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sonnik
10-10-2006, 11:55 PM
Couldn't find a thread, I'm still digging this show.

My question, was anyone able to translate the exchange in Spanish?

I could only pick up the "What's Up" and something about a girl. They started talking too fast for me to pick much else up...

zordude
10-11-2006, 12:13 AM
It's challenging for me to get through the episode.

The sister just seems too stupid to be a cop.

Z

madscientist
10-11-2006, 07:26 AM
Admittedly it's been a while since I read the book, but this one didn't ring as many bells for me as the first episode. The plot related to the ice truck killer was definitely in there (the sister finding the truck, etc.) but I don't remember the drunk driver or the undercover cop killing.

zordude; I'm not sure why you are saying the sister is stupid. She's definitely no Columbo (or even Monk), but she doesn't seem exceptionally stupid to me. What is she doing (or not doing) that makes you feel she's that stupid?

mwhip
10-11-2006, 09:12 AM
I don't think the sister cop is stupid just not a very good actress they need to tone her down.

I am not sure yet if the ice truck killer wants Dexter to come after him or just for each of them to try and one up each other.

I did like his serial killing of the week that guy was blight on society.

madscientist
10-11-2006, 11:19 AM
I don't think the sister cop is stupid just not a very good actress they need to tone her down. Actually, I think the actress is playing the character pretty faithfully to the novel, as far as I remember it. The sister wasn't a brain surgeon, and she was also a bit of a spas, but she wasn't stupid or silly or anything. Of course, the novel is written entirely from Dexter's point of view (while the show leaves him behind at times and seems a less colored by his perspective) and he sees most people that way.

I am not sure yet if the ice truck killer wants Dexter to come after him or just for each of them to try and one up each other. Unfortunately, since I read the book I know exactly what's going on :(

ClutchBrake
10-11-2006, 11:47 AM
Sweet. I had no idea the character/show was based on a book(s). Since I don't have Showtime and only saw the first two episodes because of the freeview I might just pick up the books. :)

robbhimself
10-11-2006, 12:13 PM
saw the show, then got the book, i prefer the way the sister is portrayed in the show much better.. in the book she's very aggressive when talking with dex, the personality just doesn't feel right.. plus having seen the show i think they got the perfect person to play dexter, having heard his speech pattern really helped when reading, the book just rambles and doesn't really open the imagination..

madscientist
10-11-2006, 01:55 PM
Sweet. I had no idea the character/show was based on a book(s). Since I don't have Showtime and only saw the first two episodes because of the freeview I might just pick up the books. :)FYI: Darkly Dreaming Dexter (http://www.amazon.com/Darkly-Dreaming-Dexter-Vintage-Lizard/dp/1400095913/sr=8-3/qid=1160592591/ref=pd_bbs_3/002-8659061-5206449?ie=UTF8&s=books)

I haven't read the second one (Dearly Devoted Dexter (http://www.amazon.com/Dearly-Devoted-Dexter-Vintage-Lizard/dp/1400095921/sr=8-5/qid=1160592591/ref=pd_bbs_5/002-8659061-5206449?ie=UTF8&s=books)).

zordude
10-11-2006, 04:21 PM
Maybe I chose poorly when I said "stupid".

She doesn't strike me as professional enough, or educated enough to be a cop. I just don't get the cop "vibe".

It's entirely possible that the standard I have in my mind for cops is the thing that is off here.

Z

Full Disclosure: My father is a cop.

PJO1966
10-11-2006, 04:24 PM
Maybe I chose poorly when I said "stupid".

She doesn't strike me as professional enough, or educated enough to be a cop. I just don't get the cop "vibe".

It's entirely possible that the standard I have in my mind for cops is the thing that is off here.

Z

Full Disclosure: My father is a cop.


She comes across as more stripper than cop, so she fits in well under cover as a prostitute. I can't see her as a homicide cop at all.

mwhip
10-11-2006, 04:25 PM
She comes across as more stripper than cop, so she fits in well under cover as a prostitute. I can't see her as a homicide cop at all.

Yeah vice really did see more like her character. Easy for her to dress as a hooker or white trash trying to score drugs undercover.

packerfan
10-11-2006, 07:39 PM
So does anyone else think that we've already seen the killer that is leaving clues for Dexter? It seems like he knows Dexter fairly well, so it wouldn't surprise me if it is someone he works with.

sonnik
10-12-2006, 12:14 AM
So does anyone else think that we've already seen the killer that is leaving clues for Dexter?

Yep. See my take in last week's thread. Interestingly, they made sure to include my suspect in the "Last time, on Dexter..." recap (it was otherwise a nothing part).

madscientist
10-12-2006, 07:13 AM
So does anyone else think that we've already seen the killer that is leaving clues for Dexter? It seems like he knows Dexter fairly well, so it wouldn't surprise me if it is someone he works with.Well having read the book, I can tell you definitivelyReally? You're really going to read this and have the whole show spoiled?

Are you sure?

Well, I can't be a part of that, sorry--you'll have to go get the book and read it yourself :D

gtrogue
10-12-2006, 09:27 AM
Anybody that likes this show should read the book Darkly Dreaming Dexter on which it is based. So far the show is following the book pretty closely. I think Dexter's weird sense of humor doesn't read as well on the show as it does in the book.
I recommended the book a year or so ago in a "What are you reading thread" but I don't think anybody actually took my advice and read it. The second book "Dearly Devoted Dexter" isn't as good as the first but it is still interesting.

I don't know about the rest of you but I really like the idea of adapting books into series, especially on a cable channel like Showtime or HBO. It gives the most freedom for a "film" to include more story information and character development than a feature or mini series. In the case of "Darkly Dreaming Dexter", it's actually quite a short book, around 300 pages, and could probably be adapted easily into a 2 hour feature without losing much except some character development.

I've always thought Stephen King's "The Dark Tower" series would be good material for a series on HBO or Showtime.

As for the identity of the killer: You'll have to wait and see.

mwhip
10-12-2006, 11:11 AM
I plan on reading the book but not until the end of the season.

Havana Brown
10-12-2006, 11:57 AM
I'm not clicking on the spoilers, I'm not!

I'm still liking the show. At the end of the show there was a commercial for Showtime and it said you could get episode 1, 2, and 3 on Showtime in Demand. The third episode hasn't aired yet, right?

mwhip
10-12-2006, 11:58 AM
I'm not clicking on the spoilers, I'm not!

I'm still liking the show. At the end of the show there was a commercial for Showtime and it said you could get episode 1, 2, and 3 on Showtime in Demand. The third episode hasn't aired yet, right?

A lot of the pay channels are doing that with their in demand service. HBO offers The Wire a week before it airs on the regular channel and I think they did the same thing with Deadwood.

Havana Brown
10-12-2006, 12:02 PM
So then I can start a thread on episode 3 then. ;)

mwhip
10-12-2006, 12:13 PM
So then I can start a thread on episode 3 then. ;)

Sure go ahead...but I ain't reading it. ;)

Rob Helmerichs
10-12-2006, 12:13 PM
I'm not clicking on the spoilers, I'm not!
Oh, go ahead!

sonnik
10-12-2006, 04:29 PM
Is anyone able to translate, or capture captioning from this show (as mentioned in my OP)?

mwhip
10-12-2006, 04:36 PM
Is anyone able to translate, or capture captioning from this show (as mentioned in my OP)?

HB do you speak spanish?

Havana Brown
10-13-2006, 10:41 AM
I speak Spanglish, like they do, but now I don't remember what they said. :o

Fool Me Twice
10-14-2006, 10:34 PM
I think Dexter's weird sense of humor doesn't read as well on the show as it does in the book.I haven't read the books, but I think his weird sense of humor comes across brilliantly. His voice overs are hysterical.

And the entire show is infused with a dark irony. For example, all the closeups during the opening credits where his shaving looks like one of his murders, and his breakfast looks cadaverous.

I still think his father was more than a little wacky himself--teaching his son how to kill and get away with it. Makes me wonder if his sister is a little nutso too.

It's hard not to read any righteous anger into Dexter's interactions with his victims, but I guess we should take him at his word that he doesn't feel anything good or ill toward them. They're just targets that match his father's criteria.

speedcouch
10-16-2006, 09:18 AM
Haven't read the book, but might after this season of Dexter. Don't want to spoil the suspense. Great show!

I've always thought Stephen King's "The Dark Tower" series would be good material for a series on HBO or Showtime.

Me too! Just finished the final novel a while back and immediately starting thinking how the entire series would be awesome as an HBO series. I'd love to see The Dark Tower translated to a long-running series. Network TV or theatrical movies really haven't done justice to most of King's novels. I think HBO could probably do an awesome job.

Cheryl