
I hope that snake was being threatened by a snail, 'cause that was about a 30 second regurge. :)

[katbug]

I was hoping for a diagnosis on Papa Smurf too. Kinda odd that they didn't give us one...the only thing that makes sense about them keeping it from everyone is if they were somehow responsible for whatever was going on. But probably not, lol.

I understood why the tribe opted to keep the camp...it's helping them to win challenges with the good rest, food, etc. So ultimately it came down to "Are you willing to sacrifice a member in order to not have to again? or Give the other team the advantage so that you can stay together this time, but have to start losing people later?" Pretty simple choice.

This is kinda what I mentioned after the first episode about them having to decide between luxury or immunity. I was so excited that they listened to me, lol. Oh, all right, maybe not, but it was still exciting to see my plan put into action. Very cool twist! I hope they use it each time!

[pkscout]

Ha.. Rocky actually called it "the Jeff phone!" :)

Last season was my first Survivor ever, and I loved it. I'm really starting to get bored, and can only hope that Moto's selfishness is the start of a reversal of fortune for the Bad News Bears (Ravu).

I'm bored as well. I've watched every season of Survivor, and this is the first one where I have absolutely not one person I'm rooting for. I'm kind of hoping for some weird disease to infect both tribes, have them *all* have to go home, and then have them get better in a week. You know, cause I'm mean, not sadistic. ;)

I guess if that happens the camera crew can split the million.

[DevdogAZ]

I was hoping for a diagnosis on Papa Smurf too. Kinda odd that they didn't give us one...the only thing that makes sense about them keeping it from everyone is if they were somehow responsible for whatever was going on. But probably not, lol.

I understood why the tribe opted to keep the camp...it's helping them to win challenges with the good rest, food, etc. So ultimately it came down to "Are you willing to sacrifice a member in order to not have to again? or Give the other team the advantage so that you can stay together this time, but have to start losing people later?" Pretty simple choice.

This is kinda what I mentioned after the first episode about them having to decide between luxury or immunity. I was so excited that they listened to me, lol. Oh, all right, maybe not, but it was still exciting to see my plan put into action. Very cool twist! I hope they use it each time!
I also thought they made the right decision. After being together for probably a week or more (didn't notice what day they're on) without voting anyone out, they probably feel like losing one person isn't going to hurt them and I thought they'd have an easy time choosing. I was surprised to find out that they were pretty divided about who to kick off, as I was fairly certain that someone would have made themselves a target. I think they made a stupid choice voting out Lilliana, but I'm sure they were thinking that they could get rid of Cassandra whenever they want to, while Lilliana may have been able to manipulate her way into some alliances that would threaten them.

Overall, the luxurious camp has really helped Moto be dominant, so losing a person is probably better than giving that up. I'm just hoping I'm wrong and that Ravu turns the corner next week.

And I'm with Katbug about hoping they offer the "switch places or go to TC" thing at least once more before the merge.

[DevdogAZ]

I'm bored as well. I've watched every season of Survivor, and this is the first one where I have absolutely not one person I'm rooting for. I'm kind of hoping for some weird disease to infect both tribes, have them *all* have to go home, and then have them get better in a week. You know, cause I'm mean, not sadistic. ;)

I guess if that happens the camera crew can split the million.
I think it's pretty common at this point of the season for people to be looking fondly at the previous season, when they knew people very well, and comparing it with the current season when we don't know anyone well at all. I'll bet that there are posts like this every time, including last season. By the time it gets to the merge, there will be people we like and people we hate. It just takes time.

[katbug]

Yeah, Liliana was a bad choice. As badly as I felt for Cassandra, she was the obvious choice to strengthen their team. But I also see why the girls wanted her gone...she was starting to move in and influence the guys in another way, which ultimately could have overshadowed the "friendship/alliance" the 5 had going. So, smart move from the girls, dumb move for the team.

[katbug]

By the time it gets to the merge, there will be people we like and people we hate. It just takes time.
No more time for me...Rocky is my villain. He's taken over and they've all rolled over and followed his lead, then to lose it like he did tonight...4 words: He Has To Go!

[montag]

A kind size bed???? Survivor has officially jumped the shark! This show is but a shell of its former self.

Rocky has become quite the tool.

[drew2k]

So if Ravu won the immunity challenge, which would be their first win ever, who here thinks they would willingly go to Tribal Council just to switch camps and live at the Moto Spa? I do.

[Rob Helmerichs]

So if Ravu won the immunity challenge, which would be their first win ever, who here thinks they would be still willingly to go to Tribal Council just to switch camps and live at the Moto Spa? I do.
There's certainly enough animosity among them.

That's why I was so surprised that Moto choose to go. I thought they were a tighter group, but they seemed to decide pretty quickly (unless that was editing)...

[markz]

...This is kinda what I mentioned after the first episode about them having to decide between luxury or immunity. I was so excited that they listened to me, lol. Oh, all right, maybe not, but it was still exciting to see my plan put into action. Very cool twist! I hope they use it each time!

I too posted in an earlier thread that I would choose to lose a player and keep the camp/food/etc. I think it will be far more beneficial to keep the other team weak.

It would be different if the other team had won a challenge or two along the way, but they haven't won anything.

The only thing that would make me think the other way, was losing Papa Smurf which would put them with even numbers after volunteering to give up a player.

In the past, when someone has had to leave the game for an injury/illness, haven't they skipped the elimination? This time it could have a bigger effect with Moto losing 2 players the same day.

[Sadara]

I'm bored as well. I've watched every season of Survivor, and this is the first one where I have absolutely not one person I'm rooting for. I'm kind of hoping for some weird disease to infect both tribes, have them *all* have to go home, and then have them get better in a week. You know, cause I'm mean, not sadistic. ;)

I guess if that happens the camera crew can split the million.

Add me to the bored count!!

[heySkippy]

I'm enjoying this season, although not as much as some years past. I appreciate that Survivor tries to change things a bit year to year and that not everything will work given the unscripted nature of the show.

After 4 episodes, I'm finally starting to put names and faces and attitudes together. Hopefully it'll start rocking a little harder soon.

[TriBruin]

I too posted in an earlier thread that I would choose to lose a player and keep the camp/food/etc. I think it will be far more beneficial to keep the other team weak.

It would be different if the other team had won a challenge or two along the way, but they haven't won anything.

The only thing that would make me think the other way, was losing Papa Smurf which would put them with even numbers after volunteering to give up a player.

In the past, when someone has had to leave the game for an injury/illness, haven't they skipped the elimination? This time it could have a bigger effect with Moto losing 2 players the same day.

I am wondering if this was supposed to be some sort of double elimination and that the producers changed it after Pappa Smurf had to leave the game.

[AJRitz]

I'm waiting for someone from Moto to get sent to Exile Island and read clues that make it clear that the immunity idol exists ONLY at the Ravu camp. I expected initially that there was one idol buried at each camp. But I'm not so convinced now. I think there may only be an idol buried at the Ravu camp.

[pmyers]

Wow...what a stupid move by Moto. First they volunteer to go to TC THEN they proceed to vote off a very strong player. I don't agree with either decision. That's the same as throwing a challange on purpose. No matter what you always want to have a numbers advantage.

And that snake scene was the must disturbing thing I've ever seen. It's not bad enough I have to watch snakes but then to have to watch one snake throw up ANOTHER snake, that's just too much.

[betts4]

I missed the episode but am sort of getting the idea of what happened. Papa Smurf went home due to illness, Moto won the immunity challenge and got to the reward of staying in the luxury camp but losing a tribe member and thats what they chose. I see the reasoning for the wanting to stay, but not voting off a strong member (as it seems happened).

[Rob Helmerichs]

And that snake scene was the must disturbing thing I've ever seen. It's not bad enough I have to watch snakes but then to have to watch one snake throw up ANOTHER snake, that's just too much.
I don't think that was a snake. It was just partially digested food, which took the shape of its container--i.e., a snake.

[pkscout]

I think it's pretty common at this point of the season for people to be looking fondly at the previous season, when they knew people very well, and comparing it with the current season when we don't know anyone well at all. I'll bet that there are posts like this every time, including last season. By the time it gets to the merge, there will be people we like and people we hate. It just takes time.

By this time in the season my wife and I generally have a couple of folks for which we're rooting, but not this season. As for last season, I can barely remember who won, have no idea where they were, and thus can't really look back fondly on it. ;)

[drew2k]

By this time in the season my wife and I generally have a couple of folks for which we're rooting, but not this season. As for last season, I can barely remember who won, have no idea where they were, and thus can't really look back fondly on it. ;)Here's a Clue: Yul on Cook Islands with the Hidden Immunity Idol. (Professor Ozzie was the runner-up.)

[MegaHertz67]

In the past, when someone has had to leave the game for an injury/illness, haven't they skipped the elimination? This time it could have a bigger effect with Moto losing 2 players the same day.Back when Survivor started with 16 people, they could only lose one per show to keep the number of episodes consistant at 15 episodes. (13 episodes, 1 mid-season catchup/recap, and the reunion show)

When they went to 18, 19, or 20 survivors, it gave them the ability to change up the game and make both tribes go to tribal council, or make one tribe lose two in one week. Alway beware if you are a survivor and the sealed bottle comes out at an immunity challenge.

I knew at some point the opportunity to flip cams was going to come into play. I would have lost a tribe member to stay at the good camp...without question. Even at 7 to 7 now, Ravu hasn't won a damn thing yet and is not much of a threat if they don't eat consistantly and don't rest well because of crappy shelter and surroundings.

Getting rid of Liliana was stupid, but you see stupid quite often on Survivor.

[MegaHertz67]

Here's a Clue: Yul on Cook Islands with the Hidden Immunity Idol. (Professor Ozzie was the runner-up.)
That's Soft Core Porn Star Ozzie.

[heySkippy]

That's Soft Core Porn Star Ozzie.
The bits I saw weren't all that soft. ;)

[TriBruin]

I'm waiting for someone from Moto to get sent to Exile Island and read clues that make it clear that the immunity idol exists ONLY at the Ravu camp. I expected initially that there was one idol buried at each camp. But I'm not so convinced now. I think there may only be an idol buried at the Ravu camp.

But didn't Jeff say at the beginning that there were TWO hidden immunity idols? I guess that doesn't mean that there is one at each camp, but, it not, where is the 2nd?

[tivoboyjr]

Wow...what a stupid move by Moto. First they volunteer to go to TC THEN they proceed to vote off a very strong player. I don't agree with either decision. That's the same as throwing a challange on purpose. No matter what you always want to have a numbers advantage.

I agree. If Papa Smurf could have held on a little longer, it would make perfect sense to keep the camp and vote him out, because he was going anyway. But now they've evened out the numbers between the teams AND lost one of their strongest competitors (who contributed greatly to all of those wins). Furthermore, Liliana looked good in a bikini and I'm sorry to see her go. This season was lacking in eye candy, anyway, and now there's none. The other team seems like a mess, but Moto gave Ravu a chance to get back in the game.

[Donbadabon]

But didn't Jeff say at the beginning that there were TWO hidden immunity idols? I guess that doesn't mean that there is one at each camp, but, it not, where is the 2nd?

I thought that the clues would change based on which tribe member was at Exile Island.

So there are two idols, 1 at each tribe, but you don't get the clue for the one at the competing camp.

At least that was what I was thinking.

[jking]

But didn't Jeff say at the beginning that there were TWO hidden immunity idols? I guess that doesn't mean that there is one at each camp, but, it not, where is the 2nd?

I had read in an earlier thread that there were supposedly two idols this season. I didn't hear Jeff say so, so I don't know for sure. I've been going with that this whole season though, and had assumed an idol at each camp. Both camps have caves, so it would be easy for them to place an idol under the highest point of each cave and use the same clues for each. Or they could have different clues for each camp. It brings up an interesting thought though: if the bad camp people had won the challenge and had the same choice as the good camp people did (sorry, I still don't have the tribe names straight), what would the people who have been to Exile have thought about it, knowing they were potentially giving up their chance to get the idol if they switched camps?

[murrays]

I would have lost a tribe member to stay at the good camp...without question. Even at 7 to 7 now, Ravu hasn't won a damn thing yet and is not much of a threat if they don't eat consistantly and don't rest well because of crappy shelter and surroundings.

I totally disagree. The challenges haven't been blowouts and you're counting on winning future challenges.

Moto would have an 8-6 numbers advantage which means they would have to lose 2 consecutive immunity challenges to be where they are now. Not likely IMHO.

Remember what the Alan Alda sound-a-like said last year? Something to the effect of "there's a million dollars at stake here." Don't make decisions to be comfortable while giving up your advantage in the game :rolleyes:

-murray

[tivoboyjr]

I totally disagree. The challenges haven't been blowouts and you're counting on winning future challenges.

Moto would have an 8-6 numbers advantage which means they would have to lose 2 consecutive immunity challenges to be where they are now. Not likely IMHO.

Remember what the Alan Alda sound-a-like said last year? Something to the effect of "there's a million dollars at stake here." Don't make decisions to be comfortable while giving up your advantage in the game :rolleyes:

-murray

Being able to sit people out of the challenges is a big advantage, too. In the past, Moto could sit Cassandra, Lisi or whomever out, but now their weakest links have to compete.

[pkscout]

I thought that the clues would change based on which tribe member was at Exile Island.

So there are two idols, 1 at each tribe, but you don't get the clue for the one at the competing camp.

At least that was what I was thinking.

I've been wondering if the two camps are setup in a way that the clues would be valid at either camp. I believe there is a cave at both camps, for instance.

[pkscout]

Remember what the Alan Alda sound-a-like said last year? Something to the effect of "there's a million dollars at stake here." Don't make decisions to be comfortable while giving up your advantage in the game :rolleyes:

I tend to think going to tribal council is always a bad idea, but the "good" camp isn't just about comfort. There is a strategic advantage to the food as well as not having to work as hard at camp. I think that difference shows in the fact that Moto often starts behind but ends up winning challenges in the end. Ravu starts with a head of steam but can't maintain it to the end.

In fact, if Moto had actually voted off the weakest member rather than turning on themselves at the first chance, I might have even said the decision was great strategy. Voting Lillian out just made the decision dumb.

All that said, even though it's 7-7 again I think Moto still has the advantage. Really the first immunity challenge might end up deciding the entire tribe part of the game, which is very disappointing.

[pkscout]

Being able to sit people out of the challenges is a big advantage, too. In the past, Moto could sit Cassandra, Lisi or whomever out, but now their weakest links have to compete.

True. Now maybe Lisi can have that stupid smirk wiped off her face when she actually has to do something besides cheer and sit back confident that she is in the numerically advanced alliance.

[MegaHertz67]

Being able to sit people out of the challenges is a big advantage, too. In the past, Moto could sit Cassandra, Lisi or whomever out, but now their weakest links have to compete.Great point. If he had still been there, Papa Smurf would have had to compete because he sat out the last challenge. They could have lost and not had the choice to make about camp.
True. Now maybe Lisi can have that stupid smirk wiped off her face when she actually has to do something besides cheer and sit back confident that she is in the numerically advanced alliance.She should have been the one voted out. Ya gotta wonder what some people are thinking.

[jking]

Great point. If he had still been there, Papa Smurf would have had to compete because he sat out the last challenge. They could have lost and not had the choice to make about camp.

I'm sure Papa would have been the one they put in the final jail cell, so his performance wouldn't have hurt the team so much, but they would have had to stick Cassandra somewhere. They could have put her in the final cage in the water and all she would have had to do is row the boat, gaining folks to help her out as they made their way back to shore. But I agree, it would have weakened them overall. I'm pretty sure Ravu could have found a way to lose it anyway though. :D

She should have been the one voted out. Ya gotta wonder what some people are thinking.

I cracked up at Lisi and the stunned look on her face when Dreamz suggested she was one of the weaker players along with Cassandra. Is she living in some fantasy world where she thinks she's one of the stronger players?

[pmyers]

I still don't see any scenario where I would voluntarily go to Tribal Council...That was like them loosing 2 immunity challanges in a row. Perhaps if Papa Smurf had not gone and he really was begging to go, then MAYBE it would make sense but definately not after he already had left.

[Honora]

Great point. If he had still been there, Papa Smurf would have had to compete because he sat out the last challenge. They could have lost and not had the choice to make about camp.
She should have been the one voted out. Ya gotta wonder what some people are thinking.

Can anyone remember how many challenges Lisi has sat out? My husband is sure of two, but I think it was more.

[montag]

Oh, and that Lisi woman (?) is hideous. WTF???

[pkscout]

Can anyone remember how many challenges Lisi has sat out? My husband is sure of two, but I think it was more.

I don't remember precisely, but it is certainly my impression that she sits out every time she has a chance (i.e. every other one). That would certainly qualify in my book as someone the tribe could afford to lose.

[Fl_Gulfer]

The girls were jealous, is the only reason they booted that girl off, she was massaging the guys earlier thats why she is gone. They needed to get rid of that redhead, she is a waste of island.

[katbug]

I'm not sure it was jealousy so much as worry that she was getting to the guys that they were already counting on. All it takes is a little tease to lose guys out there, as we've seen year after year. It was a good strategy except for the strength factor. Like I said earlier, good for the "team", bad for the tribe.

[bruinfan]

I've been wondering if the two camps are setup in a way that the clues would be valid at either camp. I believe there is a cave at both camps, for instance.
otherwise, if ravu won, and they switched camps, yao-man would've been pissed!

[JLucPicard]

I'm sorry, but it seems that every time Dreamz speaks, it reminds me of Tracy Morgan's character on 30 Rock.

I think it would be a cool twist that when the tribes merge, they live in the 'bad' camp and not the 'good' one.

I wish we could have known what happened to Papa Smurf, too, but I think we got the information that was available at the time Jeff made the announcement.

I wanted to like Rocky, but I'm having a hard time with that. Though I do think that Anthony should be the next to go from Ravu.

[Jayjoans]

A king size bed???? Survivor has officially jumped the shark! This show is but a shell of its former self.



You don't remember the coffee maker plugged into the tree stump a few seasons ago?

[katbug]

or the blackberry one survivor snuck onto the island?? teeheehee

[Boot]

http://www.rimarkable.com/images/survivor_blackberry.jpg

[sushikitten]

I thought immunity clue #4 was utterly useless. I was just a combination of the information of from the previous 3 clues (and some of the wording copied directly from clue #1) and it provided absolutely no new information.

What the heck was with that snake scene just before tribal council? At first I thought the snake was shedding its skin, but it didn't look like that for long. Then I though maybe it was a reverse video of the snake swallowing a giant slug or something, but the snake didn't move. That was just creepy.

I was expecting Papa Smurf to hold out until the challenge and then just let the other team win so they can vote him out.

+1 to everything - that snake thing was utterly disgusting...there was no need for that long of a scene.

[worachj]

'Papa Smurf' in good shape after leaving 'Survivor' (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/entertainment/16821806.htm)

So Gary, the big question — what happened? Did the medics figure out what was wrong with you?

At first they thought it was a heat rash, but I knew it wasn't. You noticed all the bug bites I had? It was an allergic reaction to the bites. That's why I had the loss of breath and the nausea. Oh, man, I'd never had anything like that happen to me. I couldn't focus. I couldn't stand up straight. But once they got the anti-toxins in me, I was in pretty good shape.

[IJustLikeTivo]

Snakes do molt, but he was puking up his meal. Camera was probably too close freaking it out. Up came dinner.... pretty gross isn't it?!

I'm curious about Papa Smurf too..... time to google.

Moto = Stupid People.

I don't think so. The snakes head came out first. It was clearly dropping the outer layer of scales or at least that's the way it looked to me.

[astrohip]

What happened to the previous night's loser being on the CBS Friday Morning Show? As bad as the interviewers are (is there a worse morning show than CBS?), we did get an inside glimpse into the island life & politics of Survivor. Is the loser appearing anywhere? :confused:

(smeek of Rob from a couple of weeks ago, but never answered)

[DevdogAZ]

I don't know. I have a Manual SP for The Early Show on Fridays and Mondays (for Survivor and TAR) and they've had the TAR folks on recently but not the Survivor castaways.

[InterMurph]

Post deleted--smeek.

[steve614]

I don't think so. The snakes head came out first. It was clearly dropping the outer layer of scales or at least that's the way it looked to me.

I thought "molting" myself until I realized that "the scales" were coming out from INSIDE the snake.
Snakes don't molt from the inside out.

[laria]

I don't think so. The snakes head came out first. It was clearly dropping the outer layer of scales or at least that's the way it looked to me.
I don't know, I saw a tongue flicker from the original snake after whatever was coming out was done coming out.

[Ferguson]

I don't get what would have happened if Ravu had won the challenge.

Would they also have been given the choice of switching camps or voting someone off? Tough call! ;) If that's the case then the producers are stacking the deck against Moto now. Can't say that I blame them.

Oh and I think Moto made the right decision also. That camp is a huge strength advantage. But the girls made a mistake in pushing the Lilliana decision on the rest of their alliance. They didn't need to show their inner 2-person alliance this early.

[sushikitten]

Enough talking about the snake! :D

[DevdogAZ]

I don't know, I saw a tongue flicker from the original snake after whatever was coming out was done coming out.
That's what I thought too, but slowed it down and it's not a tongue. It's just some slime from whatever it was that came out of the mouth.