Wireless network problems - Netgear

[jobwan]

Hoping someone out there can help me link my Tivo up. I have actually been without my Tivo for a couple of months and I am at risk of serious withdrawal so any suggestions gratefully received.

My Tivo died a while back when the modem fried in a thunderstorm.

I took the opportunity to install a network card (eg. cachecard) and (to make things easier) a replacement drive

The modemtest program was disabled courtesy of the guys at Tivo heaven -on the new drive so that the TiVo boots OK.

I also bought a wireless bridge to connect via broadband but I have not been able to set this up to talk to my wireless router.

I can follow the Tivo Guided Setup but it does not dial via the wireless broadband connection. The rest of the set up seems OK.

Not being particularly au fait with how all this fits together I am not sure if this is a Tivo or network problem but hopefully there is some experience out there.

The kit is
Netgear DG834Gv3 Wireless Router
Netgear Rangemax Wireless Access Port WPN802v2

Thanks :confused:

[The Obo]

Have you connected your WPN802v2 to a computer and set it up to access your DG834G first? Are you using wireless security? WEP? WPA?

Are you using a standard network cable from the TiVo to the access point? or a cross-over cable? (you should be using a standard cable)

[jobwan]

Thanks Obo

I think the set up of the bridge may be the problem but can I test the Tivo upgrade stuff without the wireless piece to find the source of the problem?

I have got very confused reading other threads about the software needed to upgrade the cachecard so would like to know if I can test that end.

I had heard rumour of problems with Netgear so anyone with experience of these would be a great help.

In summary I am probably confusing two probllems and would like to work out how to test each one out.

Ta

[ColinYounger]

Jobwan - I'm totally on NetGear and have no problems. My peers and I find Netgear much more reliable than other makes. So please take heart. :)

I think you need to use 'a computer' to get the bridge set up correctly - I plugged my bridge in to my laptop, disabled the other network items and configured the bridge to talk to my access point. Once you've done that, you'll be able to plug the TiVo into the bridge and it should connect.

Please be aware that it takes some time for the bridge to 'get it on' with the other kit. I thought mine was all broken until I gave it enough time to sort itself out. :o

[PhilG]

OK - Some small steps to check

1. Have you changed the Tivo default IP address? It's normally in the range 192.168.1.something. If your home metwork is 192.168.0.something, then the Tivo and everything else are effectively on different networks so they won't talk! (it's all to do with subnets I think - anyway, I changed my Tivo to 192.168.0.222)

2. If your router is NOT 192.168.1.1, then you will need to make a change to Tivos settings. I had to issue

route.tivo add -net 0.0.0.0 netmask 0.0.0.0 gw 192.168.0.1 dev eth1

as my gateway is 192.168.0.1

3. What is the IP address of your wireless bridge? Can you ping it??

4. Can you ping Tivo??

I am also 100% Netgear and have NO problems

Phil G

[frogster]

Yes. The Netgear IP default is 192.168.0.1 and this is not the Tivo gateway default.

So first change the router IP to 192.168.0.1 and reboot it.

Then disconnect the PC from the router or turn off the wifi if you are using a wifi laptop. Then connect the AP to the PC using the supplied ethernet cable. Follow the AP setup instructions to set your PC to a fixed IP and gateway which will allow access to the APs configuration screen. Then configure the AP to work with the router, which it will be able to see as a local wifi network.

Then connect the AP to the Tivo, put the PC/Laptop back to "auto" for the IP settings and turn its wifi back on if it is a laptop.

Then reboot everything.

[PhilG]

WAIT!!!!

When frogster says "So first change the router IP to 192.168.0.1 and reboot it."

What he MEANT to say was "So first change the router IP to 192.168.1.1 and reboot it."!!!

Also, it really depends on how big your home network is whether you should decide to change Tivo OR to change everything else. That's why I decided to go the slightly more painful route of changing the Tivo IP stuff

[frogster]

What he MEANT to say was "So first change the router IP to 192.168.1.1 and reboot it."!!!Glad to see someone is awake. :rolleyes:

Also, it really depends on how big your home network is whether you should decide to change Tivo OR to change everything else.Big or not, most people will have only devices that obtain an IP automatically (except for the Tivo). I have several wild and wonderful things plugged into my network and the Tivo is the only one that isn't DHCP compliant.

[worm]

I've never found a use for DHCP yet :) Everything I use has a static IP.

[AMc]

I always start with DHCP and then end up having to go fixed to get a printer shared or a network media player to run - in the end I've set everything on fixed and left my router offering DHCP starting 20 above my last fixed address just in case.h

To the OP - Once you've established the router on 168.192.1.1 if you can plug your tivo into the router directly and telnet/ftp to it then try a test or daily call. I found in my recent battle with my new network that getting Tivo talking to the router over wire made it easier to bug hunt my wireless set up. Likewise only bug unt on your bridge with a laptop/pc on a fixed connection to it.

[Wonder_lander]

Where are you located, maybe someone on here could pop over?