Copywrite Protected?

[ddix]

I just bought new LG DVD recorder to record movies off of my Hr10 and when I try to record it says copywrite protected can not record. Is this for real?

[cheer]

I just bought new LG DVD recorder to record movies off of my Hr10 and when I try to record it says copywrite protected can not record. Is this for real?
Could be. How are you connecting the DVD recorder to the HR10-250? What process are you using?

[ddix]

Just using analog cables out of hr10 into the dvd recorder.

[cheer]

And the DVD recorder is saying the video is copyright and therefore cannot be recorded? Not sure how it would detect that from an analog signal.

[ddix]

Well it does. Have since found many websites talking about the same issue with the new LG DVD recorders

[extension 721]

welcome to the new media!

HDMI's even pickier about copyright protection...that's the (real) reason it is so vaunted.

[cheer]

welcome to the new media!

HDMI's even pickier about copyright protection...that's the (real) reason it is so vaunted.
Yeah but this is analog, which is why it's so weird. I mean...how does it know?

I'm not disputing that it's happening; I'm just amazed. Trade the LG in -- my cheap no-name DVD recorder doesn't exhibit this behavior... :)

[ClemSole]

Newer equipment like DVD recorders and VCR's are smarter than they were years ago. I have two VCR's and one DVD recorder that gives me the same message, my older unites will record the same progeams with out any problems. You have a smarter unit. It will not record some programs that have copyright protection in the signal.

[SpankyInChicago]

Yeah but this is analog, which is why it's so weird. I mean...how does it know?


Probably Macrovision. It has been around for 20 years.

[cheer]

Probably Macrovision. It has been around for 20 years.
I've certainly seen that, but that generally just results in an unwatchable image, not a refusal to record. But as ClemSole says, I guess they're just smarter now.

Though, to be honest, I had no idea the HR10-250 output Macrovision.

[STL]

My 7+ year old Sony Digital8 video camera promptly stops recording when it detects Macrovision (when recording from the analog inputs). It also pops a message up on the screen that says something about copyrighted material.

[Leila]

"copywrite" !!!???

if you can't spell that correct, perhaps you should show us your greencard? :)

oh... wait... just noticed that you said "LG" !!!??? anybody who buys LG stuff
shoud be excused... :)


Thanks!

[aaronwt]

It will do the same thing from a videotape because of the macrovision protection. although I haven't had any problems recording from my Hr10-250 boxes into a Phillips burner for the last 2.5 years. Every recording has been fine. But I haven't used it in a month with the HR10-250.

[Richard Chalk]

"copywrite" !!!???

if you can't spell that correct, perhaps you should show us your greencard? :)

oh... wait... just noticed that you said "LG" !!!??? anybody who buys LG stuff
shoud be excused... :)


Thanks!

If this is the most constructive comment you can post, then why not just pass. You contribute nothing to the subject-at-hand, and may irritate the writer, who just might not use English as a first language.

And by the way, you should have written "correctly"

Richard

[Church AV Guy]

And by the way, you should have written "correctly"
Richard
You beat me to it. Oh, and you forgot the period at the end of that sentence. :D

The analog world has many content protection schemes in place, and most modern equipment, like DVD recorders, are constrained to comply with those protection schemes. Some are buried in the vertical blanking interval, some are in other various scan lines in the analog stream. Macrovision might be the oldest, but it is most certainly not alone, and it is not the most severe. A few devices might get fooled into thinking that the signal they are processing has protection when it does not. I guess the manufacturer decided to err on the side of caution. It is unlikely that you can change these overly sensitive machines, so replacement is the best solution.

[Richard Chalk]

You beat me to it. Oh, and you forgot the period at the end of that sentence. :D

The analog world has many content protection schemes in place, and most modern equipment, like DVD recorders, are constrained to comply with those protection schemes. Some are buried in the vertical blanking interval, some are in other various scan lines in the analog stream. Macrovision might be the oldest, but it is most certainly not alone, and it is not the most severe. A few devices might get fooled into thinking that the signal they are processing has protection when it does not. I guess the manufacturer decided to err on the side of caution. It is unlikely that you can change these overly sensitive machines, so replacement is the best solution.

Actually, I didn't even construct a complete sentence, since I began with "And".

There is a device made by Sima which is a sync processor, which will "repair" the "defective" sync output from many devices such as DVD Players and VCRs when playing back commercial recordings. I have used one successfully to copy old VHS tapes to DVDs for my Grandkids. It is Model CT-2, and it has S-Video connections, and should handle the problem described at the beginning of this thread. I think mine cost about $60, but it has been discontinued by Sima. Try eBay...

[desulliv]

"copywrite" !!!???

if you can't spell that correct, perhaps you should show us your greencard? :)

oh... wait... just noticed that you said "LG" !!!??? anybody who buys LG stuff
shoud be excused... :)


Thanks!
Speaking of spelling, how should "shoud" be spelled?

[fasTLane]

Can I join the speling contst?

[WadeSc]

This is a well-known issue with the LG recorders. Check out the DVD recorder section of AVS Forum. I have a Samsung DVD-R135 and it records fine off my HR10-250 set to output 480i through S video.

[Chris Gerhard]

As far as I know, DirecTV has never used analog copy protection with the receivers and signals. I have always been able to record from composite, S-Video and component.

Chris

[taj2]

Prior to buying my DVD recorder I did a bunch of research at AVS and other places. I bought a Panasonic because everyone mentioned they had no problems recording from the Tivo/DirecTV Tivo. I have had zero problems and have probably recorded 75 movies from all the movie channels and PPV. In fact I am recording Cars for my daughter this morning with no problems.

Great thing is the Panasonic was one of the cheaper recorders on the market.

[Squonk]

what channel were you trying to record? HBO? a PPV movie? that info might help

[aaronwt]

You can also get an inexpensive burner from Walmart. They have a stand alone DVD burner for $78 and a stand alone DVD burner/VCR for $98. They work perfectly and you can't beat the price. The only advantage my Phillips burners had was they recorded everything in DD 2.0. Most DVD burners record in stereo pcm.

[newsposter]

i've recorded many premium, and even HD ppv on my panny E80 and never gotten a warning. Maybe my machine likes me?:)

[HTH]

"copywrite" !!!???

if you can't spell that correct, perhaps you should show us your greencard? :)
Bad form. You should have accused the manufacturer of the device of not being able to spell instead. Then the poster could have taken it as a gentle correction offered in light jest.

And a smiley does not excuse such a personal attack.

[newsposter]

i've recorded many premium, and even HD ppv on my panny E80 and never gotten a warning. Maybe my machine likes me?:)

or doesnt

burned star wars 1 and 2 no problem. But as i was FFing thru 3 to get to the end and snip off the ending commercial, at 1:36 macrovision (or something) kicked in. Why would it only do that 1/2 way thru the movie?