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Kevdog
01-10-2007, 06:12 PM
A few very modest details about the plot.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20007719,00.html

Langree
01-10-2007, 06:16 PM
The more I read the more it scares me.

tivoboyjr
01-10-2007, 06:21 PM
Actually, I think he's producing rather than directing.

I hear the Enterprise crashes on a mysterious island.

Jeeters
01-10-2007, 07:32 PM
Greg Gunberg will make a good redshirt.

IndyJones1023
01-10-2007, 07:49 PM
This is pretty old news, isn't it?

MickeS
01-10-2007, 08:36 PM
"Mission: Impossible 3" was a great action movie, so I have high hopes. And yeah, it's pretty old news.

HackManDan
01-10-2007, 08:43 PM
''For people who've never seen it or know it vaguely, I think they will enjoy it equally, because the movie does not require you to know anything about Star Trek. I would actually prefer [that] people don't know the series, because I feel like they will come to it with an open mind.''

In other words, this movie won't heed to canon, and will be Trek in name only.

willbhome
01-10-2007, 11:21 PM
I thought I'd read some months ago that JJ Abrams & co. had decided to NOT do anything involving the Kirk & Spock characters. Perhaps that's why he neither confirmed nor denied the rumor repeated in the article referenced above - to keep everyone guessing.

dylking
01-10-2007, 11:25 PM
that it will focus on the young, post-Starfleet Academy days of James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock

ummm. that would be annoying, since Spock was Pike's First Officer for quite a while. You'd have to have two stories going at the same time, and that doesn't work well in the movies. In books, sure.

Unless...like you say, it's going to be a non-canon movie, then all bets are off, and it probably wouldn't be that appealing to this die hard Trekker.

edc
01-10-2007, 11:34 PM
''For people who've never seen it or know it vaguely, I think they will enjoy it equally, because the movie does not require you to know anything about Star Trek. I would actually prefer [that] people don't know the series, because I feel like they will come to it with an open mind.''

In other words, this movie won't heed to canon, and will be Trek in name only.

You omitted the first part of the quote:

''On the one hand, for people who love Star Trek, the fix that they will get will be really satisfying,''

While there might be some alteration of minutae, Abrams has made clear this film is *not* a reboot, and will fit into the continuity of (at least) the original series and TNG.

LoadStar
01-10-2007, 11:37 PM
that it will focus on the young, post-Starfleet Academy days of James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock

ummm. that would be annoying, since Spock was Pike's First Officer for quite a while. You'd have to have two stories going at the same time, and that doesn't work well in the movies. In books, sure.

Unless...like you say, it's going to be a non-canon movie, then all bets are off, and it probably wouldn't be that appealing to this die hard Trekker.

It has never been confirmed that Spock was Pike's first officer. All we know is that Spock served aboard the Enterprise under Pike's command. Based on Spock's relative immaturity in "The Cage"/"The Menagerie," it's possible that Spock was NOT first officer, and was in fact an ensign or cadet at that point.

According to the "Star Trek Chronology" (non-canon, but based on canon sources) they conjecture that Spock is 3 years older than Kirk (Spock born in 2230, a year after Sarek and Amanda were married; Kirk born in 2233). They then conjecture that Spock served under Pike on a training cruise, much as Kirk served on the U.S.S. Republic while in the academy.

They then conjecture out that Spock graduated from the academy in 2253, and Kirk graduated in 2254.

The fact that they can make the dates, conjecture as they might be, work out like this means it's not entirely farfetched to have them in the academy at the same time.

dylking
01-11-2007, 12:09 AM
It has never been confirmed that Spock was Pike's first officer.
ok, you got me there. I was thinking of the recent novel series, Crucible.

Still, I got the impression from "Where No Man Has Gone Before" that they were just learning to work together, rather than having worked together for some time before being assigned to the Enterprise.

Maybe that was a flaw of the episode, or maybe it's a flaw of my memory. I haven't rewatched that ep in ages.

JYoung
01-11-2007, 03:50 AM
It has never been confirmed that Spock was Pike's first officer. All we know is that Spock served aboard the Enterprise under Pike's command. Based on Spock's relative immaturity in "The Cage"/"The Menagerie," it's possible that Spock was NOT first officer, and was in fact an ensign or cadet at that point.

According to the "Star Trek Chronology" (non-canon, but based on canon sources) they conjecture that Spock is 3 years older than Kirk (Spock born in 2230, a year after Sarek and Amanda were married; Kirk born in 2233). They then conjecture that Spock served under Pike on a training cruise, much as Kirk served on the U.S.S. Republic while in the academy.

They then conjecture out that Spock graduated from the academy in 2253, and Kirk graduated in 2254.

The fact that they can make the dates, conjecture as they might be, work out like this means it's not entirely farfetched to have them in the academy at the same time.

If you refer back to the original Bible, Lieutenant Spock was the Second Officer under Pike.
Evidence of this is shown by how he was in charge after both Captain Pike and Number One were captured.
Certainly, a reasonable position for a 23 or 24 year old Vulcan early in his Starfleet career.

ruexp67
01-11-2007, 08:42 AM
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/86/pics/86hgetalife1.jpg

GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a TV show! I mean, look at you, look at the way you're dressed! You've turned an enjoyable little job, that I did as a lark for a few years, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME!


:D Sorry, couldn't resist.

jlb
01-11-2007, 10:14 AM
Let's go one better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMgBPogArbw&mode=related&search=

I forgot about Dana Carvey's "I Grock Spock" t-shirt. That was a hoot!

Fahtrim
01-11-2007, 01:14 PM
If JJ Abrams directs it, it will suck.

IndyJones1023
01-11-2007, 01:16 PM
If JJ Abrams directs it, it will suck.
:confused:

Why would you say that? He does good work.

LoadStar
01-11-2007, 01:43 PM
:confused:

Why would you say that? He does good work.

Agreed. "Alias" didn't start to suck until after he left the show (sort of like how "Buffy" started to suck once Marti Noxon took over from Joss... and whenever Joss came back, you could tell instantly, because everything was just so much better.)

Fahtrim
01-11-2007, 04:09 PM
Agreed. "Alias" didn't start to suck until after he left the show (sort of like how "Buffy" started to suck once Marti Noxon took over from Joss... and whenever Joss came back, you could tell instantly, because everything was just so much better.)
Alias I liked at first, then realized he had nowhere to go, same with Lost, same with stupid MI3

He used the friggin Rembaldi artifact idea/Hanso project idea and just did the same general thing on MI3, still didn't give any answers. Yeah I get it life and death is a mystery. He still sucks as a storyteller.

LoadStar
01-11-2007, 06:40 PM
Alias I liked at first, then realized he had nowhere to go, same with Lost, same with stupid MI3

He used the friggin Rembaldi artifact idea/Hanso project idea and just did the same general thing on MI3, still didn't give any answers. Yeah I get it life and death is a mystery. He still sucks as a storyteller.

Well, I still don't know that you can hold Alias against him... ABC meddled with the series so much that it seems he eventually just gave up and left it for others to deal with... and it was ABC that wanted an elimination of the Rambaldi plotline, because they thought it was too complicated for Joe Sixpack to get.

Kevdog
01-11-2007, 08:25 PM
If JJ Abrams directs it, it will suck.

Whether he directs or just produces, does anyone think he can't do a better job than the not-so-dynamic duo of Berman and Braga?

byte_me123
01-11-2007, 09:05 PM
[QUOTE=HackManDan]''people don't know the series[/I], because I feel like they will come to it with an open mind.''


"Open mind" about what, an old TV show???

Hunter Green
01-12-2007, 03:35 PM
did the same general thing on MI3, still didn't give any answers.
Trivial MI3 spoiler: Do you mean that we never found out what the Rabbit's Foot was? Because that's the only thing that we didn't get answered that I can think of. Sure, you can miss the point (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin) if you like, but really, how could you actually get upset about that? It's so nothing. Or is there something else you felt went unanswered?