*** The Amazing Race 11/19/06 *** [Text View]

Anubys

11-19-2006, 10:29 PM

TiVo'Brien

11-19-2006, 10:37 PM

I wonder how close the 1-2-3 teams really came in...I guess we'll know next week when they are leaving the pit stop...

I think they said the distance between the last task and the pit stop is 2-3 miles...the Chos finished at night...that means it took them HOURS to go the last 2 miles...now THAT is getting lost :eek:I wonder how long the policeman detained the Chos for driving through the closed street. It seems like it must have been pretty long since they arrrived at night. I wonder if the cop asked for ID from the cameraman, too?

VegasVic

11-19-2006, 10:38 PM

The Cho's certainly are nice guys. But poor racers. Forget about their strategy of waiting for their "alliance". They just weren't very good at the race itself. Alabama should go next, then we'll see one heck of a final leg. I believe there is still one more non-elimination.

Neenahboy

11-20-2006, 12:12 AM

I wonder how long the policeman detained the Chos for driving through the closed street. It seems like it must have been pretty long since they arrrived at night. I wonder if the cop asked for ID from the cameraman, too?

I'm honestly surprised that the CBS security staff in Kiev didn't get involved at some point during that exchange.

katbug

11-20-2006, 12:49 AM

TIVOSciolist

11-20-2006, 02:14 AM

Sad to see Cho Bros go, but sadly have to admit that they deserved it on this leg. Waiting for 'Bama to finish?! Then stopping ever couple of minutes for directions? They just didn't run this leg well at all. Still wish it had been 'Bama to go though.

I was rooting for the Chos but, after tonight's events, I have to say that they deserved to go.

I have no strong negative feelings about any of the remaining teams (unlike the season when Flo was on).

xuxa

11-20-2006, 03:20 AM

I'm honestly surprised that the CBS security staff in Kiev didn't get involved at some point during that exchange.

I imagine they did.

jradosh

11-20-2006, 07:56 AM

The Cho's absolutely got what they deserved. Even if they had been good navigators and hadn't gone on the closed street, they still should have been eliminated for waiting for 'bama to finish the task. There's absolutely no excuse for that, and even 'bama said "I wouldn't have expected them to do that" (or something along those lines).

TriBruin

11-20-2006, 08:29 AM

Wow, the Cho's raced a poor leg this time (even worse than before). Thier undying devotion to 'Bama was their undoing. I wonder how they feel after watching the show and seeing that 'Bama's devotion to the alliance wasn't as strong.

'Bama has still got to go. They have got to be the most hypocyitcial team this race (or maybe any race). Based on next weeks preview:

Their hated of the Blondes may lead to a Yield. But I found that previews are misleading. Maybe the Blondes will yield them. :D

The Models and Blondes are still running a strong race and are in a good position. Rob & Kimberly still just hang on.

My guess is that 'Bama will go next week and then a rather exciting final 3.

OBTW - Rather enjoyed Kandice's comment about Dustin being a "Stick Driving Girl" :D

jtlytle

11-20-2006, 08:41 AM

lambertman

11-20-2006, 09:04 AM

If you haven't learned to pad your recordings of TAR by now, you simply aren't paying attention.

Mikkel_Knight

11-20-2006, 09:17 AM

Cho bros ran a horrible race. They may have played a "fair and friendly" game, but they suck as racers. Amazing Race isn't a game, it's a RACE!

I hope and pray that Bama gets kicked in the head and curb stomped and falls from the sky out of their airplane's next flight.

Yes. I hate them that much.

sushikitten

11-20-2006, 09:17 AM

Wow, that was extremely frustrating to watch - the stupid Bama chicks getting to advance instead of the Chos (although they deserved it this leg). The Bama chicks just make my blood boil.

richNYC

11-20-2006, 09:41 AM

dullest episode ever?

Sirius Black

11-20-2006, 09:44 AM

I don't know who I want to see go next Katy Kaboom and his wife/girlfriend or Team Bama.

IJustLikeTivo

11-20-2006, 09:45 AM

Wow, that was extremely frustrating to watch - the stupid Bama chicks getting to advance instead of the Chos (although they deserved it this leg). The Bama chicks just make my blood boil.

I completely agree that the BAMA girls may be the most hypocritical people yet to race. I mean, even worse than the weaver family on the loathed family edition. They continually used the CHOs them complain the one time the CHOs tried to follow them. Hate them, loath them. Ick. I can only hope they get their just deserts.

Now, among the remaining teams, I am behind the barbies. While they aren't the nicest people, they have raced fairly with no shenanigans and they are very good at the contests. The in the closest boys run a decent game but I don't think they really do as well as a the girls most of the time. How the heck Rob and Kim are still there mystifies me. They do almost everything wrong, they fight lick heck and yet they stay in front of the other two teams. I think that's just a measure of how badly Bama and the Chos are.

Cragmyre

11-20-2006, 09:56 AM

A lot of faces blurred this episode. The one that puzzled me was the portrait within the auditorium where the pianist played the models concerto. Usually we see blurs when the people haven't consented or their is product placement.

I agree with the sentiments here. The Cho's didn't deserve to go on, though my pick of team I want gone is 'bama.

My favorite team is still the beauty queens.

PCVSTAR

11-20-2006, 10:14 AM

What part of RACE did they not understand ?

Lee L

11-20-2006, 10:16 AM

I completely agree that the BAMA girls may be the most hypocritical people yet to race. I mean, even worse than the weaver family on the loathed family edition. They continually used the CHOs them complain the one time the CHOs tried to follow them. Hate them, loath them. Ick. I can only hope they get their just deserts.

What irritated me even more was that they constantly whined about the Chos stopping to ask directions. Now, this would have been agravating to me, no doubt, but if you don't like them stopping, please feel free to bust on out on your own and find your way. Eventually, one of them actually said something like that but man, they are useless and have ridden other teams coat tails the whole time then managed to slingshot ahead at the last second due to an even more inept team. I just don;t know what I will do if they manage to win this thing, though I am pretty sure I will not have to worry about that.

Anubys

11-20-2006, 10:16 AM

Lee L

11-20-2006, 10:17 AM

+infinity on driving the tank. that would have been so freaking awesome.

Jebberwocky!

11-20-2006, 10:26 AM

dullest episode ever?

I'm not sure, I fell asleep ;)

JFriday

11-20-2006, 10:26 AM

dullest episode ever?

I agree. I quit paying attention.

Jebberwocky!

11-20-2006, 10:28 AM

I think the Cho's being so nice and waiting for other teams really hid one important thing - they really sucked as racers. When there was no one left to wait for they still found ways to delay their progress.

Nice guys, crappy racers.

TiVo'Brien

11-20-2006, 10:31 AM

I got a big kick out of the giant puddle SPLOOSHES the tank drivers got. :D

Mikkel_Knight

11-20-2006, 10:41 AM

if they don't have the rights to show the painting, they have to blur it...

driving a tank has to be the most awesome task EVER...Kim seemed to like it a lot as well (either that, or she was very cold :D )...
Yeah - I think the only thing that compared to it was doing the Dogfight last season (or was that the family season??).

The only other thing that I can come up with would be to take a ride on/in the Vomit Comet, or get launched off of an Aircraft Carrier...

Havana Brown

11-20-2006, 10:50 AM

I don't think the whole 'Bama team was bad, just the little one. I liked the bigger woman better and even laughed at her rapping. She seemed to be having a good time.

Many of you also dislike Rob and Kimberly, but I tell ya, that Kimberly is one tough chick. She does everything that is asked of her with no hesitation.

Still rooting for the blondes and am glad that the Cho's are gone. Karma, I guess. :D

charlesml3

11-20-2006, 10:52 AM

What killed the Cho's was indecision. They were both terrible at making a decision and going with it. They constantly second guessed themselves and it ended up biting them.

The blonds are doing really well for several reasons. First, they STUDY their maps while they're riding. Second, when there's a choice of tasks they pick one and stay with it. Third, they don't spend any time or effort griping at each other. Fourth, they're friendly and nice to the locals. That combination of things has led teams to win in the past.

Joeg180

11-20-2006, 11:06 AM

Sorry to see the Cho's go, but, after lastnight they were driving me crazy.

I don't have any strong dislikes for the remaining teams, Bama is annoying and Rob is a moron.

Loved it when Rob was sidelined with another car issue.

Idearat

11-20-2006, 11:12 AM

Chernobyl: Oh yeah, that's where the atomic bomb went off.

When criticized for being a beauty contest Miss America proponents usually counter with "it's a scholarship program". The blonde professional-bimbos-to-be aren't really helping their case.

'Bama was annoying, especially when they were sitting there in the car while the Cho's were constantly asking for directions. 'Bama wouldn't' get of their lazy butts to figure out the route themselves but had to gripe about the guys they were following.

I guess I'm rooting for the models now, but they look like they'll need a good dose of luck to keep it up.

Jebberwocky!

11-20-2006, 11:22 AM

Anubys

11-20-2006, 11:25 AM

Jebberwocky!

11-20-2006, 11:28 AM

pretty sure it was one of the blondes

VegasVic

11-20-2006, 11:30 AM

Yup it was the blondes.

Lee L

11-20-2006, 11:44 AM

Definitely the blondes. I thought it was pretty funny.

wendiness1

11-20-2006, 11:49 AM

Poor Chos. Good intentions. Dumb moves.

I'm not a Bama fan but I really think they would have prefered the Chos heading out without them. I felt like Bama wanted to break away from the lost Chos a number of times but felt obligated to "follow" until, clearly, all the stopping for directions became overwhelming. You know that feeling when you run into somebody at the movie theatre that you know and they wait for you? Then you feel obligated to sit with them? Kinda like that. It would have been nice, however, if Bama had told the Chos a few days prior that they shouldn't wait around anymore.

Rob and Kimberly (I'm not even sure of their names) really haven't left a big impression with me. Odd, really, since it appears they'll be the final three and I woul dhave expected the editors to have played them up a lot.

I'd be happy with either the models or the beauty queens winning, which pretty much means from here on there's not a lot of drama. I have to give it to those two teams: they play well and they have a lot of fun.

Wouldn't it be a jaw-dropper if Bama won the race?

zordude

11-20-2006, 11:55 AM

I guess I'm rooting for the models now, but they look like they'll need a good dose of luck to keep it up.

I just need to add that I totally misread one of the words you typed, and it was a much more interesting comment.

:D

pantherman007

11-20-2006, 12:45 PM

still, I found it funny that ALL the contestants pronounced Kiev the way the travel agent did (sounded more like keev)...

The repeated "KEEV"s were driving me crazy. I could forgive it at first, but not after all the teams saw it written down - have these people never had chicken kiev before?

I was very disappointed in the Cho's. First gym-Cho has a panic-attack before repelling and makes his brother **who's more afraid of heights than he is** go down first. Then the endless asking for directions instead of just hiring a cab to follow. If ever there's a place to do that, it's in the country with the cyrillic that you can't read. Were they out of cash? With 'bama following like whining lemmings, they could have split the cost of hiring a tax to follow. Then gym-Cho starts crying on the finish map, waxing about the type of race they wanted to run. :down: Lame.

wendiness1

11-20-2006, 01:06 PM

So remind me . . . what was the deal with the early elimination in the first episode? It suggested that danger would be present thoughout the race and yet . . . never happened again.

So the Chos were on TV this morning, explaining that they had an agreement with the others to make sure they would pull eachother into the final three. Very nice but very flawed. First, it requires that ALL stronger racers are elminated and completely ignored the scenario wherein the last two teams to the pit stop are part of the alliance. Clearly, in this case, somebody's gotta go. What would they do then? Approach the mat together and leap onto it in unison, challening TAR to figure out what to do?

Seems like next week is the last non-elim. Given the new non-elim rules, it can't be any later in the race than this.

sketcher

11-20-2006, 01:14 PM

So remind me . . . what was the deal with the early elimination in the first episode? It suggested that danger would be present thoughout the race and yet . . . never happened again.
Not danger - just changes. We saw at least two in addition to the early elimination -- intersection, and the non-elimination=marked for elimination thing.

SeanC

11-20-2006, 01:31 PM

The repeated "KEEV"s were driving me crazy. I could forgive it at first, but not after all the teams saw it written down - have these people never had chicken kiev before?

Didn't the US recently officially change the pronunciation to KEEV? Maybe it was another city but I could swear I heard that the US had made that change and the Ukraine was very happy with the announcement.

Anubys

11-20-2006, 01:36 PM

Didn't the US recently officially change the pronunciation to KEEV? Maybe it was another city but I could swear I heard that the US had made that change and the Ukraine was very happy with the announcement.

Nope, the state department will from now on refer to it as Kyiv instead of Kiev...has to do with the way it is written over there or something like that...the way it is pronounced is the same, however, AFAIK...

Lee L

11-20-2006, 01:42 PM

I also noticed the KEEV thing, but the agent did pronounce it that way. Also, teh guy at teh mat said Kiev, but had the accent on the first sylable, like KEEv not on teh second like we do. Is it possible that in th eUS we have just said it wrong all along?

vman

11-20-2006, 01:43 PM

As I recall, it was the blondes that said Chernobyl was where the nuclear bomb went off, while Rob said that Chernobyl is in Russia, and even made some disparaging remark when Kimberly asked if he was sure.

SeanC

11-20-2006, 01:46 PM

Nope, the state department will from now on refer to it as Kyiv instead of Kiev...has to do with the way it is written over there or something like that...the way it is pronounced is the same, however, AFAIK...

Mmmmmmm, yeah, that's probably what I'm thinking about.....

(Not related to your post Anubys, just a random observation)

/me shrugs

There are always different pronunciations when you travel, doesn't make anyone wrong.

Amnesia

11-20-2006, 01:49 PM

Is it possible that in the US we have just said it wrong all along?Do we also mispronounce "Paris" (the natives say par-EE)? What about "France"? We say "France", they say "Fronce"... Of course, the French call our country "Les Etats-Unis", and that's nothing like we pronounce it...

pantherman007

11-20-2006, 02:12 PM

Do we also mispronounce "Paris" (the natives say par-EE)? What about "France"? We say "France", they say "Fronce"... Of course, the French call our country "Les Etats-Unis", and that's nothing like we pronounce it...

I'd argue that the pronunciation is generally dictated by the context of the language being spoke. While more correct from a local/native perspective, hearing "Mockba" instead of "Moscow" from someone speaking in English would be very strange.

There was nothing in last night's show to make me think they actually knew and were trying to use the local name/pronunciation. All signs point to ignorance ("Isn't that where the bomb went off?") and simply parroting what the travel agent said. That's my issue. :rolleyes:

Anubys

11-20-2006, 02:17 PM

Do we also mispronounce "Paris" (the natives say par-EE)? What about "France"? We say "France", they say "Fronce"... Of course, the French call our country "Les Etats-Unis", and that's nothing like we pronounce it...

well...that's just "the United States" in French!

they pronounced it the way the travel agent pronounced it...they had no clue about the name of the city...

had the agent told me Keev, I would have said "ok"...but once I read it, I would have started saying Kiev and not Keev...because, well, I went to high school and know stuff!

InterMurph

11-20-2006, 02:32 PM

OK, I'm no big fan of the Chos, but I must rise to their defense for this episode only.

Their goal in last night's episode was to finish not-last. If they attach themselves to Team Alabama, and stick to them the whole race, they simply cannot lose, because they can outrun them to the mat.

Conversely, Alabama eventually figured this out, and knew that their only hope was to separate, and hope that the Chos got lost. Not only did they get lost, they also got detained.

The beauty queens actually explained this strategy out loud; they wanted to split off from the druggie-models because if they arrived at the pit stop at the same time, they knew that they couldn't outrun them.

So given that this was the Chos' actual strategy, and that the "team six-pack" thing was just a front, let's just criticize them for being really lame at their strategy for this episode only.

Otherwise, everybody else is right, and they are lame at the entire race.

jradosh

11-20-2006, 02:58 PM

So given that this was the Chos' actual strategy, and that the "team six-pack" thing was just a front, let's just criticize them for being really lame at their strategy for this episode only.

Not only were they lame at their strategy, it was a lame strategy to begin with.

Why is it better to beat someone in a footrace than to pull far ahead of them and beat them by alot?

Answer... it's not. :)

pendragn

11-20-2006, 03:11 PM

Not only were they lame at their strategy, it was a lame strategy to begin with.

Why is it better to beat someone in a footrace than to pull far ahead of them and beat them by alot?

Answer... it's not. :)
Because they can help you earlier. You stick with them for as long as they can help you, then you ditch them. Since they can't help during the foot race, you ditch them then.

tk

InterMurph

11-20-2006, 03:12 PM

Why is it better to beat someone in a footrace than to pull far ahead of them and beat them by alot?

That's not the issue. This issue is, is it better to be guaranteed to win (via the velcro strategy) or to risk losing (via running the race on their own)?

It is clearly better to have a guaranteed win than it is to have a chance at a loss.

And remember, this strategy is valid for this episode only. It doesn't work once the population of "teams you can definitely outrun" is exhausted.

Which it now would be for the Chos, had they won.

goman

11-20-2006, 03:46 PM

Oh BTW everybody. The country is known as Ukraine, not THE Ukraine. Even Mr Kiwi was saying that. The Ukraine was a Soviet Republic. Ukraine is a country.

Idearat

11-20-2006, 04:00 PM

Oh BTW everybody. The country is known as Ukraine, not THE Ukraine. Even Mr Kiwi was saying that. The Ukraine was a Soviet Republic. Ukraine is a country.

Yeah, I caught that one too. When they mentioned "country where Chernobyl is located" I wondered how they'd refer to the country's name. I have to admit though that I'd have got it wrong a month ago before it was a daily double question on Jeopardy:
http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=1287

InterMurph

11-20-2006, 04:11 PM

Even Mr Kiwi was saying that.

He also refered to the "nucular" accident there. That takes him down a notch in my estimation, leaving him just 9,999 times the man anybody else dreams of being.

hyimted

11-20-2006, 04:49 PM

i'm officially bummed. the cho's are great guys and they played the game with honor, etc. but sheesh .... they should have seen that bama wasn't gonna hold up their end of the bargain. when they *waited* for the bama girls to finish, i almost screamed. i knew right there that they were toast.

even though they played this leg horribly, and i don't necessarily agree with their race tactics ... they were definitely classy guys. i still remember them taking a moment at the hanoi hilton (?) ...

----

guess i'm going for the models now, then rob/kimberly, then the barbies. i will go ballistic if bama wins ... they have horrible karma (remember when they cut in front of all those people waiting at the taxi line). they deserve to be skunked.

Savafan1

11-20-2006, 05:10 PM

Nope, the state department will from now on refer to it as Kyiv instead of Kiev...has to do with the way it is written over there or something like that...the way it is pronounced is the same, however, AFAIK...

Kiev is the Russian version, Kyiv is the Ukranian version. I don't remember where I read it, but I believe there is a nationalist movement that is wanting to remove the Russian influence from the Ukrain, and the change to using Kyiv is part of that.

DevdogAZ

11-20-2006, 05:10 PM

Yeah - I think the only thing that compared to it was doing the Dogfight last season (or was that the family season??).

The only other thing that I can come up with would be to take a ride on/in the Vomit Comet, or get launched off of an Aircraft Carrier...
The dogfight was during the Family Edition. I know that because it was right here in Mesa, Arizona, just a few miles from where I live. Here's the website (http://www.fightercombat.com/).

The Chos seemed to think this race was more like Survivor, where making an alliance and having allies in the game can help you get farther. They didn't seem to ever realize that being friends wouldn't get them farther in the race. Perhaps their strategy was such that they thought they could beat Bama in a footrace to the mat, but how lame is that? They claim to be friends and then throw them under the bus at the last minute? Stupid strategy.

Team Bama was driving me crazy. If you're so fed up with the Chos always stopping to ask questions, get your own map and leave them in the dust. Don't ride their coattails and then complain about their methods.

Here's hoping the Blondes win the race. They're the only team I'm really rooting for right now. They're fun to watch and seem like they're having a good time.

Can't believe nobody has mentioned how one of the models pinched the other ones arm when Phil was getting ready to tell them they came in first. Where are the people claiming that they're not gay? ;)

brianric

11-20-2006, 05:30 PM

The only other thing that I can come up with would be to get launched off of an Aircraft Carrier...
Had a chance on that one, but it would have cost me four more years in the Navy. :D

pmyers

11-20-2006, 05:33 PM

I can't believe nobody has said anything about the comment Kimberly's dude made about "having to watch out who does each task".....that sure sounded like there was still some requirement for each member to do a certain number of tasks even though we have heard nothing about it.

Also.....I'm beginning to thing that that same guy just can't drive a stick. I find it ironic that it has been him both times that a car has broken down and both were sticks.

ElJay

11-20-2006, 05:35 PM

I was hoping a team or two would buy tickets to Moscow. Oh well.

I did like the Ukrainian tank driving detour. I'm always impressed when the location scouts can come up with something as neat as that.

I'm surprised 'Bama put up with the Chos for as long as they did. It was nice seeing a polite team but the Chos simply took it to the point of stupidity.

brianric

11-20-2006, 05:37 PM

Chernobyl: Oh yeah, that's where the atomic bomb went off.

For all intents that is exactly happened at Chernobyl, a low level nuclear excursion. Reactor went critical on prompt neutrons alone, turning all that water into instant steam, ripping the reactor apart.

katbug

11-20-2006, 05:37 PM

Didn't we confirm a few episodes back that there was a requirement on how many tasks each team member could do again this season? I don't remember where I saw it...

I was thinking the same thing about Rob being the one driving. He doesn't belong behind the wheel...stresses out too easily and can't seem to drive a stick. Also, has there been a leg of the race where he hasn't thrown in the towel and said something to the effect of "That's it, we're finished"?

brianric

11-20-2006, 05:39 PM

My wife laughed at that as well - my only comment was that they probably weren't even born when that happened.
Chernobyl happened in 1986.

jhausmann

11-20-2006, 06:09 PM

Chernobyl happened in 1986.

That would put Dustin at 6 and Kandice at 4, when the meltdown occurred. Not your typical topic for girls, from that time and of that age, to remember....

Idearat

11-20-2006, 06:23 PM

For all intents that is exactly happened at Chernobyl, a low level nuclear excursion. Reactor went critical on prompt neutrons alone, turning all that water into instant steam, ripping the reactor apart.

Steam explosions and nuclear explosions are kinda different things.
But there are people who equate nuclear power plants with nuclear bombs, I guess she isn't alone in that respect.

As for the girls being young when it happened, I'm not sure I'd give them a pass on that. They also weren't around for Gettysburg, building of the Great Pyramid or the invention of the wheel. I'd hope they'd be vaguely familiar with one or two of these.

DevdogAZ

11-20-2006, 06:30 PM

Didn't we confirm a few episodes back that there was a requirement on how many tasks each team member could do again this season? I don't remember where I saw it...
Yes, it was confirmed earlier this season when one of the Philiminated teams was interviewed on The Early Show.

Jebberwocky!

11-20-2006, 07:33 PM

As for the girls being young when it happened, I'm not sure I'd give them a pass on that. They also weren't around for Gettysburg, building of the Great Pyramid or the invention of the wheel. I'd hope they'd be vaguely familiar with one or two of these.

I'd give them vaguely familiar with it - they did at least get the nuglear part :D

cyke93

11-20-2006, 07:38 PM

Agree with everyone, Cho's had to go. Although I don't like the Bamas too much, they deserve to win. They even asked them why they were stopping all the time. I would get frustrated too. I think they did the right thing. The dumbest move was that they didn't follow the Bamas. They would've followed them, and in a race to the top, who do you think would win. The Cho's (god bless them for trying to do the right thing) but when it comes to a race, right isn't always right.

Good for the bama's and i loved their rap hahaaha. With 4 teams left, I think the Bamas will be next. They have been struggling each time. The dating couple are funny to watch esp the guy but they also can not seem to keep up to speed with the barbies and models. In the end, i believe it will be the barbies and models. I think the barbies have a good chance to win it all but i am rooting for the models though. I'm glad they won this challenge. Finding that manuscript really didn't take long.

IJustLikeTivo

11-20-2006, 08:46 PM

For all intents that is exactly happened at Chernobyl, a low level nuclear excursion. Reactor went critical on prompt neutrons alone, turning all that water into instant steam, ripping the reactor apart.

What happened at Chernobyl was tragic but nothing like a nuclear bomb. No nuclear explosion occured, what happened was a steam explosion due to un-moderated nuclear fission. This caused a sharp spike in the output of the reactor until it was producing 10 times the rated power. This superheated the steam and blew the cover off the reactor. This allow oxygen to contact the graphite which caused a fire and added top the damage. Due to the lack of a containment vessel the radiation was discharged to the atmosphere and will again if they do not repair the sarcaphagus which is fatally damaged and near to collapse.

Bad, very bad, not nothing remotely like either a fission or fusion bomb. Think of it as perhaps the worlds ultimate dirty bomb.

TriBruin

11-20-2006, 09:27 PM

Yes, it was confirmed earlier this season when one of the Philiminated teams was interviewed on The Early Show.

I am pretty sure that Peter & Sarah confirmed that as why she was doing some of the Detour's that seems Peter was better suited for farther in the race.

Inundated

11-20-2006, 11:42 PM

I am pretty sure that Peter & Sarah confirmed that as why she was doing some of the Detour's that seems Peter was better suited for farther in the race.

Correct.

Yeah, I lost the Chos like everyone else on this episode. And I was screaming at both them and at 'Bama in that entire drive back into Kiev.

I'd still rather have 'Bama gone, but the Chos have lost a lot of their luster and pretty much deserved to get Philiminated this time around.

:up: for their overall attitude, :down: for boneheaded racing strategy and execution.

Speaking of attitude, this was a pretty good leg for both the Blondes and the Models. Both of 'em really seemed to be enjoying themselves the entire time.

OK, so when the only team with a remote chance of being in the top three with you is Rob Bicker and his gal Kimberly, you might have a little less pressure for a while.

I agree with my future TAR partner wendiness - we're definitely due for another non-elim. Too bad that means 'Bama stays on my screen for one week longer...

cyke93

11-21-2006, 01:35 AM

Correct.

Speaking of attitude, this was a pretty good leg for both the Blondes and the Models. Both of 'em really seemed to be enjoying themselves the entire time.

agreed. the cho's had a good time too but they focused way more on that than actually trying to win. the blonds and the models know how to have a good time but play the game. the blonds really liked the rap challenge and put heart into it, they were really having fun but still keeping an eye on the prize. but they always seem so bright and cheery and always agreeable, which is why i want the models to win. they have fun like the girls, but they make their mistakes as well and have minor arguments (though not to the extend as the boyfriend/girlfriend team, now she needs to drop him after this show, unless they win ahha but i doubt that). i remember them driving around and being last a few episodes ago (they managed to make it to like 3rd or somthing though).

either way, i was so pissed that i completey forgot TAR and didn't set up a season pass for it. thank god the football game ran late and i managed to catch at least the last 20 min

brianric

11-21-2006, 03:22 AM

Steam explosions and nuclear explosions are kinda different things.
But there are people who equate nuclear power plants with nuclear bombs, I guess she isn't alone in that respect.

As for the girls being young when it happened, I'm not sure I'd give them a pass on that. They also weren't around for Gettysburg, building of the Great Pyramid or the invention of the wheel. I'd hope they'd be vaguely familiar with one or two of these.
A reactor going critical on prompt neutrons is a nuclear explosion. Fuel is not as enriched with U235 as a weapons grade U235 bomb. Read about the accident in detail.

brianric

11-21-2006, 03:25 AM

What happened at Chernobyl was tragic but nothing like a nuclear bomb. No nuclear explosion occured, what happened was a steam explosion due to un-moderated nuclear fission. This caused a sharp spike in the output of the reactor until it was producing 10 times the rated power. This superheated the steam and blew the cover off the reactor. This allow oxygen to contact the graphite which caused a fire and added top the damage. Due to the lack of a containment vessel the radiation was discharged to the atmosphere and will again if they do not repair the sarcaphagus which is fatally damaged and near to collapse.

Bad, very bad, not nothing remotely like either a fission or fusion bomb. Think of it as perhaps the worlds ultimate dirty bomb.
Explain prompt critical. It was a nuclear excursion, as you said going 10 times its normal power.

VegasVic

11-21-2006, 08:33 AM

I disagree that it's a good strategy to keep someone close to you that you think you can outrun to the mat, thereby "guaranteeing" you won't be eliminated. We've seen enough cars break down to know it's a risky strategy.

And as we all saw Sunday night, all it takes is the team you are trying to stick with to take off on you and you are screwed. The Cho's were betting that Alabama would just follow them to the pitstop no matter how long it took. And while Alabama doesn't seem too bright racewise, even they figured it out.

IJustLikeTivo

11-21-2006, 08:40 AM

A reactor going critical on prompt neutrons is a nuclear explosion. Fuel is not as enriched with U235 as a weapons grade U235 bomb. Read about the accident in detail.

Your next post contradicts this. All reports call this a nuclear event, not a nuclear explosion. The core did not explode, they can't. They can melt and generate unbelieveable amounts of heat but they can't reach critical mass since the fuel is not enriched.

This web page has a very good explanation of the chemical explosion which occurred and how the design caused this during the failed experiment. It also points out the lack of critical mass in nuclear reactors.

Chernobyl Reactor Accident (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/reaction/readings/chernobyl.html)

pdhenry

11-21-2006, 09:47 AM

...but they can't reach critical mass since the fuel is not enriched...
Semantics: Any self-sustaining nuclear reaction (e.g.power plant) is defined as being "critical." If the power level is increasing (a little or a lot) the reaction is "super-critical."

Criticality is when the amount of neutrons absorbed by the nuclear material is just enough to cause enough fission to keep the neutron flux constant.

Rickover taught me a little, a while back...

Mikkel_Knight

11-21-2006, 10:06 AM

Can we get back to discussing Amazing Race instead of what is or is not a nuclear reaction?

IJustLikeTivo

11-21-2006, 10:10 AM

Can we get back to discussing Amazing Race instead of what is or is not a nuclear reaction?

Sure, I'm very critical of the reaction to the Cho's being idiots. Even if they are. ;-)

P.S. It was a nuclear reaction, just not an explosion. This kind of FUD is what keeps people from allowing nuclear plants to be built. They all think Atomic bomb when no such thing is possible.

Marco

11-21-2006, 10:42 AM

I really wanted to see somebody fly to the capital of Russia. :p

The Chos finally got their comeuppance from the Amazing Race Gods (no, not Phil Keoghan) for failing to comply with the "Race" part. Guys, if you didn't really want the million dollars, somebody else shoulda had your place on the show.

Next up for Philimination, 'Bama mamas. They are simply not going to be able to keep up.

martinp13

11-21-2006, 10:44 AM

I'm not a Bama fan but I really think they would have prefered the Chos heading out without them. I felt like Bama wanted to break away from the lost Chos a number of times but felt obligated to "follow" until, clearly, all the stopping for directions became overwhelming. You know that feeling when you run into somebody at the movie theatre that you know and they wait for you? Then you feel obligated to sit with them? Kinda like that. It would have been nice, however, if Bama had told the Chos a few days prior that they shouldn't wait around anymore.+1

And I don't think it was both Bama gals complaining. I think it was just the one in the backseat that bitched every time the Chos stopped. She wanted to break off, but I bet the other one would talk her out of it. Finally enough was enough, and frankly I don't blame them. I did yell at the TV a few times, telling the backseat Bama gal that if she didn't want the Chos stopping for directions, SHE should take the lead.

I'm hoping the models win, but won't be upset if the blondes win (of all the two-woman teams, I've liked them the best and would like to see them be the first two-woman team to win).

pmyers

11-21-2006, 10:58 AM

Yes, it was confirmed earlier this season when one of the Philiminated teams was interviewed on The Early Show.

But never confirmed on the show. That's silly. I like to know all the rules.

PJO1966

11-21-2006, 11:26 AM

But never confirmed on the show. That's silly. I like to know all the rules.

They probably never mention it on the show because it never becomes an issue... just a guess.

vman

11-21-2006, 02:28 PM

While I agree that Rob and Kimberly are not in the same league as the models and the blondes, I also would not completely write them off. Keep in mind in this episode they had a 30 minute flight delay, which meant there was a big separation from the start. Even with car trouble, Rob and Kimberly seemed to easily outdo the remaining members of the six pack (not a major feat admittedly). Had the roles been reversed, and the models and blondes had a 30 minute delay, it's interesting to see who would have won the leg. Random stuff like that can very much affect the race, so who knows who'll win!

ADent

11-21-2006, 05:12 PM

Bummer, I worked late and by the time I got home, Amazing Race were already over and I didn't taped that last 30 minutes!

I personal think that Amazing Race should move back to Tuesday's slot so it won't run late because of football game on Sunday!

You need to move West. We haven't had a delayed episode yet.

Maybe I should pad a bit in case of OT or something.

katbug

11-21-2006, 06:21 PM

Thank goodness none of ours have been delayed either. Never felt the need to pad, but will feel like a dolt if it ever runs over after all the warnings here.

KyleLC

11-21-2006, 08:18 PM

I just have a season pass for Cold Case, which comes on immediately afterwards.

Inundated

11-21-2006, 09:48 PM

I'm hoping the models win, but won't be upset if the blondes win (of all the two-woman teams, I've liked them the best and would like to see them be the first two-woman team to win).

The blondes, of course, both beauty pageant contestants, are not normally the kind of team I'd root for. I usually wince when that very phrase comes on the screen, and most seasons, the contestants in question are usually dumber than a box of...you know.

But Dustin and Kandice have been running a pretty smart race, and have had very few blowups. And with very few exceptions, I've enjoyed watching them race. At least what we've seen, of course, as they could well be getting the proverbial "winners edit".

And Rob/Kimberly could be getting a "losers edit". They still have a chance, tho.

I, however, would not really be thrilled to see them win. But it wouldn't be like me throwing things at the screen if 'Bama manages to make it to the million dollar prize...

Inundated

11-21-2006, 09:49 PM

I just have a season pass for Cold Case, which comes on immediately afterwards.

I pad TAR with my TiVo for one hour. I don't like having the thing shut off in the middle, and having to go find a second recording.

But upstairs, on my (mumblemumblenon-TiVo-cable-DVR), I do have the following shows recording separately, all the way through the 11 PM news, just in case.

KyleLC

11-21-2006, 10:53 PM

I pad TAR with my TiVo for one hour. I don't like having the thing shut off in the middle, and having to go find a second recording.My recordings are sorted by date, so Cold Case is immediately above TAR in the list. I like having it in two pieces, because if TAR didn't start late and it'll be a day or more before I can watch it, at least I can delete the Cold Case episode to free up an hour of space.

PJO1966

11-21-2006, 11:12 PM

Also, if you don't pad and only set up to record the following show, you might be out of luck the week CBS either airs a rerun of Cold Case or decides to run something else.

Anubys

11-22-2006, 07:39 AM

Also, if you don't pad and only set up to record the following show, you might be out of luck the week CBS either airs a rerun of Cold Case or decides to run something else.

that's exactly what I was going to say...

have I mentioned lately that I like how you think (and not just the perverted stuff!)? ;)