Want to play nearly ANY video file on your TiVo?

[windracer]

I am thinking of using an old athon 1500 computer i have sitting in the garage. It would only be a tivo.net server.
I have TiVoMono running on my Linux "server" which is a Toshiba Satellite laptop with a 1Ghz Celeron CPU with only 256mb of RAM. My video files are on a Buffalo Linkstation which the Linux box accesses via a samba share.

I can't quite do realtime transfers, but it works!

[cmtk05]

How long do you have to let it buffer before you can watch it? What quality setting do you have it on?

[johncherbini]

How long do you have to let it buffer before you can watch it? What quality setting do you have it on?

If I let it go 5 mins for an hour long show, I rarely have any buffer issues.

ffmpeg is set to do a VBR, so it winds up being a little over 4000kb/s.

Not exactly HD, but it looks good.

JC

[cmtk05]

hmm, how do you set ffmpeg to vbr? I thought it was low medium and so on in the admin screen

[huma]

Same issue as others with it not saving the video onto Tivo as well on 0.9.7. Reverted back to 0.9.1 and works beautifully.

[kenrippy]

Ok....so, we've previously talked about disappearing transfers.

The latest 0.9.7 version is definitely better! I can now transfer and keep files that are about 500MB, but when I step up to an 800+ MB file, it disappears after the transfer. Just a heads up! Can anyone else transfer and keep an 800MB+ file?

I've tried the fudge setting up to 4 to no avail.

Thanks!

JC
this new version isn't saving any size video on my tivos. the last one i tried was only about 144mb. i haven't tried any older versions yet, but someone just mentioned 0.9.1a working so i'll give that a try.

btw, we are using two standard series2 tivo's on the network.

EDIT: yes the 0.9.1a version is working great keeping all transfers now. but i haven't tried anything over 800mb yet, so let us know if that works for you.

[Stu_Bee]

Yes .9.1.a is the most recent release that provides stable results in proper file transferring.
The only downside to it is that it way overestimates the file size during transfer...so your number of Tivo'd suggestions will drop (if you have suggestions on) during the transfer.
Not a big deal as long as your Tivo isn't filled to the rim with non-suggestion recorded shows. After the file is transferred, Tivo knows the real size of the file, and new suggestions will be recorded again.
Hope that made sense.

[kenrippy]

Yes .9.1.a is the most recent release that provides stable results in proper file transferring.
The only downside to it is that it way overestimates the file size during transfer...so your number of Tivo'd suggestions will drop (if you have suggestions on) during the transfer.
Not a big deal as long as your Tivo isn't filled to the rim with non-suggestion recorded shows. After the file is transferred, Tivo knows the real size of the file, and new suggestions will be recorded again.
Hope that made sense.

makes sense to me, thanks for the confirmation & info. i'll keep using 0.9.1a until we see a new revision that works better.

[MichaelK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ME2
Does Tivo.Net allow me to send shows from my tivo to my pc, via Tivo?




TiVoPlayList (http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/c/dcahoe/tivo/index.htm) will also transfer from TiVo to PC, and is slightly faster than DeskTop. However I think ME2 wants something that is controlled at the TiVo interface (TV and peanut control) rather than the PC interface. Galleon is the only one I know of that claims to do that (don't have it myself).


yes- galleon does just that.

I use a mix of galleon, tivo.net, and tivo desktop to do differnt things.

[dlfl]

...... Can anyone else transfer and keep an 800MB+ file?
........

If you're talking about the Windows version, yes. See this post (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4896702&&#post4896702). The DivX file was 1.5 GB and became a 3.7 GB mpeg on the Tivo. Using 0.9.7a and sizeFudge = 1.0.

Suggestion:Am I the only one having trouble keeping track of who uses Linux or Windows versions on this thread? Since the versions seem to have a different set of problems it would help if posters would indicate their OS in each post.

[coco banderos]

When running TivoMono 0.9.7a with the --noterminal flag, the call to ffmepg looks like:

"/usr/bin/ffmpeg -v quiet-i "/home/apps/tivomono/Videos/Movie.avi" -vcodec mpeg2video -r 29.97 -b 3072k -aspect 4:3 -s 720x344 -padtop 68 -padbottom 68 -acodec mp2 -ac 2 -ab 128 -f vob -"

Notice the "quiet-i". There's a space missing between "quiet" and "-i". This either causes the file to be overwritten or no transcoding at all.

This doesn't occur without the --noterminal flag (in other words, everything is fine without --noterminal)


Thanks

[windracer]

Good catch ... that explains why "quiet" isn't working! I didn't think to check the verbose log.

[A@ron]

well since I cannot get my hands at 0.9.7 src to edit it to work on mine and other Macs here is my edited 0.9.5a with the TivoMono Preference Pane. It will allow you to start and stop the service and view some of the xml options. Saving any edits done to the xml settings is not supported yet and hence why the save button is non-clickable ;)

Read the readme!

http://homepage.mac.com/bedelman/tivonetpref.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/17991501/TiVoMonoMac_Pref.zip.html

[jmcdermott]

I have a series 2 Humax with built a built in DVD recorder. I am wondering what settings I can use with FFMPEG to allow the movies transcoded with tivonet to be written to DVD using the DVD recorder built into the tivo.
Thanks.

[dumbdiety]

Just a thought...since TiVo Desktop sees the IP addys of the various TiVos on the network, is there a way TiVo.Net can see those IPs, and then we can assign different aspect ratios to an IP? I've got one TiVo on a 4:3 and another on a 16:9, and this would solve all sorts of problems....

[Fofer]

well since I cannot get my hands at 0.9.7 src to edit it to work on mine and other Macs here is my edited 0.9.5a with the TivoMono Preference Pane.

Hot dang, that looks sweet. Makes me want to go back to a S2 :p (as I'm currently with a S3.) Holding on to hope that us S3 owners get some MRV love soon and that we can start using some of this video transfer/transcoding goodness! Kudos for the great work, A@ron!

[CuriousMark]

I have a series 2 Humax with built a built in DVD recorder. I am wondering what settings I can use with FFMPEG to allow the movies transcoded with tivonet to be written to DVD using the DVD recorder built into the tivo.
Thanks.
None, the only thing the DVD burner TiVo will burn is stuff it recorded originally off the air (or cable or sat, etc).

[kcarsten]

None, the only thing the DVD burner TiVo will burn is stuff it recorded originally off the air (or cable or sat, etc).

Actually I've transferred VHS to my DRT800 and subsequently burned to DVD... has been a slick way to save some of my (favorite) legacy videos.

[CuriousMark]

True, VHS counts as etc in my list. The things it won't record are things with copy protection flags and things that were transferred in digitally rather than recorded from either the front or rear video inputs. I suspect that it only trusts things that it encoded itself.

[Taps]

Suggestion:Am I the only one having trouble keeping track of who uses Linux or Windows versions on this thread? Since the versions seem to have a different set of problems it would help if posters would indicate their OS in each post.

I have actually thought of seeing if more people would stop using this one thread and start using the forums on the application's web site.

There are separate forums for each app.

Tivo.Net (http://www.satellite-of-love.org/Forums/YaBB.pl?catselect=tivodotnet)

and TivoMono (http://www.satellite-of-love.org/Forums/YaBB.pl?catselect=tivomono)


Its much easier to keep track there....

[rahamim]

I am using 0.95a for windows and it is working great. Since I am using it to view many home videos on Tivo, I'd like to get them all into the same folder in my "Now Playing" list. I have tried everything in the File Manager but can't get it to work. Is this even possible? Any hints?

Thanks,
Guy

[windracer]

The TiVo will only group shows based on Guide Data ... since there's no data for non-.tivo files, they won't group when you transfer them back to the TiVo.

[CheezWiz]

Anyone else try 0.9.7a-Fixed yet?
I get a corrupt cabinet file error on installation..

[Jazhuis]

Ditto. Took me an hour and three different machines before I decided to try an older version (which worked).

[ourdoc]

Ok....so, we've previously talked about disappearing transfers.

The latest 0.9.7 version is definitely better! I can now transfer and keep files that are about 500MB, but when I step up to an 800+ MB file, it disappears after the transfer. Just a heads up! Can anyone else transfer and keep an 800MB+ file?

I've tried the fudge setting up to 4 to no avail.

Thanks!

JC

I have successfully transferred a file over 800 mb and it stayed on the TiVo. But in order to do it successfully, I had to watch it (although slightly delayed) to the end so it continued and came to the do you want to delete this now question. The main problem I am having is the TiVo’s will see my computer for only about 5 minutes, then it will disappear from now playing until I submit/rescan directory then it reappears for a few minutes, and goes again. It does keep transferring the file most of the time, but if not watching it, it hits the end and poofs… Oh and this is using Vista :)

[Mhyrllin]

Anyone else try 0.9.7a-Fixed yet?
I get a corrupt cabinet file error on installation..

Ditto Pipakin.. Me THREE! Please fix! I'm lost without my tivodotnet.

[Enrique]

help Tivo.net no longer shows up in my now playing list.

[Stu_Bee]

help Tivo.net no longer shows up in my now playing list.

What version Tivo.net are you running?
Does this link work (ie display something) for you:
http://localhost:9032/TiVoConnect?Command=QueryContainer&Container=Video

[Enrique]

What version Tivo.net are you running?
Does this link work (ie display something) for you:
http://localhost:9032/TiVoConnect?Command=QueryContainer&Container=Video
0.9.1a and all I see is a blank screen.

[hyachts]

I don't immediately recall with what version, but pipakin changed the default setting to not run on windows startup, so you have to go to the program menu and "start service" to get it running.

[ourdoc]

I notice it disappears from NP after a few minutes and wont re-appear until I hit rescan, then it pops back up for a few minutes. This is in both 9.1a and 9.7a on Vista

[greg_burns]

I don't immediately recall with what version, but pipakin changed the default setting to not run on windows startup, so you have to go to the program menu and "start service" to get it running.

Is it still that way? I thought I recalled it starting automatically again last time I upgraded.

[hyachts]

Is it still that way? I thought I recalled it starting automatically again last time I upgraded.

Could be... I forget what version I'm running right at the moment. I'll check when I get home. It's not the latest, of that I'm certain... can't remember if it's 9.1 or 9.5?

[KRKeegan]

Anyone see the new TiVoDesktop 2.4. It supports web->pc->TiVo of WMV files. Of course I assume this is transcoding.

But Pipakin if TiVo can do this successfully we need to figure outs how it works in regards to the file size problem. But I dont feel like coughing up the $24.95 for TiVoDesktop Pro.

Kevin

[Renesis]

Ive read this whole thread and have been playing around with Tivodotn3t for a day or two now and have had some success. I dont know if this has been mentioned before so if it has I appologize.

Part of the problem determining the file size seems to be the fault of ffmpeg. Theres no way to force ffmpeg to use a constant bitrate. I came across a post on another forum that mentioned the best you could do was to use the -bt option.

From the docs...
-bt tolerance
Set video bitrate tolerance (in bits).

Looking at the tivodotn3t source code shows your currently using -b. Calculating the file size might be more reliable using -bt. I havent had the video deletion problems others are experiencing so its kind of hard for me to test this.

[ciscokidinsf]

A@ron, if you are there, I installed the TivoPref in the preference panel but it keeps failing and closing the panel altogether. (I did copy pkill to the usr/bin directory) But the panel doesn't seem to work for me (I am on OSX 10.3) The first version DID work (but all it has was the path and the on/off button) the new pretty version fails for me.

ETA: Oh also, the app page refuses to load in the browser when using the preference panel. (It is working though) However, if I start it manually to terminal it looks OK. Weird.

[Enrique]

I don't immediately recall with what version, but pipakin changed the default setting to not run on windows startup, so you have to go to the program menu and "start service" to get it running.The service is 100% and i check my network and the tivo can see it(as I can hear music from my computer) I have many times hit rescan but nothing.

[ourdoc]

Anyone see the new TiVoDesktop 2.4. It supports web->pc->TiVo of WMV files. Of course I assume this is transcoding.

But Pipakin if TiVo can do this successfully we need to figure outs how it works in regards to the file size problem. But I dont feel like coughing up the $24.95 for TiVoDesktop Pro.

Kevin

Not to mention it isn't at this time supported by Vista, in fact they have the install for it blocked. I did install it on an XP pro computer and could not get the TiVo to see any video files at all, maybe thats why it's blocked for Vista :D

So with two computers in my house one XP pro and one Vista, and 4 TiVo's, as far as the ability to transfer anything video I can download and convert on my computer and watch on my TV via TiVo, it comes down to:

TiVo 0
Pipakin 2 :up:

[Enrique]

ok I got the tivo.net to show up on my now playing list but when I hit to transfer I get that it well transfer later(have restarted the tivo and tivo.net) I am getting this in the error log:
The specified network name is no longer available - at System.Net.HttpResponseStream.Dispose(Boolean disposing) at System.IO.Stream.Close() at System.IO.StreamWriter.Dispose(Boolean disposing) at System.IO.StreamWriter.Close() at TiVoDotNetBase.TivoDotNet.ParseVideoUrl(String url, HttpListenerContext con, ContainerItem ci) at TiVoDotNetBase.TivoDotNet.ContextCallback(IAsyncResult ar)

[A@ron]

A@ron, if you are there, I installed the TivoPref in the preference panel but it keeps failing and closing the panel altogether. (I did copy pkill to the usr/bin directory) But the panel doesn't seem to work for me (I am on OSX 10.3) The first version DID work (but all it has was the path and the on/off button) the new pretty version fails for me.

ETA: Oh also, the app page refuses to load in the browser when using the preference panel. (It is working though) However, if I start it manually to terminal it looks OK. Weird.

The pref pannel assumes that all the tivomono files are installed within the TivoMono folder at the root directory. Any other location at this time will not work. It is most likely crashing trying to find the xml on awakefromnib which is in a different location. Also it is 10.4 only since the NSXML framework is only available on 10.4 (time to upgrade?)

The applescript in there should work though for you to run it on boot up with no terminal window remaining open. Just make sure once again everything is at /TivoMono/ and then set a startup item to point to that applescript :)

[greg_burns]

ok I got the tivo.net to show up on my now playing list but when I hit to transfer I get that it well transfer later(have restarted the tivo and tivo.net) I am getting this in the error log:
The specified network name is no longer available - at System.Net.HttpResponseStream.Dispose(Boolean disposing) at System.IO.Stream.Close() at System.IO.StreamWriter.Dispose(Boolean disposing) at System.IO.StreamWriter.Close() at TiVoDotNetBase.TivoDotNet.ParseVideoUrl(String url, HttpListenerContext con, ContainerItem ci) at TiVoDotNetBase.TivoDotNet.ContextCallback(IAsyncResult ar)

Yeah, I was having same problem last week (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4892622&&#post4892622) on my 240 but not my 540.

Haven't changed a thing and now the 240 is working this morning with same video. Has to be a space issue on my Tivo.

Forgot to look what my RD folder and Suggestions were at before starting the transfer, but both are currently empty. This box is completely full. Not sure I understand why it working today. :confused:

Running 0.9.7a.

[rainwater]

Anyone else try 0.9.7a-Fixed yet?
I get a corrupt cabinet file error on installation..

I get that error on Vista.

[ciscokidinsf]

The pref panel assumes that all the tivomono files are installed within the TivoMono folder at the root directory. Any other location at this time will not work. It is most likely crashing trying to find the xml on awakefromnib which is in a different location. Also it is 10.4 only since the NSXML framework is only available on 10.4 (time to upgrade?)

The applescript in there should work though for you to run it on boot up with no terminal window remaining open. Just make sure once again everything is at /TivoMono/ and then set a startup item to point to that applescript

Will do. I'll test tonight. I'm also having some network issues with a wireless USB network storage adapter that is confusing the hell out of my network all the time.

I do have everything on the TivoMono directory at the root level. Bummer that I need 10.4 to make the 'pretty' work.

But, yes, My b'day is around the corner and I just might get the 24" Imac, I'll load it with paralells and XP, and run Pipakin's stuff both ways. Since I saved $500 by skipping a media server thanks to TivoDotNet, I can rationalize it that way. right? right? :)

[johncherbini]

Just a follow up to the disappearing large files issue that I've been having.

I got it to work! While the file is transferring, if I simply watch some of it, the transfer seems to stick.

I've got everything I need working on this now! There are a few little workarounds that I have to use, but that's not a problem for me!

Thanks Pipakin!

JC

[Stu_Bee]

Just a follow up to the disappearing large files issue that I've been having.
I got it to work! While the file is transferring, if I simply watch some of it, the transfer seems to stick.
I've got everything I need working on this now! There are a few little workarounds that I have to use, but that's not a problem for me!
Thanks Pipakin!
JC

Yes, people have reported success in that method. I tried it once and 3/4 of the way thru the 1hr program the program started from near the beginning again (ie. the transcoding continued, but the video displayed was from the beginning of the file). weird. I'm still sticking at 9.1a until Pipkins return.

[BoyScout]

I've been having problems with all my transfers causing my S2s to reboot. I can't run TTG or MRV let alone TDN.

[Stu_Bee]

I've been having problems with all my transfers causing my S2s to reboot. I can't run TTG or MRV let alone TDN.

You'll probably want to post this outside of this tivo.net thread since it seems to be a more general issue you are experiencing.
Include your
- Tivo Model(s) affected
- Tivo OS Version
- Transfer Method(s) you are doing when it occurs
- Any specific shows on your tivo, or all shows
- Tivo desktop software Version.
- Did it just start happening? Last successful transfer.

[BoyScout]

I thought I'd mention it here too since it happens with TDN transfers too. Just so people don't think it is TDN doing it.

[KRKeegan]

I special thanks to windracer for providing me with the following sample xml code from Desktop 2.4:


<Details>
<Title>Jeremy's Good Eats</Title>
<ContentType>video/x-tivo-mpeg</ContentType>
<SourceFormat>video/x-ms-wmv</SourceFormat>
<CopyProtected>No</CopyProtected>
<Duration>817798</Duration>
<SourceSize>275347456</SourceSize>
</Details>


The significant change is in the "x-ms-wmv" source format tag. Unfortunately adding this to my server didn't fix the transfer interrupted bug. Which leaves only two possibilities.
1. TiVo Desktop is able to accurately predict filesizes by using a constant bit rate.
or
2. TiVo Desktop has a graceful way of telling TiVo "Hey sorry I over estimated the file there is actually no more"

I am leaning towards option 1 as being the more likely candidate. The bummer is that this means there is no simple solution to our problem. As far as I can tell, (while it appears differently), there is no way to force ffmpeg to a constant bit rate which means our file sizes can never be exactly predicted.

pipakin if you want to chime in here feel free.

If I have some more free time I might cough up the $25 and do a closer inspection of Desktop 2.4 plus and maybe we can get lucky and find the answer.

[Stu_Bee]

2. TiVo Desktop has a graceful way of telling TiVo "Hey sorry I over estimated the file there is actually no more"

What problem do you have when Tivo.net OVERestimates the size?
I'm running tivo.net .91a, which constantly overestimates the size by a ton...but the file still transfers fine. It's the underestimating that causes non-transfer issues for me.

[dlfl]

............I'm running tivo.net .91a, which constantly overestimates the size by a ton...but the file still transfers fine. It's the underestimating that causes non-transfer issues for me.
What sizeFudge factor do you use, and is this the Windows version? (Can't remember if 0.91a has the sizeFudge factor.) Also, what range of file durations have you tested over?

[zpimpa]

Hey guys .. Tivo net appears in my Now Playing directory and I can view directories but the directories are empty. I'm getting the following error in the Tivo Net log files:

Error adding file E: \+Andrew\Videos\Movie_Name\EXT\LOT_X.VCD : Access is denied

Error adding file E: \+Andrew\Videos\Movie_Name\Movie.Name.XviD.avi : Access is denied

The files are on an external HD...any ideas? Thanks

[Stu_Bee]

What sizeFudge factor do you use, and is this the Windows version? (Can't remember if 0.91a has the sizeFudge factor.) Also, what range of file durations have you tested over?

- Yeah...91a doesn't use fudge Factor. Those came into play after .91a when pipkin was trying to be more precise with the filesize estimation. But since the new formula was sometimes underestimating... the fudge factor arose so you could overestimate again.
- I'm using Windows XPSP2.
- I transfer 20 minute, 50 minute, and 2hr vids usually. No problems transferring, other than when I turn on the microwave :) (it's a wireless bridge)

[KRKeegan]

What problem do you have when Tivo.net OVERestimates the size?
I'm running tivo.net .91a, which constantly overestimates the size by a ton...but the file still transfers fine. It's the underestimating that causes non-transfer issues for me.

Yeah I am aware that underestimating causes issues. However, many of us, but not all, have issues when the file size is over estimated too. This problem manifests itself as a transfer error when the TiVo reaches the end of the program. Also if I do not watch the program as it transfers it will delete as soon as the transfer ends.

[ciscokidinsf]

hey zpimpa, have you tried moving the files from your pc instead of the external hard drive? See if that works. I hope TDN can get files from external drives, b/c that is where most of my files reside. Right now I move my files from the external hard drive into the PC (or Mac, in my case) I haven't tried pointing out to an ecternal drive yet. Has anyone actually done a transfer OK from an external drive? Let me know. Thanks.

[windracer]

Has anyone actually done a transfer OK from an external drive? Let me know. Thanks.
I have, but I'm running TiVo.Net on Linux and my external drive is a thus a samba share. Works great.

[windracer]

Error adding file E: \+Andrew\Videos\Movie_Name\EXT\LOT_X.VCD : Access is denied
Is TiVo.Net creating the metaDB.xml file in the directory where you installed it? That's the file that it should be creating that holds all the video information (the database, as it were). How are you running the service? Maybe it doesn't have write privs to that folder?

Also, is that + actually in the folder name? I wonder if maybe that is causing a problem?

[ciscokidinsf]

my external drive is a thus a samba share. Works great

I got a network storage adapter with a samba share as well. However, it seems to drop out the connection after a while in my mac (plus, I don't know how to type the mac directory path into TDN to an external hard drive. Help please!) I haven't tried windows yet through the samba share.

Also, has anyone run Tivotogo ot tivodotnet on a Mac running windows? (Parallels) I want to know, since I'll be attempting such a feat next week when my new iMac arrives.

[KRKeegan]

Also, has anyone run Tivotogo ot tivodotnet on a Mac running windows? (Parallels)

Not to my knowledge. I think most mac users use the mono version.

[greg_burns]

Hey guys .. Tivo net appears in my Now Playing directory and I can view directories but the directories are empty. I'm getting the following error in the Tivo Net log files:

Error adding file E: \+Andrew\Videos\Movie_Name\EXT\LOT_X.VCD : Access is denied

Error adding file E: \+Andrew\Videos\Movie_Name\Movie.Name.XviD.avi : Access is denied

The files are on an external HD...any ideas? Thanks

Possibly?

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4858156&&#post4858156

[Ron667]

Hey guys .. Tivo net appears in my Now Playing directory and I can view directories but the directories are empty. I'm getting the following error in the Tivo Net log files:

Error adding file E: \+Andrew\Videos\Movie_Name\EXT\LOT_X.VCD : Access is denied

Error adding file E: \+Andrew\Videos\Movie_Name\Movie.Name.XviD.avi : Access is denied

The files are on an external HD...any ideas? Thanks
I had a directory with an ampersand (i.e. /downloads/Season 1 & 2) which caused TivoDotNet all kinds of problems. Once I renamed that directory, all was well (after a rescan). Just a thought that it might not be related to a network share, but rather to your directory naming. Might want to give it a try to see.

[Stu_Bee]

many of us, but not all, have issues when the file size is over estimated too. This problem manifests itself as a transfer error when the TiVo reaches the end of the program. Also if I do not watch the program as it transfers it will delete as soon as the transfer ends.

I'm curious as to how many people are having an OVERestimate issue rather than just the UNDERestimate size issue.
The way to tell what the estimated size is to Launch TivoDesktop DURING the transfer and see what Tivo reports the size as (it's still in-progress). Then see if the file actually became larger than that after the transfer (also using TivoDesktop)

The reason I bring this up, is that it's a heck of a lot easier to fix just an underestimate problem, rather than having to be exact in it's guess.

ps. I'm talking Windows version...but Mono people can report too :)

[Renesis]

I special thanks to windracer for providing me with the following sample xml code from Desktop 2.4:


<Details>
<Title>Jeremy's Good Eats</Title>
<ContentType>video/x-tivo-mpeg</ContentType>
<SourceFormat>video/x-ms-wmv</SourceFormat>
<CopyProtected>No</CopyProtected>
<Duration>817798</Duration>
<SourceSize>275347456</SourceSize>
</Details>


The significant change is in the "x-ms-wmv" source format tag. Unfortunately adding this to my server didn't fix the transfer interrupted bug. Which leaves only two possibilities.
1. TiVo Desktop is able to accurately predict filesizes by using a constant bit rate.
or
2. TiVo Desktop has a graceful way of telling TiVo "Hey sorry I over estimated the file there is actually no more"

I am leaning towards option 1 as being the more likely candidate. The bummer is that this means there is no simple solution to our problem. As far as I can tell, (while it appears differently), there is no way to force ffmpeg to a constant bit rate which means our file sizes can never be exactly predicted.

pipakin if you want to chime in here feel free.

If I have some more free time I might cough up the $25 and do a closer inspection of Desktop 2.4 plus and maybe we can get lucky and find the answer.

Have you tried using the -bt option for ffmpeg? I posted about it a few posts back.

[A@ron]

Not to my knowledge. I think most mac users use the mono version.

I've done it both ways... I run the mono version now once I got it working though :)

[KRKeegan]

Have you tried using the -bt option for ffmpeg? I posted about it a few posts back.Yeah I have tried the -bt option, but with no luck. Honestly I can't even figure out if -bt does anything.

I did look around the interwebs and found other people trying to force ffmpeg to use a constant bit rate. It seems like the consensus is that it just can't be done.

I think this weekend I may fork over the $25 and start deconstructing Desktop 2.4 Plus. If I am lucky maybe I will find a solution.

Kevin

[ocntscha]

I'm curious as to how many people are having an OVERestimate issue rather than just the UNDERestimate size issue.Yep, KRKeegan's still parading his gloom around about being screwed either way, over or under. We get it KR, you've got some kind of weird issue. Allegedly some of you other folks do too, I don't know, but I have NO issue. I DID. UNTIL I tried the fudge factor setting. I set it to 1.8 I transferred lots and lots of stuff, no problems. Then I had one file that disappeared, I cranked up the fudge to 4, haven't had a failure since. It doesn't matter if the file is over 800 Megabytes, it doesn't matter if I watch any or none of it while it transfers, it just doesn't matter, it just works. It even works better than the Tivodesktop Plus which I took a look at, that thing has trouble transcoding some of my files, gets a bunch of ugly greenish noise at the bottom of the screen, Tivo.Net handles the exact same files flawlessly.

Maybe my good luck has to do with my ffmpeg settings? I've using 4:3 aspect ratio, I'm currently set on the High video bitrate because above high I can't do real time. Although I did use the settings below High very successfully quite a bit before I determined I could go all the way to High. I use mpeg2 audio codec (that was not the default and if any of this matters that would be the one I'd guess), Audo bit rate medium, audio sample rate 48000, audio channels restrict to 2 (of course that probably irrelevant since I'm not using AC3), and Do Not Use audio sync.

One other final thought, stab in the dark at why some of you might be having trouble, possibly your Tivo's hard drives are just filled completely to capacity and thats the source of the trouble? Maybe some of you folks like KR might want to delete several hours of recordings and then try a transfer, see if that helps.

[cdf12345]

I am having the exact same problems, when the video arrives on my tivo, the sound is super loud, when the original source file was not that way. It does sound quite distorted, and it seems to happen with all the files I try to send to my tivo. (both my dvd recorder humax, and my dvd player Toshiba)

Any ideas?




I didn't make it all the way through all 30 pages of the thread, but I did go through every page and search for "volume" and didn't find anything, so I apologize if this has been mentioned before.

However, I find that the videos that come off my PC are about 6 times as loud as what I just get normally on the TV. I normally watch things with my TV at a volume of 35 or so, I have to watch videos over Tivo dot Nyet at no more than 6, otherwise it's deafening. It also seems like it's so loud that even at low volumes, there's some distortion to the audio.

I noticed on the Wiki for the project there are mentions of conversion options in the admin page, but the page shown on the Wiki appears to be from an old version (it also mentions that the latest version is .9.1, I've got .9.5) and the admin page doesn't seem to have those options for me.

Any hints?

EDIT: Duh, I'm an idiot and didn't realize the ffmpeg plugin page had all the encoding options on it. I don't see a volume option anywhere on there, though...

EDIT AGAIN: I noticed that changing the audio output from AC3 to Mpeg2 seems to alleviated it somewhat. I can now watch videos at about 15 volume, which isn't nearly so bad. The nice thing is, it's not insanely "I'm worried I'm going to blow my speakers" loud if I forget to turn it down.

[KRKeegan]

I am having the exact same problems, when the video arrives on my tivo, the sound is super loud, when the original source file was not that way.
Well that is no good. Are you running TiVo.Net in windows?? It sounds like a ffmpeg issue, my suggestion would be to try and transcode some video from the command line and see if it plays super loud on your PC too.

[Stu_Bee]

I am having the exact same problems, when the video arrives on my tivo, the sound is super loud, when the original source file was not that way. It does sound quite distorted, and it seems to happen with all the files I try to send to my tivo. (both my dvd recorder humax, and my dvd player Toshiba)
Any ideas?

In an early version of tivo.net, pipkin had a box for additional FFMPEG command line options. That box was removed in later versions, but pipkin said it was an oversight an he would be adding it back.
So if that ever happens and the commandline feature gets added back to tivo.net (or already did, since I'm still using and older .91a), maybe the ffmpeg command line option for audio level would work:

-vol volume change audio volume (256=normal)

ps: I found that the registry entry still exists for options into tivo.net's ffmpeg command line. The above setting didnt' help :(

[matneh]

I'm making a guess, but my bet is that it's the SeriesID is from their data provider. (Does TiVo use Tribune? TV Guide?). When I pull a listing from Zap2It's web services, each show has a program ID in a format of either "SH000000.0000" or "EP000000.0000". I believe that SH means it's a "showing" program, whereas "EP" indicates an episodic program. For example (trimmed):

<programme start="20070207230000 -0700" stop="20070208000000 -0700">
<title lang="en">Modern Marvels</title>
<sub-title lang="en">Hydraulics</sub-title>
<desc lang="en">The transmission of forces from point to point through fluid opens the door for the Industrial Revolution.</desc>
<date>20040512</date>
<episode-num system="dd_progid">EP103115.0345</episode-num>
</programme>

Do they fit this format:
First two digits are alphanumeric and correspond to movies (MV), shows (SH), episodes (EP) and sports (SP).

I wish I knew how to get a list of all prog id's but I don't. And I'd be cautious about making them up randomly, or they may collide with real shows.

I guess you could put them all under SH000001 ("Paid Programming"). Does anyone TiVo those?
I haven't seen any update in a long time about the "SeriesId" capability and if we could manage to force our video files to go into folders on the TiVo. Has anybody had luck with forcing the SeriesId value?

[Sarnie24]

I'm having a problem running the newest version of TiVo.Net. I was using version 3 successfully but I wanted to move TiVo.Net to a different hard drive and I couldn't figure out how so I deleted everything then went to download it again and I keep getting a message that says " The cabinet file '_C438E0DA6D445DFF3724A1ABED0663F4' required for this installation is corrupt and cannot be used. This could indicate a network error, an error reading from the CD-ROM, or a problem with this package." Does anyone know what this means and how I can fix it?

[KRKeegan]

Sorry ocntscha, I know you are sick of hearing from me, but this should be the last time.

pipakin I solved the issue of what to send at the end of the file. It is pretty simple, send a http code 206 partial content. And include the following headers
Connection: close
Content-Type: video/x-tivo-mpeg
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Server: TiVo Server/1.4.257.475

This gracefully tells TiVo that there is no more video to be had. All I had to do was replace the 404 error with this and everything works perfect now.

Other than that Desktop 2.4 works almost identically but not as good as TiVo.Net. When it starts the file transfer it estimates a file size, but this size is much more bloated than TiVo.Net's file size is.

Alright well good luck all, I will stop bugging you and wander back to my thread. I just wanted to give pipakin the solution that we have both been looking for.

Kevin

[greg_burns]

I'm having a problem running the newest version of TiVo.Net. I was using version 3 successfully but I wanted to move TiVo.Net to a different hard drive and I couldn't figure out how so I deleted everything then went to download it again and I keep getting a message that says " The cabinet file '_C438E0DA6D445DFF3724A1ABED0663F4' required for this installation is corrupt and cannot be used. This could indicate a network error, an error reading from the CD-ROM, or a problem with this package." Does anyone know what this means and how I can fix it?

Is the new computer Vista? I think we are all getting that when trying to install latest on Vista.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4911654&&#post4911654

[windracer]

I think there's a problem with the .msi on SourceForge for the latest version. There is a discussion about it here:

http://www.satellite-of-love.org/Forums/YaBB.pl?num=1172286140

[dlfl]

Sorry ocntscha, I know you are sick of hearing from me, but this should be the last time.

pipakin I solved the issue of what to send at the end of the file. It is pretty simple, send a http code 206 partial content. And include the following headers
Connection: close
Content-Type: video/x-tivo-mpeg
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Server: TiVo Server/1.4.257.475

This gracefully tells TiVo that there is no more video to be had. All I had to do was replace the 404 error with this and everything works perfect now.

Other than that Desktop 2.4 works almost identically but not as good as TiVo.Net. When it starts the file transfer it estimates a file size, but this size is much more bloated than TiVo.Net's file size is.

Alright well good luck all, I will stop bugging you and wander back to my thread. I just wanted to give pipakin the solution that we have both been looking for.

Kevin
I'm not tired of hearing from you ... hope this is the silver bullet !

[greg_burns]

I think there's a problem with the .msi on SourceForge for the latest version. There is a discussion about it here:

http://www.satellite-of-love.org/Forums/YaBB.pl?num=1172286140

Interesting, I thought it was just Vista. I don't think I had a problem installing the latest on my XP machine. Need to double check that.

[pepalmer]

There is still a problem with the Windows .msi download. I keep getting a corrupted .CAB error message when trying to install. Can this be corrected? I really want to try the software.

Thanks,

Paul

[ourdoc]

Interesting, I thought it was just Vista. I don't think I had a problem installing the latest on my XP machine. Need to double check that.

I had no problem installing it on my Vista machine, but I did get it when it was first posted, don't know what the status is now..

[MikeTV1_2000]

Is it possible to enable the remote-admin option without being on the local machine? I have it installed and running, but cannot access the admin locally as it is a headless machine.

Thanks

[windracer]

Is it possible to enable the remote-admin option without being on the local machine? I have it installed and running, but cannot access the admin locally as it is a headless machine.
Add the following line to your settings.xml file:
<RemoteAccess>true</RemoteAccess>

[ocntscha]

Is it possible to enable the remote-admin option without being on the local machine? I have it installed and running, but cannot access the admin locally as it is a headless machine.Looks like

<RemoteAccess>true</RemoteAccess>

in settings.xml should work.

So, you don't have any web browsers on that thing at all?

[MikeTV1_2000]

I didn't. I threw Lynx on there and was able to get in enough to enable the feature. But the information here is usefull to others in the future. :)

[Sarnie24]

I'm having a problem running the newest version of TiVo.Net. I was using version 3 successfully but I wanted to move TiVo.Net to a different hard drive and I couldn't figure out how so I deleted everything then went to download it again and I keep getting a message that says " The cabinet file '_C438E0DA6D445DFF3724A1ABED0663F4' required for this installation is corrupt and cannot be used. This could indicate a network error, an error reading from the CD-ROM, or a problem with this package." Does anyone know what this means and how I can fix it?

After I posted this I read that someone else installed an earlier version so I tried to do that also, but it would not install because it said the program already exists. I went to Add/Remove Programs and even though I had manually deleted TiVo.Net it was still there, so I tried to remove it and it said that it couldn't find the files to remove and then had a fatal error and would not uninstall. I tried removing everything that said TiVo.Net in the registry, but that didn't work either. Next I reset my computer to 2 days prior and TiVo.Net was back but not working. So now I'm stuck it won't delete so I can download a working version and the one that's on the computer doesn't work. Can anyone help? I've also posted this request for help in the 'Help' forum for TiVo.Net but no one has replied. Oh, I'm only using Windows XP, no Vista yet.

[A@ron]

Well I've done some more testing with NSXML and got it all good to go here.

http://homepage.mac.com/bedelman/newUI1.png

http://homepage.mac.com/bedelman/newUI2.png

http://homepage.mac.com/bedelman/newUI3.png

NEW GUI
The ability to output the settings.xml with any changes made in the prefpane is now supported.
Added a button for rescanning but I cannot get the code to pause for a second while executing some commands so it does it too quickly and it does not work. PM me if you are good with Cocoa and know how to do this :)

Read the readme :)
TivoMonoMac & PrefPane (http://homepage.mac.com/bedelman/TiVoMonoMacandPref.zip)

[symesmd]

Great application. It seems to me there should be some way of having the service automatically scan the directory for changes every xx minutes instead of having to manually rescan. Am I overlooking this feature?

[windracer]

You're not overlooking it ... pipakin hasn't put it in yet. :)

[greg_burns]

I tried removing everything that said TiVo.Net in the registry, but that didn't work either. Next I reset my computer to 2 days prior and TiVo.Net was back but not working. So now I'm stuck it won't delete so I can download a working version and the one that's on the computer doesn't work. Can anyone help?

Try this to uninstall the service. Don't know if that will be enough though.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4867863#post4867863

[rambler]

I'm trying to install this, and one of the first screens stops me and says I need a NET framework thing. The link then takes me to a page with about 25 choices. I tried one (a 22 meg file) and it didn't work. Which NET thing am I after?

Thanks.

[Enrique]

I ma getting this when i try to install how do i fix this:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8499/20070304192554xc6.png

[windracer]

I ma getting this when i try to install how do i fix this:
I know this is a long thread, but go back one page:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4922794&&#post4922794

[Enrique]

I know this is a long thread, but go back one page:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4922794&&#post4922794ok thanks.

[lateknight]

I know this is a long thread, but go back one page:



Awesome, I just edited a screen shot of this down to post it...thanks!

[lateknight]

Okay, so after reading that forum thread, I installed the program from the .zip file, and opened TivoMono.exe I'm not sure what it does, other than saying "System Started!" All of the documentation appears to be for ffmpeg. I see that there are files for the User Interface, but I'm not sure how to launch it. Also, I found the settings.xml file, but I'm not sure what to put in there. Any suggestions? Any info on when the more-idiot-proof .msi file will be fixed? Thanks!

[greg_burns]

I'm trying to install this, and one of the first screens stops me and says I need a NET framework thing. The link then takes me to a page with about 25 choices. I tried one (a 22 meg file) and it didn't work. Which NET thing am I after?

Thanks.

Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en)

[lateknight]

So I just took off TivoMono, not sure if it's not for Windows, but that's the impression that I got. I installed 0.9.6a and that seems to work well. Looking forward to installing the new version when it works!

[dlfl]

I've been testing pyTivo heavily the last couple of days and I think KRKeegan has cracked the file-size/end-of-transfer problem, as he stated in an earlier post in this thread. See this post in the pyTivo thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4928608&&#post4928608) for a detailed explanation of how it works.

Hope this can be implemented in Tivo.Net!

[lateknight]

So I've been able to transfer over a few .avi files just to test things. What I was trying to do now was to transfer over an episode of 24 that I got off of iTunes (I missed it last week). I saw that .m4v files are supported, but when I tried to do it (I also changed the video and audio quality to medium...) nothing happened. I've been able to transfer .avi files since then, but still nothing off of iTunes. Is this a copy-protection problem compliments of Apple? Thanks for the help!

[lateknight]

So I have to post one other worthless post before I can post my error message b/c it contains something that's interpreted as a URL...sorry

[lateknight]

I get the following error when I try to transfer over a video file from iTunes to the TiVo: The specified network name is no longer available - at System.Net.HttpResponseStream.Dispose(Boolean disposing) at System.IO.Stream.Close() at System.IO.StreamWriter.Dispose(Boolean disposing) at System.IO.StreamWriter.Close() at TiVoDotNetBase.TivoDotNet.ParseVideoUrl(String url, HttpListenerContext con, ContainerItem ci) at TiVoDotNetBase.TivoDotNet.ContextCallback(IAsyncResult ar)

This is a fatal error which either slows everything WAY down, or freezes my TiVo when trying to stop the recording which isn't going anyway requiring a reboot. Thoughts?

Sorry about all the messages, thanks for all the help...this is a great thread!

[windracer]

My guess would be the Apple Fairplay DRM is getting in the way and causing the crash.

[ciscokidinsf]

A@ron, your link is NOT working to get the new pref panel.
Can you please re-post it? I assume it is still 10.4 only, right?

Also, yes, TDN does NOT work with Itunes stuff. (DRM issues) it is a similar issue wht MS-DVR files don't work either. ffmpeg des NOT unprotect this stuff. I guess the Itunes fanatics will have to make do with 'Apple TV' whenever it comes out.

[Fofer]

Read the readme :)
TivoMonoMac & PrefPane (TiVoMonoMacandPref.zip)

Yeah, just came to post about the link not working.

BTW thanks for the excellent work, A@ron... it's very much appreciated!

[A@ron]

Yeah, just came to post about the link not working.

BTW thanks for the excellent work, A@ron... it's very much appreciated!

Link is fixed... sorry about that guys. Yes it is still 10.4 unfortunately the programming aspect (NSXML) was not available in 10.3 so if I made one for 10.3 it could only start and stop the process.

[rambler]

Okay, so after reading that forum thread, I installed the program from the .zip file, and opened TivoMono.exe I'm not sure what it does, other than saying "System Started!" All of the documentation appears to be for ffmpeg. I see that there are files for the User Interface, but I'm not sure how to launch it. Also, I found the settings.xml file, but I'm not sure what to put in there. Any suggestions? Any info on when the more-idiot-proof .msi file will be fixed? Thanks!I got as far as you did, after adding a "video" directory. But then nothing but the black screen, "system started, q for quit" or whatever. Think I will try an older msi version this evening.....

[windracer]

The black screen with "System started" is all you will see.

After you have that running, try pointing your browser to http://localhost:9033 and you should see the TiVo.Net Admin interface. You can configure it from there.

[lateknight]

The black screen with "System started" is all you will see.

After you have that running, try pointing your browser to http://localhost:9033 and you should see the TiVo.Net Admin interface. You can configure it from there.

Thanks...I actually just went back one version and installed the .msi Seems to work well except for Apple ability to thwart my attempts to transfer m4v files downloaded from iTunes.

[A@ron]

I wouldn't blame apple afterall it won't with with ANY OTHER TYPE OF DRMED FILE. Blame the content companies which insist on DRM or maybe use other questionable means to acquire your video.

[lateknight]

I wouldn't blame apple afterall it won't with with ANY OTHER TYPE OF DRMED FILE. Blame the content companies which insist on DRM or maybe use other questionable means to acquire your video.

Just reinforces the use of methods involving questionable legality to get videos on my TiVo :D If only I could use that as my defense when sued by the MPAA and RIAA...oh well :rolleyes:

[dwgsp]

I have be traveling for the past 3+ weeks, so I have not upgraded since installing version 0.8.0a. It seems to work ok, but I am wondering: is there a more recent stable version that I should install? It sounds like some folks are having trouble installing the most recent release (a CAB file issue).

Thanks!
/Don

[morac]

The latest version is pretty stable and when (if?) Pipakin implements the changes KRKeegan recommended (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4922449&&#post4922449) it will be near perfect.

BTW it's been 2 weeks since Pipakin said he was going to bed and there hasn't been any posts from him here or on his forums. Anyone know if he is all right?

[Sam Lowry]

I have be traveling for the past 3+ weeks, so I have not upgraded since installing version 0.8.0a. It seems to work ok, but I am wondering: is there a more recent stable version that I should install? It sounds like some folks are having trouble installing the most recent release (a CAB file issue).

Thanks!
/Don

I was using .97a and couldn't get it to transfer successfully. .9.1a seems to be the way to go- works great! Not sure what's different.
SL

[A@ron]

I also made an installer for tivomono, pkill (which is needed for the prefpane) and the preference pane for Mac OS X 10.4+

TivoMonoMac Installer (http://homepage.mac.com/bedelman/TivoMonoMacInstaller.zip)

[calimada]

Sorry, if i'm posting in the wrong forum, but i got an hr10-250 which has zipper/rbautch tweak's on it and is network capable...

Will Tivo Net work for me? My tivo HR10-250 is still running 3.1.15f system software

I have it installed on my xp machine, but tivo doesn't see the files on my PC running tivo net...

Do I need to 6.2, 6.3c, etc.? or will this only work on certain tivo boxes...

I'm very new to the idea of transferring files from one tivo to another or sending files back and forth between tivo and my pc, so any point in the right direction would be appreciated.

I did some more digging and found that the hr10-250 can never do MRV, even if i use a post OS 4.0 (i.e. 6.3c)...

just curious why can't the hr10-250 do MRV? never saw that question answered...

[Leo_N]

Sorry, if i'm posting in the wrong forum, but i got an hr10-250 which has zipper/rbautch tweak's on it and is network capable...

Will Tivo Net work for me? My tivo HR10-250 is still running 3.1.15f system software

I have it installed on my xp machine, but tivo doesn't see the files on my PC running tivo net...

Do I need to 6.2, 6.3c, etc.? or will this only work on certain tivo boxes...

I'm very new to the idea of transferring files from one tivo to another or sending files back and forth between tivo and my pc, so any point in the right direction would be appreciated.

I did some more digging and found that the hr10-250 can never do MRV, even if i use a post OS 4.0 (i.e. 6.3c)...

just curious why can't the hr10-250 do MRV? never saw that question answered...

It can't do MRV or TTG stuff because DirecTV didn't want TiVo enabling it. Not sure if there are hacks out there that will work or not.

[lilzark]

Can you help? I am trying to get this running on a Mac. The installations seemed to go fine, but I just keep getting this error - "Address already in use" (I cannot post the full error message because I am a new poster and it thinks it's a URL.)
I don't know if it matters, I have Tivo Desktop, but it is turned off. Thanks for any help, this is new and complex stuff for me.

[A@ron]

I've never seen that error before, perhaps you should register at pipakins forum and post it there. I don't think there is a restriction on his forum. If I see the error I may be able to help.

[cdf12345]

Is there a way for Tivonet to "see" video files in multiple hard drives?

I have a video directory on two different hard drives, but I can only seem to get tivo net to see only directory at a time.

In the documentation, it says it will parse .lnk shortcuts, but I cant seem to get that to work.


Any ideas?

[windracer]

Is there a way for Tivonet to "see" video files in multiple hard drives?
Just add the multiple folders to your Directory list, separated by commas.

[cmtk05]

yeah were is Pipakin? Did Tivos latest 2.4 desktop run him out?

[cdf12345]

Just add the multiple folders to your Directory list, separated by commas.

Where exactly are you talking about?

in the Tivo.net Administration page? I tried that and tivo.net didnt see any files when I put in multiple directories separated by commas.

Im using 0.9.7a because I cant get the newer release to install because of that CAB error.

[windracer]

I tried that and tivo.net didnt see any files when I put in multiple directories separated by commas.
Whoops. You might have to use a semicolon, not comma.

http://www.satellite-of-love.org/Forums/YaBB.pl?num=1171293818

[cdf12345]

The semi colon did the trick!

Thanks!

[aringhof]

Why would anyone download a program onto your home computer. hope you guys dont use online banking, paypal, or pay your credit cards online. to anyone that downloaded this program, you esspentially gave this guy the keys to your house.

[aringhof]

now having said that... where can I get the software again, it sounds like a wonderful idea!!!

[morac]

Why would anyone download a program onto your home computer. hope you guys dont use online banking, paypal, or pay your credit cards online. to anyone that downloaded this program, you esspentially gave this guy the keys to your house.
The good thing about open source software is you can look at the code (http://tivodotnet.cvs.sourceforge.net/tivodotnet/TiVo.Net/) and see exactly what it is doing.

Oh and you can download it here (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=187185).

[KRKeegan]

Why would anyone download a program onto your home computer. hope you guys dont use online banking, paypal, or pay your credit cards online. to anyone that downloaded this program, you esspentially gave this guy the keys to your house.Please tell me you were attempting to be funny. Otherwise please do a little research before making such a sweeping statement, it just makes you look like a fool.

Anyone who installs a program on their computer should only do so if they trust the security of the program. The posting of over 1000 replies to this software and the availability of the source code I think provide more than enough evidence that you can trust this software.

Additionally accusing someone who has donated countless hours for other's enjoyment of being a malicious hacker just is not nice.

Thanks Pipakin keep up the good work.

[ocntscha]

Additionally accusing someone who has donated countless hours for other's enjoyment of being a malicious hacker just is not nice.

Thanks Pipakin keep up the good work.Hmm, well it is kind of odd how Pipakin got us all engrossed in this and suddenly vanished off the face the earth. Could it all have been a ploy? Perhaps he's emptied all our bank accounts and is currently sipping Margaritas on a beach in Peru.

[KRKeegan]

Hmm, well it is kind of odd how Pipakin got us all engrossed in this and suddenly vanished off the face the earth. Could it all have been a ploy? Perhaps he's emptied all our bank accounts and is currently sipping Margaritas on a beach in Peru.I think it is more likely he spent the money repairing the water damage to his house.

[bschuler2007]

Yep... he's on the beach alright. Imagine the cunning mastermind behind this. He not only MAKES a good program that works.. he even makes MAC and Linux versions. All the while charging nothing. Then he makes a website, etc.. All just to sweaten the pot before taking us all down.. My is he evil :) What ever happened to the the 2kb download scriptkiddie hackers?

Honestly.. I think he is just busy.. PLUS he's probably concerned Tivo will pull the rug out on his program (easily possible) just to irk us if it gets TOO popular.

Honestly, My idea is that if ya need an answer real bad.. just donate an amount large enough to get his attention. I donated just cuz it's a great program, without wich, I probably wouldn't use Tivo.

[sytyguy]

I have been following this thread for some time now, mainly because I have a SA Tivo, and this software sounded very exciting, but then I realized that I have most of my movies on DVD, including everything I recorded via my camcorder. Plus, I have a computer hooked up to my Sceptre TV via DVI-HDMI, which I watch movies in 1080p.

So the stupid question is, why would I want to pursue this course, is there any benefit to me?

TIA,

Rich

[windracer]

Why would anyone download a program onto your home computer. hope you guys dont use online banking, paypal, or pay your credit cards online. to anyone that downloaded this program, you esspentially gave this guy the keys to your house.
So you don't download any programs except from developers you know personally? That's pretty harsh ...

[rambler]

I have been following this thread for some time now, mainly because I have a SA Tivo, and this software sounded very exciting, but then I realized that I have most of my movies on DVD, including everything I recorded via my camcorder. Plus, I have a computer hooked up to my Sceptre TV via DVI-HDMI, which I watch movies in 1080p.

So the stupid question is, why would I want to pursue this course, is there any benefit to me?

TIA,

Rich
It's not the kill, it's the thrill of the chase.

[sytyguy]

It's not the kill, it's the thrill of the chase.
So I guess that means there is no sense in me following this thread?

Seriously, I am not being sarcastic, and I mean no disrespect to the author, I commend him, what an achievement he has accomplishment.

Anyway, many thanks for a great thread.

[windracer]

I don't (and won't) use TiVo.Net to move all of my DVDs into electronic format.

I use it to move downloaded content (video podcasts, DivX files, etc.) onto my TiVo so I can watch it on a television instead of my PC.

[cmtk05]

ok so things are quiet and no new dev, what's up with everyone?

I am still on either 8 or 9.1, only ones i can get to work.

[cmtk05]

I have had this for a long time. Anytime i convert divx/xvid to mpeg my audio is way to loud. I have to put the tv on 4 or 5 when the action starts. however when there is talking i have to turn it to 7. Any way to normalize this?

[Chew]

I've searched and searched through this thread and cannot find an answer to my question that works. I've also tried by installing three different versions 0.8.0a, 0.9.1a, and 0.9.7a (0.9.7a fixed doesn't install at all, "cabinet error").

Every time, the same thing happens: The folder is available in Now Playing and the files show up in the folder. I click on a file to start the transfer and it states it "has been added to the To Do list".....where it sits. Even rebooting the TiVo doesn't help. The error log shows "specified network name is no longer available".

How do I fix this? :(

[xWayne]

Hi. I have just set up my series 2 TiVo, attached to my wireless LAN, TiVo is working in the Livingroom fine.

I found this discussion and red the first 10 or pages and the last couple of pages. I downloaded 0.9.7a-fixed and tried to install. Got the corrupted CAB error.

Successfully installed 0.9.1a. When I go to File Manager, I see the 2 videos I am using as a test. If I check one (or both) files, fill in the text boxes, and click the Update button, I get an error that, when viewed with a debugger, reads:

"An unhandled exception of type 'System.NullReferenceException' occurred in TiVoDotNetBase.dll"

"Additional information: Object referrence not set to an instance of an object."

At this point, the TiVo_Net service is stopped.

Has anyone seen this? I guess I'll try to uninstall and install a previous version.

Great idea. Thanks in advance for any help.

[cdf12345]

I just started having the exact same problem after it had been working fine for a few weeks. I wonder if Tivo did something to block out tivo.net's access to try and sell the $25 upgrade to tivo desktop........that plus lack of communication from the author makes me think something might be up.


I've searched and searched through this thread and cannot find an answer to my question that works. I've also tried by installing three different versions 0.8.0a, 0.9.1a, and 0.9.7a (0.9.7a fixed doesn't install at all, "cabinet error").

Every time, the same thing happens: The folder is available in Now Playing and the files show up in the folder. I click on a file to start the transfer and it states it "has been added to the To Do list".....where it sits. Even rebooting the TiVo doesn't help. The error log shows "specified network name is no longer available".

How do I fix this? :(

[Chew]

Temporary solution that worked this time: Rebooted the TiVo, picked a ready-to-go file from "My TiVo Recordings" folder that transfers via standard GoBack, then added a TiVo.Net file.

Hopefully this process will work in the future, minus the reboot.

[greg_burns]

Every time, the same thing happens: The folder is available in Now Playing and the files show up in the folder. I click on a file to start the transfer and it states it "has been added to the To Do list".....where it sits. Even rebooting the TiVo doesn't help. The error log shows "specified network name is no longer available".

I just started having the exact same problem after it had been working fine for a few weeks.

Mine worked for awhile, then stopped, then started again on one of my tivo. Always worked on the other. The only thing that has been changing has been the free space on my Tivo... I think the problem is related to that somehow. :confused:

[ourdoc]

I just started having the exact same problem after it had been working fine for a few weeks. I wonder if Tivo did something to block out tivo.net's access to try and sell the $25 upgrade to tivo desktop........that plus lack of communication from the author makes me think something might be up.

I don't believe TiVo would do this, and mine continues to work as it has since I installed it. It has it's problems, but it does work with all of my S2 TiVos. I would imagine the author also has RL things to attend to.

[Chew]

I give up. :mad:

In addition to the earlier problems, when I actually did get it to work: it took a 45 minute show three times that length to transfer (I have a 3ghz processor, I would hope conversion speed isn't the issue there). I have a 16:9 TV and when I had it set for 16:9, it came out impossible to watch. I set it for 4:3 and it plays fine, but when you have a 16:9 TV show on a 16:9 TV....you kinda want to have it fill the screen.

So it's back to 1:1 transfer time with standard GoBack and the Videora TiVo Converter (which fills the 16:9 screen nicely).

[cdf12345]

Mine worked for awhile, then stopped, then started again on one of my tivo. Always worked on the other. The only thing that has been changing has been the free space on my Tivo... I think the problem is related to that somehow. :confused:


Hmm I now believe you're on to something there. I deleted a bunch of shows on my Humax DVD-R 800 tivo and blammo! it suddenly is transfering shows without problem again. I think the confusion is that if Tivo.net cant find enough space, it sends the message to the tivo that something else is already in the transfer queue. We assume it's a bad error message, but it might be the only error message Tivo.net has the ability to display.

So if you're having the problem of nothing in your transfer queue, but tivo telling you it'll transfer your show after the others have finished, cancel the transfer, delete some shows then try to transfer it again.

Worked for me!

On a serious note, I dont know pipkin at all, has anyone been in contact with him at all recently. I understand that real life does suck us away from time to time, but with it being this long, I'm starting to worry about him.

Anyone heard from him at all?

[windracer]

Unfortunately, no. He hasn't been around on his own forums either. He had some RL water issues, so it's possible those are still keeping him busy.

[dlfl]

Taking nothing away from Pipakin and his admirable effort, if you are having trouble with Tivo.Net and don't want to wait for improvements, give pyTivo (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4609427&&#post4609427) a look. It has undergone major improvements in the last several weeks, including:

1. Lists .tivo files and tivo-compatible mpeg2 files and transfers them without re-encoding.
2. What appears to be a true solution to the file size estimate/end of transfer issue.
3. Just launch it with a shortcut. It automatically scans all eligible files into the NPL for as many directories (and automatically, subdirectories) as you care to enter into its simple config file.

It does require you to install Python but that's simple, easy and free.
If you decide to try it, get the latest version (173 as of this writing) and look at the last few posts in the thread for the latest info.

[A@ron]

I could not make heads nor tales on how to get pyTivo working on my mac... yes I installed python it looks like it may be working but does not show on the tivo's NPL. I also dislike having to run it from not only the CLI but worse... the python's environment (IDLE).

[cdf12345]

i've noticed some of my video files show up as 0:00 under duration in the Tivo program information page. And I cannot transfer these videos. As far as i know these are Divx or Xvid files, and I have other divx and xvid that work fine. When I try to transfer these I get the "has been queued / will transfer when other transfers finish" even though I have no other transfers.

Anyone else have this problem?

[A@ron]

I bet ffmpeg is not liking those files and hence why they show up with 0:00 duration. AVI is simply a container format and the internal video track and audio track can be a lot of different file types. So that's my guess... any pattern or anything special with those AVIs with 0:00 duration?

[Chew]

Taking nothing away from Pipakin and his admirable effort, if you are having trouble with Tivo.Net and don't want to wait for improvements, give pyTivo (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4609427&&#post4609427) a look.

pyTiVo never installed for me. I tried three times and the install got about 80% done and....stopped.

[dlfl]

pyTiVo never installed for me. I tried three times and the install got about 80% done and....stopped.
Don't want to make this a pyTivo thread. I suggest any problems with pyTivo be posted on the pyTivo thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4609427&&#post4609427) -- and if you haven't tried it within the last couple of weeks, things may be different now.

[pufftissue]

1. Can you do this on a series 3?
2. What is the video quality like? Does the Tivo have some type of deinterlacing and other stuff to spruce up the pic?

[Fofer]

1. Can you do this on a series 3?


No, the Series 3 doesn't support this kind of video transfer (TiVo To Go and GoBack)...at least not yet.

[cdf12345]

Ive noticed if download the alternative version of the encoder (ffmpeg)
it is able to convert the avi files that wouldnt work previously (the ones that showed up as 0:00 length).

Interesting...

The files are http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=187185&package_id=219395&release_id=481183

if anyone else has the same issues.

[cmtk05]

I have heard that the dtv h20 has networking enabled. Anyone know if this is true? I would love to go to sat but i need the tivo to go function.

[akaye]

Hmm...Interesting stuff here. I've been away from this forum for too long it seems....
Would one these tools let me, say, watch a (virtual) DVD that I have on the computer on my Tivo?

thx,
AK

[Stirfry714]

Okay, I got this installed, and I see the Tivo.NET server on my Tivo. But no videos are in the directory I selected.... and I made sure they were supported - .avi files.

Had to use the TiVoDotNet-0.9.7a (2007-02-20 16:05) .msi installer, the "-fixed" one gave Cabinet errors.

It says on the Tivo screen "The Tivo.Net Server.... has no recordings..."

I noticed in the error log these messages (I moved the directory around a bit to see if that would help, but no dice):

Source Message
mscorlib Could not find a part of the path 'C:\Program Files\Pipkin Technologies\TiVo.Net\Videos'.
mscorlib Could not find a part of the path 'Z:\Archive\Video'.

The severity on both is "Minor". But if it can't find the path, that seems like a pretty big issue.

Any ideas?

[BoyScout]

Hmm...Interesting stuff here. I've been away from this forum for too long it seems....
Would one these tools let me, say, watch a (virtual) DVD that I have on the computer on my Tivo?

thx,
AK


Yes, it does. However, the VOBs show up as their actual name that they are saved on your PC. If you rename to something meaningful and combine them on the PC, you have something pretty useful.

[ciscokidinsf]

Allright!! New Project for me. I got my 24" Imac today. I shall embark on a new dangerous trip as I attempt to run Tivodotnet in both OS X (10.4, as my friend A@ron required, I'll send you the bill soon) and in Windows XP via Parallels. Let's see, so far:

- Wife got mad at the purchase, but its my B'day next week!
- Got the latest OSX update 10.4.9
- Installed Parallels latest build
- Installed Windows XP
- Got Mono
- Got Aaron's Pref Pane working
- Streaming an .avi to the Tivo as I type this. All seems well
- Installing MS Framework 2.0

More to come soon. I hope it works both ways:

To Do:

Try to run TDN pointing to a Samba Server Network Attached Storage
If that fails, connect via USB Drive (windows and Mac)

Long way to go, but the night is young. Wish me luck! Updates as I lose my sanity bit by bit in my quest.

Pipakin, whenever you are, thanks dude and I hope the water damage is fixed. We miss you!

A@ron, I bet $100 I'll be bugging you soon!

Update #1: 9.7 failed to install (the CAB error message) 9.1a seems to have installed. Plus no one tells you the right-click does NOT work in Windows using the Apple Mighty Mouse. I gotta figure it out.

Update #2: Windows shows TDN active, The webpage opens fine, the log shows the 2 test files, but the Windows TDN is not showing in the 'Now Playing' list... BUT, I have the Mac transferring a file right now, I wonder if the Tivo can only handle ONLY ONE instance of Tivodotnet at a time. I'll try later shutting down the Mac version and running the Windows one by itself tomorrow. Bummer, I was hoping to see the two connections hand by hand. Has anyone run two instances of TDN at at time, from different computers? (or maybe TDN is tied to IP address, and it would be only one address despite running Mac and Windows in parallels)

Update #3: As an aside My old G4, 10.3 Imac couldn't handle TivoDecodeManager, but now it works! Sweeet!

Update#4: No Joy (yet) The network went down last night. (IP conflict?) I lost a partial download completely from the Mac. This morning I installed TivoDesktop on Windows but it can't see the Tivos. Trying to open the connections within WIndows to the Tivos

[windracer]

Source Message
mscorlib Could not find a part of the path 'C:\Program Files\Pipkin Technologies\TiVo.Net\Videos'.
mscorlib Could not find a part of the path 'Z:\Archive\Video'.

The severity on both is "Minor". But if it can't find the path, that seems like a pretty big issue.

Any ideas?
Make sure you've got the trailing slash on each folder.

[A@ron]

A@ron, I bet $100 I'll be bugging you soon!


Don't bet money... your wife was already mad at you! :)
Good to hear that the mac side sounds like it's working without any problems. I'm not a windows guy but make sure you did the port forwarding in windows firewall that has been discussed multiple times. Let me know if you want to be a guinea pig for any other mac TivoMono things I've got going on. I may try to take KRKeegan's advice on how to fix the disappearing transfers issue and build that for mono. Shame pipakin didn't post the 0.9.7 SRC on source forge or all these invalid cab errors could have been fixed by a build from SRC and I could have the mac side on that version as well.

[ciscokidinsf]

Well, it got really stressed (Me dealing with Network issues is like a caveman staring at medical tools, ...I eventually figure it out, but is very ugly while I learn) And I didn't got it going until 20 minutes ago. (though I was out most of today)

But.....

We got liftoff!! (Not the Viagra kind) right now I got 2 TDN sessions running, one from Windows, One from Mac. :) God, I'm so Happy!! They are both working OK I hope (testing small videos right now) and they seem ok.

Yesterday, TivoToGo in Windows couldn't even see the Tivos. (I could ping them though) So I was baffled. I saw a couple of suggestions in the Paralells forums. Here is what I did (I'm not 100% sure which one did the trick) So try them all:

What I did was:

-Disable the 'Parallels Network Adapter' within Windows and add a new one to connect directly to the 'Realtek Network Adapter' that the Mac uses.

- Went to the Network properties within windows and check mark all sharing

- Firewall is off

-On The Paralells application menu VM Configuration I switched the Network Adapter status to 'Bridge Ethernet'

So after that, TivoToGo came back and correctly connected to the Tivos. Then TDN in Windows worked. Tempting the Gods, I ran the Mac version... and it all works! (I hope)

Problem is my network is so freakin' slow right now. I'm going to switch to ''g" (from b/g hybrid) speed tomorrow, I'll replace an older USB adapter in a laptop and I might be able to get more speed.

Next step will be to get the Network Storage attached to both systems. And see if I can run the directories from an external hard drive. (I will need help here for sure)

[windracer]

Next step will be to get the Network Storage attached to both systems. And see if I can run the directories from an external hard drive. (I will need help here for sure)
That should work just fine ... I have TDN running on a Linux machine and my Videos folder is on a Buffalo Linkstation which my Linux box sees as a Samba share.

[eldonjon72]

Did you have to do anything special in downloading that file? The downloaded alternative version is named ffmpeg.exe - and there are alot of other files there with it. Did you just rename the file to ffmpeg_mp2.exe & ignore the other files or was there more to it? I'm really wondering since the file sizes are so different.

[edit] dumb dumb dumb :rolleyes: I was looking at the file while it was still zipped - the files are exactly the same size unzipped.

[ciscokidinsf]

Is pipakin still MIA?

Just asking. Traffic around here is low. Where is the other Tivodotnet thread?

Something weird is going on with my network and the performance of different programs that communicate with the Tivos. TivoDotNet in Mac is running along at OK speed. I was hoping for faster processing compared to my old G4, but I guess the bottleneck is my network speed.

TivoToGo in parallels is so slow. Dunno why that is. One hour of content is taking all night. My puny laptop takes two hours to transfer on a b/g network.

However, TivoDecodeManager is also slow and so far has not completed a single transfer. Methinks due to potential legal issues against Roxio and their $100 Tivo software that TDM has been somewhat crippled. Although the website is very clear that for some users TDM would be incredible slow.

Also, I forgot my Tivo wireless adapters were the 'b' kind. I tracked the 'g' ones on ebay. They are hard to get as the USB D-Link DWL G122 has to be the older hardware version (version A) to work with the Tivos. If you buy the most recent one (Hardware version B) Tivo no longer supports that. (no drivers!) So I'll see if I gain some speed by going 'g' speed only on all my devices.

BING! Just had an idea... could we use TDN to send DRIVERS to the Tivo Box? (assuming of course that Tivo searches everyhere in the hard drives to get a driver, that way we could use any USB adapter available) ideas? comments?

[tadtadtadtadtad]

After running TDN-0.9.5a-fixed for a few weeks on WinXP SP2 It stopped working. So i figured I upgrade to the latest release TDN-0.9.7a-fixed. I get this error

The cabinet file '_C438E0DA6D445DFF3724A1ABED0663F4' required for this installation is corrupt and cannot be used. This could indicate a network error, an error reading from the CD-ROM, or a problem with this package.

And I have to cancel the install. So now neither installation works for me. Any ideas where I can look to solve my problem. Prior to all this the uploaded movies worked perfectly.

I tried to find this error in the thread but could not.

Tadtadtadtadtad

[windracer]

I tried to find this error in the thread but could not.
It's referenced quite a few times ... here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4952986&&#post4952986) and here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4966790&&#post4966790) are two quick examples I found.

Yes, this is a known issue with that "fixed" MSI. It was the last thing posted before pipakin disappeared so there has not been a newer release.

edit: nevermind, I see you found the thread over on the TDN forum.

[scott816]

Has anyone attempted to contact Philip outside of this forum? He did register a domain so a quick whois search I am sure would reveal some contact info. I am not sure if it would be appropriate to try and contact a person in the real world after interacting with them solely in forum. There sure is a big mystery here though. What happened to the TIVO.NET god? I know he had the flood but that was a long time ago. Just a thought.

[rjdafoe]

I am not sure that this has been specified before, I could not seem to find it in this thread, but I could have missed it.

Will this work on a zippered Direct Tivo? I am using 6.2 and used the patch script to upgrade to 6.3.


On google, I have found references to HMO enabled on 6.2 of these units, but I have also found references that it is not.

Thanks

[ajayabb]

Tivodot Net is stuck on a transfer. when I attempt to transfer a show to my S2 is says that a transfer is in progress and It will add the transfer to the TO DO list; yet never does. I restarted TIVo and reinstalled TIVO dot Net all to no avail.

[windracer]

Will this work on a zippered Direct Tivo? I am using 6.2 and used the patch script to upgrade to 6.3.
No. You only have HMO and TiVo.Net requires HME, which is only in version 7.x of the software and higher.

[windracer]

Tivodot Net is stuck on a transfer. when I attempt to transfer a show to my S2 is says that a transfer is in progress and It will add the transfer to the TO DO list; yet never does.
Anything in the log? Sounds like maybe ffmpeg is having a problem ...

[ourdoc]

Tivodot Net is stuck on a transfer. when I attempt to transfer a show to my S2 is says that a transfer is in progress and It will add the transfer to the TO DO list; yet never does. I restarted TIVo and reinstalled TIVO dot Net all to no avail.

Are you on Vista? I know on mine if I don't change the binding address to the IP address instead of the address like fe80::d4a0:fd2d:d155:d1f3%3 I got that problem, after selecting the IP it was fine. This has to be done each time the service is started. I think it is something to do with IPv6.. not sure, not a coder here :)

[rjdafoe]

No. You only have HMO and TiVo.Net requires HME, which is only in version 7.x of the software and higher.

Thanks, thats too bad, I am looking for something that could replace TivoServer and was hoping this would be it. Oh Well.

[wrg]

Try over at his forum http://www.satellite-of-love.org/


Has anyone attempted to contact Philip outside of this forum? He did register a domain so a quick whois search I am sure would reveal some contact info. I am not sure if it would be appropriate to try and contact a person in the real world after interacting with them solely in forum. There sure is a big mystery here though. What happened to the TIVO.NET god? I know he had the flood but that was a long time ago. Just a thought.

[ciscokidinsf]

Hey A@ron, this is how I mapped the Netwrok Storage in my mac :

smb://Fjgnas/SHARE/TivoTDN/

However, if I add this to the TDN diredtory location app, it fails. (and as usual, I CANNOT find it in terminal) Help, please?

Also, FYI. I haven't been abel to connect TivoToGo to the attached storage either. There is another thread here in the forums that says that my specific type of NAS (Buffalo Terastaion) is kinda hinky and cannot be the depository of videos using TivoDesktop.

[eldonjon72]

I've had the same problem, the only way I've been able to unstick it is to go into the To Do list on the Tivo, make sure all transfers are cancelled/deleted, then reboot the Tivo.

It seems to only happen when you cancel a transfer before it is finished transferring. (and never, EVER cancel a transfer from within the program on the PC! Guaranteed to monkey it up like this).

[Leo Valiant]

I think we should give the guy his privacy. If he wanted to be here he would.

[windracer]

Sounds like a good idea to me...I'm just too chicken to do it - but I'll provide the info!
Maybe you should edit that out ... it might be publicly available but I doubt he'd want it posted here like that.

[windracer]

There is another thread here in the forums that says that my specific type of NAS (Buffalo Terastaion) is kinda hinky and cannot be the depository of videos using TivoDesktop.
Well, I'm not using a Mac, but I am running TDN on Linux and all of my videos are on a Buffalo Linkstation (250gb) running the OpenLink (http://linkstationwiki.net/index.php?title=Category:OpenLink) firmware ... and using the samba share works just fine. You should be able to just put '/Fjgnas/SHARE/TivoTDN/' in your videos path.

[A@ron]

Hey A@ron, this is how I mapped the Netwrok Storage in my mac :

smb://Fjgnas/SHARE/TivoTDN/

However, if I add this to the TDN diredtory location app, it fails. (and as usual, I CANNOT find it in terminal) Help, please?


If it mounts on the side bar of a Finder window like most SMB shares and external drives, iDisk, etc... it would be under /Volumes/TivoTDN/ or whatever name it mounts with on the side. Basically look in the /Volumes/ area :)

Try that.

[ciscokidinsf]

Arrrgghhh!!!

Dunno why, but the stupid NAS has a smi-colon in its name, so the TDN app for Mac cannot read the name: Here is what terminal showed:


computer-2:~ fjguerrero$ ls -l /Volumes/
total 44
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 1 Mar 23 01:15 Macintosh HD -> /
drwx------ 1 fjguerre admin 16384 Mar 23 05:25 WORKGROUP;FJGNAS
drwxrwxrwx 1 fjguerre fjguerre 2048 Mar 23 01:37 fjguerrero


This stupid NAS is driving me insane. It won't work with TivoDesktop and Mac is giving me grief.

[windracer]

Can you just rename the NAS? It's a Buffalo, right? You should be able to do that through the web interface.

[ciscokidinsf]

The name in my buffalo is 'FJGNAS' but it mounts in the Mac as 'WORKGROUP;FJGNAS' with the semi-colon there. A@ron's Pref Pane for the Mac uses semicolons to break the directories.

[windracer]

Since the Mac is running Unix, what if you made a symbolic link (i.e., shortcut) elsewhere, pointing to the /Volumes/WORKGROUP;FJGNAS? Then you could reference the symbolic link in TiVo.Net and see if that works?

[A@ron]

The name in my buffalo is 'FJGNAS' but it mounts in the Mac as 'WORKGROUP;FJGNAS' with the semi-colon there. A@ron's Pref Pane for the Mac uses semicolons to break the directories.

It's not that my prefpane uses semi-colons to separate additional directories it's that TiVo.Net and TivoMono uses them to separate additional directories... :rolleyes:

Shame I don't have your NAS drive... I use a ximeta one and it works fine with TiVo.Net and was only like $45.

You could mount it through the terminal window:
mount_smbfs -W workgroup //user@SERVER/folder ./mntpoint

This way you can call it whatever you want when it mounts sans semi-colon.
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20020610225855377

[ciscokidinsf]

Thanks guys. Maybe I'm almost there. I tried this one, which seemed to work, except that the Finder cannot find the newly created volume

francisco-guerreros-computer-2:/Volumes fjguerrero$ mount_smbfs //admin@Fjgnas/share /Volumes/Share
Password:
francisco-guerreros-computer-2:/Volumes fjguerrero$ ls
Macintosh HD Share
francisco-guerreros-computer-2:/Volumes fjguerrero$
francisco-guerreros-computer-2:/Volumes fjguerrero$ mount_smbfs //admin@Fjgnas/share /Volumes/Share
Password:
francisco-guerreros-computer-2:/Volumes fjguerrero$ ls
Macintosh HD Share
francisco-guerreros-computer-2:/Volumes fjguerrero$ cd Share
francisco-guerreros-computer-2:/Volumes/Share fjguerrero$ ls
AV-Files The Boondocks - Archos Tivo Files
Movie Files Tivo TivoTDN



It looks all cool. I didn't know I had to restart 'Finder' to get the volume to show and mount. After then it found the volume. I placed the 'good' directory in the TDN app and I placed a small file in there and I am testing it right now. Cross your fingers.

ETA: It frakkin' works!!! YAY! I can free up 50 gigs from the desktop into the NAS I hope.

A@ron beers are on me dude. Thanks to Windracer as well.

[saberman]

The name in my buffalo is 'FJGNAS' but it mounts in the Mac as 'WORKGROUP;FJGNAS' with the semi-colon there. A@ron's Pref Pane for the Mac uses semicolons to break the directories.

This may or may not be relevent but I have a WD NAS device and the way it shows up when browsing from a Windows XP machine is in workgroup "WORKGROUP".

When browsing from a Linspire (Linux) box it shows up under:
Entire Network
WORKGROUP
WD-NETCENTER WD-NetCenter
Config
Shared Files

Since most hardware is setup to be Microsoft compatible the buffalo box may also be setup to be in a workgroup called "WORKGROUP".

This advice may be worth what you paid for it -- nothing.

[MichaelK]

for someone illiterate- come someone aim me to the spot where I can manually change the output settings? I want to do some experimenting.

[ciscokidinsf]

MichaelK, that would be the link labeled 'ffmpeg' in the latest version of TDN. (the left hand side of the page) You can change your output settings there, although there aren't that many options.

[MichaelK]

thanks- off to fiddle....

[cdf12345]

here's a puzzler.

remember before I said i found files that were showing up as 0:00 long?

Well, I have tivo.net running on a PC and my laptop. My laptop is Windows XP Media Edition, and my PC is XP Pro.

I put one of the video files that were showing up as 0:00 on both computers in the Tivo.net shared directory..... and guess what?

The Tivo's see the correct length on the tivo.net server running on my laptop, and see 0:00 on the XP Pro machine.

What the heck does this mean?

(I've done this with several of the files i have had problems with and it's all the same.)

[pufftissue]

I have a cabinet file error that says it can not find or it's corrupted when intsalling.

What is the fix? I saw some others reference the problem, but is there a solution? Do I need to reformat my computer or does it have something to do with the wrong .net version?

I have version 3 and 2

[windracer]

It's a problem with the installer, not your PC. I believe your only option (on Windows) is to go back to an earlier release.

[ScaryMike]

Just a thought...since TiVo Desktop sees the IP addys of the various TiVos on the network, is there a way TiVo.Net can see those IPs, and then we can assign different aspect ratios to an IP? I've got one TiVo on a 4:3 and another on a 16:9, and this would solve all sorts of problems....


This is a great idea. I also have one 16:9tv and one 4:3tv. Just seconding the request for this feature, assuming Mr. Pipkin ever comes back.


-Mike

[joebar]

It's a problem with the installer, not your PC. I believe your only option (on Windows) is to go back to an earlier release.

That fixed it for me. Thanks!

[Deadpan Science]

So I'm running 0.9.7a [.Net], and I'm having a problem with transferred videos not showing up in the now playing list. What version should I go back to?

[ciscokidinsf]

0.9.5a seems to be very stable, very few complaints. Though I am a chicken and have stayed on 0.9.1a and it seems to be rock solid. Give that a try.

[ourdoc]

Been using 0.9.1a here, the only problem is having to refresh it so that TiVo see's it to setup the transfers. After you set them up it seems to work great.

[ScaryMike]

Is there a way to get the Tivo desktop to still serve up photos and mp3s (music photos and more), but not show a server on the now playing list? Now that I'm using tivo.net, I no longer need that server listed, but still want to be able to use the photo features of tivo desktop.

[CuriousMark]

Is there a way to get the Tivo desktop to still serve up photos and mp3s (music photos and more), but not show a server on the now playing list? Now that I'm using tivo.net, I no longer need that server listed, but still want to be able to use the photo features of tivo desktop.
Just empty out the My TiVo Recordings folder on the PC.

[ciscokidinsf]

Mystery solved! What Pipakin has been up to these days! See below:

http://www.cnettv.com/9710-1_53-26870.html

(hehe happy fools day!) :)

But seriously, I do hope Pipakin resurfaces soon.

[ScaryMike]

This is from Pipakin's lovely wife via myspace:


"Thanks for your concern-- it will gratify him to know that people have noticed he's gone missing. He's certainly fine, but work has been taking up a rather overlarge chunk of his time. I'll pressure him to at least stop by and let people know that he's alive.

Have a good weekend!
-sarah "

[windracer]

Excellent! :up:

[MichaelK]

damn that whole needing to pay the bills thing....

[pcbguy]

Okay. I have tried to install 4 different versions. I get the corrupt cab with 0.9.7a.

I also tried 0.9.1, 0.9.5, and 0.9.6 and I get an error that says "The installer has encountered an unexpected error installing this package. This may indicate a problem with this package. The error code is 2869."

I have Vista Home Premium on my laptop. I read that this should work with Vista.

Any help is appreciated.

[pcbguy]

Fixed it. Disabled the UAC and tried the 0.9.6 and it installed. Just had to read a bit more.

[vasilemj]

I also am getting a corrupt cab with 0.9.7a-fixed.msi

[windracer]

That's a known problem. You'll need to try an older version.

[Grimm1]

Maybe if he got a flood of $5 donations that would get his attention. I don't think anyone here could argue that having this feature added to their TiVo isn't worth at least a one-time $5 donation if not more.

http://sourceforge.net/donate/index.php?group_id=187185

[pcbguy]

Fixed it. Disabled the UAC and tried the 0.9.6 and it installed. Just had to read a bit more.


Never mind! It still wouldn't work. It installed but wouldn't do anything.

[Grimm1]

I had problems getting it to work at first too. It would not stay binded to my PC's address. I ended up uninstalling IPv6 (I think that's what it was called) and that fixed my problem.

[Swervo]

I just had the latest update hit my Tivo today, and now Tivo dawt Net doesn't work quite right if I have multiple folders. Once I go into one folder, then I get that listing for every folder I've got. For instance, if I go into my generic car show folder, then back out and go to my generic comedy show folder, the generic comedy show folder shows all the files from the generic car show folder. The main folder still shows the right files, but all subfolders show the contents of the first subfolder I chose. Stopping and restarting the service resets this, as does rebooting the tivo, but once I choose one subfolder, I'm stuck.

I'm using 0.9.5a, 0.9.6 doesn't seem to want to work for me, and 0.9.7 has the corrupted CAB. Anyone else seeing this, or know of a workaround?

In the meantime, I've got a lot of experience with open source software and I'm moving into a dawt Net developer role at work (I've been developing for years in other languages), so I'll see what I can figure out for it as well.

Just in case, apologies for "dawt", but I'm being filtered on the "URL" thing. That filter could use some regex tweaking...

[Grimm1]

I just had the latest update hit my Tivo today, and now Tivo dawt Net doesn't work quite right if I have multiple folders. Once I go into one folder, then I get that listing for every folder I've got. For instance, if I go into my generic car show folder, then back out and go to my generic comedy show folder, the generic comedy show folder shows all the files from the generic car show folder. The main folder still shows the right files, but all subfolders show the contents of the first subfolder I chose. Stopping and restarting the service resets this, as does rebooting the tivo, but once I choose one subfolder, I'm stuck.Does the same thing to me. I can usually clear it by going back out to the NPL and selecting a recorded show so that I can see the shows description etc. When I back out and go back onto tivo.net it seems to clear it so that I can list the contents of another folder.

[dragonlord666]

well I tried downloading this from surgeforce three times using the windows installer and all I get is that a cab file is corrupt and it cannot be used - guess I won't be using this to upload files to my tivo.

BUT thanks for trying.


Gaz

[greg_burns]

well I tried downloading this from surgeforce three times using the windows installer and all I get is that a cab file is corrupt and it cannot be used - guess I won't be using this to upload files to my tivo.

BUT thanks for trying.


Gaz

Post #1208 (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5038618&&#post5038618)

[dragonlord666]

Thanks Greg, I had a look around but kept getting either bogged down in the posts or sidetracked onto threads which are not what I'm looking for.

Gaz

[ScaryMike]

Until the developer returns, I highly suggest you all check out PyTivo. Its a bit more challangeing to set up, but it works like a charm. I've been using it for a few weeks and I'm really happy with it.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=328459&page=1&pp=30

[turnipsun]

Well, it looks like TiVo 8.3 update has killed my subfolders in tivo.net.
All my files are in perfectly organized subfolders, and even more folders from that..

So sadly, with the 8.3 update, it has KILLED tivo.net for me..

I am sure everyone with the update is having the same problem.

I really hope someone can figure out a fix soon.. its been 2 days without tivo.net, and I am already having withdrawls..

so good luck to whoever is working on a fix..

thanks

[Bsteenson]

Ack! Came home tonight to find new TiVo software on all three S2's and now I'm having the same folder problems as described. I can get to all my folders by backing out of the folder I want to be in (but that is displaying as another folder entirely), then going into the download screen of a file not in a folder, then backing out of that (without downloading) and I end up in the folder I wanted in the first place. Hardly an elegant solution, but at least I can get the files I need eventually.

This program has increased by enjoyment of TiVo two-fold. Please, please, one of you programmer gurus, find a way to get us back at least to where we were before the TiVo software update.

[morac]

The issue with the subfolders is a result of a change made in the TiVo software which is now causing the TiVo to request to files in both the correct and wrong folders in some cases. This really should be fixed on TiVo's end, but I'm not holding my breath on that. A work around could be made on the PC end, but it gets tricky since it would be up to the program to figure out what is and isn't a valid request from the TiVo.

It's doable, but not trivial. Unfortunately of the 3 programs affected, only pyTiVo is still being worked on. Galleon was abandoned and Pipakin is still MIA. Fortunately both Galleon and TiVo.Net are open source (on Sourceforge) so if someone wants to they can update them.

TiVo.Net is also still missing the update to fix the problem with the transfer being deleted since the solution to that was found after Pipakin disappeared.

[Stu_Bee]

Is it the Sub-Sub Folders causing the issue?
I transferred a couple files using Tivo.net yesterday (I have 8.3) and didn't notice any issue.

My files are all in subfolders off the root where tivo.net is looking.

[Enrique]

Is it the Sub-Sub Folders causing the issue?
I transferred a couple files using Tivo.net yesterday (I have 8.3) and didn't notice any issue.

My files are all in subfolders off the root where tivo.net is looking.
No I have Sub Folders and i still get the same thing.

[Stu_Bee]

Enrique: Meaning you get an error...or it works ok?
Maybe the difference is I always hit the Tivo button to get back to Now Playing after starting a transfer. (Rather than left arrowing out)

[Enrique]

Enrique: Meaning you get an error...or it works ok?
Maybe the difference is I always hit the Tivo button to get back to Now Playing after starting a transfer. (Rather than left arrowing out)I get no error when i try to go it to a sub folder it just pops me back out.

[comandercody]

windracer:

I just cicked on your "My Season Passes". And I have to say, I'm impressed. Do you really watch all that *****?? And how do you "link" to your season passes to a web page?? I have 2 series 2 Tivos, den and bedroom, and I see that you "double up" on some of your fav's, just as I do. Thanks fo sharing, and also, thanks for all your posts, I have been a long time "lurker", and have read many, many of your post which have been most helpful in the past.

[windracer]

Glad I've been helpful. :D

The "web page" of my Season Passes is just an Excel spreadsheet that I manually maintain. Nothing fancy, no magic.

I do eventually watch most of that stuff, but looking at that list always reminds me that it's probably too much (and my wife would agree with that, I'm sure). Though as you pointed out, a lot of it is doubled up, just in case one box misses it. Have the dual-tuner S3 has really helped in that regard, though.

[Stu_Bee]

I get no error when i try to go it to a sub folder it just pops me back out.

Ahh..I see the issue occuring now. But the symptoms on mine is to display the video names in the first folder entered on every subsequent folder entered.

The way I kinda circumvent it (and the reason I didn't see it at first), is I use the Select button to choose the video rather than arrowing right.

[mandms7]

Sorry to ask a bonehead question, but does TiVo.net support playing .tivo files (files I transferred from my TiVo to my PC)? My PC is showing up in the Now Playing List, but its not showing any of my TiVo recordings that are in my video folder.

[windracer]

It's supposed to, but .tivo isn't an extension listed by default in the Admin page.

I haven't tried in a while, but way back when, I tried adding .tivo and ran into problems. You can give it a shot ... it's supposed to be smart enough to not transcode .tivo files.

[rdrrepair]

I downloaded this app a couple of days ago. I can see the TiVo.Net in my now playing list. I can see my videos in the folder. When I click on the video it shows up in the "ToDo List" but never downloads.

I had this problem with my UnBoxOnDemand and I had to place the file https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=187185 into the lib folder to get it to work.

Do I need to download the same file I linked above into the TiVo.net folder?

Can I point the TiVo.net to the files that are now dumped into the UnBox folder?

Should I place the above linked files into it's own area and point both apps to it?

Does it matter-what is better? Other options?

When all is said and done. Will the videos be grouped in one folder if I have folders on, in the "NOW PLAYING" area?

I posted this at the TiVo.Net forum yesterday but have not gotten an answer.

[Grimm1]

Sorry to ask a bonehead question, but does TiVo.net support playing .tivo files (files I transferred from my TiVo to my PC)? My PC is showing up in the Now Playing List, but its not showing any of my TiVo recordings that are in my video folder.I don't think so....I think it's only for transferring video that also needs to be transcoded.

[windracer]

When I click on the video it shows up in the "ToDo List" but never downloads.
Anything in Tivo.Net's error log?

Do I need to download the same file I linked above into the TiVo.net folder?
That link just goes to the general TiVo.Net download page on SF. What file are you referring to, ffmpeg? You only need one copy of ffmpeg on your machine, you can just point unboxOnDemand and TiVo.Net to the same executable in their respective configuration files.

Can I point the TiVo.net to the files that are now dumped into the UnBox folder?
Sure, that's what I do. I disabled unboxOnDemand's video server and just use TiVo.Net (or pyTiVo) to transfer the video previews back to my TiVo.

[Berndh]

I get the following error when trying to run the installer.
The cabinet file _C438E)DA6D445Dff3724A1AbeD0663F4 required for this installation is corrupt and cannot be used. This could indicate a network error, an error reading from the CD-ROM or a problem with this package.

Please Help,

Bernd

[greg_burns]

I get the following error when trying to run the installer.
The cabinet file _C438E)DA6D445Dff3724A1AbeD0663F4 required for this installation is corrupt and cannot be used. This could indicate a network error, an error reading from the CD-ROM or a problem with this package.

Please Help,

Bernd


Post #1216 (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5067687&&#post5067687)

[rdrrepair]

I can see me videos. I can go to >TiVo.Net Administration>File manager>place a checkmark next to the video in the Administration page>update... At that point the server stops and needs to be restarted.

It looks like a great app... I just wish I could make heads or tails on this thing.

Maybe another program might work better? I would like to give this one the go ahead because I don't like to give up on anything. But, if this is too problematic...
Anything in Tivo.Net's error log?-----Error logs. This one I have 7 times.

The specified network name is no longer available - at System.Net.HttpResponseStream.Dispose(Boolean disposing) at System.IO.Stream.Close() at System.IO.StreamWriter.Dispose(Boolean disposing) at System.IO.StreamWriter.Close() at TiVoDotNetBase.TivoDotNet.ParseVideoUrl(String url, HttpListenerContext con, ContainerItem ci) at TiVoDotNetBase.TivoDotNet.ContextCallback(IAsyncResult ar)

-----and I have this once.

Result cannot be called on a failed Match. - at System.Text.RegularExpressions.Match.Result(String replacement) at TiVoDotNetBase.ffmpegTranscoder.GetFileVideoSize(Int32& x, Int32& y, Boolean& noTranscode, String filePath) at TiVoDotNetBase.ffmpegTranscoder.GetFileAspectOptions(String aspect, String filePath, Boolean correctAspect, Boolean disableNoTrans) at TiVoDotNetBase.ffmpegTranscoder.OutputFile(String filePath, String saveFilePath, Boolean save, Stream outputStream, TransferStatus ts, Boolean correctAspect) at TiVoDotNetBase.VideoFileItem.OutputVideo(HttpListenerContext con, TransferStatus ts) at TiVoDotNetBase.TivoDotNet.ParseVideoUrl(String url, HttpListenerContext con, ContainerItem ci) at TiVoDotNetBase.TivoDotNet.ContextCallback(IAsyncResult ar)

After I cleared my error logs the the system does not shutdown. It will stay running but the videos still will not transfer - they are in the "To Do List"

[rdrrepair]

I shutdown and restarted - I now have this in my error logs

ParseVideoUrl Unknown File: /Video/GetVideo?ID=ee9483f9-51f5-4669-ac4f-f4a4bb7c3b1d Minor Error
ParseVideoUrl Unknown File: /Video/GetVideo?ID=cfd74987-998d-48e2-907b-9bbb76875da1 Minor Error
ParseVideoUrl Unknown File: /Video/GetVideo?ID=edc31bb3-d28c-413e-87e0-079e899bf0f3 Minor Error

[greg_burns]

The specified network name is no longer available - at System.Net.HttpResponseStream.Dispose(Boolean disposing) at System.IO.Stream.Close() at System.IO.StreamWriter.Dispose(Boolean disposing) at System.IO.StreamWriter.Close() at TiVoDotNetBase.TivoDotNet.ParseVideoUrl(String url, HttpListenerContext con, ContainerItem ci) at TiVoDotNetBase.TivoDotNet.ContextCallback(IAsyncResult ar)

Not sure if the one is due to space issues or not.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4953664&&#post4953664

[ciscokidinsf]

Bummer. I'm gone for a week and all hell breaks loose. Yep, I got the Tivo update and it messed up my setup as well, though the get in-and-out of the desired folder works most of the time. I wish tivo would ASK before doing the updates. Has anyone else figured out a workaround?

[Stu_Bee]

Well, I wouldn't fault Tivo for this one, since the developer of this app went MIA a while ago and hasn't provided any updates. 'course the source code is there for some savy folks to play with.
I do think Tivo should offer beta versions to their developer community so that they can code/prepare for any upcoming changes.

As for an ugly workaround. I select a file (if displayed incorrectly), go out of the folder, and back in again...then I can select the correct file.

[Interactive]

I am clearly less experienced with this type of topic than most people here...so I'll admit I'm a bit confused. What does Tivo.Net do that the new Tivo Desktop 2.4 release can't? I see that this thread began BEFORE Desktop 2.4 was pre-launched so maybe it's a timing thing...and maybe (as some have already suggested) that has something to do with the sudden departure of the OP.

I'd like to be able to stream various movie formats to my Tivo S2 and don't want to need a programming background to acomplish this feat. Am I better off just sticking with 2.4 and paying the $25 fee to upgrade to PLUS?

[Stu_Bee]

I am clearly less experienced with this type of topic than most people here...so I'll admit I'm a bit confused. What does Tivo.Net do that the new Tivo Desktop 2.4 release can't?

Tivo.net converts divx/avi's. I don't think Tivodesktop does this format.

[windracer]

What does Tivo.Net do that the new Tivo Desktop 2.4 release can't?
- it converts a wider variety of video formats
- it runs on Linux and Mac
- it's free

[Grimm1]

- it converts a wider variety of video formats
- it runs on Linux and Mac
- it's freeIt's FREE....but definitely worth at least a $5 donation as-is and as a carrot to get pipakin interested in continuing this project...in my opinion.


http://sourceforge.net/donate/index.php?group_id=187185

[windracer]

But of course ... I donated back in January. :cool:

[rdrrepair]

I'm sorry - I just now, gave up - very little support from the author - It seemed (past tense) like a nice program but the hassles far outweighed the benefit - :(

I wish the rest of you success and maybe when someone figures out the problem and/or if the author gets back into it I'll give it another go - :o

Man, I really hate giving up on anything. :confused:

Thanks to all who tried to help me. :up:

[Grimm1]

But of course ... I donated back in January. :cool: Cool :up: ...I made a small donation in March and talking about it here has motivated me to make another small one this month. Hope others here will do the same.

[Grimm1]

I shutdown and restarted - I now have this in my error logs

ParseVideoUrl Unknown File: /Video/GetVideo?ID=ee9483f9-51f5-4669-ac4f-f4a4bb7c3b1d Minor Error
ParseVideoUrl Unknown File: /Video/GetVideo?ID=cfd74987-998d-48e2-907b-9bbb76875da1 Minor Error
ParseVideoUrl Unknown File: /Video/GetVideo?ID=edc31bb3-d28c-413e-87e0-079e899bf0f3 Minor ErrorWhat video format are you trying to transfer?

[rdrrepair]

What video format are you trying to transfer?.WMV is what I was trying to transfer.

[windracer]

Maybe try the --verbose command-line switch? That will dump more info into the logs.

Do you have ffmpeg installed and have the proper location to it in your config?