Prison Break 2/26 "Wash" (Spoilers)

[Rob Helmerichs]

OK, I'm only two minutes in. But if they don't play that tape for us by the end of the episode, I'm done with this show forever.

[astrohip]

See ya' :D

Seriously, at the beginning of the previews for next week (this is not a spoiler), they said "4 episodes left". This season? Ever? This month? Till we get frustrated & leave?

This show has been fun, but they need to bring it to a close. If ever a show called for a finite number of episodes, PB is it.

Oh, and "Dr. Stannel" in the front of the plane with <forgot guard's name>. What are the odds? And where are they both going? Do all planes to Thailand go thru Mexico City or Ixtapa?

[terpfan1980]

By what I understand the show was basically arc'd for 3 seasons. I can bear with it a little longer, though I'd have to say that there's only so much further that they can go before it's just not going to be worth watching.

[dswallow]

By what I understand the show was basically arc'd for 3 seasons. I can bear with it a little longer, though I'd have to say that there's only so much further that they can go before it's just not going to be worth watching.
People did kinda say that sort of thing about the first season, too... and look how the second season went. :)

[canonelan2]

See ya' :D

Seriously, at the beginning of the previews for next week (this is not a spoiler), they said "4 episodes left". This season? Ever? This month? Till we get frustrated & leave?
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I caught that too... replayed it just to make sure I didn't miss "... this season" Anyone got an answer on this? Was Prison Break cancelled?

[dswallow]

Every year it's the same. People try to read more into things like the "episodes left" bumper than are actually there.

[Rob Helmerichs]

Every year it's the same. People try to read more into things like the "episodes left" bumper than are actually there.
Yeah, obviously at this point Fox doesn't have a clue if it's four left this season or ever, since they haven't started deciding which shows they'll bring back next year.

Probably we'll find out in May (the up-fronts), maybe a little sooner if they leak.

[canonelan2]

Every year it's the same. People try to read more into things like the "episodes left" bumper than are actually there.

Usually it's something like "4 episodes left until the unforgettable season finale!"

According to Futon Critic (http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch.aspx?id=prison_break) it hasn't been renewed yet. (not sure how accurate they are though)

[balboa dave]

Yeah, obviously at this point Fox doesn't have a clue if it's four left this season or ever, since they haven't started deciding which shows they'll bring back next year.

Probably we'll find out in May (the up-fronts), maybe a little sooner if they leak.Unless it's House or Bones (http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20070216fox01). ;)

[DancnDude]

I hate hate hate it when shows build up to some "big" thing like the tape, then the characters find out what it's all about but they leave the audience in the dark. Very frustrating! I can't imagine the actual audio tape will live up to the fake hype they are creating for it.

[gchance]

OK, I'm only two minutes in. But if they don't play that tape for us by the end of the episode, I'm done with this show forever.

Rob, I can't wait until next week, when you start the new thread.

Greg

[JYoung]

People did kinda say that sort of thing about the first season, too... and look how the second season went. :)

You mean like Lost?

Every year it's the same. People try to read more into things like the "episodes left" bumper than are actually there.

Doug,
I'm shocked, absolutely shocked that you would imply that the network previews are deceptive. Don't you know that they are 100% accurate? :p

Geez, I'm surprised that they didn't tumble to Connor O'Farrell immediately. After all, when was the last time he played a good guy?

[Rob Helmerichs]

Rob, I can't wait until next week, when you start the new thread.

Greg
No, sorry, I actually meant it. This show has been on the very edge for me all season, and this cheap, stupid trick of giving us a cliffhanger and then not resolving it has pushed it over the edge.

It would have to be a much better show than this to get away with that. Like Jericho.

Yes, that's right, Jericho, one of the most mediocre shows ever, is much better than Prison Break has become. So although I am usually loyal far beyond reason when it comes to watching shows, this one has finally pushed me away.

[dswallow]

You mean like Lost?
Not at all. There's a difference between trying to imply something based upon the existence or lack of a single word versus believing an outright lie.

[bqmeister]

I was thinking after the first two minutes that the writers don't know yet what's on the tape.

They have an idea. It contains stedman talking. But that's all they know (or knew) when they did this episode.

[reh523]

It would have to be a much better show than this to get away with that. Like Jericho.

Yes, that's right, Jericho, one of the most mediocre shows ever, is much better than Prison Break has become.
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Umm I don't think so. I would say PB has a much better chance of coming back than Jericho......

[ElJay]

I was getting a little annoyed at how everybody was calling a MP3 file stored on a USB flash drive a "tape." I could see it referred to as a tape a couple of times, but then it went overboard. Couldn't they call it a recording?

I'm hoping that this show will wrap everything up in the next four episodes, especially with all of the other escapees dying off left and right and Paul Kellerman evidently ready to follow Lee Harvey Oswald.

[Rob Helmerichs]

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Umm I don't think so. I would say PB has a much better chance of coming back than Jericho......
I wasn't talking about chances of renewal. I was talking about quality. And to me, Jericho, mediocre as it is, has better writing than Prison Break.

[dswallow]

I was getting a little annoyed at how everybody was calling a MP3 file stored on a USB flash drive a "tape." I could see it referred to as a tape a couple of times, but then it went overboard. Couldn't they call it a recording?
Speaking of which... it's a digital recording; you can make a copy of it. Idiots. They kept treating it like they were risking the loss of their only hope. For that matter, you can adjust the timestamps as you please, too. :)

[crowfan]

What bothered me most about this episode was not the "audience not hearing the recording" thing. It was the fact that Mahone had Franklin kill himself (or at least try to) before they actually had Scofield in hand. Knowing how slippery Scofield is, you would think he would have at least waited until they actually caught him before offing your only other connection to him.

Not that having Scofield in custody actually means much, because he has a penchant for escaping. :) But at least I could have understood that.

[milo99]

Speaking of which... it's a digital recording; you can make a copy of it. Idiots. They kept treating it like they were risking the loss of their only hope. For that matter, you can adjust the timestamps as you please, too. :)


oh i know! i was thinking the exact same thing!

on another note- ok, did anybody else catch the guy say "ok i just put my $2,000 Zegna suit jacket in the trash"? Except, he freagin' pronounces it Zeg-na instead of 'Zenya' ... i mean really, if the writers are making a point of mentioning the name, you'd think they'd correct the idiot for mispronouncing it. Sheesh. :p

[tivoboyjr]

I still love this show and hope it comes back for at least another season. It's hokey, but it's well-done hokiness. I don't really care what they do, just bring the bros and Sarah back for another adventure. Maybe they go to Thailand to search for T-Bag and the cash. Maybe they continue trying to bring down the company. Maybe they become government mercenaries like Jack Bauer. Maybe they get thrown back in prison and have to break out again. Something. PB is easily one of the five best shows on TV. I don't want it to go away.

[allan]

What bothered me most about this episode was not the "audience not hearing the recording" thing. It was the fact that Mahone had Franklin kill himself (or at least try to) before they actually had Scofield in hand. Knowing how slippery Scofield is, you would think he would have at least waited until they actually caught him before offing your only other connection to him.

Not that having Scofield in custody actually means much, because he has a penchant for escaping. :) But at least I could have understood that.

It was stupid, but it wasn't Mahone's call. Bill Kim ordered it, and stupid or not, at least he's consistant. He ALWAYS wants to kill.

Currently, I still enjoy this show, but my biggest fear, which the recording cliffhanger highlighted, is that they will drag it out to or beyond the "shark-jumping" point, and them cancel it without an ending.

[gchance]

You know what's funny? A few weeks ago people were asking, "Where's LJ"? Then last week, people were asking, "What happened to the money, anyway?"

I find it annoying, too, that they keep calling it a tape. However, that's how people are. How many times have people who don't have a Tivo or your significant other asks you, "Can you tape that for me" or "I need to set the tivo to tape it for me"? This is constant in my household.

My beef is with the timestamp. I could understand the recording being inadmissable in court due to a problem, but... a timestamp? Analog recordings are admitted to the court all the time, and they don't have timestamps. This shouldn't be any different.

Greg

[newsposter]

Not that having Scofield in custody actually means much, because he has a penchant for escaping. :) But at least I could have understood that.

but doesnt mahone now know the site and could fake being cnote now?

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in the plane, wouldn't one of them have to seen the other while boarding? I thought 1st class boarded first? Just seems I cant figure out how they wouldn't have seen each other unless they put coach on first then tbag went to first

[DevdogAZ]

in the plane, wouldn't one of them have to seen the other while boarding? I thought 1st class boarded first? Just seems I cant figure out how they wouldn't have seen each other unless they put coach on first then tbag went to first
Excapt that "Dr. Stammel" was probably wearing his glasses at the time Bellick passed by and of course you can't tell who he is when he put's on the glasses. ;)

As for faking C-Note on the site, yes, Mahone can do that, but you must have missed the conversation when C-Note said that Schofield was too smart to be lured into a trap unless he sees the person he trusts, which was why they were going to have to set up a meet with C-Note and Michael.

[crowfan]

Yeah. I mean, I guess Kim ordered it, but it's still stupid.

[MikeMar]

See ya' :D

Seriously, at the beginning of the previews for next week (this is not a spoiler), they said "4 episodes left". This season? Ever? This month? Till we get frustrated & leave?

This show has been fun, but they need to bring it to a close. If ever a show called for a finite number of episodes, PB is it.

Oh, and "Dr. Stannel" in the front of the plane with <forgot guard's name>. What are the odds? And where are they both going? Do all planes to Thailand go thru Mexico City or Ixtapa?

They are both going to Chicago.

T-Bag's flight (the first one out) had a stopover in Chicago first, the ticket agent said it :D

[DancnDude]

They are both going to Chicago.

T-Bag's flight (the first one out) had a stopover in Chicago first, the ticket agent said it :D
No I think Bellick was already in Chicago (he was meeting with that other agent). T-Bag must have changed planes in Chicago and have another layover in Mexico (presumably where Bellick is going) before onto Taiwan.

[ping]

I've been on planes where you board through a door such that first class is to the left and coach is to the right. No mingling during boarding.

[DevdogAZ]

No I think Bellick was already in Chicago (he was meeting with that other agent). T-Bag must have changed planes in Chicago and have another layover in Mexico (presumably where Bellick is going) before onto Taiwan.
Exactly. The ticket agent in Alabama told T-Bag that the flight went to Chicago and then had "another international stopover" before arriving in Thailand. That wording was chosen so as not to give away too early that it was going to Mexico.

[scottykempf]

Note to Michael and Linc: When meeting with someone you don't know (and who has a high profile government job), look up their picture somewhere so you know what they look like.

T-Bag: Since when do airlines go by weight when allowing carryons? I know that they usually say 50 lbs. or such, but usually they allow one or two carry-on bags of a certain size. Why would T-Bag ever let that bag of cash out of his sight? Why not go buy another bag and split the cash, and carry on board two smaller bags?

[dswallow]

Note to Michael and Linc: When meeting with someone you don't know (and who has a high profile government job), look up their picture somewhere so you know what they look like.

T-Bag: Since when do airlines go by weight when allowing carryons? I know that they usually say 50 lbs. or such, but usually they allow one or two carry-on bags of a certain size. Why would T-Bag ever let that bag of cash out of his sight? Why not go buy another bag and split the cash, and carry on board two smaller bags?
And...

a) Money fell out when he put it down; he might want to better secure it. It's ripe for behind-the-scenes theft if it falls open, and that'll probably be where T-Bag goes next... the baggage handlers.

b) One should always ensure the baggage tag was placed on the luggage; it really looked like they skipped that step. That bag would then be inspected to figure out who owned it... and guess what they'll see.

c) He should've gotten out of line and bought a carry-on and transferred at least some of the money to it.

d) He'd be better off FedEx-ing the money to himself than letting an airline carry it as checked baggage. :)

[newsposter]

d) He'd be better off FedEx-ing the money to himself than letting an airline carry it as checked baggage. :)

yea right... Sir, would you like the package insured for more than the $100 free standard insurance. That would be a hilarious storyline though. Watching him put in a claim for 7 figures.

[astrohip]

a) Money fell out when he put it down; he might want to better secure it. It's ripe for behind-the-scenes theft if it falls open, and that'll probably be where T-Bag goes next... the baggage handlers.
Yeah, that scene really had me choking. You mean NO ONE around him (except us) saw that bag fall open, and bundles of money fall out. And then he just hands it to the baggage guy, without even securing it better. Like when he gets to the airport in Mexico, it will be handled with care. :confused:

[tivoboyjr]

He should've gotten out of line and bought a carry-on and transferred at least some of the money to it.

Yeah, he should have tried to carry on as much as possible, and spent a little of the money on a really good, locking, hard-sided suitcase if he was going to try to check any of it. And make sure to fill out the ID tag.

[Joeg180]

All checked bags must remain unlocked. Oh wait that is real life, not Prison Break.

[joemamafresh]

i completely agree! i love the show too! i LOVE sarah! i can can never remember her name, for some reason...it's kind of a pretty name, i think...well, i just wanted to post that i agree with you and totally love the show! we people need to stick together when so many people love to bash the heck out it lately... I still love this show and hope it comes back for at least another season. It's hokey, but it's well-done hokiness. I don't really care what they do, just bring the bros and Sarah back for another adventure. Maybe they go to Thailand to search for T-Bag and the cash. Maybe they continue trying to bring down the company. Maybe they become government mercenaries like Jack Bauer. Maybe they get thrown back in prison and have to break out again. Something. PB is easily one of the five best shows on TV. I don't want it to go away.

[KRS]

Besides the backpack thing, T-Bag also should have bought a roundtrip ticket. He was using the shrink's credit card anyway, so why draw extra attention to yourself by getting a one way long haul ticket?

[Archangel00]

My beef is with the timestamp. I could understand the recording being inadmissable in court due to a problem, but... a timestamp? Analog recordings are admitted to the court all the time, and they don't have timestamps. This shouldn't be any different.

Greg

IIRC it wasn't a so much a question of it being admissable or not. It was a matter of it not being very helpful to their cause with no way of verifying the date recording was made.

BUT........that should be fairly obvious anyway since the recording was on what appeared to me to be a Cruzer usb flash drive in the first place. Not very likely, IMO, the original conversation was recorded directly to the flash drive at the time it took place.

[drew2k]

There are 4 episodes left, and the boys and Sara are pinning all their hopes on blackmailing the president into granting them a pardon, but what's-his-name has revenge in mind and wants to take her out. How ironic.

[Steveknj]

While I really like the show, and this season has been a pleasent surprise, I too think it's time to end it. There's only so much stretching of the plot they can do at this point. I would like to see Bellick get T-Bag next episode, Sucre somehow escape to a perminant life in Mexico and then the last three episodes focus on the truth coming out.

Now, a question for you legal minds. Even if it's proven that Linc is innocent, what about all the crimes they've commited to prove that? Won't they wind up back in jail anyway?

[dswallow]

Now, a question for you legal minds. Even if it's proven that Linc is innocent, what about all the crimes they've commited to prove that? Won't they wind up back in jail anyway?
Considering the extent of the government conspiracy they'll eventually reveal, I think they'll get a deal covering anything and everything they did.

[JLucPicard]

Considering the extent of the government conspiracy they'll eventually reveal, I think they'll get a deal covering anything and everything they did.
Plus they're bucking for a Presidential pardon anyway, which would also cover all of that (whichever president they actually can get one from! :)).

[allan]

Of course, if that fails, we still have the 3rd season for another escape. :D