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driver49
11-16-2006, 01:35 PM
I'm not sure if this is the right place for this post, but here goes.

I need to see a copy of the CBS drama "The Unit," the episode broadcast this past Tuesday night, Nov 14.

Is there anybody within the sound of my keyboard who recorded that one who can knock of a VHS or (preferably) DVD copy?

I will gladly exchange a copy of my book "The Boy Who Invented Television" to anybody who can get me a copy of the show.

And no, I am NOT the copyright police.

Thanks,

--PS

Einselen
11-16-2006, 01:42 PM
Is there anybody within the sound of my keyboard who recorded that one who can knock of a VHS or (preferably) DVD copy?


This is copyright infringment. Asking could be considered conspiracy and anyone who replies and or shares could face legal action. There are other methods that you can try, still illegal, but probably better then posting here on the forum.

bpurcell
11-16-2006, 01:52 PM
Does CBS stream their shows on the web? Or maybe The Unit is on ITunes, and you can get a legal copy for 2 bucks?

phox_mulder
11-16-2006, 02:20 PM
Should still be up on CBS's Innertube.

www.cbs.com


phox

Bierboy
11-16-2006, 02:57 PM
Should still be up on CBS's Innertube.

www.cbs.com


phoxNot there.

mhn2
11-16-2006, 03:28 PM
This is a bit of a torrent question? :D

driver49
11-16-2006, 04:57 PM
I found the episode, called "Natural Selection" on the innertube site, thanks to the suggestions here. See... no copyright infringement at all. I all I needed was some info. Seems CBS actually WANTS me to see the episode. Whaddya know.

--PS

Einselen
11-16-2006, 05:02 PM
I found the episode, called "Natural Selection" on the innertube site, thanks to the suggestions here. See... no copyright infringement at all. I all I needed was some info. Seems CBS actually WANTS me to see the episode. Whaddya know.

--PS

Glad to hear you got it legally. Next time if you are looking for info then phrase it in a way so that you are not infringing on copyright (as in asking for VHS, DVD, .tivo, .mpg , .avi, etc.)

gastrof
11-16-2006, 05:26 PM
Would it be copyright infringment if you asked to borrow a tape or disc someone had already made? (Not have them copy it, but actually loan you the one they made.)

Einselen
11-16-2006, 05:27 PM
Would it be copyright infringment if you asked to borrow a tape or disc someone had already made? (Not have them copy it, but actually loan you the one they made.)

Yep, that is distribution.

Dan203
11-16-2006, 05:32 PM
Anything broadcast over public airwaves can be redistributed all you want as long as it's not rebroadcast publically. That's why the Broadcast Flag law was going to make it so all OTA broadcasts were marked "Copy Freely".

Now if this was an episode of the Sopranos from HBO it would be a different story.

Dan

Einselen
11-16-2006, 05:40 PM
Anything broadcast over public airwaves can be redistributed all you want as long as it's not rebroadcast publically. That's why the Broadcast Flag law was going to make it so all OTA broadcasts were marked "Copy Freely".

Now if this was an episode of the Sopranos from HBO it would be a different story.

Dan

I asked in gen chat forum the other day about this and once you give the copywritten materials to someone that is distributing it and violates copyright laws.

There is of course the "fair use" clause which applies to educational institutions, making personal backup copies of copywritten materials, etc.

phox_mulder
11-16-2006, 07:08 PM
I found the episode, called "Natural Selection" on the innertube site, thanks to the suggestions here. See... no copyright infringement at all. I all I needed was some info. Seems CBS actually WANTS me to see the episode. Whaddya know.

--PS

Glad you found it.

CBS might want you to watch it, but they really don't make it easy to find stuff on Innertube.

Needs to have a little more intuitive navigation added in.


phox

steve614
11-18-2006, 11:14 AM
I, too, missed an episode of 'The Unit'.

Just went to cbs innertube...seems that they have anything BUT 'The Unit' listed.

WTF?

phox_mulder
11-18-2006, 12:39 PM
I, too, missed an episode of 'The Unit'.

Just went to cbs innertube...seems that they have anything BUT 'The Unit' listed.

WTF?

Delve deeper.

Like I said in my previous post, Innertube isn't very intuative, you have to hunt for what you want.
They way they do it doesn't allow for a postable link, otherwise I'd show you where it is.


phox

gastrof
11-18-2006, 08:48 PM
I asked in gen chat forum the other day about this and once you give the copywritten materials to someone that is distributing it and violates copyright laws...


Could I ask who the source of this source is?

I mean, Dan sounded pretty sure himself.

If I buy a book, it's got a copyright. Am I not allowed to loan THAT to someone?

Einselen
11-18-2006, 09:05 PM
Could I ask who the source of this source is?

I mean, Dan sounded pretty sure himself.

If I buy a book, it's got a copyright. Am I not allowed to loan THAT to someone?

LoadStar was the main user who helped me through a lot of hypothetical situations. I asked what happens if I load up my Tivo with shows and sold the Tivo, I also asked about how I can keep a copy of my own show but then give that copy to my girlfriend (to watch or keep) and that is illegal. The reason given to me was that it could be argued that fair use would allow for personal backup copy but giving it to another individual is distributing copywritten materials.

The main case that would help in this discussion would be "Sony Corporation of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc." [464 U.S. 417 (1984)]

WitsEnd
11-21-2006, 10:53 AM
That case dealt with copying motion pictures released on DVD for archival purposes. It really doesn't seem relevant to this issue.

Dan203
11-21-2006, 01:04 PM
Anything broadcast over public airwaves can be recorded and shared with friends/family freely. The only restrictions are that it can't be rebroadcast and it can't be shown in a public venue. Now if you're talking about movies or TV shows from pay cable networks like HBO, etc... then that is a violation, but the OP was asking about a program broadcast by a public network so that doesn't apply.

Dan

Einselen
11-21-2006, 02:06 PM
Anything broadcast over public airwaves can be recorded and shared with friends/family freely. The only restrictions are that it can't be rebroadcast and it can't be shown in a public venue. Now if you're talking about movies or TV shows from pay cable networks like HBO, etc... then that is a violation, but the OP was asking about a program broadcast by a public network so that doesn't apply.


So anytime the big networks (CBS, Fox, ABC, etc.) show a movie one could copy those to DVD and then give out to friends, family, etc. Now what if (as this goes back to my question I asked over in Chit Chat) someone charges the cost to make the DVD (cost of the media, computer software, use of computer, use of person's personal time to cut commericals and setup the encode processes, etc). Then does that become copyright violation since there is now money involved and could be distributing?

Dan203
11-21-2006, 02:24 PM
The law technically protects your right to timeshift not archive. So you could share the movie with a friend or family member, but you're not supose to store it long term.

As for charging... You definitely can't profit from doing that. However if you charged exactly what it cost you for the materials to produce a DVD you'd probably be OK. Then again IANAL so I could be wrong on that.

Dan