Day Break 11/22/2006 (S01E03) "What If He Lets Her Go" [Text View]

dswallow

11-23-2006, 12:30 AM

I watched this one over at my mom's place, so we were watching it live and I had to explain things to her as we went along, so I can't say I really was able to give it my full and proper attention. I can say that this is a show that you really need to give full and proper attention to or you'll be lost. Because I'm here trying to remember what I saw and really can't. But I can remember what I explained to my mom. :) Oh well... maybe I'll rewatch it when I get back home.

cheesesteak

11-23-2006, 03:56 AM

teknikel

11-23-2006, 10:45 AM

"I said don't get coffee!"

I like how he's learning to manipulate his day to reveal more data and scenarios to use the next day.

I didn't get the part at the end, when his partner calls for his help. Who was the dead guy?
I like this show. It has a nice "24" feel. Sometimes I think it is a little too much like it but it is cool.

As for the dead guy. I don't think we have seen this person before. It looks like he is wearing a police or security guard uniform. Have we been introduced to any uniformed men?

mmilton80

11-23-2006, 11:50 AM

Great episode!! Whoa.

getreal

11-23-2006, 12:17 PM

After a few repetitions of the same day, Hopper now seems resigned to the idea that if somebody gets killed today, HE will still survive and get a do-over to save their life the next time. No quarry scenes this time, so the writers are finding novel ways to keep the show interesting. :up: :up:

Ricks

11-23-2006, 12:33 PM

What I like about the show is sometimes he is just not sure what to do, unlike other shows where they always know just what to do at the right time.... it has me watching

Rob Helmerichs

11-23-2006, 01:13 PM

What I like about the show is sometimes he is just not sure what to do, unlike other shows where they always know just what to do at the right time.... it has me watching
It really is a Babel Fish hunt. The trick will be, I think, when he gets near the end. Now, they're still able to throw new stuff in, but as he gets closer and closer, it will be hard to make it so that the refinements he has to come up with are smaller and smaller (and thus his actions more and more repetitive). Now, he's still mostly in thrashing mode, but as he works out his objectives and the order in which he must accomplish them...

(That was the monumentally annoying thing about the original Babel Fish hunt in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy game...the repetition as you worked through it got worse and worse.)

cheesesteak

11-23-2006, 05:52 PM

I just thought I'd share my childish thought of the day after watching this episode: Moon Bloodgood is seriously lacking in the booty department.

stevieleej

11-23-2006, 06:34 PM

numb and number

11-23-2006, 09:58 PM

I just thought I'd share my childish thought of the day after watching this episode: Moon Bloodgood is seriously lacking in the booty department.
No caboose at all!

Steveknj

11-24-2006, 10:11 AM

I like the show and it has me watching...but...

Without the quarry scene and the injection, how is it explained how he goes to bed and wakes up on the same day? It was my understanding that this happened because of the injection each time. My thought was maybe that first injection in the quarry has him stuck in one day....

Also, are they going to drag this out over many seasons if the show is a hit? I think it MIGHT get old after seeing him wake up the same day for like 100 episodes....

Rob Helmerichs

11-24-2006, 10:32 AM

Also, are they going to drag this out over many seasons if the show is a hit? I think it MIGHT get old after seeing him wake up the same day for like 100 episodes....
They've said they would handle it like 24, but then it's not really like 24, so unless there's a really strange explanation for how all this is happening that I haven't thought of, I don't see how that would really work...

I'm also glad that it's a limited season (13 episodes); I suspect dragging it out over 22-24 episodes would really, well, drag it out.

TAsunder

11-24-2006, 02:28 PM

Without the quarry scene and the injection, how is it explained how he goes to bed and wakes up on the same day? It was my understanding that this happened because of the injection each time. My thought was maybe that first injection in the quarry has him stuck in one day....

I don't know where you got that idea that the injection caused it. He wasn't injected in at least one day in the pilot.

unicorngoddess

11-24-2006, 04:04 PM

I was a little confused with they showed "day 1", then day "2". Since they were both the same day (and the same day as last week), shouldn't we have seen "day 4" or "5"?

...but I am enjoying the show

Same here! I saw Day 2 and was like, Woah. Did he progress to the next day? For a small moment there I thought, well that's an interesting twist now he'll be repeating day 2 for a while. But, nope its still the same day. What was the reasoning behind putting up Day 2. If anything tell us what loop he's on. How many times has he gone through this day now. Don't say Day 2.

Other than that, I enjoyed this episode much more than the pilot. Now that he knows what's going on and what he should do its not as repetative as the pilot was.

I don't think it was the injection that is causing this loop, and like somoene else said, he's only gotten that injection like twice but went through at least 3 or 4 different loops.

Rob Helmerichs

11-24-2006, 04:31 PM

JYoung

11-25-2006, 12:32 PM

I think the "Day 1, Day 2" thing is just dumbing down the show, so that people will understand that we've entered a new iteration for this episode.

Apparently, we're too stupid to figure it out from, oh, I don't know, THE ALARM CLOCK?

Unfortunately, I am concerned that this show is "too complicated" for Joe Sixpack.
There is more and more to keep track of as the show progresses.
Not that I think that's a bad thing, in fact that's part of the reason I like this show.

And I think you nailed it in comparing this show to an Infocom game. ;)

Let's see now, when he wakes up he has to:

Fix bullet wound.
Change cell phone batteries.
Save the Lawyer from getting smushed by the bus. (optional?)
Get package from apartment mailbox containing hourglass which will probably pay a role down the line...

:D

Rob Helmerichs

11-25-2006, 02:00 PM

Let's see now, when he wakes up he has to:

Fix bullet wound.

I think that will take care of itself...it seems to be healing over time (that is, each time he wakes up it's one day less fresh). So he's past the worst of it.

madscientist

11-25-2006, 03:57 PM

You guys forgot the most important one of all: CALL DAMIEN!

If he doesn't get a call, he tends to get cranky... then people tend to get killed.

teknikel

11-25-2006, 05:45 PM

You guys forgot the most important one of all: CALL DAMIEN!

If he doesn't get a call, he tends to get cranky... then people tend to get killed.
Doesn't miss calling Damien the night before. That's why he is so pissed. I don't think he can do anything about that.

Rob Helmerichs

11-25-2006, 05:54 PM

Doesn't miss calling Damien the night before. That's why he is so pissed. I don't think he can do anything about that.
But it might go better to get in touch with Damien before Damien has to "get in touch" with him...it's probably more plausible to call him up and say "sorry, got tied up" than to get captured, tortured, and say "sorry, got tied up." And maybe after a couple of preemptive phone calls going bad, he'll figure out how to placate the guy.

grecorj

11-25-2006, 10:42 PM

It really is a Babel Fish hunt. The trick will be, I think, when he gets near the end. Now, they're still able to throw new stuff in, but as he gets closer and closer, it will be hard to make it so that the refinements he has to come up with are smaller and smaller (and thus his actions more and more repetitive).

Which leads me to my big question: what will determine what breaks this cycle? In other words, what must he do to move on?

In something like "Groundhog Day", it's clear that Bill Murray is an ass, and he has to redeem himself to get the girl and move on. In Day Break, not so clear. Does he just have to figure out who killed Garza?

Next question: how do they do a season 2???

unicorngoddess

11-26-2006, 02:25 AM

Next question: how do they do a season 2???

Maybe season 2 will be another big mystery that he has to figure out.

Hmm...if he did this enough, I wonder if he would actually age.

madscientist

11-26-2006, 06:15 PM

Doesn't miss calling Damien the night before. That's why he is so pissed. I don't think he can do anything about that.True, but in the very first episode in the pilot he does call Damien (funny, I don't remember him having a low cell phone battery that time!) and Damien agrees to see him and doesn't try to kill him (just pretends to). He also doesn't appear to try to kill the fed, although we can't be sure of that since we don't see the fed guy after a brief phone call earlier in the day.

Billyh1026

11-26-2006, 07:56 PM

Next question: how do they do a season 2???
My best guess is that season 2 starts out as day 3. He wakes up on day 3 after solving everything he needs to get out of day 2 rerun and into his linear life thinking things are back to normal.He wakes up on day 3 after he goes night-night and he's stuck on rerun again. This time he knows right away (well, relativly right away) he's living the same day over again. Thing is, he also finds someone else that's living the same day over and realizes he has to help them solve their problem not his to end this circle.

Then again, I could just be rambling... :D

bpurcell

11-27-2006, 03:02 PM

With the ratings from the second episode, my guess is there will be no second season. Too bad, because I am really enjoying this series.

jking

11-27-2006, 03:44 PM

I was a little confused with they showed "day 1", then day "2". Since they were both the same day (and the same day as last week), shouldn't we have seen "day 4" or "5"?

...but I am enjoying the show

I had the same problem. I finally decided that in each episode he will live two days of the same day, and the "Day 1", "Day 2" thing is (like Rob said) a way to spoon feed the viewer the information. I suppose that would make sense if later they decide not to show the alarm clock every time the day resets.

Good show so far. I like how they are revealing a little bit more information about the other characters in each episode so that it doesn't get boring by just focusing on the main character in each episode. As an example, we now know there's something going on with the girlfriend other than her just being a Lois Lane-type that he has to try to protect.

unicorngoddess

11-27-2006, 03:54 PM

With the ratings from the second episode, my guess is there will be no second season. Too bad, because I am really enjoying this series.

Wow. Were the ratings that bad for the second episode? I thought the second episode was 100% better than the first. I think they really made a mistake having it be a 2 hour premire.

PacMan3000

11-28-2006, 09:12 PM

Unfortunately, I am concerned that this show is "too complicated" for Joe Sixpack.
There is more and more to keep track of as the show progresses.
Not that I think that's a bad thing, in fact that's part of the reason I like this show.

And I think you nailed it in comparing this show to an Infocom game. ;)

Let's see now, when he wakes up he has to:

Fix bullet wound.
Change cell phone batteries.
Save the Lawyer from getting smushed by the bus. (optional?)
Get package from apartment mailbox containing hourglass which will probably pay a role down the line...

:D

I don't know...I don't think it's too complicated really. I think that the average viewer may not have the patience, but I think that as each episode unfolds, it gets more and more clear.

I think the big problem ratings wise is this....if you miss an episode, would you really want to tune in the next week? I think this show is 100 times worse than 24 in that aspect. In 24, you aren't made to pay attention to small details and certain bits of dialogue. Now, granted, they have these flashy flashbacks in Day Break...but if you were to, say, miss half of the pilot, you would probably be really discouraged to tune in the next week unless you REALLY liked it.

teknikel

11-28-2006, 11:16 PM

I don't know...I don't think it's too complicated really. I think that the average viewer may not have the patience, but I think that as each episode unfolds, it gets more and more clear.

I think the big problem ratings wise is this....if you miss an episode, would you really want to tune in the next week? I think this show is 100 times worse than 24 in that aspect. In 24, you aren't made to pay attention to small details and certain bits of dialogue. Now, granted, they have these flashy flashbacks in Day Break...but if you were to, say, miss half of the pilot, you would probably be really discouraged to tune in the next week unless you REALLY liked it.
I don't know. I think if you watch for the first time this week but know a little about the premise, you can still enjoy the show and even catch up because you understand what is going on. Especially if they do "two-a-days" or more per show.

You really don't have to know what happened before. He usually does a small recap by wondering about stuff.

On the other hand, you won't know about the mysterious man in the mine or where ever that scene with the big trucks is. But I am sure it will come up again in a future ep.

Jerkymom

11-29-2006, 02:05 AM

Waking up in the morning is gonna be pretty crowded with creepy ex-husband (supposedly) on the couch. ;)

stevieleej

11-29-2006, 12:04 PM

I wonder if they would ever consider running a show like this every night for 13 days instead of spreading it out over weeks.

unicorngoddess

11-29-2006, 12:45 PM

Yeah, but they make it really easy for people that might want to watch but missed an episode. All the episodes are available to watch for free online.

jradford

11-29-2006, 01:26 PM

Yeah, but they make it really easy for people that might want to watch but missed an episode. All the episodes are available to watch for free online.
Where? I looked and could not find it on abc.com. Are you referring to torrents?

cherry ghost

11-29-2006, 02:45 PM

Where? I looked and could not find it on abc.com. Are you referring to torrents?

http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

jradford

11-29-2006, 02:51 PM

http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing
Thanks! For some reason I couldn't find that.

dswallow

11-29-2006, 02:55 PM

Thanks! For some reason I couldn't find that.
We're so accustomed to tuning out advertising banners...

from the front page of www.abc.com, right in the center:

http://a.abc.com/images/20060922/promos/339x100_fes_generic01.gif (http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing)

jradford

11-29-2006, 04:30 PM

We're so accustomed to tuning out advertising banners...

from the front page of www.abc.com, right in the center:

http://a.abc.com/images/20060922/promos/339x100_fes_generic01.gif (http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing)
:up: That is great. I went back to abc.com and sure enough, there are about 5 places I could have clicked to get to it from pages that I viewed.

It's really nice that most networks are doing this now. It's almost as if they noticed the whole torrent trend and instead of solely thinking, "We MUST put a stop to this!!" (which I know many of them did) a few bright bulbs instead began to wonder "how can we use this trend to our advantage?"

And Voila, you have people making numerous visits to the websites, watching the shows online for free, after watching a 15 second commercial, with ads all around it, which is basically what networks want anyway: Watch us so you can watch our ads. I have done the torrents before, but I much prefer this route. Whenever I did a torrent, it was because I MISSED a show, not because I wanted to steal the show, copy it to DVD, and claim it as part of my video library.