Dexter "Truth Be Told" 12/10/06 [Text View]

sonnik

12-10-2006, 11:16 PM

Excellent episode. You can tell how well this show has come together in its first season.

Line of the night...

Dexter: "Get your F***ing hand off me."

I think this is the first time we've heard Dex drop the F-bomb?

Book reference:

Also, this is the first time we've heard the narrative refer to Dexter's dark side as "Dark Passenger" - as it is commonly referred to in the book.

dswallow

12-10-2006, 11:52 PM

This is also the first time I've really disliked where the episode ended and they're making us wait a week for more. :)

verdugan

12-11-2006, 12:01 AM

Is the next episode supposed to be the series finale or just the season finale?

dswallow

12-11-2006, 12:07 AM

Is the next episode supposed to be the series finale or just the season finale?
Just the season finale; the series was already given the green light for a second season.

verdugan

12-11-2006, 12:25 AM

Cool. Thank you for the quick reply.

FlugPoP

12-11-2006, 12:46 AM

It was a tad bit slow at first, still a great EP. love the " get your f'n hands off part" too. Its like his fangs came out for a split second

Eight47

12-11-2006, 12:52 AM

This is also the first time I've really disliked where the episode ended and they're making us wait a week for more. :)
I kinda wish Showtime would have a 2 hour season finale. Excellent episode. This was one of my favorite shows this season.

jschuur

12-11-2006, 04:48 AM

Dexter: "Get your F***ing hand off me."
I actually thought Dexter was pretending to get emotional, so that Doakes would be fooled into thinking he had them.

Warren

12-11-2006, 07:30 AM

am I stretching to get a Scarface reference?

TAsunder

12-11-2006, 08:57 AM

Rudy's lucky none of the hookers knew brazilian jiu jutsu; they could have easily escaped his choke hold.

harvscar

12-11-2006, 09:09 AM

jamesbobo

12-11-2006, 09:11 AM

I was thinking that a police officer should be able to get out of a choke hold.
Still a great show.

Thom

12-11-2006, 10:42 AM

Not to mention she went there directly from work -- wasn't she still wearing her gun?

madscientist

12-11-2006, 11:13 AM

I was sure he was going to drug her... that would have been the smart move. But, as I pointed out after last week's episode when he went after Angel, he seems to either be losing control a little, or else he's gotten away with so much he's beginning to think he's invincible.

The whole thing with the lozenge was really, really lame. Maybe they'll do something with it but it came off as the writers trying to cram one extra bit of "proof" in there where it absolutely was not needed, and completely did not fit.

I interpreted the scene with Doaks as, Dexter lets a little of his "dark passenger" show and gives Doakes the cold stare, and Doakes sees it and knows what it is and means. Maybe Doakes' time in South America (which was not mentioned in the first book) allows him to recognize Dexter more easily.

A good episode, and a good cliff-hanger! I read the book so I know what all the secrets are, but I'm still excited to see it.

TAsunder

12-11-2006, 11:52 AM

The whole thing with the lozenge was really, really lame. Maybe they'll do something with it but it came off as the writers trying to cram one extra bit of "proof" in there where it absolutely was not needed, and completely did not fit.

I don't understand what you mean. Are you referring to him leaving the lozenge a while back, or him using one during that scene? He intentionally ate it knowing she would recognize it. Sort of like to taunt her.

NatasNJ

12-11-2006, 12:10 PM

i loved how he rubbed it in to her as he was starting to choke her that as a cop she should have seen it. Talk about kicking someone as they are down. :)

TAsunder

12-11-2006, 12:40 PM

i loved how he rubbed it in to her as he was starting to choke her that as a cop she should have seen it. Talk about kicking someone as they are down. :)

It's true though. Us non cops saw it a long time back.

madscientist

12-11-2006, 01:02 PM

I don't understand what you mean. Are you referring to him leaving the lozenge a while back, or him using one during that scene? He intentionally ate it knowing she would recognize it. Sort of like to taunt her.No. Yes. Huh. I guess. Maybe the writing or acting for that scene was off. I just didn't see it. Or maybe it's just me :)

jgerry

12-11-2006, 01:34 PM

Lieutenant whats-her-name got hers but good, although it was kind of overshadowed by all the other action. She played her hand big and got beat.

Havana Brown

12-11-2006, 03:37 PM

I thought at first that Debra would recognize the hooker, and secondly that when they paused the tape that she would recognize the part of the ceiling (or was it floor?) of her BF's place.

FlugPoP

12-11-2006, 03:46 PM

I thought at first that Debra would recognize the hooker, and secondly that when they paused the tape that she would recognize the part of the ceiling (or was it floor?) of her BF's place.

I dont think she has ever seen his freezer so she wouldn't have recognized it.

wmcbrine

12-11-2006, 05:10 PM

My reaction... "OMG it's the Christmas episode!" This is one show I never thought would have one. :)

ReenieS

12-11-2006, 05:50 PM

My favorite scene is still Dexter's unflinching stare when Rita's ex-hubby pulls a punch at his face.

RichardHead

12-11-2006, 07:45 PM

I'll be so glad when Dexter is over so I can cancel Showtime. This has to be the weakest channel package out there. Is the plan for the series to continue following the book(s) or do they plan to go on their own script next season?
As far as I remember they aren't following the book much at all. I could be wrong but this is not how the Ice Truck Killer was introduced in the book.

MickeS

12-12-2006, 01:27 AM

I can hardly wait for next week.

This show is really good at making me both root for and against someone. On one hand, I want Rudy to be caught, because... well, he's a mean psycho. :) But on the other hand, it's been so enjoyable to see the cops and Dexter trying to find him, that I don't want that to end, and also, if Rudy gets caught, will he tell about Dexter? I guess Dex will have to kill him, or hope he gets killed...

And Dexter himself is the same way... can't decide if I want him to be brought to justice, or go on living and killing... :)

The whole thing with the lozenge was really, really lame. Maybe they'll do something with it but it came off as the writers trying to cram one extra bit of "proof" in there where it absolutely was not needed, and completely did not fit.

They weren't trying to do that at all. I don't think there's any more proof needed that Rudy is the Ice Truck Killer. ;) They were just making Rudy show Deb that he's the killer.

bicker

12-12-2006, 07:14 AM

I feel that this was the best episode of the season so far, and really did a great job setting up the season finale -- making me want to tune in for sure. Early in the season I was pretty non-committal about Dexter, and was ready to cancel Showtime (until they announced the dates for Sleeper Cell), but this episode made the previous ones worthwhile.

johnperkins21

12-12-2006, 11:56 AM

I can hardly wait for next week.

This show is really good at making me both root for and against someone. On one hand, I want Rudy to be caught, because... well, he's a mean psycho. :) But on the other hand, it's been so enjoyable to see the cops and Dexter trying to find him, that I don't want that to end, and also, if Rudy gets caught, will he tell about Dexter? I guess Dex will have to kill him, or hope he gets killed...

Well, I'd imagine that the Code of Harry would allow for Dexter to kill Rudy. And now that he's kidnapped his sister, I don't see any other resolution. Although, my guess is that there will be a struggle and either Deb or Doakes will be the one to eventually kill Rudy. I think that Doakes is the more likely candidate considering his romantic interest in Deb, and the added drama it would create.

TAsunder

12-12-2006, 12:02 PM

Dexter probably has to kill Rudy. He seems to think so too - he didn't inform anyone that rudy was the ITK. If rudy got caught he could spill the beans on dexter.

jgerry

12-12-2006, 12:51 PM

And most importantly, after Rudy is killed, Dexter will have to spill the beans about who HE is to Deb, and make sure she keeps her mouth shut. No other way to explain why Dexter didn't tell everyone that Rudy was the ITK.

Pretty much the only way I can see this playing out is that they get rid of Rudy's body, Dexter tells Deb everything, and they both pretend nothing happened. Of course I'm sure they've come up with some clever way to prove me wrong!

TAsunder

12-12-2006, 01:08 PM

Or dexter could just knock out deb with knock out juice in the neck from behind, kill rudy, and then deb would never have to know who killed ITK. That could be tricky, though. Dexter would have to somehow fake himself getting caught by the ITK and make it look like some 3rd party rescued both him and Deb.

mwhip

12-12-2006, 01:25 PM

Or the obvious...Rudy could kill Deb which I would not be opposed to seeing that I can live without horrible acting.

johnperkins21

12-12-2006, 07:06 PM

Deb won't find out about Dexter's secret. Rudy will start talking about it while he's getting ready to kill both Deb and Dexter, and then Doakes will come by and shoot Rudy. Deb will question Dexter about what Rudy was talking about, but he'll play it off and she'll leave it alone for a while as she rides off into the sunset with Doakes.

That's the way I see it happening anyway.

TAsunder

12-13-2006, 11:15 AM

How will doakes find them?

Mr. Soze

12-13-2006, 04:55 PM

This was probably the best episode of the season for me.

Rudy's taunting of Deb at the end was just flat out sadistic, as he gives her the
sleeper hold, telling her how easy it was to dupe a girl as desperate for love as
her, so that could be the last thing she possibly hears. Ouchie!

Begun the serial killers war has!

johnperkins21

12-13-2006, 05:03 PM

How will doakes find them?

Not sure, but my guess is that he follows Dexter. How will Dexter find them in the first place? I suppose it's possible that they never find them, and Rudy kills Deb then takes his boat to some other country and disappears.

I really, truly hope I'm wrong because I love this show so much. And to see it end like that would be a bummer. Not having read the book, I have no idea how it will end, but I'd like to see something completely original that I never saw coming while remaining plausible. It's just very difficult to do.

Thom

12-13-2006, 05:52 PM

Dexter probably has to kill Rudy. He seems to think so too - he didn't inform anyone that rudy was the ITK. If rudy got caught he could spill the beans on dexter.

If Dexter informs the police that Rudy is the Ice Truck Killer, what is to prevent Rudy from informing the police that Dexter is also a serial killer? Rudy knows about Dexter's secret life, and Dexter knows that Rudy knows. Thus Dexter not talking is simple self-preservation.

TAsunder

12-13-2006, 05:54 PM

If Dexter informs the police that Rudy is the Ice Truck Killer, what is to prevent Rudy from informing the police that Dexter is also a serial killer? Rudy knows about Dexter's secret life, and Dexter knows that Rudy knows. Thus Dexter not talking is simple self-preservation.

Yes, that was what I was getting at.

I postulated that rudy was on dexter's boat, but I guess rudy must own his own boat, or rent one, since he was able to recover the body of the coyote's wife a while back.

MickeS

12-14-2006, 02:03 AM

There was something that was a little "off" about the scene where Rudy tells Deb he's the ITK... he put out the lozenge wrapper, and says something like "Oh yeah, that was the one clue he left behind". She responds, "Wait, how did you know that?"

And... how DID he know that? :) Even if he did leave it behind, he didn't know that they found it, did he? I'm pretty sure he wasn't in the room when the witness talked about it either.

Is this just a slip-up by the writers, or did I miss something?

RoundBoy

12-14-2006, 07:18 AM

Deb has been telling Rudy about the ITK investigation... mostly to talk up her part in the investigation.

While they didn't show the convo on camera, they pretty much implied it by all the other things she has been talking about investigation-wise.

MickeS

12-14-2006, 08:49 AM

But if that's the case, why would she ask how he knew that?

NatasNJ

12-14-2006, 08:54 AM

But if that's the case, why would she ask how he knew that?

Rudy did work with the last victim and fitted him with a new leg right? So he was around in the hospital during the time that guy made mention of the cough drops. So he could have overheard it or been told it byt he vicitm himself.

RoundBoy

12-14-2006, 08:57 AM

johnperkins21

12-14-2006, 02:04 PM

because Deb just talks and talks and really has no idea what she is blurting out.

I wonder why she didn't figure out that Rudy lives in the area they are searching for high power consumption, AND the big ass walk in freezer door facing the apartment door she just walked in.

The freezer door is inside his apartment. And I assume that when he has company over, it is conveniently hidden. Could be wrong though as assumptions usually are. It is in his apartment though, not across the hall.