what games are out there for tivo?

[dugbug]

Other than the handful of services and three games that appear when you hook up its internet access, are there any other neat tivo services or games to connect to?

-d

[classicsat]

Did you check out apps.tv?

[bnm81002]

Did you check out apps.tv?



I wanted to make sure, there are no charges, correct? thanks

[bnm81002]

Did you check out apps.tv?



I wanted to make sure, is this for DTivo units as well?

[Bighouse]

Did you check out apps.tv?

Wow, that's pretty cool- is it safe?!? No possibility of viruses, etc?

[supasta]

Wow, thats great!

[classicsat]

apps.tv is free, and apparently no virii or worms (I don't think the HME engine would allow that, as it is a Java Virtual Machine of sorts, I believe).

HME apps, like at apps.tv, are only for Series 2 and Series 3 standalones with 7.x or higher software, not DirecTV DVRs.

[Dan203]

The HME platform puts all the executeable code on ther server. The TiVo simply acts as a UI which sends your button presses to the server, which in turn tells the TiVo what to draw on screen. It's similar to how Remote Desktop works. There is no danger to the TiVo at all, since it doesn't actually execute any code locally.

No if you install an HME app on your PC, like Galleon, then there is danger of getting a virus on your PC. However at this point the number of HME apps available are small, and most are developed by members of this forum. So you shouldn't be too concerned with that.

Dan

[gonzotek]

The HME platform puts all the executeable code on ther server. The TiVo simply acts as a UI which sends your button presses to the server, which in turn tells the TiVo what to draw on screen. It's similar to how Remote Desktop works. There is no danger to the TiVo at all, since it doesn't actually execute any code locally.

No if you install an HME app on your PC, like Galleon, then there is danger of getting a virus on your PC. However at this point the number of HME apps available are small, and most are developed by members of this forum. So you shouldn't be too concerned with that.

DanDan's absolutely correct, but I wanted to clarify that Galleon (galleon.tv) itself is not dangerous to install. It's an open source project almost entirely developed by one person. Anyone with the requisite technical ability can examine the source and independently verify it to be safe. It is possible that an overly aggressive anti-virus or anti-malware product could give a false positive when scanning the galleon installer or program directory. If that happens, the correct course of action is to contact the anti-virus or anti-malware vendor and report the versions of galleon, the scanner in use, and the specific message you're getting. I try to provide them with as much info as possible, like the website I downloaded from and whatever else I feel might help. Assuming it is indeed a false positive, you should get a reply from them indicating that it was an error. I've had false positives happen on a few installers, and that's always been my experience.
So, long story short, Galleon is safe to use, but always run current anti-virus and anti-malware software.

[Dan203]

Sorry, I wasn't trying to say that Galleon itself was a virus. I was simply using it as an example of a PC based HME app, as opposed to apps.tv which is all server based.

Dan

[gonzotek]

Sorry, I wasn't trying to say that Galleon itself was a virus. I was simply using it as an example of a PC based HME app, as opposed to apps.tv which is all server based.

DanNo worries, I knew what you meant, just wanted to be sure people not familiar with galleon and HME knew it was safe to install. :)

[Bighouse]

No worries, I knew what you meant, just wanted to be sure people not familiar with galleon and HME knew it was safe to install. :)

ok, I'll bite- I'm not familiar with Galleon...what is it?

[gonzotek]

Quoting from the Galleon website (galleon.tv): Welcome to Galleon

Galleon is a free open source media server for the TiVo® DVR which allows you to enjoy many kinds of content and interactive applications right on your TV. The server runs on your home computer and organizes your media collection so that they can be viewed on your home network. Galleon also brings Internet content and applications to your TV.

Winner of the "Most Creative Application" in the TiVo Developer Challenge

You can watch this video of Galleon running on a TiVo DVR.

Galleon features

The Galleon software runs on your PC and hosts applications that can be viewed and controlled on your TiVo. Here are some examples of what the Galleon applications will let you do on your TiVo:

Play MP3 files using the builtin player or with your favorite Winamp skins.
View your photo collection using many slideshow effects and background music.
View interesting information about each MP3 file such as album covers, lyrics and web images of your favorite artists.
Listen to online streaming radio stations including Shoutcast stations.
Organize your media files in many flexible ways.
Play your favorite playlists including iTunes playlists or dynamically create playlists.
View local weather forecasts and alerts.
View internet webcams.
Read your email.
Read your favorite RSS feeds.
Automatically download recordings from your TiVo using keywords.
Automatically download your favorite podcasts.
View local movie listings.
Copy video files from your PC to your TiVo using GoBack.
View Internet Slideshows.
View online Videocasts.
View upcoming events in your area.
View traffic conditions in your area.
Change the look-and-feel of Galleon by using your own skins.
Share your apps over the internet with your family and friends.
Group all the Galleon apps in their own menu .
Send instant messages with Jabber .Basically, it provides enhanced media/internet capabilities to TiVo, via some software running on a local pc (mac, win, or linux based). It has some minor quirks and can be somewhat of a resource hog, but is still very useful. It can all but replace the functionality of tivo desktop. The only feature it can't provide that TiVo Desktop on Windows will is .tivo decoding/playback (due to the TiVo DRM filter dll TiVo Desktop installs).

[classicsat]

The HME platform puts all the executeable code on ther server. The TiVo simply acts as a UI which sends your button presses to the server, which in turn tells the TiVo what to draw on screen.

Are you sure?

I was under the impression that the TiVo fetched an applet from the internet or wherever and ran it on the TiVo, getting extra content from the net as needed, and sending enterd data (or keeping it on the local HHDD).

[gonzotek]

Are you sure?

I was under the impression that the TiVo fetched an applet from the internet or wherever and ran it on the TiVo, getting extra content from the net as needed, and sending enterd data (or keeping it on the local HHDD).It's essentially a multimedia-capable dumb terminal. The server (local pc or internet node) sends commands to the TiVo, and the TiVo sends events (such as remote keypresses) back to the server. All of the logic processing takes place on the server. Nothing ever, ever reaches the HD. That was a basic design decision by the TiVo HME development team. One of the most often requested protocol enhancements is the ability to place and manipulate content on the TiVo HD, such as video and audio podcasts; as well as access to the other stored data and metadata on the HD(i.e. ToDo List/History) and programmatic control over stored recordings(for instance, imagine a batch playback HME app).

You can read about the current protocol here(it's their developers docs, but I've linked to the overview page):
http://tivohme.sourceforge.net/docs/hmesdk/01_Overview.html#wp1007925