After transferring lifetime to new S3, is the 12 month subscription transferable?

[dtobey]

I'm going to be transferring my old lifetime subscription from my old series 2 to my new series 3. I will have no use for my Series 2 and would love make sure it finds a new home and Tivo is kind enough to grant it a 12 month subscription as part of the VIP program. Does anyone know if I can sell my Series 2 to someone else, along with the 12 month subscription?

[bpurcell]

No, the 12-mo. free subscription is only for your account. You can still sell the box without a termination penalty, but it will lose its remain free time.

[Gai-jin]

sell the box, but advise them not to change it to their own account until after the year

[lessd]

sell the box, but advise them not to change it to their own account until after the year

You will start to get charged if you don't cancle by the end of the year AND this would like putting a TiVo in your account for a friend so your friend could pay $6.95/month (to you) instead of the normal $12.95/month to TiVo. It is against TiVos TOS and cost TiVo loss revenue; doing ether could make TiVo cranky.

[Gai-jin]

You can easily call tivo to deactivate it at the end of that year, or change the credit card that one is billed to, perhaps to one of those disposable types.

And is it against TOS to pay for someone else's tivo on your account? Not looking for the MSD of course

[bmgoodman]

You will start to get charged if you don't cancle by the end of the year AND this would like putting a TiVo in your account for a friend so your friend could pay $6.95/month (to you) instead of the normal $12.95/month to TiVo. It is against TiVos TOS and cost TiVo loss revenue; doing ether could make TiVo cranky.

It doesn't make it right, but somehow I care less about Tivo TOS than I used to. Maybe it's when the TOS allowed them to swap my speedy Tivo for a slow Tivo to give me more useless "features". :eek:

[lessd]

It doesn't make it right, but somehow I care less about Tivo TOS than I used to. Maybe it's when the TOS allowed them to swap my speedy Tivo for a slow Tivo to give me more useless "features". :eek:

Good point..when my bank paid me a high interest rate on my CDs I would not dream of robbing them, but now with rates so low....maybe I will reconsider that position.

[bmgoodman]

Good point..when my bank paid me a high interest rate on my CDs I would not dream of robbing them, but now with rates so low....maybe I will reconsider that position.

Yeah, that's a good analogy. :rolleyes:

& I didn't say it would be "right". Just that it would cross my mind.

Now that I think about it, maybe I will print out the TOS, mark out the parts I don't like, add in things I do like, and then I'll mail it to Tivo with the stipulation that unless I hear otherwise, the revised TOS will be in force. Hey, if software companies can change TOS after the fact, why can't we?

Of course, IANAL.

[Gai-jin]

It's the new Vista EULA that's got me pissed lately... I'm sorry, but if I buy a piece of software, I can install it on any pc I like. And so long as I remove it from one, I can move it to another whenever I like. The fact that the new eula is going to limit that is just ridiculous. I'm seriously thinking they'll end up getting sued over that one.

[dtobey]

That's what I feared. But I see some units on ebay advertising 12 month subscriptions that are so obviously former lifetimes.... So, this would be wrong? Why am I still tempted?

We have one television and don't want one anywhere else. We're upgrading to HD, so it makes us need this old one even less. Ugh...

[bpurcell]

So, this would be wrong? Why am I still tempted?


Not to equate this to petty larceny, but being tempted to do something is human nature. If someone thinks they can get away with it, than it's natural to be tempted to do it. Look at the number of people who illegally download copyright music online, just because they know they won't be punished for it. I've heard countless people argue how what they are doing isn't wrong, but since it plainly says the rules on EVERY CD case they don't have much of a leg to stand on. The only real defense they have is that the RCAA isn't going to crack down on them, unless they go overboard.

I believe selling your second Tivo with one year free to someone and letting them stay on your account is against the TOC (at least the spirit if not the letter). On the other hand, I doubt Tivo will crack down on it, unless they see it is becoming a problem for them. You have to decide whether bending or breaking TOC's is within your ethics. For me, that would be against my personal ethics. But that's me.