The Amazing Race - 10/29/2006 [Text View]

TiVo'Brien

10-29-2006, 09:26 PM

Boy, Team Kentucky sure has the luck when it comes to non-eliminations! Only two in the whole race and they get 'em both.

Team Alabama, you two gotta go. And the sooner the better. :down:

I have to laugh at how TAR glosses over those torture plane rides. They left Kuwait at eight in the morning and didn't get to Mauritius until seven the next morning. Gawd, that'd be 23 hours of torture for me!

Raj

10-29-2006, 10:03 PM

So no mention of the accident at the mat?

Tivo'Brien - a plane ride has no scenery. It would be a waste of airtime in my opinion, and I don't know if they'd be allowed to film on the plane seeing how things are these days.

Raj

10-29-2006, 10:24 PM

Almost forgot -

"What country is London in?"

followed shortly by:

"This guy isn't exactly the brightest bulb..."

martinp13

10-29-2006, 10:25 PM

Kentucky was STUPID to leave the salt task, KNOWING that they'd be behind 4 other teams. Mary is worthless, sitting there on the salt bitching while her husband is digging for all he's worth. They would have had a MUCH better chance of finding ONE of the six+ shakers available.

They should be gone next week, since they can't use the FF (if available). I would like to see half of Alabama gone (can we keep Dave and the nicer Bama gal?).

InterMurph

10-29-2006, 10:33 PM

InterMurph

10-29-2006, 10:37 PM

Kentucky was STUPID to leave the salt task, KNOWING that they'd be behind 4 other teams.

Agreed. That task was basically handed to them on a silver platter: numerous teams arrive to find a total of 6 clues in 3 mountains of salt. All teams dig, and eliminate huge areas. Then they all leave.

That leaves Cletus & Brandine to find one of six clues in a limited amount of real estate.

This task is always brutal for the team searching for the last clue. But this should have been easy street for them.

tjramsey

10-29-2006, 10:51 PM

I found this at fly.emirates.com:

EK858 06 Nov 06 6:10 pm Departs Kuwait (KWI) Economy
06 Nov 06 8:40 pm Arrives Dubai (DXB) Non-stop

Connecting to

EK701 07 Nov 06 2:35 am Departs Dubai (DXB) Economy
07 Nov 06 9:05 am Arrives Mauritius (MRU) Non-stop

Total time (ignorant of time zones): 14 hours 55 minutes.

Yea, I was thinking that there must be a faster way through Dubai; I was thinking that they must have been limited in their airline choices

But if that schedule was the same at the time, guess it was faster to go through London. (If memory serves, they got to Maurtius at 8AM, right? I'm in a hotel, so I can't go back and check.)

I was pleased that it was a non-elim round, I somewhat like Kentucky, but I thought this was one of the more straight forward episodes so far..... none of the tasks looked THAT difficult..... so I figured they wouldn't possibly make it a non-elim leg..... guess that shows what I know, eh?
T.J.

Marc

10-29-2006, 11:28 PM

Almost forgot -

"What country is London in?"

followed shortly by:

"This guy isn't exactly the brightest bulb..."
I was surprised by that, but when they pulled out a map to show him about how circuitous the route was to go up to England, I figured that she must have been trying to confirm which country this particular London was in, in case there was some other intermediate point named London which made more sense.

The one thing I found kind of strange with this show's editing was when they showed Dustin & Kandice opening up their clue that directed them to the post office in Case Noyale, they blurred out the text on the "Route Info" sheet.

My son thought perhaps the whole page was just out of focus, but looking at it frame-by-frame, the rest of the sheet is in focus, and even the letters that are peeking out to the left of the blue folder flap are in focus, but then they get obscured as she pulls the page out.

I've never noticed them doing that before, so I wonder why they did it this time.

Animgif

10-29-2006, 11:31 PM

The one thing I found kind of strange with this show's editing was when they showed Dustin & Kandice opening up their clue that directed them to the post office in Case Noyale, they blurred out the text on the "Route Info" sheet.

My son thought perhaps the whole page was just out of focus, but looking at it frame-by-frame, the rest of the sheet is in focus, and even the letters that are peeking out to the left of the blue folder flap are in focus, but then they get obscured as she pulls the page out.

I've never noticed them doing that before, so I wonder why they did it this time.
I noticed that too and paused to check it out. Not sure why they did it this time, unless there was some kind of "helper" information they didn't want the audience to see.

martinp13

10-30-2006, 12:21 AM

It probably said "Whatever you do, DON'T get in an accident!" :D

getbak

10-30-2006, 12:25 AM

I noticed that too and paused to check it out. Not sure why they did it this time, unless there was some kind of "helper" information they didn't want the audience to see.

I noticed it too. Perhaps they didn't have a good shot of a team opening this particular clue, so they edited in a shot of a team opening another clue. Knowing the nerds with Tivos would pause their recordings to read the clue, they had to blur it out.

Also, there was no Road Block shown this week. It's possible that there was a road block, but it wasn't very interesting and/or they thought the auto problems were more interesting. They have cut out Road Blocks in the past because something else better happened during the leg.

Idearat

10-30-2006, 12:38 AM

Me, I'm tired of team KY. They are nicer than most of the other teams though, I'll give them that. The did blow it on the salt task, they went from maybe last to definitely last, not a good trade off. They could just have well been two scoops away from finding the shaker. I don't think I'd bet money on them being very methodical though.

No clutch in the car? Annoying, but not a deal breaker. I drove all around Las Vegas and then to Albequerque with no clutch once. Tricky, but very doable.

I have to say at this point the only team I'd be happy to see win would be the Cho Brothers. Insisting on waiting so long for other teams isn't helping them though. Helping and being nice is one thing, but hanging around while waiting for others to swim is another. The only way that helped the other teams is by making them less far behind the Chos.

Amnesia

10-30-2006, 12:40 AM

But if that schedule was the same at the time, guess it was faster to go through London. (If memory serves, they got to Maurtius at 8AM, right? I'm in a hotel, so I can't go back and check.)IIRC, they left Kuwait at 8:10A and arrived in Mauritius at 6:50A (which is 5:50A Kuwaiti time).

zordude

10-30-2006, 01:05 AM

I want the Cho brothers to win, but they don't really seem to want to. If you are in the bottom of the pack you don't wait for people to finish the challenge.

There is a lot of love here for KY, but I just can't stand them.

Z

Amnesia

10-30-2006, 01:10 AM

katbug

10-30-2006, 01:12 AM

Still rooting for the Cho's, but why, oh why, did they add 'Bama to their alliance?! That immediately took them and KY down a notch in my book. I may be rooting for the beauty queens over them now.

Boneheaded move of KY, as stated. It was obvious at that point that they would be dead last no matter what. Then they go to a golf club instead of the mansion?! At that point I was thinking I wouldn't even be real sad to see them go if they really have so little common sense! Still would rather see Rob+ or 'Bama go though.

One thing that puzzled me...usually when they're doing a task in another country, it's something helpful to that country. How helpful is it to spread out those salt piles that the person was obviously spending hours to make?!

Loved when one of the beauty queens asked Phil to go on the ride with her when she gets the motorscooter! "uhh...Umm.... turn off the camera please...hell yeah, I'll take you both on!...ok, roll cameras again". ;0) You gotta wonder if that's the unedited version.

Idearat

10-30-2006, 01:43 AM

One thing that puzzled me...usually when they're doing a task in another country, it's something helpful to that country. How helpful is it to spread out those salt piles that the person was obviously spending hours to make?!

Since last week I'd just read Salt: A World History I'd immediatly have gone for the salt challenge. I agree about having them mess up the pile. The producers turned it into another generic "Find the clue in the pile of manure/hay/sand/rocks/rugs" task.

A more "local" task have had them raking salt into a pile, but then I guess that was also done before in Senegal with the baskets and salt from a lake. (Where Don watched Mary Jean do the task )

UBUBUB

10-30-2006, 08:13 AM

The Six Pack's big mistake was choosing the task that each team had to perform individually. If they had thought it out and performed the task they could have performed as a group (the sails) they would have avoided the possibility of one of the Six-Pack teams finding the salt shaker first and then having to wait around for each other team to find it. As much as I like the Chos and Kentucky, they are making too many mistakes. Haven't they seen the needle-in-a-haystack tasks before? Especially the task a few years ago with the two blondes looking EIGHT HOURS for the literal needle-in-a-haystack.

Gunnyman

10-30-2006, 08:21 AM

Last night I stopped rooting for the Cho bros and am now pulling for the blonde girls.
Too many stupid moves by the "six pack" Also team Bama has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

TiVo'Brien

10-30-2006, 08:42 AM

I absolutely couldn't believe Mary when she, lagging the pack after having switched from the salt pile task to the search the island task said, "When we get to the pit stop, let's wait for Alabama." :eek: :eek: :eek:

Mary, wtf, do WANT to be eliminated???

Lee L

10-30-2006, 08:51 AM

Yeah, clearly the "six-pack" teams are confusing this show with Survivor or something. Team Alabama did have a minor point about the beauty queens helping the guys in line.

I think Mary did remember the needle in haystack challenge, she even said something like we are going to be the couple who is still looking for this thing after 8 hours. Of course, it would haev been more helpfull if she had spoke up a little more earlier when teh other teams convinced her to do that one over the sea.

I also think the beauty queens were just dombfounded that they would fly to London and then back down to Mauritius and that is why they were confused about London. I do wonde rwhat happened between the first kiosk and teh second one as they seemed to be willing to accept that routing the second time around.

WhiskeyTango

10-30-2006, 09:21 AM

Line of the night: (from the ticket counter scene)

Bama:"I can say whatever I want."

Models: "Try saying something smart."

scottykempf

10-30-2006, 10:29 AM

Loved when one of the beauty queens asked Phil to go on the ride with her when she gets the motorscooter! "uhh...Umm.... turn off the camera please...hell yeah, I'll take you both on!...ok, roll cameras again". ;0) You gotta wonder if that's the unedited version.

Well, this is from Wikipedia:

"Philip Joseph Keoghan (born May 31, 1967) is a New Zealand television personality, best known for hosting The Amazing Race on CBS, since its 2001 debut and No Opportunity Wasted on the Discovery Channel. Born in Christchurch, New Zealand, he has worked in over 70 countries as a television host, producer, writer, and cameraman. He currently lives with his wife, Louise, and daughter, Elle, in Los Angeles. They also have a home in Whitianga, on the Coromandel Peninsula, New Zealand."

So I think he would have said, "Sure, if my wife and kid can come along." LOL

katbug

10-30-2006, 10:35 AM

Ahhh, that does put a different light on things. Oh well, it was fun to think about anyway. I thought for some reason that I'd seen a ring on his finger at one point, but couldn't see close enough last night to confirm it. So, he was probably just thinking what I wrote rather than saying it. ;0)

scottykempf

10-30-2006, 10:36 AM

What the Heck Is "Booketing?"
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h230/scottykempf/Booketing.jpg

Watch Out For That......!!!

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h230/scottykempf/Girls1.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h230/scottykempf/Girls2.jpg

What did she do now???

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h230/scottykempf/Girls3.jpg

JFriday

10-30-2006, 10:38 AM

Line of the night: (from the ticket counter scene)

Bama:"I can say whatever I want."

Models: "Try saying something smart."

Don't you mean the Booketing counter? :D

scottykempf

10-30-2006, 10:43 AM

I wonder if Rob was only trying to get it in first? Did he even try any of the other gears? You just have to get your RPM up, and you can use 2nd, 3rd, or 4th without having 1st. ???

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h230/scottykempf/Rob1.jpg

Whoopsy!!
Kim: What did you do?
Rob: I FELL!!!!!!

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h230/scottykempf/Rob2.jpg

Anubys

10-30-2006, 10:55 AM

I think team Blonde was still wondering what country that island was in...they asked the question several times...the guy was explaining the itinerary when he mentioned London...Blonde girl was not listening and was still asking what country the island was in...ticket guy, not understanding, thought she was asking about London (since he was just talking about it)...

at least, that's how things seemed to me...

martinp13

10-30-2006, 10:57 AM

"Booketing" cracked me up. Of all the teams, I think the race is wearing down KY the most. Also the Alabama gal that snapped. The others seem to be doing ok, but you never know when they'll hit "the wall".

The "intersection" game mechanic looks interesting, but I think they should have introduced it earlier. Down to six teams, there aren't that many permutations and groups may have already formed. Would have been better introduced in the first episode.

Sirius Black

10-30-2006, 11:00 AM

I agree that Bama had a point about the Blondes helping the Models in the ticketing line. What if the flight had been full after the second set of tickets?

What's with Katy Kaboom and the car that wouldn't work? He blows his stack after about 30 seconds of the car not working?

efilippi

10-30-2006, 11:18 AM

The "intersection" game mechanic looks interesting,

I must have missed this? What is a game mechanic?

HDTivoDesire

10-30-2006, 11:42 AM

I must have missed this? What is a ...?

It was in the previews for next week. OP probably should have used spoiler tags to comment on that.

JFriday

10-30-2006, 11:49 AM

I wonder if Rob was only trying to get it in first? Did he even try any of the other gears? You just have to get your RPM up, and you can use 2nd, 3rd, or 4th without having 1st. ???

I'm pretty sure he said he couldn't get it any gear.

katbug

10-30-2006, 11:55 AM

I agree that Bama had a point about the Blondes helping the Models in the ticketing line. What if the flight had been full after the second set of tickets?

Then I would have been in my bliss to see 'Bama go home! :D Of course, if it had been any other team, I would have been outraged.

scottykempf

10-30-2006, 11:59 AM

I liked seeing how the girls were upbeat and positive, while some of the other teams were very angry and negative. "Were not going to say things about the car in a negative way, and it's going to be fine."

jking

10-30-2006, 12:18 PM

I think at this point Mary is more interested in the "Six Pack" mentality than winning the race. She likes the idea of being on a team and is willing to do things like wait for 'Bama girls at the mat and give up on the salt task even though it will obviously put them in last place, as long as she is back with her little "clique". Bad idea, Mary. It will get you eliminated soon, although you probably would have already been gone if it wasn't for your friends.

Cho's really made a mistake this week by waiting for everyone else to finish the swim. I was glad to see them take the race to the mat a little more seriously. When KY is likely eliminated next week, they need to cut bait with 'Bama and try to move themselves into a lead position for the home stretch. It appears 'Bama would have already done the same if they were actually ever in a position to do so.

The intersection thing next week looks interesting. It appears as if the six teams will have to join up into 3 groups of four (Family Edition-type task?), which explains why they had another non-elim leg so quickly. They had to have an even number of teams to make the intersection work.

Magnolia88

10-30-2006, 12:31 PM

I am still liking the Cho brothers but this "six pack" mentality is just DUMB.

There was absolutely NO reason for them to wait for Alabama and Kentucky to finish the swimming! I couldn't believe they just stood around waiting. Do they not get that this is a RACE? How is waiting around for the other two teams going to help them? It makes no sense at all, and it just slows them down again and again.

At this point, I'm rooting for the beauty queens b/c at least they get the concept of a race.

Sirius Black

10-30-2006, 01:00 PM

At this point, I'm rooting for the beauty queens b/c at least they get the concept of a race.

They aren't the only team that gets this fact but at this point in the race, they are the only team playing to win.

There is some arrogance on the part of the Cho team when they claim they are the strongest of the 3 in the six pack.

It isn't necessary to be cut thoat in the competition but it is necessary to recognize that it is a competition. The Bama team said on numerous occasions last night that she wouldn't wait for any of the other 2 teams if it meant losing.

...and Katy Kaboom and his girlfriend/fiance/wife should have been gone a long time ago. Neither one of them are doing the other any good.

InterMurph

10-30-2006, 01:01 PM

I am still liking the Cho brothers but this "six pack" mentality is just DUMB.

There was absolutely NO reason for them to wait for Alabama and Kentucky to finish the swimming!

Here's what I think they were thinking. Their alliance will be the last three teams to arrive at the pit stop. They can easily outrun both of the other teams. So what does it cost them to wait? Pretty much nothing. And what do they gain? The admiration, respect and loyalty of their alliance.

I don't think this is the correct way for them to think. And I think that watching [Kar]Lyn zip past them at the end, when they were asking for directions, should help them understand this.

Magnolia88

10-30-2006, 01:08 PM

Here's what I think they were thinking. Their alliance will be the last three teams to arrive at the pit stop. They can easily outrun both of the other teams. So what does it cost them to wait? Pretty much nothing. And what do they gain? The admiration, respect and loyalty of their alliance.

I agree that seems to be the Cho brothers' "strategy."

But as you point out, there is no guarantee that they are going to be arriving at the mat at the same time as other two teams in the "six pack." As TAR has shown us again and again, ANYTHING can go wrong for any team at any time - car trouble, a fender bender, getting lost, etc.

I can understand having an agreement to help each other out by sharing information, but standing around and waiting for another team to finish a task just because of some "six pack" alliance is just dumb, dumb, dumb. There is just no point to it -- it doesn't help the team you are waiting for and it just slows you down. Even the Bama team said they would never just wait around for the other six-pack teams. I can't root for the Cho brothers when they act like they don't even care if they win or not.

Joeg180

10-30-2006, 01:27 PM

If a yeild was encountered the other teams could all yield a six pack team? The only way this is going to work is if the Cho's get to the front of the pack and screw with the non six pack teams....

I'm afraid of fishes

I was thrown in the lake when I was 5, traumatized me..

TiVo'Brien

10-30-2006, 02:36 PM

.....I was thrown in the lake when I was 5, traumatized me..It's kind of a rite of passage. :p :rolleyes:

pmyers

10-30-2006, 02:49 PM

I have to go "booket" myself some tickets! ;)

katbug

10-30-2006, 03:01 PM

I'm afraid of fishes

This was my hubby's favorite part.

I was thrown in the lake when I was 5, traumatized me..
This is how we learned in Oregon too...I'll blame everything bad in my life on learning to swim in a lake. :p

pmyers

10-30-2006, 03:04 PM

why oh why would any of the teams actually choose the task where you had to "find a needle in a haystack"?

I did think it was especially cruel of the producers to put in the salt shakers with no clues.

LooseWiring

10-30-2006, 03:19 PM

Team Bama has to go. Followed immediately after by Team Kentucky.

It's disgusting how nice "Murray" is to everyone but "Dive". She treats him like crap and he just takes it.

cherry ghost

10-30-2006, 03:19 PM

Also, there was no Road Block shown this week. It's possible that there was a road block, but it wasn't very interesting and/or they thought the auto problems were more interesting. They have cut out Road Blocks in the past because something else better happened during the leg.

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bobsbizzy

10-30-2006, 04:44 PM

I don't understand all the people rooting for the Chos. In fact, I don't like any of the teams in the "back pack" (though of the three, I dislike the Chos the least).

I want the beauty queens to win...and if not them, the male models (and weren't they the only ones to correctly pronounce "Mauritius"?)

I paid particular attention to this. 5 of the 6 teams incorrectly pronounced Mauritius, only the Cho brothers got it right. (Unsurprisingly as they seem to be the only ones aware of the world outside their own surroundings). The blondes really screwed up the pronounciation - several times.

BTW, today I had a call from a telemarketer who said her name was Tunisia, and spelt it for me, and I said, "as in the country", and she said, amazed, "yes its a country in Africa - how did you know that!". :eek: :)

bobsbizzy

10-30-2006, 04:47 PM

This was my hubby's favorite part.

This is how we learned in Oregon too...I'll blame everything bad in my life on learning to swim in a lake. :p

Wow, I've heard of throwing dogs into the lake so they can learn how to swim, but not kids. I know I fell into a river once, and was thrown into the deep end of a public pool once, before I knew how to swim, and would have drowned both times if someone hadn't rescued me. So I don't quite understand the concept of young children learning to sink or swim on their own. I'd guess for every one that swims, 9 would drown!! :down: :)

bobsbizzy

10-30-2006, 04:49 PM

BTW, the beauty queens are running a good race and I only wish they could drop the bitchy comments and actions that have been totally unneccessary. I guess after all those years of competing in pagents it's hard to put these types of actions behind you.

katbug

10-30-2006, 05:06 PM

Wow, I've heard of throwing dogs into the lake so they can learn how to swim, but not kids. I know I fell into a river once, and was thrown into the deep end of a public pool once, before I knew how to swim, and would have drowned both times if someone hadn't rescued me. So I don't quite understand the concept of young children learning to sink or swim on their own. I'd guess for every one that swims, 9 would drown!! :down: :)
Hmmm...well, there were 7 of us kids in my family and 6 survived... :rolleyes: jk. No, we all survived being thrown off the dock by my dad, we just learned to doggy-paddle quickly!

TIVOSciolist

10-30-2006, 05:31 PM

The one thing I found kind of strange with this show's editing was when they showed Dustin & Kandice opening up their clue that directed them to the post office in Case Noyale, they blurred out the text on the "Route Info" sheet.

My son thought perhaps the whole page was just out of focus, but looking at it frame-by-frame, the rest of the sheet is in focus, and even the letters that are peeking out to the left of the blue folder flap are in focus, but then they get obscured as she pulls the page out.

I've never noticed them doing that before, so I wonder why they did it this time.

Sometimes the teams have to do something that doesn't make it on the air. It's possible that the page required them to perform a task that wasn't shown.

On the other hand, why then bother to even show the page?

heySkippy

10-30-2006, 07:18 PM

Anubys

10-30-2006, 07:31 PM

I paid particular attention to this. 5 of the 6 teams incorrectly pronounced Mauritius, only the Cho brothers got it right. (Unsurprisingly as they seem to be the only ones aware of the world outside their own surroundings). The blondes really screwed up the pronounciation - several times.

I'm well educated, born outside the U.S. (Africa), been to many countries and continents, speak 3 languages fluently...

...and never heard of Mauritius and wouldn't know how to spell/pronounce it or find it on a map...

Neenahboy

10-30-2006, 07:41 PM

Jayjoans

10-30-2006, 09:56 PM

As I've said before, this is my first season of TAR, but one thing in particular bugs me. Maybe it's been discussed in the past, but here it is.

The last 10 or 15 seconds of the show before the break are the same 10 or 15 seconds of the show after the commercial. WTF is up with that? Do they think our memories are so short? Annoying as hell.

It's more pronounced/annoying with Tivo, since there is no "break" so facilitate the forgetting. Keep in mind that the unwashed masses have to actually watch the commercials.

The boy models are really giving me the willies, especially this episode. The Gaydar is on overdrive with those two......

Only one team to root for now, the blondies. Used to like the Chos, but the stupid factor has now overtaken the kind quotient. Alabama can burn, Kentucky is a freak show and she treats him poorly, the Bickersons both need a timeout.

I liked it better in past seasons where there were at least a couple of teams that deserved to win.

tjramsey

10-31-2006, 12:09 AM

I agree that seems to be the Cho brothers' "strategy."

But as you point out, there is no guarantee that they are going to be arriving at the mat at the same time as other two teams in the "six pack." As TAR has shown us again and again, ANYTHING can go wrong for any team at any time - car trouble, a fender bender, getting lost, etc.

I can understand having an agreement to help each other out by sharing information, but standing around and waiting for another team to finish a task just because of some "six pack" alliance is just dumb, dumb, dumb. There is just no point to it -- it doesn't help the team you are waiting for and it just slows you down. Even the Bama team said they would never just wait around for the other six-pack teams. I can't root for the Cho brothers when they act like they don't even care if they win or not.

I agree completely that it isn't a good strategy, BUT, I think the idea further is that if they stick together with the two teams they feel sure they can beat in a footrace, they won't come in last... they hope that if one gets lost, they all will; at least they will know where they stand, and not be unsure if anyone passed them along the way by finding a shortcut or something.

I can understand the strategy, but as Magnolia88 and others have pointed out, there are just WAY to many ways for that to backfire, especially after the first episode with the surprise elimination, you couldn't be sure that this is like other TARs, which have always been a series of races where the object is to not come in last, with only the last leg being important to win. They've seen an instance where that was not enough, so they should be considering that 2nd to last might not be good enough in one of these.

-T.J.

Inundated

10-31-2006, 12:17 AM

Never has it been so hard to agree with a team on the short end of the stick from another team, but that's the way it was with the Lyns and that whole incident with the BQs and the models.

They were right, technically. But I wanted them to be wrong. I actually want them to be sent home to Alabama, without even sequestering. :D

What happened to Ms. Mary Loving and Hugging Everyone Except Dave? I don't recall seeing her nearly strangle some poor resident of Mauritius at random telling them how much she loved them, like a pet or something. That was fun early on, but it got old, particularly since she seems to treat them better than she treats Dave...

I'm not rooting against the Chos now, and still like them, but it'd be nice to see them start acting like this is more than an extended vacation with some buddies they met along the way. And despite them saying they aren't doing so, I'm quite sure they are keeping their strategy in part because they feel they can beat two weak teams at the end.

getbak

10-31-2006, 12:54 AM

http://wadeonbirmingham.smugmug.com/photos/106477042-O.jpg

Well, that answers that.

The Road Block was probably between the swim to the boat and the post office. The blurred clue probably sent the teams to the Road Block location.

wendiness1

10-31-2006, 11:33 AM

I'm glad Kentucky will be around for at least one more episode but what the heck was she thinking about - waiting for Bama at the pit stop?

As much as I don't like Bama, they did seem sincerely bummed out when they said "we know who 6 is."

The finish had me worried. I thought perhaps all three (Chos, Bama and KY) would be in a foot race. Bama would run like hell, Chos and KY would stop to exchange a "look", then KY would graciously let Chos take it in repayment for the FF earlier. Thank God it didn't come to that. I truly hope this close call makes all three decide the alliance doesn't include waiting for another team to catch up - although Bama seems to already know this.

martinp13

10-31-2006, 12:11 PM

I don't think the Bama girls are bad people. This is a stressful race, not real life.

heySkippy

10-31-2006, 12:18 PM

I don't think the Bama girls are bad people. This is a stressful race, not real life.
I would agree with that. I've known quite a few people not that different from them.

bobsbizzy

10-31-2006, 01:00 PM

DavidTigerFan

10-31-2006, 01:28 PM

[QUOTE=Sirius Black]I agree that Bama had a point about the Blondes helping the Models in the ticketing line. What if the flight had been full after the second set of tickets? [QUOTE]

Agree. A low class act by the blondes. :down:
LOL, I love how people equate how teams act in a RACE for a million dollars to how you should act in real life. You can damn sure bet I'm gonna lie and push to get you out of the way if I'm on the race.

ROMBER 4eva!

DevdogAZ

10-31-2006, 01:29 PM

I gained new respect for the blondes in this episode, and nearly lost all my respect for the Chos. I can't stand either 'Bama or Kentucky and can't understand why anyone would jeopardize their chances in the race in order to help them. I was pissed when this was another Non-Elim. That's just not at all interesting to see Dave & Mary in the back. That's where they always are.

In the argument at the "Booketing" counter, wouldn't it have just been easier for someone, anyone, to ask one of the guys behind the counter if the flight is close to being full? If it's not, then none of the arguing matters. Of course, CBS thinks that arguing makes for good TV, so even if someone did do this, they probably wouldn't show it.

Anubys

10-31-2006, 01:30 PM

I don't think the Bama girls are bad people. This is a stressful race, not real life.

I counter by saying that it's only under stress where the real person comes out...everyone agrees with "women and children first" but then when the ship is sinking, how many men will push the women and children out of the way to get on that lifeboat?

I also don't agree about the low-class act of the Blondes...the Bama girls pushed a kuwaity man out of the way and ordered him not to help the blondes earlier...they don't have a problem with playing dirty, either...

dirtypacman

10-31-2006, 01:50 PM

DevdogAZ

10-31-2006, 01:53 PM

Very sad to say I missed this episode due to CBS and sunday football .. ughh... THE ONE TIME I FORGET TO PAD IT!!!

Anyhow sounds like it was a good episode and just reading this thread should keep me up to speed for next week. Very disappointed though I could not see this one.
Isn't it available on CBS.com? Lots of their shows are available there for free, but I'm not sure if this is one of them. Might be worth checking out.

dirtypacman

10-31-2006, 01:55 PM

Isn't it available on CBS.com? Lots of their shows are available there for free, but I'm not sure if this is one of them. Might be worth checking out.

not at this time I could not find it just bits and clips.

Havana Brown

10-31-2006, 01:58 PM

I'm smeeking, but too bad.

I think now I'll be rooting for the 1-3 teams from this episode. I'm so over the Cho's. Yeah, they were nice enough, but now they're just playing stupidly. Even the Bama girls weren't going to wait up for anyone.

I was glad to see James and Tyler swim so fast and catch up and even pass the Bama girls.

I was really liking the blondes this episode. I thought the London thing was funny, but I was also having a blonde moment. I thought Mauritius was the Mariana Islanda, I think they're a commonwealth of the U.S. so I was totally thrown where they were geographically. I thought the blondes ran a good leg and had a good time doing so. I'm rooting for them now. The Chos, KY, and Bama can all leave. I think the blondes, Rob n' Kim, and the male models will make for an exciting final 3.

DevdogAZ

10-31-2006, 02:04 PM

I was glad to see James and Tyler swim so fast and catch up and even pass the Bama girls.
The Models didn't pass anyone on the swim, did they? I thought they got there last and were still last when they left. I don't think the Chos would have waited for everyone if they wouldn't have known that the models were still out there in the water.

Havana Brown

10-31-2006, 02:21 PM

Sorry, I meant that they were able to make up some ground from the huffing and puffing bama girls.

scottykempf

10-31-2006, 02:23 PM

Very sad to say I missed this episode due to CBS and sunday football .. ughh... THE ONE TIME I FORGET TO PAD IT!!!

Anyhow sounds like it was a good episode and just reading this thread should keep me up to speed for next week. Very disappointed though I could not see this one.

The internet is your friend.

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neilaevans

10-31-2006, 02:37 PM

DevdogAZ

10-31-2006, 03:06 PM

Hey all,
I've only watched the last few seasons of AR and don't read the threads regularly, so sorry if this has been covered before.

Do we know for sure whether the decision to make a given round a non-elim is made BEFORE the start of the round, or do they make that decision as the round progresses? It struck me as a awfully convenient that D&M got a second non-elim round, and so soon after the first one... And I seem to recall non-elims feeling very convenient in previous races as well.

And info or wild speculation appreciated!
Phil has always referred to them as "Pre-determined non-elimination legs." I suppose it's fun to play conspiracy theorist and wonder if they purposely threw them in at this point to save a certain team, but I seriously doubt that they'd do that. Besides, why on earth would they want to keep Dave & Mary in the race? They are horrible racers, she's not at all nice to him, and they're a drag on the other teams. I just don't understand the love for Kentucky.

neilaevans

10-31-2006, 03:22 PM

I forgot about the "predetermined" - thanks devdogaz!

marksman

10-31-2006, 03:40 PM

Kentucky was STUPID to leave the salt task, KNOWING that they'd be behind 4 other teams. Mary is worthless, sitting there on the salt bitching while her husband is digging for all he's worth. They would have had a MUCH better chance of finding ONE of the six+ shakers available.

I agree. Horrible decision. It was dumb. Your best chance was staying there, with everyone else leaving. In fact with everyone else leaving, it made your choice to do the salt a really good one.

InterMurph

10-31-2006, 03:45 PM

And I seem to recall non-elims feeling very convenient in previous races as well.

How could a non-elimination leg ever be considered anything but "convenient"?

Thanks to the quiz show scandals of the 1950s, the federal government has oversight of such things. The producers have to play fair.

marksman

10-31-2006, 03:55 PM

I think the models clearly called out the Cho brother strategy. Whether it is deliberate or accidental, I think they clearly see their opportunity if the six pack makes the final 3.

neilaevans

10-31-2006, 04:35 PM

How could a non-elimination leg ever be considered anything but "convenient"?

Thanks to the quiz show scandals of the 1950s, the federal government has oversight of such things. The producers have to play fair.

I meant "convenient" in the sense that it would be "convenient" for the producers to have a particular team stay in the race, for whatever reason (their estimate of the likely popularity of the team, that team's penchant for drama, etc).

And yes, I know about the quiz show scandals. I'd say there's possibly a difference between directly feeding answers to a contestant (as in the 50s) versus allowing a team to continue, particularly if the option of that team continuing is built into the rules of the show.

It's all moot however, I forgot about the "predetermined" - with that in there, I will take Phil and company at their word and take off my tin foil hat.

martinp13

10-31-2006, 04:41 PM

I counter by saying that it's only under stress where the real person comes out...everyone agrees with "women and children first" but then when the ship is sinking, how many men will push the women and children out of the way to get on that lifeboat?I don't agree at all. You mean if I lead a good life, polite to everyone, then get on one of these shows, push and shove and lie to win a million dollars, then that means I'm really a 'hole??? I don't think so... it means I'm playing a game and acting in the manner I need to to win the game. Or the game has beaten me down to the point where I'm not acting but just reacting. :)

I also don't agree about the low-class act of the Blondes...the Bama girls pushed a kuwaity man out of the way and ordered him not to help the blondes earlier...they don't have a problem with playing dirty, either...I thought was the blondes did was low, but so was what the Bama girls did. No argument there!

DevdogAZ

10-31-2006, 04:44 PM

How could a non-elimination leg ever be considered anything but "convenient"?

Thanks to the quiz show scandals of the 1950s, the federal government has oversight of such things. The producers have to play fair.
I think we've discussed previously that shows like TAR and Survivor are classified as "unscripted dramas," not as game shows, and as such, they're not subject to the same regulations that a typical game show would be subject to.

martinp13

10-31-2006, 04:51 PM

I think we've discussed previously that shows like TAR and Survivor are classified as "unscripted dramas," not as game shows, and as such, they're not subject to the same regulations that a typical game show would be subject to.Really? I find that hard to believe, since there's real money on the line.

Marco

11-01-2006, 09:39 AM

Team Kentucky just don't have what it takes and should've been gone TWICE now. This week was especially bad -- as has been said, you spend that much time on the salt pile and THEN switch tasks? They deserve to be gone.
No love for Team 'Bama either, they're just getting meaner as time goes by.
The Chos are worth watching, but they are being awfully foolish running the race this way. I'm half hoping their strategy backfires and they don't make the final 3.

Amnesia

11-01-2006, 10:18 AM

I'm half hoping their strategy backfires and they don't make the final 3.I'm all hoping.

I'd like the final three to be the non-alliance members...

Havana Brown

11-01-2006, 11:41 AM

I'm all hoping.

I'd like the final three to be the non-alliance members...

See post #71. :) :up:

bobsbizzy

11-01-2006, 04:41 PM

I think the models clearly called out the Cho brother strategy. Whether it is deliberate or accidental, I think they clearly see their opportunity if the six pack makes the final 3.

And pigs might fly. :D

Seriously, if they have planned to win a Million dollars with that strategy, then they are crazy!! :(

Cragmyre

11-01-2006, 04:48 PM

All the Cho brothers need is one more of the first 3 to get eliminated, then cancel their alliance and they'll be in the top 3 (most likely)

heySkippy

11-01-2006, 06:56 PM

Is there something special about being one of the top 3 teams?

Magnolia88

11-01-2006, 07:05 PM

Is there something special about being one of the top 3 teams?

Uh, you get a chance to win a million dollars?

The final 3 teams participate in the last leg of the race and 1 of those teams wins.

heySkippy

11-01-2006, 07:42 PM

The final 3 teams participate in the last leg of the race and 1 of those teams wins.
Gotcha.

Roadblock

11-02-2006, 04:29 AM

There is some arrogance on the part of the Cho team when they claim they are the strongest of the 3 in the six pack.

I think that's less arrogance and more plainly obvious. You think 'Bama or Kentucky have a real chance to win?

Roadblock

11-02-2006, 04:40 AM

LOL, I love how people equate how teams act in a RACE for a million dollars to how you should act in real life. You can damn sure bet I'm gonna lie and push to get you out of the way if I'm on the race.

That part didn't bother me. But when the blondes were on their boat back from the island, passing other teams, they started taunting the other teams, waving and chattering, and making snide comments when the other teams didn't share their enthusiasm. They said that the other teams weren't very friendly, and that the 'Bama team needed to take their friendly pills in the morning, or something similar. Well, they weren't being friendly either, just smug and condescending. I wouldn't mind seeing them knocked out because of it.

katbug

11-02-2006, 12:56 PM

See, I took it completely differently. The other teams have treated the beauty queens like parriahs all this time and they've still tried to be friendly (ok, I think they've pretty much given up on 'Bama, with good reason!) and I think they were still trying to just say "HI" to the other teams (I didn't get from them that they were being snide or taunting). Yeah, there might have been a little bit of "yes! we can still do this even with everyone treating us badly!" thrown in, but I don't think they were gloating or being rude in the least bit. And I definitely agree with them that 'Bama needs to take some friendly pills!!!

NinerK

11-02-2006, 01:07 PM

Almost forgot -

"What country is London in?"

followed shortly by:

"This guy isn't exactly the brightest bulb..."

At first I thought "these gals are priceless" but then I realized the dudes behind the counter weren't doing them any favors. They could have explained why the airline had to fly them to the hub then back down to the island instead of straight there. Instead they smiled while watching them pace in front of the counter freaking out. :down: Although, they are male so they probably enjoyed that in more than one way.... ;)

NinerK

11-02-2006, 01:11 PM

And I definitely agree with them that 'Bama needs to take some friendly pills!!!

:up: Bama gals are the ones that tried to cover the mouths of the cab driver.

However, the "recovering addicts" dudes; totally eggin the bama girls on; at the airline counter. Not cool.

Dreaday

11-02-2006, 08:40 PM

:up: Bama gals are the ones that tried to cover the mouths of the cab driver.

However, the "recovering addicts" dudes; totally eggin the bama girls on; at the airline counter. Not cool.

I have to agree with you there that was not cool at all! This show can never get old!...I saw a commervial for this show called Everest where amature climbers try to take on Everest...has anyone else heard of it?

Sirius Black

11-03-2006, 09:13 AM

I think that's less arrogance and more plainly obvious. You think 'Bama or Kentucky have a real chance to win?

If I look at it objectively, no, neither of those teams has a chance to win.

However, there are a couple of teams remaining that should have been eliminated long ago. Katy Kaboom and wife/girlfriend/whatever come to mind.

There is a line between doing whatever it takes to win and winning honorably. You can respect your opponent(s) during the course of "battle" and still emerge victorious. The contempt a few of the teams have for each other is just poor sportsmanship, IMO. Maybe I'm just being naive.

uncdrew

11-03-2006, 10:15 AM

One of the state teams is out this week. Guaranteed.

Personally, I like the Cho strategy. It's like being chased by a bear. You don't have to be fastest, just don't be the slowest. Sure you could trip on a log and lose, but so could the person in first place. And if you trip when in an alliance, perhaps there's a chance someone will help.

By being in that team, they severly reduce their chances to finish first or last. If Bama or Kentucky actually figure something out or do something wise, Cho's benefit. Cho's IMO are viewed as the leaders, so they can probably sway the other two groups to follow their lead.

Thus they get to act and make decisions as if they were playing solo, yet also get two slow and out-of-shape groups to follow them, brainstorm with, hold places in line, etc. So the footrace to the pad is what they have to win.

Look at Peter and Sarah. Arguably smarter and more in shape than the six-pack, but off on their own and they lost. If they had 2 groups with them, perhaps they wouldn't have been eliminated.

I think the Cho's are wise enough to ride this alliance as far as it will get them. Thus far they've never finished last. I think they should bail on the alliance once Bama or Kentucky are off the show, which is most likely this week.