Isn't HDMI one huge conspiracy by content providers to prevent us from recording HD?

[Squonk]

from where I sit, it seems to me the average consumer is being slowly duped into accepting and buying into a format of carrying HD video and audio signals which really is a subterfuge for copy protecting hidef content. Think about it. HDMI carries the HDCP copy protection on all signals. The more TVs and AV recievers that have this, the more content can be copy protected. The HDCP as I understand it doesn't exist on signals going over a DVI hookup or a firewire input/output. By blindly accepting this HDMI cable as the "simple way to hook things up", aren't we doing what the content providers want--to make sure we can't make pristine copies of their hi def movies and broadcasts? They want us to BUY their Hi def DVDs, so getting us all to buy HDMI equipped equipment solves that problem with one fell swoop. I have a Hi def VCR that can copy via firewire--will I soon see the day that I can't copy stuff because it is all outputted over the HDMI equipment only? I note that we still have yet to hear anything about HD DVD recorders.


From one paranoid guy

[bpratt]

Looks that way to me.
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/dvihdmicomponent.htm

[HiDefGator]

HDMI is a major step forward over having to hook up and hide component video cables and audio cables too. The fact that it also carries HDCP is either a plus or a minus depending on where you work. If it is a conspiracy at least we get smaller neater simplier cabling in the process.

[DrBunsen]

DVI can also include HDCP. The DVI inputs on my set support it.

[harley3k]

I think you're right.

I even remember reading something somewhere (sorry can't recall the reference) about one of the High Def DVD formats (or players) limiting (or threatening to limit) the output of the component connections to only 480; essentially making it a non-highdef DVD player unless you used HDMI/DVI.

Eventually the technology (CPU Speed/Storage Speed and Space) will make it as easy to record/capture hidef content as it is for SD content today. There are a few component HD capture cards out already, so it makes sense they want to lock this down as part of the standard.

-h

[ShiningBengal]

from where I sit, it seems to me the average consumer is being slowly duped into accepting and buying into a format of carrying HD video and audio signals which really is a subterfuge for copy protecting hidef content. Think about it. HDMI carries the HDCP copy protection on all signals. The more TVs and AV recievers that have this, the more content can be copy protected. The HDCP as I understand it doesn't exist on signals going over a DVI hookup or a firewire input/output. By blindly accepting this HDMI cable as the "simple way to hook things up", aren't we doing what the content providers want--to make sure we can't make pristine copies of their hi def movies and broadcasts? They want us to BUY their Hi def DVDs, so getting us all to buy HDMI equipped equipment solves that problem with one fell swoop. I have a Hi def VCR that can copy via firewire--will I soon see the day that I can't copy stuff because it is all outputted over the HDMI equipment only? I note that we still have yet to hear anything about HD DVD recorders.


From one paranoid guy

DVI that is HDCP compatible will pass protected content. If it is not HDCP compatible, you won't be able to get HDCP protected content.

There is no disadvantage to HDMI compared with DVI. There IS a disadvantage to non HDCP compatible DVI compared to HDMI, as it will not pass HDCP protected content.

Both HDMI and non-HDCP compatible DVI will pass non-protected content.

[reh523]

DVI that is HDCP compatible will pass protected content. If it is not HDCP compatible, you won't be able to get HDCP protected content.

There is no disadvantage to HDMI compared with DVI. There IS a disadvantage to non HDCP compatible DVI compared to HDMI, as it will not pass HDCP protected content.

Both HDMI and non-HDCP compatible DVI will pass non-protected content.


True.

Don't blame the HDMI cable end blame the content providers and there little "flag" they put on it....

[Lee L]

Too bad we could not get people to understand this 4 or 5 years ago before it was too late.