Jericho 10/11/2006 (S01E04) "Walls of Jericho"

[dswallow]

So there's this group of people who had warning of the bombings... and for all appearances the members of one of the families don't seem to think much of having had that warning... they're not totally freaked out or acting in any terribly strange manner. And apparently they had some sort of metting/rallying point.

And somehow they're all in communication electronically/wirelessly, but maybe not in real time.

[BeanMeScot]

Hawkins told Victor that it was supposed to be only families. He has a family but a made up one. Victor could not let his family die? Was he safe with a made up family and suddenly decided to get his real family? Lots of questions but few answers.

[dswallow]

Hawkins told Victor that it was supposed to be only families. He has a family but a made up one. Victor could not let his family die? Was he safe with a made up family and suddenly decided to get his real family? Lots of questions but few answers.
Hawkins also asked why Victor went back to Denver... I was thinking the 20 or so people at the lake were the friends he went back for. So were they just too close when the bombs went off, or did he go back after the bombs went off?

[drew2k]

I'm starting to lose interest in everything BUT Mr. Hawkins. Jake needs to not be everywhere at once, the townspeople need to stop chugging all those beers and shooting pool, and the mayor needs to do more planning, organizing, and rallying.

When did the other three deputies die? The sheriff bought it in the pilot - I don't recall when the others did.

When the mayor asked those who are missing someone they love to please stand, I thought it was interesting that Hawkins' family stood up immediately, but he didn't. I noticed the Mayor's wife and Jake also stood up ... is there another family member we don't know about? Could it have something to do with Jake's mysterious 5-year absence from Jericho?

[Skittles]

I'm starting to lose interest in everything BUT Mr. Hawkins. Jake needs to not be everywhere at once, the townspeople need to stop chugging all those beers and shooting pool, and the mayor needs to do more planning, organizing, and rallying. I agree 100%. SuperJake to the rescue AGAIN tonight with the gas? C'mon.

I'm starting to think this show may be a little too "CBS" for its own good. In a series dealing with the possibilities of a nuclear war and possibly the end of American society as we know it... they take the easy way out way too much. They have too many convenient things happening for such a small town. And considering they've just found out that war is possibly breaking out, that chaos is reigning in the rest of the world, and that the foundation of western civilization may be crumbling... we see them chugging back beers, the Mayor is doing god only knows what (we've barely seen him do ANYTHING so far) and everyone is acting like this was just a bad rainstorm.

It's a nuclear afterlife, for crying out loud. It's SUPPOSED to be this dark story. Don't give me a goody two shoes CBS version.

And if the solution to every problem is "Jake to the rescue", they're gonna lose my viewership. Fast.

[scottykempf]

Geek Girl: "Steel? There's too much chance of a static charge."
"No, be careful. If we cause a spark..." guy knocks off valve on the tank. LOL

4 Days After the Nukes.........WE HAVE A KEGGER!!!! And make fun of the weird guy!!!

[unicorngoddess]

Yes, THIS was the episode that finally made me shout...THIS IS JERICHO NO THE JAKE SHOW! Although it was great when whathisface just jumped up and knocked off the lid to the gas transporter thingy while Jake and the other girl were arguing about what could happen.

[berkchops516]

wow this show had so much potential. Such a let down. Why do i feel like this is seventh heaven after a nuclear attcack. I'm gonna give it another week or two but if they don't stop with the CHEESE i'm def cancelling my SP

[scottykempf]

I officialy declare that grocery store lady as mentally impaired. Last episode she didn't even figure out that if the meat was going to go bad, that they should eat it instead. This episode, when Dale brought here the food from the train, she says "But this food isn't ours. Not all ours, anyway." Uh hello, lady, remember those mutiple major cities wiped out by dozens of nuclear weapons? ANY food that you find in this situation you should grab. Spread it out among the people of Jericho, but she acted like they were stealing (OH MY GOODNESS!!!).

[jsmeeker]

as far as I'm concerned, Hawkins is the "main guy" now. Jake doesn't mean much.. Where was he? Why was he gone?? I don't give a crap now. I don't think it has any bearing on the show. It's all about Hawkins and what he knows and what he is up to.

[drew2k]

Geek Girl: "Steel? There's too much chance of a static charge."
"No, be careful. If we cause a spark..." guy knocks off valve on the tank. LOL
That reminds me ... there's a potential for the container to blow, and then they transport it over bumpy dusty roads with all three sitting in the front seat! :p

[drew2k]

I officialy declare that grocery store lady as mentally impaired. Last episode she didn't even figure out that if the meat was going to go bad, that they should eat it instead. This episode, when Dale brought here the food from the train, she says "But this food isn't ours. Not all ours, anyway." Uh hello, lady, remember those mutiple major cities wiped out by dozens of nuclear weapons? ANY food that you find in this situation you should grab. Spread it out among the people of Jericho, but she acted like they were stealing (OH MY GOODNESS!!!).This also reminded me ... The train was obviously far enough out of town that no one else noticed it, so how did the store clerk kid transport all those canned goods from the disabled train to the store? On his bike basket?

I really wanted to like this show more than I am ... I guess it's all up to Hawkins to keep us coming back to Jericho.

[zordude]

Hawkins told Victor that it was supposed to be only families. He has a family but a made up one.

I took that scene with the family to mean that it was his real family, with a made up history. Not a made up family.

Z

[Sadara]

as far as I'm concerned, Hawkins is the "main guy" now. Jake doesn't mean much.. Where was he? Why was he gone?? I don't give a crap now. I don't think it has any bearing on the show. It's all about Hawkins and what he knows and what he is up to.

This Hawkins guy is the only reason I'm still watching the show. The rest of the towns people bore me silly really. I have a few complaints about some of the things going on. Kinda wish they would stop showing the bar unless there is something useful to show on the TV about the world around them. But, as long as Hawkins is a mystery I'll keep watching and hoping that the rest of the story line gets better.

[Rob Helmerichs]

That reminds me ... there's a potential for the container to blow, and then they transport it over bumpy dusty roads with all three sitting in the front seat! :p
The potential blow was when there was a spark, e.g., when a hose with a metal end was put into it, or when the lid was chisled off. As long as it was sealed, there would be no way for a spark to get into it.

[jsmeeker]

I'm glad we cleared up that it WAS a nuclear device, and not something silly like a bunch of meteor strikes.

[bpurcell]

Did anyone see the legalese on the computer screen at the end? There was a mention of the software by Mackay. Mackay is a city in Queensland, Australia near the coast. If you do a search, you'll see that Jericho is a city in the Outback not that far from Mackay. Is there a clue here?

[dswallow]

And if the solution to every problem is "Jake to the rescue", they're gonna lose my viewership. Fast.
Jake can rescue me anytime. :p

[brott]

Did anyone see the legalese on the computer screen at the end? There was a mention of the software by Mackay. Mackay is a city in Queensland, Australia near the coast. If you do a search, you'll see that Jericho is a city in the Outback not that far from Mackay. Is there a clue here?

Maybe a clue as to where the show producers found some of the city names. I don't think it means anything else.

[dswallow]

The background really was just a sort of common type of web site disclaimer/legal notice. I thought at least at the time it was just their way of saying the communication with whomever else is involved was taking place via web sites.

[Rob Helmerichs]

Did anyone see the legalese on the computer screen at the end? There was a mention of the software by Mackay. Mackay is a city in Queensland, Australia near the coast. If you do a search, you'll see that Jericho is a city in the Outback not that far from Mackay. Is there a clue here?
Yes, this show is actually set in Australia. The real mystery is why everybody thinks they're in Kansas.

(And why the Australian Outback looks like Vancouver...)

[newsposter]

I saw a show the other day that actually was set in vancouver...but it looked like they were on P3x452a ?

I'm getting a Runaway vib here with our friend. Tune to CW this weekend to find out more

3 more days on the generator..um...dont these people think long term? I have no solution as i'm assuming you cant plant seeds now, but i would think there would be a big deal about the new found food and rationing it. And WHY would anyone need their car at a time like this..where do you have to go...the movies?

[waldingrl]

Thanks to Hawkins they have me hooked for another week.

Also, please add me to the not liking SuperJake club. Can this guy *ever* screw up??

[Hersheytx]

I will give it one more episode. Then I just have the 3rd Tivo record it, but not watch. Until someone tells me its safe to go back in water.

When I compare this to Heroes I just get sick.

Oh why can't this show be more on the edge. I was hoping for something like THE STAND. Or at least Battlestar Galactica. Give it a chance to make you gasp. or wimper.

Oh well.....

[cheesesteak]

I really, really, really want to like this show. However, I think this is one of those shows that looked great as an outline but only got the B-team to flesh it out.

I agree with all the critism of Super-Jake. If I wanted to see the same guy save the day every week, I'd watch Smallville.

The mysterious Mr. Hawkins is more intriguing than any of the Others in Lost, at least for the time being.

I thought it was funny that one deputy thought that the tanks that were seen could have been manned by al-Quaeda members. Like they were somehow going to get tanks from the Middle East to Kansas in a couple of days.

I think this show is doing a disservice to teenagers. Sure, teenagers are selfish jerks sometimes but I doubt if they'd be holding raucous parties in the middle of a nuclear holocaust.

Kinda dumb that the only person smart enough to think about finding food supplies is a kid.

Is it wise to have the townspeople all liquored up in a state of emergency?

Jake's brother's affair with the bar owner is so obvious even Stevie Wonder would have mentioned it to his wife by now.

[mmilton80]

I like Jakes unspoken girlfriend...she seems like a good egg. I wonder if she has always lived there and knows Jake from before, or if she is really an other.

[vikingguy]

I have a lot of complaints about the show including super jake. To complain the show is not dark enough is not one of them. This is prime time network TV it is never going to be that dark. To expect it as dark as battle star well is just crazy it is like expecting 5 star quality out of mcdonalds. Mr. Hawkins and the whole who did the nuking is enough to keep me watching for now. I just hope that the super jake stuff is just temporary while the show gets its feet wet. The show has a lot of potential I just hope it can live up to some of it by the end of the season.

[Martyp]

Well I will give it a few more shows.

I just have aproblem where they get simple things wrong.

Having had a big dish (12 foot). If you have power to run the tv and the sat box you have power to move the dish. If the dish wont move you can just remove the motor arm and the dish will swing threw the sat arc.

She has all those flat screens for the bar and still has a big dish not dish or directv.

That here they are out in the middle of no where and not many folks have generators or that not many of the farms have gas tanks for the farm trucks.

That here it is after the bombs drop and the store still takes cash. Just seems like a waste .

I would be stocking up on all the food and water and med supplys I could get my hands on .

That here is a town that folks seem to have lived their whole life and they need flashlights to get around after dark.

That after the cook out they left so many lamps lit with no one there .

[Domandred]

I'm gonna need something really exciting after last nights episode.

Last night was uninteresting imo other then Hawkins/Victor knowing each other. Problem is in order to figure out what is up with them (and at least two others) we'll probably have to sit through the season of the SuperJake Show to find out.

Oh yea and I was right in my post last week. I KNEW that kid was going to somehow manage to get all the food from the train to the store by himself. Easy way out. Ug. Course if they didn't do the easy way out they would have to do the SuperJake way out which would have been worse I guess.

My SP count down has started. Two more episodes and if something really suprising or something really really good/cool doesn't happen the SP is gone and I'll torrent download the show commecial free later if it picks up.

[bruinfan]

after 4 eps, you guys are sick of superjake?? he's been superjake from the getgo... like i said a couple of weeks ago, jake worked at ctu all those years he's been gone... that's where he got his save the day experience. nuclear bombs??? sheesh... small potatoes for jake.

i felt this episode was the strongest of the season, which really isn't saying much. the last 3 eps, there were lol moments for me left and right, as in stupid writing lol's. this episode only made me laugh twice... the kid transporting food by himself from the train, and the fact that jake's bro got people to donate gas for the clinic, and he ends up giving it to the bar. also, the hospital is on conserve mode, with no lights on, and the bar even has the neon beer signs on. funny.

dying to know where it's going with hawkins, and who attacked the us... can't... stop... watching...

[Domandred]

after 4 eps, you guys are sick of superjake?? he's been superjake from the getgo...

I was tired of SuperJake at ep2. Pilot I cut a LOT of slack to the star of the show.

My main problem isn't that he is SuperJake, my main problem is that everyone else in the town seems as dumb as rocks and can't get things done themselves (except SuperBoy train unloader...still can't remember anyone's name except Jake and Hawkins lol).

I know he is the star but cripes even if he was SuperJake but got things done on luck or accident (ala Indiana Jones) that would be better.

[dswallow]

I can see that a large population would prefer drinking themselves into oblivion after knowing several nuclear bombs were detonated over major cities. What I'd say is odd is that there's that few people at the bar, and that the bar hasn't run out of alcoholic beverages yet. Most bars I know order liquor/beer weekly based upon what they anticipate needing. They've got to have a busier time right now and it's been 4 days already.

I can understand some people trying to tune out that it happened at all (e.g., the grocery store woman who was concerned about it not being her food to sell).

I can understand them not having their satellite dish motorized if they had it principally for specific sporting event channels.

I can understand some people thinking stupid things (like tanks in Kansas being from Al Quaeda)... there's simply some stupid people out there who have no reasoning ability, compounded by the stresses of knowing about the detonations...

I can understand the kids wanting to drink themselves into oblivion too. And needing to do it away from the adults.

[DougF]

I think the cast is too big. It works for "Lost". It ain't working here.

And somehow, with that many characters, Jake is everywhere. Another problem.

I keep watching because I'm interested in the premise, but I'm close to dropping it.

[dswallow]

I keep watching because I'm interested in the premise, but I'm close to dropping it.
Don't make that decision until after the 10/25/2006 episode.

[Sadara]

I can see that a large population would prefer drinking themselves into oblivion after knowing several nuclear bombs were detonated over major cities. What I'd say is odd is that there's that few people at the bar, and that the bar hasn't run out of alcoholic beverages yet. Most bars I know order liquor/beer weekly based upon what they anticipate needing. They've got to have a busier time right now and it's been 4 days already.

I keep hoping that the next show is going to show them running out of beer at the bar. If it doesn't happen in the next two shows, it's going to start getting very distracting to the rest of the story.

[jpwoof]

Don't make that decision until after the 10/25/2006 episode.

Whats on Oct 25?

[tivoboyjr]

Whats on Oct 25?

That's the special Halloween episode where everyone in Jericho dresses up like radioactive zombies.

[Tersanyus]

I want to love this show too. But I can't get past the fact that everyone just wants to drink and play pool. The bar has a big dish. But I can't believe in this whole dang town not one other person has Dish Network or DirecTV? Come on. No way. A nuke wouldn't stop the small dish services from working.

Oh wait a minute. A nuke destroying Denver would kill Dish Network. I know a great deal of the company is in the Denver area. I don't know if the transmitters for Dish Network would be near Denver though. Probably close enough to kill off all of Dish Networks tranmitting stations.

Where is DirecTV? Big city that may have been destroyed too?

And I took the family as being his real family with a made up story.

I hope this gets better and soon. It seems most new shows I watch that get really interested in get the axe fast. I remember feeling that about Lost over 2 years ago. I thought it was a great show but figured it would get the axe after 4 or 5 shows.

[tivoboyjr]

And I took the family as being his real family with a made up story.

I did, too. That seemed pretty clear to me.

Instead of being a former St. Louis cop, he is a government agent, terrorist, or something else that he doesn't want known in Jericho. Seems that he moved his family there to keep them safe as he had some advance knowledge of the bombs. Same deal, apparently, with Victor.

The daughter made a comment about it being a joke that their mom was playing the role of a stay-at-home mom when in reality the mom was the one out working to take care of the kids, while dad/Hawkins was never home (as he was busy being a government agent, terrorist, etc.)

[Rob Helmerichs]

The daughter made a comment about it being a joke that their mom was playing the role of a stay-at-home mom when in reality the mom was the one out working to take care of the kids, while dad/Hawkins was never home (as he was busy being a government agent, terrorist, etc.)
And during the Q&A test, when the son's answers were "Daddy" and "Mommy" it seemed pretty clear to me both from his delivery and from Hawkin's reactions that it was no longer a game.

[Martyp]

I can understand them not having their satellite dish motorized if they had it principally for specific sporting event channels.

.

Yes but how many bars still use a big dish . If you go back and look at the part where they show them moving the dish it has the motor arm:).

Also the dish would be very easy to move by just taking the motor arm off where it hooks on to the dish( I am sure they must have tools). The dish just by pushing side to side would still track the sat belt.

You would also need to move it very slow stopping every few inches and trying every channel before moving on.

Who knows what info they are not getting by not checking more sats channels.

[jones07]

Sounds like we have and old BUD owner in the crowd :p

*BUD aka Big ugly Dish aka C-band Dish

[dswallow]

Sounds like we have and old BUD owner in the crowd :p

*BUD aka Big ugly Dish aka C-band Dish
I also used to have a 12-foot Paraclipse C/Ku-band satellite dish.

[jsmeeker]

Yes but how many bars still use a big dish . If you go back and look at the part where they show them moving the dish it has the motor arm:).




I still see a lot of BUDs at sports bars. In fact, it's probably one of the few places I DO still regularly see them.

[tivoboyjr]

I still see a lot of BUDs at sports bars. In fact, it's probably one of the few places I DO still regularly see them.

I see a lot of Coors at sports bars as well.

[stellie93]

So if Hawkins and his pals knew the bomb was coming in time to get to a new town and buy or rent a house--who could they possibly be? Surely if the government knew exactly which cities were going to be hit when, they could have done something about it. And I just can't believe Hawkins is an evil terrorist. He's got to end up being a good guy. They'd better have a good explanation for this!

[Martyp]

I still see a lot of BUDs at sports bars. In fact, it's probably one of the few places I DO still regularly see them.


Yes but 99% of the time they are not in use . Its a real big pain to get rid of them I guess

[dswallow]

So if Hawkins and his pals knew the bomb was coming in time to get to a new town and buy or rent a house--who could they possibly be? Surely if the government knew exactly which cities were going to be hit when, they could have done something about it. And I just can't believe Hawkins is an evil terrorist. He's got to end up being a good guy. They'd better have a good explanation for this!
Reality is probably that it just isn't possible to evacuate 10 or 20 major cities; there's no infrastructure for it, and if they do indeed get hit by nuclear detonations, there's even less infrastructure for the remaining population. The reality might simply be you evacuate important assets if you can and you just have to let the rest go.

[RoundBoy]

Mr. Hawkins is the only reason I watch now.. I end up FF through:

The retarded shopkeeper (I need my car?!)

The teenagers (I need a party?!)

The uber:kidd (I unload a bulk frieght train 5 miles away.. alone)

The uber:jake (the world's knowledge is my playground)

The retarded town government (Can we please have gas ?)

I am interested only in who Mr hawkins is, and who this group that he works with / for is.

[jwjody]

Didn't see it mentioned but when Jake was coming out of the shower was he wearing dogtags? There's been speculation about where he's been but I don't remember him mentioning military training in the show.

Well he did tell someone he was in the Navy but they thought he was lying.

J

[DougF]

Didn't see it mentioned but when Jake was coming out of the shower was he wearing dogtags? There's been speculation about where he's been but I don't remember him mentioning military training in the show.

Well he did tell someone he was in the Navy but they thought he was lying.

J

I think he told one person he was in the Navy and someone else he was in another branch.

[RoundBoy]

he also said playing minor leauge baseball.. dogtags do not always = military .... you can buy them with anythingyou want on them.

[ElJay]

Superjake's omnipresence doesn't bother me much since he's the main character... However, his brother seems to be everywhere as well, and that does kind of strike me as rather odd. Like many others, the curiousity about Hawkins is the only thing that has me interested in this show. Everything else that these writers are churning out is already starting to feel old and busted. We really don't need any more scenes of people sitting in the bar or at the grocery store.

[tgr131]

Greetings--

When Jake exited the shower he was wearing a dog tag. Some anecdotal evidence that perhaps he was in the military during his 5 year abscence.

I would have thought that a generator big enough to power a clinic would have been a diesel. Of course, that would have eliminated the whole "spark" drama, and the siphoning issue.

David

[DLiquid]

It seems like the writers are having some real trouble coming up with interesting story ideas. The show is just kind of dull, and not at all believable.

As far as we see, no one is even planning long term. I think that a lot of people would go into a long-term disaster mode if this kind of thing happened. Would you be in a bar drinking the last of the town's alcohol, or would you be trying to find a way to feed and provide water for your family for the next several weeks?

It hasn't come to the point where I'm deleting the SP, but it's getting closer.

[DevdogAZ]

I would have thought that a generator big enough to power a clinic would have been a diesel. Of course, that would have eliminated the whole "spark" drama, and the siphoning issue.

David
Not to mention the fact that several hundred gallons probably wouldn't last long running a whole hospital with all those monitors and machines.

It seems like the writers are having some real trouble coming up with interesting story ideas. The show is just kind of dull, and not at all believable.
I think the problem is that they have an overall storyarc, which will now last the entire season, but they have to stretch it out (like LOST) and have no other intermediate ideas to fill the space. The Hawkins/Bomb storylines have obviously been planned out, but the seeming apathy on the part of most of the townspeople regarding their situation is just odd. I mean, it took the gas station guy four days to realize that his district manager probably wouldn't be coming by again?

[Cue-Ball]

Last week I mentioned that the show had a great premise but was starting to get on my nerves with all of the liberties it's taking with reality. This week just cemented my feelings. As many other people have mentioned, I was bothered by the gasoline generators, the kid hauling hundreds of pounds of food for 5 miles alone, the reluctance of the local government to lock down the town and the food, water, and fuel sources, the bar burning all it's lights and TVs 24/7, etc. This show is the most unrealistic depiction of a town in crisis that I've ever seen. The only thing that makes me want to see next week's show is Hawkins. And even then, unless things change dramatically I think I've only got about another two episodes left in me before I give up on this show.

[joeinma]

Wait, so the main character's name is Jake? I though it was Jack Bauer! ;)

[vikingguy]

It seems like the writers are having some real trouble coming up with interesting story ideas. The show is just kind of dull, and not at all believable.

As far as we see, no one is even planning long term. I think that a lot of people would go into a long-term disaster mode if this kind of thing happened. Would you be in a bar drinking the last of the town's alcohol, or would you be trying to find a way to feed and provide water for your family for the next several weeks?

It hasn't come to the point where I'm deleting the SP, but it's getting closer.

Ya because drinking is not a major part of BSG. I can understand the drinking hell I would booze it up to if I thought it was the end of the world.

[masdoggydogg]

I loved that Jake's brother went around asking people one-by-one to donate gas...good plan!

[DLiquid]

I can understand the drinking hell I would booze it up to if I thought it was the end of the world.They don't seem to think it's the end of the world, and from what we've seen, it isn't the end of the world. But anyway, yes different people would react differently. I'm sure there would be some people sitting in a bar drinking.

My point was that people don't seem to be thinking long term. The wife says she doesn't need the 80 or whatever gallons of gas because she already has it covered? Well, didn't they only get enough gas for a few days? They seem to think that's some sort of victory. In the big picture a few days of power is negligible. I'd just expect to see the majority of people planning for the long term. We're really not seeing that.

Where are they all getting water, anyway?

[Barmat]

This show is getting on my nerves but I'll give it a few more shows.

If you ever get the chance try and watch this old BBC show Survivors. It deals with an apocalyptic event much more realistically.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivors

[stewartformula]

Did anyone see the legalese on the computer screen at the end? There was a mention of the software by Mackay. Mackay is a city in Queensland, Australia near the coast. If you do a search, you'll see that Jericho is a city in the Outback not that far from Mackay. Is there a clue here?


mackaycomm

provider of Sat com networking and phones. I am pretty sure this is what they meant with the disclaimer software. it is the disclaimer software for using their application.

[PJO1966]

Where is DirecTV? Big city that may have been destroyed too?

IIRC they also broadcast from just outside of Denver.

[dswallow]

IIRC they also broadcast from just outside of Denver.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=39.277481,-104.805863&spn=0.003526,0.005761&t=h&om=1

They do have at least 6 uplink centers.

[PJO1966]

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=39.277481,-104.805863&spn=0.003526,0.005761&t=h&om=1

They do have at least 6 uplink centers.


I remember that little road well. I visited that uplink center about 7 years ago.

[newsposter]

Wait, so the main character's name is Jake? I though it was Jack Bauer! ;)

u must be mixing up the show with The Nine ;)

[Cue-Ball]

I just wanted to say thanks to the people in past Jericho threads who recommended or mentioned The Day After. I rented and watched it this weekend and it was great! Unfortunately, after watching it I'm not sure if I'll be able to stand watching Jericho any longer. :)

[desulliv]

Wait, so the main character's name is Jake? I though it was Jack Bauer! ;)
No, this is the world after Jack Bauer fails his mission.

[newsposter]

Try On the Beach (newer one)

[jschuur]

I'm not convinced that the events of what happened in the show are sufficient to plunge the US into Dark Ages again. It wasn't a huge attack with hundreds of missles raining down like we saw in The Day After e.g..

Based on what we saw, 'only' a dozen or so cities were hit and we don't know for sure yet if there's any actual invasion taking place. From previous threads, it sounds like the cities chosen were big transportation hubs, so there's got to be some problems with food and comfort items on the horizon, but this doesn't seem like the kind of event that could revert society like we saw in Showtime's Jeremiah. There are hundreds of medium and large size cities in the US, all of them survived. I don't think the people of Jericho should plan on seeing that next big budget summer action movie or picking up the latest iPod at the nearby mall any time soon, but the 'beauty' of the limited attack scenario in Jericho is that we're seing what happens after a limited attack in a semi-post apocalyptic world, with a more subtle outcome than scraggling survivors scavaging radioactive wastelands for food while fighting mutated zombies.

We also don't know definitively if LA, NY or DC were hit, only Chicago.

[scottykempf]

I'd say that 12-14 major US cities getting nuked back to the stone age would make people a little nervous. Think how that would affect our fragile economy if a city like Seattle was nuked and Microsoft HQ was wiped off the face of the Earth. (Hey, some people would love for that to happen) or if New York was wiped out and Wall Street was toast. Just look what happens when there are RUMORS of terrorist events supposed to happen. I think that this would affect the average persons psyche pretty big time. Most people wold probably only go out when they had to, start hoarding at least some extra gas, food, medicine etc. They still might go about their lives, but it would be a much changed and much scarier existence. IMHO

[Eskimo Pie]

One major plot hole in my opinion is with with Mr. Hawkins and this whole other group who apparently had knowledge of the nukes before hand... If they wanted to go somewhere safe to protect your family, GET OUT OF THE USA!!!! If you knew 12+ US cities were going to be nuked, head to canada, or mexico, or fly to europe or Australia... or ANYWHERE! Why on earth would you stay in the middle of it all?

[jradford]

One major plot hole in my opinion is with with Mr. Hawkins and this whole other group who apparently had knowledge of the nukes before hand... If they wanted to go somewhere safe to protect your family, GET OUT OF THE USA!!!! If you knew 12+ US cities were going to be nuked, head to canada, or mexico, or fly to europe or Australia... or ANYWHERE! Why on earth would you stay in the middle of it all?
I don't think the bombs going off was the end of that "groups" duties. He mentioned that they're a "man down now," which hints that the group hasn't completed their objective.

[Supfreak26]

I really, really, really want to like this show. However, I think this is one of those shows that looked great as an outline but only got the B-team to flesh it out.

I agree with all the critism of Super-Jake. If I wanted to see the same guy save the day every week, I'd watch Smallville.

The mysterious Mr. Hawkins is more intriguing than any of the Others in Lost, at least for the time being.

I thought it was funny that one deputy thought that the tanks that were seen could have been manned by al-Quaeda members. Like they were somehow going to get tanks from the Middle East to Kansas in a couple of days.

I think this show is doing a disservice to teenagers. Sure, teenagers are selfish jerks sometimes but I doubt if they'd be holding raucous parties in the middle of a nuclear holocaust.

Kinda dumb that the only person smart enough to think about finding food supplies is a kid.

Is it wise to have the townspeople all liquored up in a state of emergency?

Jake's brother's affair with the bar owner is so obvious even Stevie Wonder would have mentioned it to his wife by now.

Agree 100% on all points here. And a few to add...

Why can't they get the electricity up? Don't tell me they got their power from Denver. There's gotta be a power plant closer than that. And why did that go out come to think of it. Makes no sense.

Why did SuperJake feel the need to try and save the 20 people out at the lake? They all had radiation poisoning and were destined to die anyways. What's the point?

Why were they so stressed about saving the radiation guy in the hospital. So much to the point the lady gave him mouth-to-mouth!! :eek: He was a stranger about to die. Why all the desperation to save him when they knew they couldn't.

I'm so disappointed in this show. Reminds me of Independence Day. When the previews came out for that movie, it looked like to be creepy, scary, intense, and good. Saw it on July 4th that year and couldn't believe how lame it was. That's how I feel about this show.

One more episode. That's all it gets. If next ep sucks, I'm out.

[PJO1966]

Try On the Beach (newer one)

Or try the original, or read the book. I had a problem with the remake. They couldn't get American actors to play American sailors? They were all Aussies. When one says he was born in San Francisco I laughed out loud. He sounded like Matt Frewer on Eureka when he said it.


I don't think it's that unbelievable that everybody is congregating at the bar. I wouldn't want to be stuck in my house if I had no contact with the outside world. If that's where the only TV with a signal was, that's where I'd be.

[dswallow]

One more episode. That's all it gets. If next ep sucks, I'm out.
You gotta give it two more episodes; the October 25th one is, well... just is something you should give it until. :)

[DevdogAZ]

Why were they so stressed about saving the radiation guy in the hospital. So much to the point the lady gave him mouth-to-mouth!! :eek: He was a stranger about to die. Why all the desperation to save him when they knew they couldn't.
I agree with most of your other comments, but as to this one, I think they wanted to save him because he had information about the world outside of Jericho, which they haven't been able to obtain from anywhere else. They wanted to know what he'd seen and how extensive it was. They've only managed to see a few seconds of video over the satellite, and the people they've sent out to scout the situation have disappeared. Not at all unrealistic that they'd want to do everything to save this guy.

Additionally, it shows that despite the fact that millions of people in the country have obviously died in the recent explosions, they're still placing the same value on a single human life that they would have before the event. It's showing their small-town values and possibly a little naiveté.

[Church AV Guy]

With all of the comments her about the show, many I have to admit I agree with completely, I don't recall anyone mentioning, except maybe in passing, the one thing that has me so annoyed/perplexed. Where are all the people?!? There are airliners on the highway... closest town is Jericho, but the planes are empty and no one from them came to the town? Where is the train engineer? There are no people, no bodies, nothing! Did they evaporate like the vampires in Buffy? Are they just ignored like the immortal's bodies in Highlander? There should be refugees heading for the nearest towns, Jericho being one of them, but they appear to be alone.

And does anyone else despise that IRS agent? They should have told her that since she wanted to smoke that badly, to go outside, and then tossed her out as a radiation test case. What a colossal loser she is. "You still owe the government $100k+ dollars." Wotah jerk.

What are the odds: Jake comes back for one day after being gone for four, five years, and THAT day is the day of the attack. Then he becomes the town "Jack-of-all-trades/master-of-all-trades.