D* Hd

[phatmatt]

Is there anyone who DOES NOT have D*-HD; and not pla on getting it for a while yet?

[John T Smith]

I have 4 DTivo units... 3 are SD only, one is the HR10-250 model... which I bought for the 200 hours of SD recording

But... I have a round dish for SD service and have NO plans to change to a different dish to receive an HD signal

My HR10-250 is in the theater room at a new house (moved in last November) and the viewing is through a Sony VPL-VW50 "Pearl" projector... with upconvert processor to multiplex an SD signal into "almost" HD screen resolution... so for me, the extra $$ for a different dish, and multiswitch, and monthly fee for relatively few non-PPV channels... is simply not worth the money

When I wired the house I did put 2 extra RG6 lines from the dish location to my switching panel, in case I ever do decide to go HD... but I really doubt that will ever happen, since the theater room projector does an EXCELLENT job of "upconverting" the signal that is then shown on the 93" screen, and the 57" rear projection Hitachi 57F59 TV downstairs also has an upconvert processor (not quite as good as the Sony projector, but also about 1/5 the price so I expect the Sony to do a better job)

Bottom line... HD is not cost effective for me

[ttodd1]

Is there anyone who DOES NOT have D*-HD; and not pla on getting it for a while yet?


Why?

[phatmatt]

Why?


Was just curious. I feel likeI am the only one with HD? I have an HD ready TV, but not HD.

[John T Smith]

>the only one with HD?

Do you mean withOUT?

>have an HD ready TV

Check your TV manual... you MAY already have an "upconvert" processor that "sort of" converts an incoming SD signal to "almost" HD by time it shows on the screen

If your TVf has that, it SHOULD be automatic... but you may need to go into the menu for that TV to adjust settings

[Dkerr24]

I'm quite happy with my 2 standard def DTivo units. Have no plans in the next 2-3 years to go to HD.

Well, maybe if I can get a 1020p 46" LCD unit for around $400, I might be wooed over.

[Billy66]

You mean 1080p.

Watch HD in your home for one day and SD will forever be garbage.

[beartrap]

You mean 1080p.

Watch HD in your home for one day and SD will forever be garbage.

Amen, brother.

[dtremain]

Watch HD in your home for one day and SD will forever be garbage.Happily that won't happen.

I'm with DKerr. Way too expensive at this time for far too little return.

It may look good, but it's tv.

[Billy66]

Pick your own price point, I surely don't want to push anyone, but I find it to be a very big jump. I don't think we're far away from a time when there is no additional entry cost for HD vs SD.

[Charlutz]

I have 4 DTivo units... 3 are SD only, one is the HR10-250 model... which I bought for the 200 hours of SD recording

But... I have a round dish for SD service and have NO plans to change to a different dish to receive an HD signal

My HR10-250 is in the theater room at a new house (moved in last November) and the viewing is through a Sony VPL-VW50 "Pearl" projector... with upconvert processor to multiplex an SD signal into "almost" HD screen resolution... so for me, the extra $$ for a different dish, and multiswitch, and monthly fee for relatively few non-PPV channels... is simply not worth the money

When I wired the house I did put 2 extra RG6 lines from the dish location to my switching panel, in case I ever do decide to go HD... but I really doubt that will ever happen, since the theater room projector does an EXCELLENT job of "upconverting" the signal that is then shown on the 93" screen, and the 57" rear projection Hitachi 57F59 TV downstairs also has an upconvert processor (not quite as good as the Sony projector, but also about 1/5 the price so I expect the Sony to do a better job)

Bottom line... HD is not cost effective for me

When you say it's not cost effective for you, do you realize the cost is about 6 bucks? That's about what it would cost to buy a set of rabbit ears to pick up the HD signals from all of the networks in your area. Maybe $20 if you need an indoor directional, and maybe $40 if you need a bigger roof or attic mounted antenna. You spend $1000 on a projector, but can't spend a few bucks on an antenna? I can't imagine watching an SD signal on a projector when there were HD signals floating around my house just waiting for someone to hook up an antenna. An upconverted picture looks nothing like an HD picture. Nothing.

[Squonk]

Was just curious. I feel likeI am the only one with HD? I have an HD ready TV, but not HD.


Maybe because you are posting in the wrong forum. This is the standard Directivo forum. There is a whole other forum for HD Directivo. Maybe if you went there you wouldn't feel so lonely.

Then again, I am not sure where you would go for people who have HD Tvs but don't bother picking up some rabbit ears to enjoy OTA HDTV at the very least. Maybe you should sell your TV on Ebay and look for a nice vintage black and white Philco, circa 1964.

[John T Smith]

When you say it's not cost effective for you, do you realize the cost is about 6 bucks?

Cost of a new dish and a new multiswitch is a lot more than $6 - plus the monthly fee increase - so, as I said... not cost effective for me

You spend $1000 on a projector

Grin... you need to do some more research... the Sony VPL-VW50 is $5,000

You do things your way... I'll use my equipment my way

[MikeMar]

Cost of a new dish and a new multiswitch is a lot more than $6 - plus the monthly fee increase - so, as I said... not cost effective for me



Grin... you need to do some more research... the Sony VPL-VW50 is $5,000

You do things your way... I'll use my equipment my way

wow

[Squonk]

Cost of a new dish and a new multiswitch is a lot more than $6 - plus the monthly fee increase - so, as I said... not cost effective for me



Grin... you need to do some more research... the Sony VPL-VW50 is $5,000

You do things your way... I'll use my equipment my way


You spent $5000 on a projector and you haven't added an antenna for Hidef? Wow. To each his own, but that is insane. I think you missed his point about the cheap cost of adding hidef. You can pull in OTA locals via a simple antenna. Maybe you didn't realize that. I have not yet added satellite hidef, but am enjoying full bore uncompressed 1080i and 720p hidef OTA which is not SD upoconverted. Once you see a true hidef signal on a good TV, you will never look back. Have you actually seen a nice true hidef feed on a good TV?

[Billy66]

wow
:eek: :eek: Double wow!

[MikeMar]

It's like paying a lot of money for a convertible sports car and never putting the top down or getting past 4th gear

PURE-WASTE-OF-MONEY :)

[dtremain]

Yeah, but without spending what, $400 bucks, on a hi-def DVR, you wouldn't be able to record anything. Not tenable for us TiVo folks, right?

[John T Smith]

You can pull in OTA locals via a simple antenna. Maybe you didn't realize that
I completely know that an antenna pulls in the local signals... IF you are in an area where an antenna works well, or at all... and if there are any HD locals that are interesting

What YOU don't seem to realize, or to care to ask about, is that I made my choices based on my location and what is available... or what works WELL for me

I get local channels, without snow or the other crap I would get from an antenna, from a DirecTv spot beam satellite

I bought the HR10-250 to have the "up to" 200 hours of SD recording, since I don't do Linux and was not in the market, while building a house, to also figure out how to put a large hard disk in a smaller DTivo (which I would have had to buy used anyway... the HR10-250 I bought was new in a sealed box)

I bought a 24" dish to reduce the (already small) number of times each year I have signal problems due to rain or snow (I've been with DirecTv for about a dozen years)

I wired myself... with QUAD shield RG6 instead of the more common dual shield, to be sure of fewer potential signal interference problems... and so I could put the cable EXACTLY where I wanted

I bought a Spaun 2x12 multiswitch to run 2 lines to each of 6 locations... even though I don't currently use all of the locations

I know what I am doing... and don't much CARE what anyone else does... and responded to the OP simply to say that for ME it is not cost effective to buy HD programming at this time... but I also said I planned for some future event (which may or may not ever come) by pre-wiring from dish location to control panel with 4 coax lines instead of just the 2 now in use

For me... end of discussion

For anyone else... buy and use what YOU want, based on where YOU live and what is available to YOU

[Squonk]

I completely know that an antenna pulls in the local signals... IF you are in an area where an antenna works well, or at all... and if there are any HD locals that are interesting

What YOU don't seem to realize, or to care to ask about, is that I made my choices based on my location and what is available... or what works WELL for me

I get local channels, without snow or the other crap I would get from an antenna, from a DirecTv spot beam satellite

I bought the HR10-250 to have the "up to" 200 hours of SD recording, since I don't do Linux and was not in the market, while building a house, to also figure out how to put a large hard disk in a smaller DTivo (which I would have had to buy used anyway... the HR10-250 I bought was new in a sealed box)

I bought a 24" dish to reduce the (already small) number of times each year I have signal problems due to rain or snow (I've been with DirecTv for about a dozen years)

I wired myself... with QUAD shield RG6 instead of the more common dual shield, to be sure of fewer potential signal interference problems... and so I could put the cable EXACTLY where I wanted

I bought a Spaun 2x12 multiswitch to run 2 lines to each of 6 locations... even though I don't currently use all of the locations

I know what I am doing... and don't much CARE what anyone else does... and responded to the OP simply to say that for ME it is not cost effective to buy HD programming at this time... but I also said I planned for some future event (which may or may not ever come) by pre-wiring from dish location to control panel with 4 coax lines instead of just the 2 now in use

For me... end of discussion

For anyone else... buy and use what YOU want, based on where YOU live and what is available to YOU

Wow, you seem awfully defensive about all of this. Sure you can do whatever you want. I think what myself and the other posters above are expressing is incredulity that someone who has spent that amount of time and money, and obvious planning and caring about a AV system, would seemingly dismiss HD out of hand so easily. You still never really answered the $6 question---have you actually simply tried hooking up an antenna to see what HD signals you pull in and how they look? Adding a few OTA HD channels won't negate your other SD capabilities--its almost as if you think its one or the other. You already have the HR10-250 so you also have the capability of recording HD OTA already.

If you live at the bottom of a mountain in Nepal and can't get OTA HD, just say so. But we were simply saying how easy adding a 10 to 40 buck antenna would supplement what appears to be a $8000-10,000 SD system you already have. And there aren't too many people around who would shell out for a HR10-250 and then not use it at all for what it was made for--Hidef. You could add the basic HD Directv package for peanuts compared to what you already have spent.

I'll go one better than the other poster with the analogy--its almost like buying a Maserati and instead of driving it, you are pushing it everywhere you go.

Have fun.

[Squonk]

Yeah, but without spending what, $400 bucks, on a hi-def DVR, you wouldn't be able to record anything. Not tenable for us TiVo folks, right?


He's already got an HD DVR, and he's using it for SD only. That's what makes it all the more incredible.

[vonsen]

I've got no plans to go HD for the forseeable future. Sure HD is nice, but consider that most of the channels that I normally watch are not offered in HD. And the few times that I have watched HD on someone else's D* system it's just been some cut-rate HD-lite abberation anyway. So what's the point? Less than 2 dozen HD stations? Most of which I wouldn't watch no matter what resolution they air in.

Talk to me again when most of the channels can be had in HD - then I'll bite. I would have signed up to Voom if they hadn't folded. That was a worthwhile HD lineup. But the current D* lineup just isn't worth the cost of new Tivo's & an extra $11/month. YMMV

[rminsk]

I get local channels, without snow or the other crap I would get from an antenna, from a DirecTv spot beam satelliteATSC is a digital signal and you would not have any "snow or crap". You would most likely have a better picture OTA than you would from DirecTV. You maybe able to get most the major networks and a PBS in HD from Portland.

[Charlutz]

Cost of a new dish and a new multiswitch is a lot more than $6 - plus the monthly fee increase - so, as I said... not cost effective for me



Grin... you need to do some more research... the Sony VPL-VW50 is $5,000

You do things your way... I'll use my equipment my way

i punched in one zip code for vancouver and found all the networks withing 8 miles. Depending where you are in town, you really may be 6 bucks away from hd. Heck, a bent coat hanger could work. So 5k on a projector and you can't make a one time purchase of an antenna?

BTW, directv will pay for your dish, install and multiswitch usually when you commit to another 2 years. And you still don't have to get their monthly hd pack. Your cost effective argument makes no sense in any universe.