6.3 Release Watch Thread

[rminsk]

Only post to this thread if your machine has activated 6.3 and the first 2 digits of your zipcode is not listed on the post following this one.

This thread is to track the release of 6.3 for the HR10-250. DirecTV typically rolls out software over a few week/month period. It is usually done by region of the country based on the service address of the receiver. Only post to this thread if your machine has activated 6.3 and the first 2 digits of your zipcode is not listed on the following list. Please post the day you got it and the first 2 digits of the zipcode of the service address of the receiver. I will keep the post following this one up-to-date with a list of zipcodes that have received the 6.3 update.

Just because your zipcode may be listed you still may not activate the 6.3 software right away. Each night DirecTV/TiVo randomly choose receivers by the receiver service number and zipcode. They update there database to reflect that 6.3 should be running on the randomly selected receiver. The next time the receiver completes the "TiVo" phone call the status will change to "Pending Restart". Early in the morning the receiver will restart itself and install the new software.

If you see a "Pending Restart" and want the software right away you can restart the receiver. This software install will take a longer than the usual software install because the TiVo database must be rebuilt. If you have any programs that are about to start recording and you do not want to miss them wait till after the show to restart.

DirecTV will be streaming the software images over the satellite for a few days and your machine will cache the software during the 3:00am service download. If your machine does not cache it for some reason (no satellite reception, ...) the software will be downloaded over the phone when it needs to be installed.

[rminsk]

Edit on 9-18-06:
Due to a bug in the 6.3 software with the 72.5 and 95 degree satellite the rollout of 6.3 has been put on hold. This will most likely mean a new version of the software will be distributed (maybe 6.3.1 or 6.3a) and the rollout will start again. We hope to find out more about the rollout schedule as soon as they fix the 72.5 and 95 degree satellite problem.

It seems for this release DirecTV wanted to get it out in a hurry for the fall TV season and DirecTV is NOT basing it on zipcode. With that said DirecTV only activates a certain number of machines per day. The machines are choosen randomly based on the machines service number. Once the machine has been choosen randomly the next phone call will activate the software.

I am only listing the zipcodes where the software has been activated. If you are seeing it in /SwSystem and it has not installed I am not list it.

Zipcodes with 6.3 installed:
01xxx
03xxx
06xxx
07xxx
08xxx
10xxx
11xxx
16xxx
21xxx
22xxx
24xxx
27xxx
28xxx
30xxx
32xxx
33xxx
34xxx
37xxx
38xxx
45xxx
46xxx
48xxx
54xxx
60xxx
61xxx
64xxx
70xxx
75xxx
76xxx
77xxx
78xxx
79xxx
85xxx
89xxx
90xxx
91xxx
93xxx
94xxx
95xxx
97xxx

[rminsk]

It seems for this release DirecTV wanted to get it out in a hurry for the fall TV season and DirecTV is NOT basing it on zipcode. With that said DirecTV only activates a certain number of machines per day. The machines are choosen randomly based on the machines service number. Once the machine has been choosen randomly the next phone call will activate the software.

[Fleegle]

Nobody yet, eh?

[Ein]

...and still watching. :mad:

[Terry K]

I'm in 64102 and its sitting ready to install! It just arrived, and the version number is:

IndexPath = /SwSystem/6.3-01-2-357 /Server/78227711

[WeKnSmith]

One of my two HR10s is installing the update right now. The second unit did not get the update yet.

46060

[AVPhan]

Installing screen after restart.
Zip 32312, Tallahassee, FL. A List customer.

[jnangano]

Both of mine are receiving the update.

Directory listing of /SwSystem
Name Type Id Date Time Size
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 79206 11/30/05 02:35 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 1112212 09/14/06 02:49 768
ACTIVE tyDb 79206 11/30/05 02:35 700

Directory listing of /SwSystem
Name Type Id Date Time Size
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 684938 03/17/05 04:36 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 2522307 09/14/06 02:50 768
ACTIVE tyDb 684938 03/17/05 04:36 700

[AVPhan]

Installing screen after restart.
Zip 32312, Tallahassee, FL. A List customer.

is on now.

"Preparing the service update....
This may take up to an hour. "

[AVPhan]

is on now.

"Preparing the service update....
This may take up to an hour. "

Done.

[BeachBumMike]

Updated in 90266

Directory listing of /SwSystem
Name Type Id Date Time Size
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 206180 03/25/05 10:10 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 507832 09/14/06 02:42 768
ACTIVE tyDb 206180 03/25/05 10:10 700

[AVPhan]

Done.

Folder setting is off as default.
30sec skip is not on as default, SPS30S sets it back on.
You have to re-setup your channel lists.

[demon16v]

:D :D :D Zip 08109 6.3 is installed and running!! :D :D :D

[Krokus]

34212 Brdenton FL - Both machines. I have software upgrade set to false so I have not seen it yet. It downloaded 3:00 am this morning.

Krokus

[Iwanthd]

What menu do you use to find the Directory listing of /SwSystem?

[alltimesaresoon]

48111 Belleville, MI - Near Detroit

I got Folders!

[Iwanthd]

46202


Name Type FsId Date Time Size
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 206180 03/25/05 18:10 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 1215470 09/14/06 06:41 768
ACTIVE tyDb 206180 03/25/05 18:10 700


Thanks for the response, at what screen do you enter those numbers?

Or, am I an idiot and you are just listing your zip code?

[HofstraJet]

Received it on one of my four HD TiVos. Forced a call on all four this morning and one said Pending Restart, one had the long loading data call, two had standard calls. Will try the other three again later today. Zip 33071.

[Twister18]

61920 Charleston IL.

[Gunnyman]

if your HDTivo is not hacked, you can't query MFS which is where the SwSystem info is stored.
If it is hacked you can find the info in Tivoweb under MFS

[sluciani]

Got it this AM on 1 of my 3 HR10's in the 10583 zip code. /s

[whitepelican]

Got it overnight in zip code 54302, Green Bay Wisconsin.

[HofstraJet]

Could the randomness be attributed to the unit not getting all of the slices overnight or perhaps some corruption in the data forcing it to redownload the next night?

[Tivogre]

22153

Slices are on the unit.

I am "Zippered", so I'm waiting for good instructions on how to proceed to activate.

[Karpa]

27587

Did not realize until I got to work, so I can't play with it yet :(

3.1.5e-01-2-357 tyDb 850
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 1547577
ACTIVE tyDb 850

[Big Daddy P]

It said pending restart, I restarted. It said installing new Tivo software, went thru all the setup and when pic came back on, system still says 3.1 software version!

Wha happened???

[Pab Sungenis]

Slices came down this morning. Since I'm hacked, I'm manually upgrading now.

[Capmeister]

Karl Rove's hurricane machine stole your 6.3 update. :(

[PLaPoint]

I forced a call this morning and received the "Pending Restart" notification, but after I restart my machine, it still loads the 3.1.5f version of the software and doesn't install the udpate. Is there a setting somewhere that stops the update from installing?

I looked at my SwSystem directory and I find the 6.3 subdirectory there:

Directory listing of /SwSystem
Name Type Id Date Time Size
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 206180 03/25/05 12:10 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 953206 09/14/06 02:43 768
ACTIVE tyDb 206180 03/25/05 12:10 700

Thanks,
Paul

[thepackfan]

Slices came down this morning. Since I'm hacked, I'm manually upgrading now.

.
How was your unit hacked(zippered or manually)? Are you using slicer? Please. Let us know how it turns out.

Thanks

[mattdb]

Got it here on one of my three.

27520

[sschwart]

Just checked mine!
02140

6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 427541 09/14/06 03:13 768

Woo! I'll be rebooting when I get home tonight :)

[MisterEd]

07036, got it but not installing it until the rest of you test it for me. :D

[RunnerFL]

I've got 6.3 sitting in my SwSystem folder. Just have to wait for someone to figure out the tivoapp patches so I can install it. :)


33461

[mgoddard1]

46038


bash-2.02# echo mls /SwSystem | tivosh
Directory of /SwSystem starting at ''

Name Type FsId Date Time Size
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 32966 11/28/05 03:49 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 1073019 09/14/06 06:41 768
ACTIVE tyDb 32966 11/28/05 03:49 700

[Pab Sungenis]

I forced a call this morning and received the "Pending Restart" notification, but after I restart my machine, it still loads the 3.1.5f version of the software and doesn't install the udpate. Is there a setting somewhere that stops the update from installing?

This message is showing up for a few people installing manually, which bombs out the install script:

ERROR: Didn't find any device list files in /install/platform/utils/DeviceList/
while executing
"exec tivosh /var/utils//buildskeleton /install"
("eval" body line 1)
invoked from within
"eval exec tivosh $prefix/buildskeleton $installdir"
(file "/var/utils/updateroot" line 147)
child process exited abnormally
while executing
"exec /var/utils/updateroot /dev/hda /install /var/packages >&@ stdout"
(object "::inst" method "::Installer::installSoftware" body line 46)
invoked from within
"inst installSoftware $name $Inc::TC_INSTALL_DIR "
(file "/tvbin/installSw.itcl" line 184)

So it looks like something is missing from some machines.

[vttym]

07052

I read the thread here, forced the phone call (since I have Vonage), got the Pending Restart when it was done, and now I have folders.. all is well.

One question - I read 30 sec. skip was in this release. Did I miss a memo? I can't find it as an option, and the Harmony Remote "30 sec skip" button just skips like the advance button does.

[thepackfan]

Did you actually reset the code S-P-S-3-0-S

[Pab Sungenis]

07052

I read the thread here, forced the phone call (since I have Vonage), got the Pending Restart when it was done, and now I have folders.. all is well.

One question - I read 30 sec. skip was in this release. Did I miss a memo? I can't find it as an option, and the Harmony Remote "30 sec skip" button just skips like the advance button does.

SPS30

It's still a "back door" feature.

[rrr22777]

92688

Name Type Id Date Time Size
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 206180 03/25/05 10:10 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 328403 09/14/06 06:19 768
ACTIVE tyDb 206180 03/25/05 10:10 700

[cheer]

60031
Name Type FsId Date Time Size
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 850 03/14/05 17:41 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 820043 09/14/06 07:43 768
ACTIVE tyDb 850 03/14/05 17:41 700

[FriscoJoe]

75035

6.3 up and running :D :D :D

[Freightdog]

30342

Update applied, but hanging on...
"Almost there, just a few more minutes" for the past 45 minutes... keeping my fingers crossed...

[garbec]

Where do I look for the "Pending Restart" message? Mail? System Info?

[muzzymate]

Where do I look for the "Pending Restart" message? Mail? System Info?

On the Phone menu.

[TimGoodwin]

Where do I look for the "Pending Restart" message? Mail? System Info?

settings then go to phone.

[garbec]

I forced a daily call, but no "Pending Restart".

Has anyone had any luck with repetitively forcing daily calls and getting the upgrade on a followup attempt? Is it random or is my serail number or some other personal info going to prevent it until DirecTV decides it's my time?

[Jimbo713]

78251 - up and running.

The "Channels you receive" and "favorite channels" screen is different

[nlayton]

97306 - Oregon

Name Type Id Date Time Size
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 43423 12/02/05 16:21 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 1022393 09/14/06 02:47 768
ACTIVE tyDb 43423 12/02/05 16:21 700


Of course my system is softwareupgrade=false, so I am guessing I need to somehow force it?

Anyone have the link to that someplace?

[davez]

Installing right now...956xx. Just outside of Sacramento, CA

[nlayton]

BTW, I have 2 HR10-250's one hacked and one stock, I can obviously only see the hacked one. But The stock unit is not upgraded yet and I have forced about 3 calls and still trying!!

[wasdvd]

Downloaded to hacked HR10-250, not installed yet (I hope).
ZIP 33764

[Sknzfan]

got it here in NC ...well on ONE so far....
28681

[Kamakzie]

Bah I just forced a dial and nothing.. Also people who have it are the 30 skip codes still there?

[AstroDad]

I forced a daily call, but no "Pending Restart".

Has anyone had any luck with repetitively forcing daily calls and getting the upgrade on a followup attempt? Is it random or is my serail number or some other personal info going to prevent it until DirecTV decides it's my time?


if your unit is not hacked you have to wait until DirecTV decides it is time.

[toohip]

This message is showing up for a few people installing manually, which bombs out the install script:

ERROR: Didn't find any device list files in /install/platform/utils/DeviceList/
while executing
"exec tivosh /var/utils//buildskeleton /install"
("eval" body line 1)
invoked from within
"eval exec tivosh $prefix/buildskeleton $installdir"
(file "/var/utils/updateroot" line 147)
child process exited abnormally
while executing
"exec /var/utils/updateroot /dev/hda /install /var/packages >&@ stdout"
(object "::inst" method "::Installer::installSoftware" body line 46)
invoked from within
"inst installSoftware $name $Inc::TC_INSTALL_DIR "
(file "/tvbin/installSw.itcl" line 184)

So it looks like something is missing from some machines.


Edit your installSw.itcl


exec /var/utils/updateroot /dev/hda /install /var/packages >&@ stdout


Change to this.


exec /var/utils/updateroot /dev/hda /install /var/packages $name >&@ stdout

[PJO1966]

Forced a call this morning. I now have the "Installing Update" screen. I usually receive the first wave of updates, at least I have with the R-15.

91401

[litzdog911]

Bah I just forced a dial and nothing.. Also people who have it are the 30 skip codes still there?

Yes, SPS30S still enables 30-sec skip.

[mattpol]

I'm getting excited. Anyone get this yet without a hacked unit?

[georgemoe]

I forced a daily call, but no "Pending Restart".

Has anyone had any luck with repetitively forcing daily calls and getting the upgrade on a followup attempt? Is it random or is my serail number or some other personal info going to prevent it until DirecTV decides it's my time?

I'm in the 01xxx area code and made two successfull forced calls today and restarted twice. Still at 3.1.5f. :( I guess I'll have to wait.

[FriscoJoe]

Anyone get this yet without a hacked unit?
Yes.

[MisterEd]

Everyone seems to have different size slices. I guess it's not coming down all at once which is why we aren't all restarting. As of 12:30EDST this is what I have:

6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 1375955 09/14/06 02:44 768

[whitepelican]

Everyone seems to have different size slices. I guess it's not coming down all at once which is why we aren't all restarting. As of 12:30EDST this is what I have:

6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 1375955 09/14/06 02:44 768

That's not the size, that's the ID (MFSID? I believe). The size is the last number and it says 768 for everybody I believe. Here's the whole enchilada, so you can see the column headers:

Directory listing of /SwSystem
Name Type Id Date Time Size
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 850 03/14/05 11:41 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 314634 09/14/06 02:55 768
ACTIVE tyDb 850 03/14/05 11:41 700

[TivoinTexas]

76248 - North of Fort Worth, Texas

[TimGoodwin]

21061- Glen Burnie, Md 1 of 2

[phox_mulder]

Any data as to how DirecTV is picking the machines to be updated?

Manufacture date?
In service date?
Serial number?
TSN?
Account holders last name?
Totally random?

Doesn't seem to have anything to do with zip code.


phox

[JimSpence]

That's not the size, that's the ID (MFSID? I believe). The size is the last number and it says 768 for everybody I believe. Here's the whole enchilada, so you can see the column headers:

Directory listing of /SwSystem
Name Type Id Date Time Size
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 850 03/14/05 11:41 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 314634 09/14/06 02:55 768
ACTIVE tyDb 850 03/14/05 11:41 700
So, that makes 6.3 about 10% larger than 3.1.5f.

[AstroDad]

Any data as to how DirecTV is picking the machines to be updated?

Manufacture date?
In service date?
Serial number?
TSN?
Account holders last name?
Totally random?

Doesn't seem to have anything to do with zip code.


phox

Seems to be pretty random. Seems we can knock out zip code and last name because many people have multiple HR10s and have only gotten the update on one.

What I am curious about is how often they release a new batch of approved receivers. Daily? Weekly?

[acourvil]

Two HD10-250s with the update sitting in the holding pen, zip 95120 in California. I probably won't do the update until there's some word on ability to hack 6.3.

[mr.unnatural]

My guess is they're probably activating units based on the Tivo service No. or some other data tied to the unit like the RID No. Households with multiple HDTivos probably didn't get all of them from the same production run, which would account for the randomness of units being activated.

[Brillian1080p]

Please don't forget to mention whether your unit is hacked or not.

Thanks.

[Adam1115]

Anyone willing to post their image somewhere..??

[rifleman69]

I tried activating a call and promptly cut off the "Call to DirecTV" on my daily call screen. ARGH!!!

[zalusky]

Maybe their looking at the last digit of the phone number or something like that for choosing who gets it.

[Lee L]

I'm in 27560 and I got it on one of my machines and not the other one. The one that got it was scheduled for a daily call tomorrow AM (iforced a call) and is the newer of my 2. The one that did not get it is scheduled for a call on Saturday AM (it completed one overnight last night). I forced a call on that one but nothing.

[Jon J]

I forced a call today. It stayed on "downloading" for about 5 minutes but does not show "pending restart". Oh well. ;)

[Cruzan]

Maybe their looking at the last digit of the phone number or something like that for choosing who gets it.

I manage software that's deployed on several million machines, and when we do upgrades it's completely random, particularly on the first day. The goal is to test the reaction not the product, so random is good.

[Tonedeaf]

75035

6.3 up and running :D :D :D
Dangit, 75032 here and not showing in MFS yet.

[charlie_eberly]

No joy here either. I have 3 HR10-250's and not a one of them got it. I forced a couple of calls on each of them to no avail. Zip code here is 92882 (SoCal).

[Brillian1080p]

I must be missing something, it's been said many times the software is downloaded by satellite. Why are some posters expecting to have the software by forcing a call?

[Adam1115]

I must be missing something, it's been said many times the software is downloaded by satellite. Why are some posters expecting to have the software by forcing a call?

You did miss something. It's activated by a phone call.

[TonyD79]

They are assuming D* is adding authorizations to update during the day (not nec. a good assumption, they may add them once a day, once every two days, etc.).

Does anyone know how often they add to the list (or how often they have in the past). I would like to update now cause I have little scheduled for the next couple of days and would like to get it done.

[uwec86]

How can I tell if 6.3 is on my box?

[AstroDad]

How can I tell if 6.3 is on my box?

Unless your box is hacked you can't

edit: unless you mean how do I tell what version I am currently running?

That can be found under settings/phone or under system information.

[rminsk]

Any data as to how DirecTV is picking the machines to be updated?

Manufacture date?
In service date?
Serial number?
TSN?
Account holders last name?
Totally random?

Doesn't seem to have anything to do with zip code.


phox
Randomly by service number...

[Brillian1080p]

I already know it's activated by phone call. People are saying they are forcing phone calls and still don't have the software sitting on their machine.

Read the posts before mine.

[Plugplay]

Mine is not hacked and a phone call and I'm up.

16323

[rminsk]

I already know it's activated by phone call. People are saying they are forcing phone calls and still don't have the software sitting on their machine.

Read the posts before mine. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4351209&&#post4351209

[Lee L]

THe only reason I forced a call on the machine that completed one last night was just for gits and shiggles. I was pretty certain that nothing would happen when it did not say pending restart, but I had a few minutes to kill while the other machine was loading the software (which it started doing after I forced a call, teh regular call would have been overnight tonight) and figured I would try it.

[mbobak]

48111 Belleville, MI - Near Detroit

I got Folders!

Hey! That's my Zip code, and I don't have it! At least, I didn't last night. I gotta get out of here and go home and check it out!

[AstroDad]

I already know it's activated by phone call. People are saying they are forcing phone calls and still don't have the software sitting on their machine.

Read the posts before mine.

Unless your TiVo is hacked you don't know whether you have the software and DirecTV has authorized your box for it until a daily call is made. Since typically the box only calls every other day people are forcing the call in hopes thay have gotten the slices and the authorization necessary to install the upgrade.

[etsolow]

Right, these are people with unhacked units. They don't know whether the software has been downloaded, they only know it hasn't been installed, so they force a call!

[CessnaDriver]

76248 - North of Fort Worth, Texas

I am in Keller too, but do not know if I got the update yet

[AstroDad]

If PTVUpgrade put a 6.3 instantcake up for sale right now I wonder how many would buy it just to get 6.3 tonight knowing they would get it free eventually.

[AstroDad]

Hey! That's my Zip code, and I don't have it! At least, I didn't last night. I gotta get out of here and go home and check it out!

Don't get too excited, if it was just by zip those with more than one box would have gotten it on all of them.

[kbohip]

If PTVUpgrade put a 6.3 instantcake up for sale right now I wonder how many would buy it just to get 6.3 tonight knowing they would get it free eventually.

I'd almost be tempted into doing it, not because I can't wait an extra few days (Ih ope that's all it is!) but because I used the drive with my HR10-250 image in my other Tivo. It'd be nice to have a backup image, although I can always just cross that bridge when I come to it.

[gtnuke]

Was at home for lunch today and forced a call. Then got the pending restart message. I rebooted and now I have 6.3!

My zipcode is 245xx.

[charlie_eberly]

They are assuming D* is adding authorizations to update during the day (not nec. a good assumption, they may add them once a day, once every two days, etc.).

Does anyone know how often they add to the list (or how often they have in the past). I would like to update now cause I have little scheduled for the next couple of days and would like to get it done.

This is exactly my situation. I am sure all 3 units have the software sitting there although I cannot prove that since mine are not hacked. I am just waiting to get authorized so it will install. If I knew how often and when they were adding new authorizations I would not keep calling so much but at this point my only hope is that one of these calls will eventually succeed and the software will install.

You really have to wonder if D* knows how badly we all want this upgrade?

[Rombaldi]

79xxx - installed and folding

[no-blue-screen]

Get in my HR10-2fityyyyyyyyyyyyy :)

Nothing to report here....will check again tonight when I get home.

EDIT: forced a call when I came home at 7pm ET and just suceeded, no pending restart :(

[acomire]

08527 Checking in....

After reading this thread at work I just got home and ran downstairs to find a "Pending Restart". Just rebooted and saw that happy Tivo TV telling me he is installing new software....

WoHoo!!

[AstroDad]

Did anyone force a call this morning without getting the authorization, but come home and now have it?

I am guessing they do not release more authorizations throughout the day because most won't be forcing calls like we are, so releasing more before 95% are even installed doesn't appear to make sense. My guess would be 2 or 3 days between new authorizations.

[rminsk]

My guess would be 2 or 3 days between new authorizations.I think each night they add another block of machines.

[rufus4bz]

60014 Let there be folders!

[HofstraJet]

Maybe Earl can pontificate on when they add new receivers to the authorized list? Kind of pointless to make three calls a day if they only update the list daily or weekly!

[ebonovic]

I don't know how they are doing it with this release.

Normally it is ZipCode/AreaCode/Timezone based...

[rhyno]

First off, i want to thank everyone for their info and guidance here. this is my first post, though I've been reading this site for quite some time. I can't tell you how helpful this site has been.

speaking of helpful, I just got off the phone with the most helpful retention guy ever. while he was taking care of some other business (free hd-dvr), I was grilling him for eveyhting he knew. Here's what he had on the 6.3 release.

1st- started on sep. 12 (already knew that)

2nd. the release is time zone based. starting on the P.T., and working its way accross time zones every 4 days.

3rd. within the time zones, activation is random.

4th some random activation across U.S.

5th to be completed by october 4th

Thats what he had.. also told me a little about A list. lets just say they ARE tracking all those times you call up to ask for free programming...

Anyways, i hope this is helpful. I know some of the hacked units have been able install already, bt at least this sheds a little light on the randomness..

[rminsk]

2nd. the release is time zone based. starting on the P.T., and working its way accross time zones every 4 days. Not for this release. Every timezone has reported activations on the first day of the rollout. It seems DirecTV wanted to rush this one of for the fall TV season. Past rollouts have started in Los Angeles and then expanded by timezone. It is still random based on the service number.

[drew2k]

...

2nd. the release is time zone based. starting on the P.T., and working its way accross time zones every 4 days.

...
:eek: Well, that just sucks for me, waiting impatiently on the East coast for my upgrade! :mad:

Here's hoping I'll be one of the random activations across the US ... but I wont't hold my breath. :(

[drew2k]

Not for this release. Every timezone has reported activations on the first day of the rollout. It seems DirecTV wanted to rush this one of for the fall TV season. Past rollouts have started in Los Angeles and then expanded by timezone. It is still random based on the service number.:) I like your answer better. Please ... keep posting such encouragments! :) :)

[vtfan99]

2nd. the release is time zone based. starting on the P.T., and working its way accross time zones every 4 days.


I don't think he is right on this point. We have reports from folks in Florida for sure and other places very far from P.S.T. It doesn't even appear to be related to time zones at all as most reports are scattered throughout all time zones. Who knows for sure though :confused:

[davsherm]

Got the 6.3 update on my unhacked units at zip 01516. Great to have folders in time for the kick off of the fall tv season! :cool:

[Todd]

I sent an e-mail last weekend to them complaining about the shutoff of TNTHD for the next 2 NASCAR races and I also mentioned the 6.3 rollout. In their response today, they did say this:

Also, let me assure you that while DIRECTV has introduced a new DVRs, we will continue to support the DIRECTV DVR with TiVo and standalone TiVo service. By the way, the software download Version 6.3 for your HD DVR is already scheduled to occur approximately 2 AM local time (after the TiVo daily call). Some receivers get it Sep 12, 2006 and most get it by Oct 4, 2006. To get the upgrade, please keep your receiver plugged in, though it does not need to be turned on. Keep phone line connected. After the TiVo daily call, the upgrade automatically occurs within 24 hours.

I'm on the east coast and haven't gotten it yet.

[hiker]

... It is still random based on the service number.
I wonder if D* has to have the TiVo service number recorded correctly in their database? Or it it just something like a match on a digit or two in some position in the service number?

[rminsk]

I wonder if D* has to have the TiVo service number recorded correctly in their database? Or it it just something like a match on a digit or two in some position in the service number?It is based on the whole service number and it is correct in there database. If it was not correct in the database the TiVo portion of the DVR would not work (activation phone call)

[hiker]

It is based on the whole service number and it is correct in there database. If it was not correct in the database the TiVo portion of the DVR would not work.
D*'s database has serial numbers instead of service number for some of my HR10s. Maybe that's why none of mine have updated. All TiVo functions work, however.

[rhyno]

Not for this release. Every timezone has reported activations on the first day of the rollout. It seems DirecTV wanted to rush this one of for the fall TV season. Past rollouts have started in Los Angeles and then expanded by timezone. It is still random based on the service number.


He said that there were initial random releases across U.S., which explains why there are actications pooping up everywhere. I'm not saying the info they gave him is completely right, but that is 1 explanation.

[UGARx]

Got mine this morning.

30360 (Atlanta)

Works as advertised. Feels like a new machine....fast!

Thanks Earl....

[ebonovic]

Got mine this morning.

30360 (Atlanta)

Works as advertised. Feels like a new machine....fast!

Thanks Earl....


Don't thank me.... I didn't write it..


But just seeing all your smiling faces, and donations to my paypal account is thanks enough....

[rminsk]

D*'s database has serial numbers instead of service number for some of my HR10s. Maybe that's why none of mine have updated. All TiVo functions work, however.It is still random by service number. You will not get the update activated until you service number is choosen randomly. After choosen randomly it will activate on the next phone call. By mid October they will stop the random selection and switch all the remaining machines to 6.3.

[Iceblade]

GOT IT! Did the daily call manually. Took about 30 minutes total before it was all set. Of note, other than the channels all being added back, none of the other things they said would be changed/turned off were. Go figure.

Zip 77459

Thanks again for all the insider updates and putting up with the wailing and gnashing of teeth we engaged in, Earl!

Regs,
Jeff

[nc88keyz]

in regards to the slices. are they transferable via ftp from one machine to another. a simple yes, no, or the "other forum" will do in this case to keep within scope of this forum.

thank you.

I still dont have the slices on both machines. Of course this was take down day for the tivo wall as i call it.

I successfully installed a multiswitch that is cascading from the 5x8 outdoors. I diplexed it before it went ot he 4x8, and everything appears to be working just fine. Makes for a lot of cables. but now i have 8 lines in the living room, and room for one more tivo for a total of four in one room :)

I still have outlets for 2 other boxes off the 5x8 in other areas of the house. That project is for another day though.

[threeonparfive]

6.3 installed today ZIP 37xxx

I forced a call this evening @ 8pm eastern time. One reboot later and I'm 6.3....WOOHOO!

[TivoinTexas]

76248 - North of Fort Worth, Texas

I should update. I got it on my older HR10, but the one I installed about a week and a half ago hasn't received it yet. I just forced a call and still don't have it.

I don't think their loading by service phone number, maybe serial?

[vtfan99]

Did anyone force a call this morning without getting the authorization, but come home and now have it?

Still curious if anyone fits the above situation. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

[rminsk]

I should update. I got it on my older HR10, but the one I installed about a week and a half ago hasn't received it yet. I just forced a call and still don't have it.

I don't think their loading by service phone number, maybe serial?The service number is your serial number...

[A.C.]

6.3 is setting on my box. My box is pending restart, but I've got upgrades=false in my bootpage. I'm not sure I want to upgrade just yet.

[BrettStah]

So, I forced a manual daily call over an hour ago, and it's downloading, and downloading, and downloading... does that mean I'm getting the update? (This Tivo hasn't dialed in successfully - not hooked up to a phone line - for over 500 days before today, if that makes a difference...)

[no-blue-screen]

So can anyone say for sure how often they are updating the list? Is it daily, every 12 hours, every two days, etc.? I just forced a call again moments ago and nothing...just the normal suceeded message. I emailed them a couple of days ago and got the same canned response as another poster here about them starting on 9/12 and then finishing by 10/4.

[vtfan99]

So, I forced a manual daily call over an hour ago, and it's downloading, and downloading, and downloading... does that mean I'm getting the update? (This Tivo hasn't dialed in successfully - not hooked up to a phone line - for over 500 days before today, if that makes a difference...)

Pretty sure that doesn't mean anything. I've noticed mine saying all sorts of different things throughout forced calls. It seems that the longer its gone without calling, the longer the call takes (downloading, negotiating, etc.). Could be a total coincidence thought.

I've forced about 4 calls today, each one said downloading....one even took a minute or two....still nothing. I've given up for today. Hopefully some magic will happen overnight. :D

[rminsk]

So, I forced a manual daily call over an hour ago, and it's downloading, and downloading, and downloading... does that mean I'm getting the update? (This Tivo hasn't dialed in successfully - not hooked up to a phone line - for over 500 days before today, if that makes a difference...)It could be... if it is not cached on the drive then it will download it over the phone. Do you have 3.1.5f? If not it could be downloading 3.1.5f. It can go striaght from any version to 6.3 but if you are not on the 6.3 list then it may be 3.1.5f. A download of the software takes about an hour.

[no-blue-screen]

Still curious if anyone fits the above situation. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

No, forced calls three times today as follows:

4:10am, 6:49pm, 9:48pm...nothing. It looks like a lot of the boxes that were randomly chosen were hacked with the bootpage option not to upgrade...lol. My box was hacked, but I restored the original image a while back in anticipation of the upgrade.

[TheProton]

So, I forced a manual daily call over an hour ago, and it's downloading, and downloading, and downloading... does that mean I'm getting the update? (This Tivo hasn't dialed in successfully - not hooked up to a phone line - for over 500 days before today, if that makes a difference...)


Mine also took forever (1 year+ without a call), and then went to pending restart, very exciting! Then I forced the restart, and am still on 3.x. :mad:

Oh well, I'll just leave it hooked up for now and eagerly await the surprise upgrade.

[bsgoren]

Forced 4 calls this evening and still nothing. S. FL - 334.. :( 1 strange thing though is that it said the next call would be at 8:04AM Fri., 9/15???? I know it usually calls at 2 something AM; why would it call in again at 8:04AM? :confused:

[acampo]

11764 miller place long island new york
1 upgraded to 6.3 and 1 to go !!

[vtfan99]

Forced 4 calls this evening and still nothing. S. FL - 334.. :( 1 strange thing though is that it said the next call would be at 8:04AM Fri., 9/15???? I know it usually calls at 2 something AM; why would it call in again at 8:04AM? :confused:

Mine seems to choose a random time based in some manner on the time I made the previous call. I just forced a call at 10 pm EST....and the next scheduled call is Saturday 9/16 at 8:05 am EST. Tell me how that makes any sense at all :rolleyes:

[BrettStah]

OK, the dowloading finally completed - it's now in the "Loading data" stage.

[wolftim]

45 xxxx cincinnati , we are updated

[kpurcell]

It is pending restart in 28034, DAllas NC

[BrettStah]

Now it's giving me a percentage of the data loading operation... it's jumping up pretty quickly - it's at 35% right this second, was at 8% just 30 seconds ago.

EDIT - just jumped to 86%

EDIT #2 - at 99%, should be done soon, then hopefully I'll see the "pending restart"

EDIT #3 - WOO HOO! "Pending restart". Too bad I'm recording stuff right now. :(

[toddpayne@sbcglo]

Dangit, 75032 here and not showing in MFS yet.


75150 here in Mesquite..no upgrade yet...

[nmarrion]

94024 Forced the daily call and got the update activation. Restarted and about 30 minutes later I have 6.3!

[BrettStah]

70xxx - upgrade received (at least, it says "pending restart", haven't done that yet).

[mtxguy74]

Got the update on one unhacked box in 45324.

Eagerly awaiting the news on what hacks will work.

[SlyDog10]

60103,

I got it today, but after the reset I didn't have any sound. I'm connected via HDMI and the menu and settings pages had audio, but not any programming.

At first I was pissed and couldn't figure it out, then I checked the audio settings and changed the Dolby settings. I'm pretty sure that got changed as part of the setup, because it worked before, and I never changed any audio settings before.

[cheer]

in regards to the slices. are they transferable via ftp from one machine to another. a simple yes, no, or the "other forum" will do in this case to keep within scope of this forum.
Not in any simple fashion. They're encrypted and they get shoved into MFS pretty quickly. They can be extracted from MFS but they're not in standard .slice format at that point and would need to be converted.

So, short answer...not by most folks.

[tgenius]

Well I have two HR10-250s and neither of them are on 6.3, I'm in 33183 (Miami,FL) so I wonder if its gotten here yet :(

[rminsk]

Well I have two HR10-250s and neither of them are on 6.3, I'm in 33183 (Miami,FL) so I wonder if its gotten here yet :(Some units have been activated in Miami. It is a random process. Please read the first post of this thread.

[codespy]

Hmmm....2 Hr10-250's, forced 2 calls on each and nothing. Sitting at 3.1.5f.

I guess that makes sense...no email, postcard or any "official" announcement from DirecTV on the 6.3 upgrade.

.....and no link from the DirecTV homepage to the 6.3 upgrade that I can find.

Why are certain subs getting this upgrade....or have you guys received the "Official" announcement?

rminsk....any help on this?

And yes, on the A-list and phone line has always been plugged in.

[generalpatton71]

What hapends if you still have the "e" version instead of "f"?

[gregftlaud]

Codespy,

Do you really expect them to be able to upgrade everyone at the same time and all at once????

Like the first post of this thread says, this is a random process. I dont have the upgrade yet and i'm not sweating, jesus, big deal we get folders. The world isn't going to end if you have to wait a few days to get the update! There are people starving in this world and people actually have the nerve to bitch because they dont have a software upgrade yet on their expensive little toys! Wow, no wonder the world hates us!

LOL

[underpaid]

Zip: 77449

6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 2737910 09/14/06 02:50 768

2737911 tyDb 2737911 09/14/06 02:50 140
2737912 tyDb 2737912 09/14/06 02:50 140
2737913 tyDb 2737913 09/14/06 02:50 152
2737914 tyDb 2737914 09/14/06 02:50 148

Haven't got pending restart yet.

[FlugPoP]

I have a friend that got his 2 days ago. Chino Ca 91710

Waiting for mine.

[Cornloaf]

I just read this thread and RAN to my TIVO. The pending restart was there and it is now rebooting. I have only had my HR10 for about 4 months on the lease program from DirecTV. My zip code is 94010.

[pdawg17]

I just read this thread and RAN to my TIVO. The pending restart was there and it is now rebooting. I have only had my HR10 for about 4 months on the lease program from DirecTV. My zip code is 94010.

Damn...I'm in San Carlos and I got nothin'...and I've had mine for over a year...it's just not fair...waaahhhhhh!!!

[dthreet]

I have it so this says, I am made about 10 daily calls via, phone line and via usb. Still not getting pending reset. I hecked and my upgrade flag is off, is there a way to load this through telnet?

bash-2.02#
bash-2.02# echo mls /SwSystem | tivosh
Directory of /SwSystem starting at ''

Name Type FsId Date Time Size
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 206180 03/25/05 18:10 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 454462 09/14/06 07:47 768
ACTIVE tyDb 206180 03/25/05 18:10 700

bash-2.02#
bash-2.02#

[rminsk]

What hapends if you still have the "e" version instead of "f"?If your machine is already on the 6.3 list then it will upgrade stright to 6.3. If it is not already on the list then it will upgrade to 3.1.5f.

[dthreet]

not sure if it is. The software is on my dvr, is there a way to loading through Telnet?

[Chuck_IV]

zip: 06776

Got it today. When I got home tonight, I saw that it has a "pending restart" in the system info. So I forced a restart and got 6.3 installed and running.

[sluciani]

So if they go by zip code, why have only one of my 3 HR10-s been updated so far? The one that was updated yesterday morning happens to be my oldest one. /s

[no-blue-screen]

So if they go by zip code, why have only one of my 3 HR10-s been updated so far? The one that was updated yesterday morning happens to be my oldest one. /s

They aren't going by zip they are doing it randomly based on the service/serial number of the HR10-250.

[ShiningBengal]

Codespy,

There are people starving in this world and people actually have the nerve to bitch because they dont have a software upgrade yet on their expensive little toys! Wow, no wonder the world hates us!

LOL

I think you are a little off base on this. Some people play golf, some people collect coins. These are pastimes and recreational activities--just as owning an electronic toy is. I really doubt anyone is sweating anything, do you? What have you done recently to alleviate world hunger?

Why are you haunting this forum if you don't have interest in the same thing? :rolleyes:

[HofstraJet]

Forced a call on my other three HD TiVos this morning - none have been authorized yet..... still only one out of four in Coral Springs, FL 33071

[Lee L]

If your machine is already on the 6.3 list then it will upgrade stright to 6.3. If it is not already on the list then it will upgrade to 3.1.5f.


I wonder if they took 3.1.5f out of the sytem since they have newer software up. In that case, it might jsut skip 3.1.5f no matter what.


I forced a call on my second other, older machine this morning and no joy. The next scheduled call is tomorrow AM so we will see. Of course, if they put it back on hold due to the 72.5 thing we might be waiting for a while.

[Kevin L]

11704 - One of three HR10s updated last night.

Interesting thing was there wasn't any message that an update's been done and there's no message in Messages talking about the upgrade and its features.

[philster20032003]

77379 - Houston TX

Update completed overnight

[tgenius]

I checked both my units this morning, both still on 3.1.5f, and Forced daily calls for both of them and still the same. Zip is 331XX Miami, FL

[mwl001]

Pending restart, 85041!

If I want to force the restart, do I unplug, or just re-run guided setup?

Also, I plan on ditching the phone line PRONTO, as TiVo is the only reason I still have it. I've heard that the phone connection tells the TiVo to defrag the drive -- is that true? I'm hoping to keep the HR10 until I leave DirecTV or everything is MPEG-4, so I'm just trying to cover my bases since I believe this will be the last software upgrade for this unit.

Best of luck to those still waiting!

Mike

[btwyx]

If I want to force the restart, do I unplug, or just re-run guided setup?How about the "Restart the Recorder" option.

[mwl001]

Thanks, I was afraid it would be obvious. I had to run to work this morning, but forced the call just for kicks, and couldn't restart because the unit was recording.

[AstroDad]

So it sounds like people who forced a call yesterday with no luck are finding that they were authorized overnight and are now getting the pending restart message. So DirecTV released another batch...right?

[smimi10]

So it sounds like people who forced a call yesterday with no luck are finding that they were authorized overnight and are now getting the pending restart message. So DirecTV released another batch...right?

I wish I was. I forced a call this morning, and nothing. :(

76248 - Keller, TX

Mike

[Anubys]

nothing on 2 units, either...the third one won't even negotiate successfully now for some reason... :mad:

[no-blue-screen]

I wish I was. I forced a call this morning, and nothing. :(

76248 - Keller, TX

Mike

Same here. Yesterday, today.....nothing. Still at the crappy 3.1.5f :(

zip 207xx

[hiker]

The service number is your serial number...
On the HR10 there are separate serial numbers and TiVo service numbers.

Actually there are 4 unique numbers associated with a HR10:
Serial number is 14 alpha-numeric
TiVo service number is 15 alpha-numeric format xxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx
Receiver ID is 12 numeric
Access Card is 12 numeric
Look on the back of your HR10 or the shipping carton label to verify what I'm saying.

D* only records one "Serial Number" in their database. When you phone to activate, you can give them the Serial Number or the TiVo Service Number and they will enter that into the field they call "Serial Number" in their database. Go to tivo.com->My DirecTV->My System->Update Room Location if you want to see what D* has recorded for serial number.

My problem is that some of my HR10s don't have the TiVo serivce number recorded in D*'s database but instead the actual serial number. This was caused by the installers giving D* the serial number instead of the TiVo service number.

I don't know if this is a problem but none of my HR10s have updated to 6.3 yet and I suspect it is a problem. Which makes me believe I'll be waiting until Oct. 5 before I see 6.3. :(

[David Platt]

The world isn't going to end if you have to wait a few days to get the update! There are people starving in this world and people actually have the nerve to bitch because they dont have a software upgrade yet on their expensive little toys! Wow, no wonder the world hates us!

LOL

So how is this different from bitching about the cost of DTV programming (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4322094#post4322094)? ;)

[ECEGatorTuro]

On the D* site, my HR10 shows a 12 digit alpha-numberic number under the serial number entry. Is that correct?

On the HR10 there are separate serial numbers and TiVo service numbers.

Actually there are 4 unique numbers associated with a HR10:
Serial number is 14 alpha-numeric
TiVo service number is 15 alpha-numeric format xxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx
Receiver ID is 12 numeric
Access Card is 12 numeric
Look on the back of your HR10 or the shipping carton label to verify what I'm saying.

D* only records one "Serial Number" in their database. When you phone to activate, you can give them the Serial Number or the TiVo Service Number and they will enter that into the field they call "Serial Number" in their database. Go to tivo.com->My DirecTV->My System->Update Room Location if you want to see what D* has recorded for serial number.

My problem is that some of my HR10s don't have the TiVo serivce number recorded in D*'s database but instead the actual serial number. This was caused by the installers giving D* the serial number instead of the TiVo service number.

I don't know if this is a problem but none of my HR10s have updated to 6.3 yet and I suspect it is a problem. Which makes me believe I'll be waiting until Oct. 5 before I see 6.3. :(

[DeDondeEs]

89XXX

Got it this morning 9/15/06 from a scheduled call.

[dave7101]

Can anyone who has a hacked unit and no phone line confirm if they have received the code only at this point? (ie... its sitting in /SwSystem)

I have a 3.1.5 original unit with no phone line, and it has not yet received the s/w slices... and im wondering if a phone call is required to tell the unit it should not ignore the slices in the stream.... as each night i can see the slices in the Tclient log, but it keeps firing 'IGNORE_NOT_IN_GROUP' slice can be ignored in the log.

thanks

[dimented]

So, another batch did come out lastnight then right? I tired yesterday and didn't get it so I should try again today?

[Mrudo]

22315 Made a daily call and rebooted. All good with 6.3
Guide seems a little faster, we'll see how long it lasts.

[mib66]

60625
got it yesterday

[tfederov]

Plano, TX 1 of 3 upgraded.

[waja]

I've tried to cause the update on my 2 boxes by making them dial in. No pending restart yet. I did notice that the next call date/time has stop changing. One stopped on 9/16 11:37pm and the other on 9/17 2:36am.

Rick

[Kamakzie]

Forced another call this morning. No dice.

[phiwalker]

Allen, TX 1 of 2 updated.

[no-blue-screen]

Would be sweet if someone who has an un-hacked unit running 6.3 could create a working image and pass it around.

[yaddayaddayadda]

Forced another call this morning. No dice.

Me either :down: Well 19 days (at most) and counting. I can do this...

[tgenius]

It's funny how this has forced me to run long phone lines to my two H10s that are running around my place, lol. I hope I get the update soon!

Is 6.3 on just about everyone's units or is it only the authorized ones that download it?

[pdawg17]

On the HR10 there are separate serial numbers and TiVo service numbers.

Actually there are 4 unique numbers associated with a HR10:
Serial number is 14 alpha-numeric
TiVo service number is 15 alpha-numeric format xxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx
Receiver ID is 12 numeric
Access Card is 12 numeric
Look on the back of your HR10 or the shipping carton label to verify what I'm saying.

D* only records one "Serial Number" in their database. When you phone to activate, you can give them the Serial Number or the TiVo Service Number and they will enter that into the field they call "Serial Number" in their database. Go to tivo.com->My DirecTV->My System->Update Room Location if you want to see what D* has recorded for serial number.

My problem is that some of my HR10s don't have the TiVo serivce number recorded in D*'s database but instead the actual serial number. This was caused by the installers giving D* the serial number instead of the TiVo service number.

I don't know if this is a problem but none of my HR10s have updated to 6.3 yet and I suspect it is a problem. Which makes me believe I'll be waiting until Oct. 5 before I see 6.3. :(

If this is true then I'm waiting too :(

[willardcpa]

Zip 97455, got it on unhacked unit last night after a forced call.

[hiker]

On the D* site, my HR10 shows a 12 digit alpha-numberic number under the serial number entry. Is that correct?
Go to your HR10 System Information screen and see if it matches the Service Number:

AFAIK, all TiVo service numbers are 15 alpha-numeric characters formated like this:
xxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx

Also I think the first 3 characters designate the manufacturer or type of TiVo.

[GeorgeS069]

Does a standard R10 unit get this upgrade or are they stuck at 6.1?

[JoeSchueller]

R10 <> TiVo

[harley3k]

Nothing this morning.... still on the 3.1.5f blah blah.
No pending update / restart / yadda yadda yadda...

[bgut1]

I got it last night after forcing a call. Kinda sweet. Thanks Earl for hanging in there. I always believed you. :)

[genearch]

Came through last night...

93010

[Anubys]

I've tried to cause the update on my 2 boxes by making them dial in. No pending restart yet. I did notice that the next call date/time has stop changing. One stopped on 9/16 11:37pm and the other on 9/17 2:36am.

Rick

I wonder what this means...the time stopped changing on 2 of my 3 units as well...one of them is a weird time (today at 4:35 PM)...which is unusual because it's the middle of the day and not late at night...

[GeorgeS069]

R10 <> TiVo
umm...ok...I guess they just put the TiVo logo on it for fun LOL
and then just threw in this Season Pass and wishlist stuff cause I'm such a good customer
otherwise it's not really a tivo at all

[btwyx]

The theory is the R10 doesn't need it. 6.1 has the same features, 6.2 was for other series 2s, 6.3 is for HR10-250s.

[Robert Spalding]

I don't understand people X'ing out their zipcode? Are you that paranoid about your personal information that you think we can hack your bank account based on a number that potentially thousands of people have?

by the way, my zip is 97062!

[tomr]

Can I assume that the upgrade would only be downloaded once per day, during the wee hours, and doing a forced call once a day would suffice?

[newsposter]

I don't understand people X'ing out their zipcode? Are you that paranoid about your personal information that you think we can hack your bank account based on a number that potentially thousands of people have?

by the way, my zip is 97062!

reason #1 : post one requested only the first 2 digits so they are complying with his wishes

reason #2 : yes that paranoid :)

[no-blue-screen]

I don't understand people X'ing out their zipcode? Are you that paranoid about your personal information that you think we can hack your bank account based on a number that potentially thousands of people have?

by the way, my zip is 97062!

Currently accessing your bank account....wooo hooo .....pay day! :D

[tivoboy]

currently, no love in 940xx

[EMoMoney]

Just got mine, 21009

[no-blue-screen]

Just got mine, 21009

Did you force a call yesterday and not get it, but got it today when you forced a call? Just trying to figure out if they are updating the list daily or not.

[tazzmission]

No love in 15xxx

[dimented]

Did you force a call yesterday and not get it, but got it today when you forced a call? Just trying to figure out if they are updating the list daily or not.

Me too. But nobody seems to be answering those questions. It has been asked at least 5 times already in this thread.

[mwl001]

I tried a couple of times yesterday to force the call -- got through, but nothing.

Tried again this morning prior to leaving for work (4 AM local Phoenix time), and presto -- pending restart.

[phox_mulder]

On the HR10 there are separate serial numbers and TiVo service numbers.

Actually there are 4 unique numbers associated with a HR10:
Serial number is 14 alpha-numeric
TiVo service number is 15 alpha-numeric format xxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx
Receiver ID is 12 numeric
Access Card is 12 numeric
Look on the back of your HR10 or the shipping carton label to verify what I'm saying.

My HR10's serial number is 8 alpha-numeric, ###XX###,
and that's how DirecTV has it identified, along with the access card number.
Which I just noticed is very different from every other access card I have in the house,
they all end in 44##, the HR10 card ends in 21##

The IRD receiver id is 12 numeric xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx.

The Service Number is 15 alpha numeric ###-####-###X-X####.


phox

[EMoMoney]

Did you force a call yesterday and not get it, but got it today when you forced a call? Just trying to figure out if they are updating the list daily or not.
I only did one forced call and that was today. After the call, it said pending restart. I restarted and it installed the service upgrade.

[gordo]

OK got it:

bash-2.02# echo mls /SwSystem | tivosh
Directory of /SwSystem starting at ''

Name Type FsId Date Time Size
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
3.1.5f-01-2-3F7 tyDb 1333826 03/19/05 20:50 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 3112899 09/14/06 06:43 768
ACTIVE tyDb 1333826 03/19/05 20:50 700


Before I upgrade can someone confirm it is still OK to use the old killhdinitrd kernel

[willardcpa]

Me too. But nobody seems to be answering those questions. It has been asked at least 5 times already in this thread.
Maybe because some folks are trying to follow the directions on what should be posted in this thread enumerated in the first post. :cool:

[dimented]

I tried a couple of times yesterday to force the call -- got through, but nothing.

Tried again this morning prior to leaving for work (4 AM local Phoenix time), and presto -- pending restart.

Great thanks. That is what we wanted to know.

[dimented]

Maybe because some folks are trying to follow the directions on what should be posted in this thread enumerated in the first post. :cool:

God forbid we try top get some useful information out of a thread titled 6.3 release watch thread. I beleive it is pertinent information to this thread considering everyone is in here looking to see who has it yet.

That question is worse than all the posts stating they have not got the update yet? :rolleyes:

[toohip]

OK got it:

bash-2.02# echo mls /SwSystem | tivosh
Directory of /SwSystem starting at ''

Name Type FsId Date Time Size
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
3.1.5f-01-2-3F7 tyDb 1333826 03/19/05 20:50 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 3112899 09/14/06 06:43 768
ACTIVE tyDb 1333826 03/19/05 20:50 700


Before I upgrade can someone confirm it is still OK to use the old killhdinitrd kernel

The old Kernel will work fine except for the networking part seems to be broke. Either wait until they get it figured out or live without your hacks for a while. It is possible but not easy so far. You might want to check the other site for detailed info.

[JoeSchueller]

umm...ok...I guess they just put the TiVo logo on it for fun LOL
and then just threw in this Season Pass and wishlist stuff cause I'm such a good customer
otherwise it's not really a tivo at all

Sorry... misread. Was thinking R15. Apologies.

[boylan]

Quick question about the upgrade process. How does the D* phase-in work? I'm not talking about how they pick the order - but instead -

Does everybody get the slices at the same time and only some are authorized to call in each day, or do you get slices the day(or night) before its your turn to upgrade?

I say this because I checked my SwSystem and there is only 3.1.5 listed. I'd be upgrading manually anyway - as I want to keep my hacks. I don't need D* to tell me to phone in, I only need the slices.

[Cruzan]

Serial numbers won't matter (to us) anyway. If they are doing it randomly, they are taking a hash of one of those serial numbers to create a basically random number.

A hash is a number obtained by applying an algorithm to the number itself. A simple hash is to take one of the digits in the middle of the number and use that as indicator, so that if it's the 4th digit, those with a 1 or 2 get it the first night, those with a 3 or 4 get it second, etc. They probably using a more sophisticated hash though to get better distribution.

[jeffwg1]

got it
91709

[ssalerno]

TiVo: {/hack/tivowebplus} % echo mls /SwSystem | tivosh
Directory of /SwSystem starting at ''

Name Type FsId Date Time Size
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 191576 03/19/05 19:29 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 2019691 09/14/06 06:40 768
ACTIVE tyDb 191576 03/19/05 19:29 700

I have
TiVo: {/hack/tivowebplus} % bootpage -p /dev/hda
root=/dev/hda7 brev=0x100A dsscon=true console=2,115200 upgradesoftware=false set!

[rcavatr]

52340

Forced call yesterday and nothing then or this morning before leaving for work. :mad:

[rminsk]

I wonder if they took 3.1.5f out of the sytem since they have newer software up. In that case, it might jsut skip 3.1.5f no matter what.It does not work like that. 3.1.5f is still in there system since there are active receivers to in the database running it. If there receiver is not updated to 6.3 in the database it will download 3.1.5f.

[rminsk]

On the HR10 there are separate serial numbers and TiVo service numbers.

Actually there are 4 unique numbers associated with a HR10:
Serial number is 14 alpha-numeric
TiVo service number is 15 alpha-numeric format xxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx
Receiver ID is 12 numeric
Access Card is 12 numeric
Look on the back of your HR10 or the shipping carton label to verify what I'm saying.

D* only records one "Serial Number" in their database. When you phone to activate, you can give them the Serial Number or the TiVo Service Number and they will enter that into the field they call "Serial Number" in their database. Go to tivo.com->My DirecTV->My System->Update Room Location if you want to see what D* has recorded for serial number.Completely different database. The TiVo service number is used for the updates. In the past when we had problems with a rollout TiVo setup a list to priorities the rollout and it was by TiVo service number.

[rminsk]

GAFAIK, all TiVo service numbers are 15 alpha-numeric characters formated like this:
xxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx

Also I think the first 3 characters designate the manufacturer or type of TiVo.That is correct. The last 3 digits of the software version also match the first 3 digits of the service number.

Series 1 units
001 - DSR6000, DSR6000r, DSR600r01
011 - SAT T-60
031 - GXCEBOT, GXCEBOTD

Series 2 units
101 - DSR7000, DSR7000R
121 - DVR39
151 - HDVR2

Series 2 units with RID
301 - DSR704, DSR708
321 - DVR40, DVR80
351 - SD-DVR40, SD-DVR120
357 - HR10-250
381 - SIR-S4040R, SIR-S4120R
3F1 - ?

Series 2.5 units
521 - R10

[rminsk]

reason #1 : post one requested only the first 2 digits so they are complying with his wishesBecause if I requested the first 3 digits I would have to keep track of 1000 zip codes with two digits all I need to track is 100 zip codes. Just call me lazy... :D

[rminsk]

Quick question about the upgrade process. How does the D* phase-in work? I'm not talking about how they pick the order - but instead -

Does everybody get the slices at the same time and only some are authorized to call in each day, or do you get slices the day(or night) before its your turn to upgrade?

I say this because I checked my SwSystem and there is only 3.1.5 listed. I'd be upgrading manually anyway - as I want to keep my hacks. I don't need D* to tell me to phone in, I only need the slices.The slices are usually downloaded all over the country on the same night and the TiVo caches them. There can be reasons the slice did not appear. If you do not have the slice when you receiver is randomly choosen it will download it over the phone.

[hiker]

Completely different database. The TiVo service number is used for the updates. In the past when we had problems with a rollout TiVo setup a list to priorities the rollout and it was by TiVo service number.
So it sounds like TiVo is controlling the rollout and not D*?

[rminsk]

Serial numbers won't matter (to us) anyway. If they are doing it randomly, they are taking a hash of one of those serial numbers to create a basically random number.

A hash is a number obtained by applying an algorithm to the number itself. A simple hash is to take one of the digits in the middle of the number and use that as indicator, so that if it's the 4th digit, those with a 1 or 2 get it the first night, those with a 3 or 4 get it second, etc. They probably using a more sophisticated hash though to get better distribution.It is a random process and not a hashing process. DirecTV has a database of service numbers and what version of the software they should be running. Each night they randomly choose service numbers and update the database to reflect the receiver should have 6.3. What made you think it was a hashing algorithm?

[ebonovic]

IIRC, it is the TiVo dial in (to their servers) that the dialout goes to.
So it may be there systems, but I am sure it is DirecTV that is saying "when" to add more authorizations to the system.

[philster20032003]

I would agree Earl seeing that DTV takes 1st call for anything related to these units or DTV. A controlled release ensures their support structure is not overwhelmed and I'm sure they are working closely with TIVO support and same concerns.

[mdsteven]

It looks as though certain areas of the country are receiving the update and others are not. The rollout is from Sept. 12 to Oct 4th. Can you post dial in numbers in the areas that have received the 6.3 update.

[rminsk]

It looks as though certain areas of the country are receiving the update and others are not. The rollout is from Sept. 12 to Oct 4th. Can you post dial in numbers in the areas that have received the 6.3 update.All areas of the country are receving the update. Look at the second post on this thread. It does not matter what phone number you dial in on as you are just calling up a local ISP and then it creates an TCP/IP connection to TiVo. The update is based on your TiVo service number.

[mpar1]

I got it near Richmond, VA

[mdsteven]

All areas of the country are receving the update. Look at the second post on this thread. It does not matter what phone number you dial in on as you are just calling up a local ISP and then it creates an TCP/IP connection to TiVo. The update is based on your TiVo service number.


Not according to Directv. They are saying that is based on area of the country.

[ssalerno]

Directory of /SwSystem starting at ''

Name Type FsId Date Time Size
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 191576 03/19/05 19:29 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 2019691 09/14/06 06:40 768
ACTIVE tyDb 191576 03/19/05 19:29 700

TiVo: {/hack/tivowebplus} %
TiVo: {/hack/tivowebplus} % bootpage -p /dev/hda
root=/dev/hda7 brev=0x100A dsscon=true console=2,115200 upgradesoftware=true

and forced the phone call several time, and rebooted but, 6.3 still not running?

can anyone help?

[rminsk]

Not according to Directv. They are saying that is based on area of the country.Good for DirecTV. Again, take a look a the second post.

[slydog75]

The slices are usually downloaded all over the country on the same night and the TiVo caches them. .

This does not appear to be the case, as there are many people who have not recieved the slices yet.

[hiker]

This does not appear to be the case, as there are many people who have not recieved the slices yet.
How would they know unless the box is hacked? Are you saying that there are lots of reports where hacked boxes haven't received the slices?

[boylan]

Well, I'm one of those hacked boxes with no 6.3 slices. I was wondering if I had done something during the hacking process that would stop the slices download, or if it just hasn't been downloaded everywhere.

If everyone got the slices and is just waiting for a call, then I did make a mistake somehow.

[gregftlaud]

my tivo service number starts just with 3 digits 357-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx ...does that seem right i thought the first set would be 4 numbers too

[Marc]

Well, I'm one of those hacked boxes with no 6.3 slices. I was wondering if I had done something during the hacking process that would stop the slices download, or if it just hasn't been downloaded everywhere.
If it makes you feel any better, I have a hacked box and I got the slices last night.

I'm not going to deal with them until I get back from an upcoming trip, though. Plus, that'll give some time for the newly revised relevant tools to become more refined before I invest in them. :)

[hiker]

Well, I'm one of those hacked boxes with no 6.3 slices. I was wondering if I had done something during the hacking process that would stop the slices download, or if it just hasn't been downloaded everywhere.

If everyone got the slices and is just waiting for a call, then I did make a mistake somehow.
Take a look at the logs and see if there is some indication of doing service downloads. Maybe you are recording programs at the download time period and preempting the downloads?

BTW, I'm still not convinced that rminsk is correct about all boxes taking the download of slices on the same day, but what do I know, I don't even have a hacked HR10 at the presend time.

[rminsk]

my tivo service number starts just with 3 digits 357-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx ...does that seem right i thought the first set would be 4 numbers tooThe first three digits are the model/manufacture number. See
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4377450&&#post4377450

[JaserLet]

My unhacked unit made its regular call early thursday morning, and I just forced a daily call this (Friday) afternoon. Still no update here.

[BrettStah]

It does not work like that. 3.1.5f is still in there system since there are active receivers to in the database running it. If there receiver is not updated to 6.3 in the database it will download 3.1.5f.
That's what happened to my HR10-250 last night when I had it dial in for the first time in ~600 days.

[sluciani]

They aren't going by zip they are doing it randomly based on the service/serial number of the HR10-250.

Gotcha. That's what I thought. Guess I misunderstood the intent of this thread. Thanks.

/steve

[rminsk]

Gotcha. That's what I thought. Guess I misunderstood the intent of this thread. Thanks.

/steveI created this thread before the rollout started. Usually it is by zip/region but this time they just blasted it out everywhere.