House "Words and Deeds" 1/9/2007

[WinBear]

House is back!

I'm so glad to see the end of this Tritter storyline! It completely sucked the life and humor out of the show.

This episode had some great moments in both the A & B story. I was a little surprised at the twist in the courtroom and then the 2nd and 3rd twists after that. I was really hoping House's rehab to have a little more meaning and longevity, however, I know the reality is that most addicts don't kick the habit on the first attempt.

[dswallow]

Hallelujah. Goodbye Tritter.

House is no more an addict for needing the vicodin for his pain than the rest of us are addicts for needing oxygen to breathe.

[ElJay]

Thank goodness!! Bye bye Tritter.

I hope this show can get back to being a bit more amusing now. I agree with WinBear: Almost all of the humor seems to have drained out of it with this detour.

[wmm_16]

Pretty good epp.

[Idearat]

House survived despite having a sucky laywer.

Walking out of the courtroom to save the life of a patient, then walking back to face the consequences are not the actions of a person putting patients at risk. The patient's needs were being put first.

Funny, the judge's voice getting screetchy was a clue House used to help the patient. He wasn't insulting her, just pondering out loud.

Why did House forge the log? He was in serious pain and the cop extorted everyone around him to prevent them from giving him medication. A starving man will steal bread, a man in agony will steal pills. We missed the lawyer saying that.

[spikedavis]

I liked when House was on the phone and the pissed off judge told Tritter to be quiet and House said "Thank you, your honor!"

[mmilton80]

Broken Heart disease, huh

[TheDewAddict]

This was the first full episode I've watched of this show. I kept hearing great things about it. I've seen probably 5 minutes here, and 10 minutes there, but I've never watched the full show. I'll give it a few more episodes. Is the next new episode 3 weeks away?

Is this a show I need to go back and start from the beginning to understand?

[cheerdude]

Dew - Since the Tritter part is "done", you don't really need to go back to the beginning? However, the past episodes are good...

I say that Tritter is "done" since I still think that he will be either a) watching him... or b) will have a medical emergency (not just another Clinic visit) and need his help.

[balboa dave]

Is this a show I need to go back and start from the beginning to understand?You really don't need to see them to understand anything, but there are many great episodes that are worth catching. There's repeats on USA already.

What you should know, however, is that the House character is roughly based on Sherlock Holmes. Each episode is usually based on one major medical mystery (which despite many viewers complaints, are based on real cases), with several usually comical interactions in the clinic, where he often deduces illnesses based on casual observations. Like Holmes, House is addicted to drugs, doesn't interact well with most people, and plays music in his spare time. And also like Holmes with Moriarty, House has made some powerful enemies. Even though these story arcs, like with Tritter, seem to upset many viewers, I think they give him more depth.

[mmilton80]

You really don't need to see them to understand anything, but there are many great episodes that are worth catching. There's repeats on USA already.

What you should know, however, is that the House character is roughly based on Sherlock Holmes. Each episode is usually based on one major medical mystery (which despite many viewers complaints, are based on real cases), with several usually comical interactions in the clinic, where he often deduces illnesses based on casual observations. Like Holmes, House is addicted to drugs, doesn't interact well with most people, and plays music in his spare time. And also like Holmes with Moriarty, House has made some powerful enemies. Even though these story arcs, like with Tritter, seem to upset many viewers, I think they give him more depth.


Also, like Holmes, many of the letters in their last name are the same. They also may live close to each other, but a years and continents apart. I have not seen the Lake House, but it was a movie starring Sandra Bullock and Keanu Reeves.

[bruinfan]

House survived despite having a sucky laywer.


Hey, what do you expect from Dwayne Wayne?


This is like the second or third time a hospital show used a illness from another hospital show very close in airing dates. Scrubs used broken heart syndrome last week, and the can't feel pain condition was used in house and another show as well... so many shows, a limited number of wierd diseases, i guess.

[hapdrastic]

Broken Heart disease, huh

Yeah that was particularly humorous to me because...

Scrubs made fun of House last week on "My House", and that was one of the diseases that Dr. Cox diagnosed when he was in House-mode.

(I don't know...did that need to be a spoiler?)

[Church AV Guy]

I know this is extremely unlikely, BUT, House's axiom is that everyone lies. When Cuddy said that she had perjured herself for him, and now she owned him--double clinic duty, etc. I was wondering if that tirade was the lie,and She told the truth in court. He seemed to be getting high, but is it possible that he really was given something other then OxyContin at the pharmacy?

I was rather unsatisfied by the implications of the ending. I was hoping House might have actually changed, a little, but it seemed that he did what he always does, just what is necessary to continue on.

I thought I had read that Hugh Laurie complained about the constant limp and that there was going to be a change to the show and he was going to be cured, sort of, of the limp. Was that just a red herring?

[ThePennyDropped]

I was rather unsatisfied by the implications of the ending. I was hoping House might have actually changed, a little, but it seemed that he did what he always does, just what is necessary to continue on.

I'm not so much unsatisfied by the ending as perplexed. Now that we know House never detoxed, and will continue to use his narcotics, where is he going to get his prescription? Does he expect Cuddy or Wilson to continue to prescribe for him after all this?

--Debbie

[betts4]

I'm not so much unsatisfied by the ending as perplexed. Now that we know House never detoxed, and will continue to use his narcotics, where is he going to get his prescription? Does he expect Cuddy or Wilson to continue to prescribe for him after all this?

--Debbie

Will he still need them too? If he has 'detoxed' will he now be able to write his own prescrips again?

I am still wondering about all the suffering Tritter caused to Wilson and if that will come back to hit him at all?

I was not surprised by the ending, my husband said that House was not reacting as a rehab two days in would be acting. I was feeling a bit let down, but I figure the vicadin is part of his character. When he started acting crazy it was because the vicadin was kept from him and he had to scrounge for it. Give him just enough for the pain to be eased and he is okay.

[rgr]

I'm not so much unsatisfied by the ending as perplexed. Now that we know House never detoxed, and will continue to use his narcotics, where is he going to get his prescription? Does he expect Cuddy or Wilson to continue to prescribe for him after all this?

--Debbie
We don't know that House is still on vicodin. We assume it based on Wilson's getting the presciption from Voldemort. But wouldn't it be just like House to screw with his friend's mind by keeping him wondering? And I tend to believe his apology to Wilson was sincere since there was no upside to it (unless he came up with the circuitous thought that apology to Wilson would get told to Cuddy, who would then commit perjury to save House).

And as to Cuddy's "owning" of House - can anyone really see her going to Tritter and admitting perjury? I'm sure her cell in the women's wing of the prison will be comforting knowing House is in prison as well. That'll be a great scene:
Cuddy: "If you don't do the extra clinic shifts, I'll have you sent to prison!"
House: "Great, I'll get the judge on the phone and you can explain your perjury. Let me know how THAT goes."

[MassD]

Glorious ending to a frustrating story line....

House played them all and came out smiling... sweet.

Though, I have to say... sucks to be that firefighter dude. I mean... they burned his melon to keep him from pining away about his brother's fiance and it turns out to be a figment of some tumor's imgination. They turned his brain to creamed corn for nothing.

Sucks to be him.

[TonyTheTiger]

You really don't need to see them to understand anything, but there are many great episodes that are worth catching. There's repeats on USA already.

What you should know, however, is that the House character is roughly based on Sherlock Holmes. Each episode is usually based on one major medical mystery (which despite many viewers complaints, are based on real cases), with several usually comical interactions in the clinic, where he often deduces illnesses based on casual observations. Like Holmes, House is addicted to drugs, doesn't interact well with most people, and plays music in his spare time. And also like Holmes with Moriarty, House has made some powerful enemies. Even though these story arcs, like with Tritter, seem to upset many viewers, I think they give him more depth.


Where is your source on this? I read that the cases were made up. In fact, a number of episodes were shown to "real" doctors for their opinion and they all said that the medical part of the show was just entertainment and not a real diagnosis in sight!

Don't get me wrong - LOVE the show and I'm not trying to threadcrap, just curious.

[TAsunder]

Pretty sure they are made up.

http://www.politedissent.com/house_pd.html

[balboa dave]

Where is your source on this? I read that the cases were made up. In fact, a number of episodes were shown to "real" doctors for their opinion and they all said that the medical part of the show was just entertainment and not a real diagnosis in sight!

Don't get me wrong - LOVE the show and I'm not trying to threadcrap, just curious.The confusion comes in between source and implementation. Real cases are the source, but the writers will change what they deem necessary, using what's called dramatic license. Of course people with medical background will find lots to nit pick about, just as I can nit pick anything concerning electronics, but that is not the same as sayiing the basis for these cases is not true. I'm also sure whoever the medical advisor of this show is, he or she is continually frustrated by many of the events and dialog. Like any procedural drama (cou*CSI*gh), the diagnosis timeline, the speed of test results, the almost non-existence of red tape is all gone because one, they have nothing to do with the telling of the story, and two, they are mind-numbingly boring.

[Snapperdude]

Why is the next new episode three weeks away?

[dswallow]

Why is the next new episode three weeks away?
February sweeps, perhaps.

[zalusky]

American Idol is two hours for the first few weeks to get momentum going.

[supasta]

Good riddance Tritter!

[Jesda]

I'm VERY pleased that House didn't change.

[bonscott87]

Why is the next new episode three weeks away?

A little thing called American Idol.

[eddyj]

The wife and I were both a little disappointed in how it got resolved. It seemed too easy, after all the other crap. And neither House nor Tritter ended up with any lasting consequences, which was a bit of a cop out (so to speak :) ).

Having said that, I an SO glad this Tritter stuff is done. I was getting pretty sick of it.

[vikingguy]

Solid episode I do admit I got a big laugh when it I found out house played everyone. I thought the ending was perfect as that is how house always does things. House does what every is nessasary to get what he wants.

[Figaro]

So after all that everything is back to normal. WTF? Wilson should have grabbed the guards gun and just shot House right then and there!

[MassD]

So after all that everything is back to normal. WTF?

You wanted something different? If so, I really question your judgment. :) How could anyone who likes this show want House to change?

I mean... the whole point is that he is some self-destructive, Vicodin-addicted, boorish lout who also happens to be a diagnostic savant capable of saving even the most threatened patients.

Why go and blow all that up?

[Figaro]

You wanted something different? If so, I really question your judgment. :) How could anyone who likes this show want House to change?

I mean... the whole point is that he is some self-destructive, Vicodin-addicted, boorish lout who also happens to be a diagnostic savant capable of saving even the most threatened patients.

Why go and blow all that up?
It would be interesting to see him off the Vicodin, it really doesn't add to the show.

[eddyj]

We did, for a while after being shot. He was still an ass. :)

[Tangent]

Also, like Holmes, many of the letters in their last name are the same. They also may live close to each other, but a years and continents apart. I have not seen the Lake House, but it was a movie starring Sandra Bullock and Keanu Reeves.

They also live at the same address. In one episode you could see that he lives at 221B, just like Holmes' Baker street address.

I'm glad to see Tritter go, this was a wonderfull "suck it, Tritter" ending to his persecution of House. House' detoxing-but-not-really apology to Wilson was also quite an elegant way to save the friendship, especially when Wilson realized that House didn't need to do it as part of the ruse.

Waiting for 3 weeks for the next episode - :down:
Waiting 3 weeks because of American Idol - :down: :down: :down: :mad:

[Church AV Guy]

American Idol is two hours for the first few weeks to get momentum going.
American Idol needs momentum? Excuse me? American Idol is a juggernaut! Its ratings rival the Super Bowl (okay, maybe not, but...). This is just a method for CRUSHING the competition on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, and getting past the auditions stage and into the elimination rounds, the REALLY popular part of the show.

I'll take an episode of House any day.

[johnperkins21]

Waiting for 3 weeks for the next episode - :down:
Waiting 3 weeks because of American Idol - :down: :down: :down: :mad:

Well said.

[LoadStar]

It would be interesting to see him off the Vicodin, it really doesn't add to the show.

Agreed. The brief respite that we had at the beginning of the season, after he recovered from the gunshot, was nice. I wish they had left him at that stage, as unbelievable as his total recovery might have been. House's personality drives the show, not the limp or the drug addiction, and even off the meds his personality would not be likely to change.

You know, I'd be interested to see what he was like before his leg injury... we saw the scene from when it happened during "Three Stories," but we've yet to see anything before that point. I'd be cool with a whole episode set in his backstory.

[betts4]

I mean... the whole point is that he is some self-destructive, Vicodin-addicted, boorish lout who also happens to be a diagnostic savant capable of saving even the most threatened patients.

Saving them sure, after almost killing them two or three times by making incorrect diagnosistic choices. And a couple have died anyway. But I must say, I gotta love House, he is just the guy that makes me smile.

[Z-Todd]

You wanted something different? If so, I really question your judgment. :) How could anyone who likes this show want House to change?

I mean... the whole point is that he is some self-destructive, Vicodin-addicted, boorish lout who also happens to be a diagnostic savant capable of saving even the most threatened patients.

Why go and blow all that up?

I love this show, seen every ep. And I don't want him to change.

I don't like "touchy-feely" Dr House one bit, I like him sarcastic and abrasive. When he constantly demeans his co-workers, it's actually amusing to me.

[BriGuy20]

I love this show, seen every ep. And I don't want him to change.

I don't like "touchy-feely" Dr House one bit, I like him sarcastic and abrasive. When he constantly demeans his co-workers, it's actually amusing to me.

+1

[mmilton80]

+1
+2

Right on.

He's House. Much like The Todd, he doesn't change.

[smak]

Did I miss something right before the Tritter storyline happened, or has House's vicodin addiction actually ever affected his work?

Or was it just some theory Tritter came up with to try to get House back.

If the drugs don't affect his personality, and his personality drives the show, then what was the whole point of having him pop pills from the beginning?

Was it all leading up to this huge arc of shows, where when we end the day, we're back to where we started.

It all seems pretty pointless.

-smak-

[classicX]

If he has 'detoxed' will he now be able to write his own prescrips again?

It is illegal for a doctor to write a prescription for him/herself. Ever.

[classicX]

American Idol needs momentum? Excuse me? American Idol is a juggernaut! Its ratings rival the Super Bowl (okay, maybe not, but...). This is just a method for CRUSHING the competition on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, and getting past the auditions stage and into the elimination rounds, the REALLY popular part of the show.

I'll take an episode of House any day.

I like the auditions better than the elimination rounds, I find those boring and always end up fast-forwarding through looking one good performance.

The auditions, however, ALWAYS have me in stitches.

[Bierboy]

...Waiting 3 weeks because of American Idol - :down: :down: :down: :mad: Add me to that list... :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Jon J]

It is illegal for a doctor to write a prescription for him/herself. Ever.
Are you sure it is illegal and not just unethical?

[Bierboy]

Are you sure it is illegal and not just unethical?My assistant is a doc's wife, and she says it's not illegal, just unethical.

[Sadara]

Woohoo.... Tritter is gone gone gone!!! :)

[Jon J]

Woohoo.... Tritter is gone gone gone!!! :)I think we'll see Tritter again and he will need House's diagnostic skills. Payback time. ;)

[taronga]

What I don't understand is why Cuddy's 'evidence' made such a difference. Even if they were placebos, that doesn't make House's intentions any more pure.

[DreadPirateRob]

What I don't understand is why Cuddy's 'evidence' made such a difference. Even if they were placebos, that doesn't make House's intentions any more pure.

Depending on how the law is written that he is charged with, a required element may have been that actually had to receive stolen prescription medication. If that was the case, then he could not be guilty despite having the requisite intent.

[Stormspace]

What I don't understand is why Cuddy's 'evidence' made such a difference. Even if they were placebos, that doesn't make House's intentions any more pure.

If I throw a brick at a window and you catch it does it still break? The moral of this story is that everyone around house knows the problem wasn't the drugs, it was the pain. It literally drove him mad and the sole reason he was in that pain was due to Tritters abuse of power. Probably makes them feel justified in doing what they did. House's only crime was being a jerk until Tritter pushed him over the edge.

[WinBear]

Did I miss something right before the Tritter storyline happened, or has House's vicodin addiction actually ever affected his work?

The whole point is that House is useless without the pills. He's only brilliant when he's high. When they had him on the ketamine treatment, he was having to run miles every day to get a natural high to be able to function.

[Graymalkin]

So what's Cameron going to do when she finds out House's apology to Wilson wasn't sincere? Take her hug back? :)

[DreadPirateRob]

So what's Cameron going to do when she finds out House's apology to Wilson wasn't sincere? Take her hug back? :)

I'm still not convinced the apology wasn't real. It would be just like House to make a real apology while in fake rehab that he willingly disclosed to Wilson. That way Wilson thinks it was all part of the act, but House gets a chance to really tell him how he feels.

[Idearat]

The whole point is that House is useless without the pills. He's only brilliant when he's high. When they had him on the ketamine treatment, he was having to run miles every day to get a natural high to be able to function.

Nowhere have I seen that being high is where House gets his Mojo. If so, it implies that House was not House before the problem with his leg, which was fairly recent.

If he was the great diagnostician before the leg problem, then it's not tied to his Vicodin. If he only is that good now with Vicodin you'll have a hard time separating "high" from "not in agony" when describing his usual condition when his medication is available.

This isn't to say that living with Vicodin-managed pain does not have side effects, but calling all of his skills drug-induced would not be accurate.

[MegaHertz67]

Waiting for 3 weeks for the next episode - :down:
Waiting 3 weeks because of American Idol - :down: :down: :down: :mad:
+2

Never been an Idol fan. I understand the fascination, just have never been subject to the fascination.

It's kinda like NASCAR...it is a vicarious thrill. Everyone watching can put themselves into the picture as singer/driver if they only had the talent/guts/time/opportunity to do it for themselves.

[WhiskeyTango]

Glad Tritters gone...I agree that story seemed to sap the humor from the show but it still had its moments

Judge: "Dr. House, do you want to go to jail?"
House: "No thanks."

[Cearbhaill]

I'm still not convinced the apology wasn't real. It would be just like House to make a real apology while in fake rehab that he willingly disclosed to Wilson. That way Wilson thinks it was all part of the act, but House gets a chance to really tell him how he feels.
I agree with this 100%.
Some folks just have to talk sideways in order to express feelings like this.

The whole point is that House is useless without the pills. He's only brilliant when he's high. When they had him on the ketamine treatment, he was having to run miles every day to get a natural high to be able to function.
I don't get that impression at all.
Pain distracts him and prevents him from from getting into his diagnostic groove, and the vicodin allows him to function. Without the vicodin he is too preoccupied and distracted by pain to think clearly enough to function on such a high level.
He ran because he always ran before the infarction, and because he simply enjoyed moving after so long being incapable of it.

[ThePennyDropped]

I don't get that impression at all.
Pain distracts him and prevents him from from getting into his diagnostic groove, and the vicodin allows him to function. Without the vicodin he is too preoccupied and distracted by pain to think clearly enough to function on such a high level.
He ran because he always ran before the infarction, and because he simply enjoyed moving after so long being incapable of it.

I agree with you completely. Also, I think he ran so obsessively because the pain was returning, and he was in denial about it. If he could continue to run, he could convince himself he was still "okay" and he wasn't going to return to his previous life of chronic pain.

--Debbie