HR10-250 6.3 Update; Confirmation and Release Notes

[Adam1115]

...and if you had the power to restore that image to your machine, you're already in position to just install from the slices.

It's extra work for no reason right now.

ETA: Hey! I'm response #500! :)

Well, not really right. First, you're assuming someone has a hacked HR10. If they don't they would first have to hack the unit, install a network card, etc.

Second, you're assuming that the slices have been downloaded to said unit...

So it's MUCH easier to just restore a 6.3 image than go through all of this. That being said, if someone wants to post the image OR the slices, I'll provide a secure private file space and allow TCF users to use it...

[tase2]

Apologies in advance.

Shame on me, I purchased my hacked unit on eBay.

I have zero concept of linux.

I do have my Tivo networked to my PC

The ONLY thing I've been able to do is load TivoWebPlus Project - v1.0.

Now my question-when everybody is mentioning checking SwSystem in the MFS files to check for the arrival of 6.3, are they talking about simply checking in TivoWebPlus?

Is there something more to it?

[cheer]

Is there something more to it?
Nope.

[videojanitor]

If you go into Settings -> Phone settings you can force your TiVo to make its daily call instead of waiting for it. The daily call is what triggers the install if your unit has downloaded (over the satellite) and if your unit's number has been authorized to get it.

I have a related question if you will indulge me for just a moment. I've read plenty of messages that say when you have the update you will see "Pending Restart" on the "Phone" settings screen. I guess that will be hard to miss, but where does that show up? Right under the current software version line?

What happens to "normal" people (unlike us!) who don't know to look for these messages? I assume the machine will restart by itself at some point?

[etsolow]

I guess that will be hard to miss, but where does that show up? Right under the current software version line?
It shows up in place of "Succeeded".

What happens to "normal" people (unlike us!) who don't know to look for these messages? I assume the machine will restart by itself at some point?Yes, at 2AM the next morning.

[videojanitor]

Thank you! I may just sit back and wait for it to happen -- I've become too obsessed in looking for it, bordering on insane. :eek:

[LlamaLarry]

LOL, yes, trying to get the update on my unhacked box has become my new obsession. I check it in the morning when I get up, before I go to bed (if before midnight) and again after midnight if I am up. I could just hack the thing to get it, but I want to make a virgin 6.3 image backup.

Must ... resist ...

[videojanitor]

HAHA! Yes at some point I finally realized that I was spending so much time forcing calls (usually taking several attempts as I would get "service not answering" or "modem handshake failed" messages) or reading this forum that my "Now Playing" list was filling up with shows I could be watching -- which is the whole point of having the machine in the first place!

Still, I know I am going to keep checking ... it's kinda fun. Kinda.

[JoeSchueller]

Dude... I'm sick like that too Janitor... I'm at about 3 calls today. I've been averaging a morning, afternoon/evening, and night call. No joy.

[mx6bfast]

OCD much?

My HDTivo is at 671 days with no phone call. I think I'll wait until Oct 5th. My HDTivo before was at ~370 before the hard drive failed.

[iwantmyhdmitv]

As some of you are aware, there is another thread entitled:

Audio dropputs afrer 6.3?

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=316857

Has anyone on 6.3 seen this issue? If it's real, it's a deal breaker for me.
I'll put up with slower response and lack of folders to retain solid DD5.1

I unplugged my phone line this AM 'till more data is available.

[kbohip]

I'll bet all the people with HR10's who don't read this forum will still have 3.1 running months from now because they never restarted the machine. The only way they'd know a new software was out would be if Directv mailed them something notifying them.

Lol, I was at a party last night and talked to my sister there. She's had a Series 2 Directivo for a full year and had absolutley no clue she had the ability to use folders on it! :eek: It's sad that there are probably a lot more people like her out there who aren't even utilizing features like folders that people like us have been dying to have on our HR10's.

[phox_mulder]

I'm not using folders on any of mine (see sig).

I just watch the oldest programs first, lest they get deleted before I watch them.


phox

[Lord Vader]

They won't get deleted if you set them to "save until I delete."

[Arcady]

I'll bet all the people with HR10's who don't read this forum will still have 3.1 running months from now because they never restarted the machine.

It will restart itself after a few days if you haven't restarted manually.

[phox_mulder]

They won't get deleted if you set them to "save until I delete."

I did that last year and it didn't record a few shows when it ran out of space.

I have the important ones so marked, but the less important ones are "until space needed"


phox

[charlestwaters]

What really sux, is that the IP address I had in my HR10-250's have been replaced with a DHCP address, however, network support doesn't seem to be functional / telnet / ftp able with the new software! :(

[kbohip]

It will restart itself after a few days if you haven't restarted manually.

Ah, I didn't know that. It makes sense though for the people like my sister who replace the Tivo before ever restarting it. ;)

[aaronwt]

I'll bet all the people with HR10's who don't read this forum will still have 3.1 running months from now because they never restarted the machine. The only way they'd know a new software was out would be if Directv mailed them something notifying them.

Lol, I was at a party last night and talked to my sister there. She's had a Series 2 Directivo for a full year and had absolutley no clue she had the ability to use folders on it! :eek: It's sad that there are probably a lot more people like her out there who aren't even utilizing features like folders that people like us have been dying to have on our HR10's.

That means she never read her messages on the TiVo or the emails from DirecTV. They definitely sent me enough crap about the update to the SD DirecTiVo.

[Pab Sungenis]

That means she never read her messages on the TiVo or the emails from DirecTV. They definitely sent me enough crap about the update to the SD DirecTiVo.

And neither TiVo nor DirecTV has sent out word one about 6.3.

[steven-h]

Could it be no code or authorizations were sent last night? No postings of new updates this morning and I sure do not have it yet!

[Kevin L]

And neither TiVo nor DirecTV has sent out word one about 6.3.And yet we know about it. :D

TiVo won't send anything about it. We're not their customers.

Thought 6.3 will be welcome by most, it's really a minor upgrade that doesn't need to be announced.

[flyerjmr33]

Could it be no code or authorizations were sent last night? No postings of new updates this morning and I sure do not have it yet!

Yesterday, I attempted to change channels and TIVO locked up. I did a re-start by unplugging the powercord, and found that after the re-start, everything operated faster--- That was at about 6PM.

This AM, I was plowing through channel changes and menus and decided that a look see at my settings was in order-- sure enough, that long awaited update was done. No notice other than the lock up yesterday.
So far, it seems to work well-- with no audio drops as a few are experiencing.

[Orient Express]

Hello everyone:

I got the 6.3-01-2-357 update Sunday morning on my HR-10, it all went fairly well, except that the "Favorites" setting in the "channels" settings menu is gone. Calls to DTV yielded everything from "your box is bad, need to send you a new one" to "reinitialize the unit". Both answers seem to really be saying "I don't have a clue".

There is a "favorites" listing in the guide, but it is only 7 channels long, and there is no program info in the grid.

Has anyone had this issue, and if so what is the fix? My workaround had been to set the "channels you receive" list to be a subset emulating my old favorites list.

Thanks in advance.

[LlamaLarry]

The Favorites feature has been combined in the Channels You Receive function. Select/Delect the channels as needed, Thumbs Up the ones you also want as Favorites.

[drew2k]

And neither TiVo nor DirecTV has sent out word one about 6.3.Yeah, there's even a thread about that (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4384656&&#post4384656)! :D

[newsposter]

The Favorites feature has been combined in the Channels You Receive function. Select/Delect the channels as needed, Thumbs Up the ones you also want as Favorites.

i've always used CYR to kill the HD/network stuff 72-80ish plus delete all the OTA I dont get in.

Wasn't favorites a way to help prevent that kind of stuff from being added back in? I hate when it says recording 86 and i dont even get 86!

If i am going to be mandated to fixing all my CYR, then i have no problem and doing a favorite list if it's TRULY gonna be a one time thing, unlike CYR was.

[cheer]

You can use Favorites however you like. I set "Received" to channels I can actually watch without paying -- so none of the sports packages, no PPV channels, no OTA stations I cannot pick up, etc. I use "Favorites" for channels that I will likely watch -- so none of the religious channels, shopping channels, etc. Where I do get OTA, I take OUT the satellite-delivered SD version. Then I set the guide to Favorites, so it's nice and short.

[Budget_HT]

You can use Favorites however you like. I set "Received" to channels I can actually watch without paying -- so none of the sports packages, no PPV channels, no OTA stations I cannot pick up, etc. I use "Favorites" for channels that I will likely watch -- so none of the religious channels, shopping channels, etc. Where I do get OTA, I take OUT the satellite-delivered SD version. Then I set the guide to Favorites, so it's nice and short.
Exactly the way I do it. You can still manually tune any non-favorite channel if listed as a channel you receive, but the guide is not cluttered.

[wmcbrine]

Thought 6.3 will be welcome by most, it's really a minor upgrade that doesn't need to be announced.I disagree. The slow performance of the HR10-250, prior to now, has been a very serious drawback. It's been much slower than SD DTivos ever were -- it's slowest when both tuners are on HD sources -- yet the SD DTivos already got an equivalent performance boost long since. Fixing that is not minor. And, AFAICT so far, it is indeed fixed. :up:

Also, the upgrade requires user interaction, in the form of resetting the channel lists. That alone is reason for notification.

[Kevin L]

I disagree. The slow performance of the HR10-250, prior to now, has been a very serious drawback. It's been much slower than SD DTivos ever were -- it's slowest when both tuners are on HD sources -- yet the SD DTivos already got an equivalent performance boost long since. Fixing that is not minor. And, AFAICT so far, it is indeed fixed. :up:

Also, the upgrade requires user interaction, in the form of resetting the channel lists. That alone is reason for notification.My one box that got the upgrade is indeed faster, and very welcome as well.

My point is the upgrade doesn't need an announcement prior to the download and install because there's nothing most need to do to prepare for it. All recordings continue as set when 6.3 installs. What DirecTV should do, though, is put a message in Messages that details the changes and how to handle them. That's how they've done it in the past.

[BrokerDon]

Apologies in advance.

Shame on me, I purchased my hacked unit on eBay.

I have zero concept of linux.

I do have my Tivo networked to my PC

The ONLY thing I've been able to do is load TivoWebPlus Project - v1.0.

Now my question-when everybody is mentioning checking SwSystem in the MFS files to check for the arrival of 6.3, are they talking about simply checking in TivoWebPlus?

Is there something more to it?

Like you, my HR10-250 Tivo was "hacked" with TivoWebPlus v1.0 by a nice guy on eBay who I can no longer find (Patrick Lynch from Texas).

How do I burn the shows on my Tivo to DVD using either my Mac Book Pro (Mac OS X 10.4.7) or Sony VAIO laptop (WinXP Pro SP2)? My Tivo is connected to my home LAN via Ethernet and I can access it via TivoWebPlus but I don't know how to find the shows and then burn them to DVD which was the MAIN reason I had my Tivo hacked (besides adding another 250GB hard drive).

I know Mac OS X and WinXP Pro pretty well but am clueless on Linux so IDIOT PROOF instructions would be GREATLY appreciated! :rolleyes:

[Lord Vader]

Well, you can "ty" one over to a forum that is a great "deal" on its huge "database" and find the "tools" you need right there. ;)

[no-blue-screen]

Like you, my HR10-250 Tivo was "hacked" with TivoWebPlus v1.0 by a nice guy on eBay who I can no longer find (Patrick Lynch from Texas).

How do I burn the shows on my Tivo to DVD using either my Mac Book Pro (Mac OS X 10.4.7) or Sony VAIO laptop (WinXP Pro SP2)? My Tivo is connected to my home LAN via Ethernet and I can access it via TivoWebPlus but I don't know how to find the shows and then burn them to DVD which was the MAIN reason I had my Tivo hacked (besides adding another 250GB hard drive).

I know Mac OS X and WinXP Pro pretty well but am clueless on Linux so IDIOT PROOF instructions would be GREATLY appreciated! :rolleyes:

Visit the underground forum, or google "ty tool" and see what you come up with. Hacking discussion isn't allowed here in this area.

[Lord Vader]

I think you mean "video extraction" isn't discussed here. Hacking is.

[BrettStah]

I think you mean "video extraction" isn't discussed here. Hacking is.
But it shouldn't be discussed in this specific forum. There's an underground forum for a reason, right?

[lwgreen]

Is the "pause" in the 6.3 update over or are they still working on it? I haven't heard that anybody received the update lately. If they haven't started updating again, it's pointless to keep forcing calls and I can rest my thumb.

[no-blue-screen]

I think you mean "video extraction" isn't discussed here. Hacking is.

Read the fine print under this forum in the Main Tivo forums index and you will find "This is the place to discuss DirecTV TiVo powered PVRs that are able to record HDTV. (Note: No hacking talk please in this area.)"

So my original statement is correct, and any hacking discussion which includes "video extraction" is supposed to be confined to the underground area.

[no-blue-screen]

Is the "pause" in the 6.3 update over or are they still working on it? I haven't heard that anybody received the update lately. If they haven't started updating again, it's pointless to keep forcing calls and I can rest my thumb.

According to the following thread, it is still halted or paused. I am assuming this is correct since we haven't had any additional reports of people getting the update since.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=317345

[Lord Vader]

Read the fine print under this forum in the Main Tivo forums index and you will find "This is the place to discuss DirecTV TiVo powered PVRs that are able to record HDTV. (Note: No hacking talk please in this area.)"

So my original statement is correct, and any hacking discussion which includes "video extraction" is supposed to be confined to the underground area.

No, your statement is incorrect.

Just what do you think everyone's doing here? We're HACKING our TIVO's. Video extraction isn't permitted here.

[drew2k]

No, your statement is incorrect.

Just what do you think everyone's doing here? We're HACKING our TIVO's. Video extraction isn't permitted here.You're admitting that hacking discussion is taking place here.

Now take another look at the description for the "DirecTV HDTV TiVo Powered PVRs" forum, as originally quoted by "no-blue-screen". Per the description, "hacking talk is not permitted here".

Hence, the request made by others to move the hacking discussion to the Underground forum, where it is permitted.

[tivoupgrade]

"Hey, are you guys playing cards?"

Anyway... I have not heard anything about the "unpausing" of the 6.3 rollout; that is probably why minds are wandering a bit...

[no-blue-screen]

No, your statement is incorrect.

Just what do you think everyone's doing here? We're HACKING our TIVO's. Video extraction isn't permitted here.

Drew, thanks for the clarification. Also, note that I did use the term "supposed to" when I made my statement. I was just pointing out that the rules state that there is no hacking discussion in this area, and the term used by the admins of this board is "hacking" and not "video extraction". I was just pointing this out so that the mods didn't move this topic due to more hacking talk, as the original topic of this thread does not deal with hacking but was supposed to be here to discuss the 6.3 software update. If people continue to increase the talk about hacking, I would be willing to bet that the mods will step in and either move this entire thread, or will delete posts that deal with hacking.

[Lord Vader]

You're admitting that hacking discussion is taking place here.

Now take another look at the description for the "DirecTV HDTV TiVo Powered PVRs" forum, as originally quoted by "no-blue-screen". Per the description, "hacking talk is not permitted here".

Hence, the request made by others to move the hacking discussion to the Underground forum, where it is permitted.

To which was what I had referred. I'm in so many sections here it is difficult to keep track. :p

[agzela]

Has anybody heard of an error #32 it started after 6.3,, I cant add a new SP and I cant play my Now Playing recordings......

[etsolow]

Ouch, sounds like halting the rollout was a good idea, eh??

[moonman]

Has anybody heard of an error #32 it started after 6.3,, I cant add a new SP and I cant play my Now Playing recordings......
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If you go to TiVo's home page...
http://www.tivo.com/0.0.asp
click on Setup & Support/Search support box/type "error code 32" (without quotes,) you will find several post's on it

[thepackfan]

I had a few error 32's because of adding things with TivowebPlus.. I did the 3rd choice in the restart list and the problem got worse(most shows not found in TODO). I was going to try C&D everything, but I find it easier to just pull the drive and reimage. Good luck if you are having the same problem.

To reiterate it looks like you can view your Tivo and make deletions thru TWP, but don't add or change priority for now.

Edit: I was able to remove a few of the #32's by deleting the season passes I added in TWP. Give it a shot If you haven't done too much this may work. If you have recordings you need to view, I saw it noted that using play(instead of select) brought up the video.

[Adam1115]

Just updated to 6.3, wow what a difference! Guide is blazing fast, folders are awesome.. bravo!!!

[xsirenonthe101x]

Just updated to 6.3, wow what a difference! Guide is blazing fast, folders are awesome.. bravo!!!

Did your box upgrade after a call home? or did you manually install 6.3 via the slices?

[Adam1115]

Did your box upgrade after a call home? or did you manually install 6.3 via the slices?

Slices, was a piece of cake. Just the beginning part of the zipper to enable networking and kicked off the upgrade.

[Anubys]

Slices, was a piece of cake. Just the beginning part of the zipper to enable networking and kicked off the upgrade.

argh...you got my hopes up that they are re-starting the rollout!

[Lee L]

SO, was your box unhacked before? I am assuing that you just hacked it, found hte slices on teh drive and then upgraded the SW?

I am thinking about doing this myself so both my boxes can be on the new SW since only one is. I also eventually wanted to hack them anyway.

How long did it all take?

[Adam1115]

SO, was your box unhacked before? I am assuing that you just hacked it, found hte slices on teh drive and then upgraded the SW?

I am thinking about doing this myself so both my boxes can be on the new SW since only one is. I also eventually wanted to hack them anyway.

How long did it all take?

If you want to go the path of least resistance, go here http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=265929 and follow the instructions to zipper your TiVo. You don't even need to install the hacks, just far enough to be able to telnet in. Then go here http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=317471 and follow cheers instructions.

You will need a supported network adapter.

[no-blue-screen]

Is there any way to accomplish this with the drive connected to a PC? I have all the tools from PTVupgrade (PTVnetHD, 3.1.5f SE IC, and slicer). I don't care about the hacks at the moment, I just want to "flag" the drive to install the 6.3 software that it sitting on it. The network adapter I have is fried, so network access is a no go until I can purchase another adapter.

[Beantownbeanie]

ARGGH!!

Well I bought the slicer. IT was FLAWLESS except I lost my networking. I have no idea why. I just put in a new drive when the other died using IC and PTVnet. It was easy and fast! I then waited for the slices and bought the 1.3 slicer this AM with hopes it would go just as well. I will wait for the upgrade and pull the drive and while I'm at it I probably will add a second. As far as the upgrade all I had to do was redo my channels. My DD was not touched and works great. My old recordings are there. I just had to turn on groups to get the folders. My DTV box is just 50 feet from the computer so serial bashing...if I even knew how to do it is just not an options. Overall still ok with spending the 20 bucks to get 6.3 now. The difference there was worth the money to me.

I have the FA120 Adpter & USB Connection Cable connected. DO I have to buy something else if I don't want to wait?

[tivoupgrade]

ARGGH!!

Well I bought the slicer. IT was FLAWLESS except I lost my networking. I have no idea why. I just put in a new drive when the other died using IC and PTVnet. It was easy and fast! I then waited for the slices and bought the 1.3 slicer this AM with hopes it would go just as well. I will wait for the upgrade and pull the drive and while I'm at it I probably will add a second. As far as the upgrade all I had to do was redo my channels. My DD was not touched and works great. My old recordings are there. I just had to turn on groups to get the folders. My DTV box is just 50 feet from the computer so serial bashing...if I even knew how to do it is just not an options. Overall still ok with spending the 20 bucks to get 6.3 now. The difference there was worth the money to me.

I have the FA120 Adpter & USB Connection Cable connected. DO I have to buy something else if I don't want to wait?

Can you provide some details as to what did happen?

Where there any errors during the running of The Slicer? Did you have an opportunity to enter a static ip address when the script completed? Its not clear whether you have a serial cable connected, do you?

I'm trying to understand what your starting point was here -- a drive created with PTVnet and InstantCake running 3.1.5f with the slices loaded? And a Netgear FA120? And you used version 1.3 of the slicer? I've personally tested that configuration, so if you can please provide as much detail as possible, that would be useful.

Thx

[LlamaLarry]

My DTV box is just 50 feet from the computer so serial bashing...if I even knew how to do it is just not an options. Overall still ok with spending the 20 bucks to get 6.3 now.No one has a laptop you can borrow? Making your own serial cable takes 5 mins, costs ~$10 max and will save you a lot of stress and likely allow you to get back on the air today.

[Beantownbeanie]

Can you provide some details as to what did happen?

Where there any errors during the running of The Slicer? Did you have an opportunity to enter a static ip address when the script completed? Its not clear whether you have a serial cable connected, do you?

I'm trying to understand what your starting point was here -- a drive created with PTVnet and InstantCake running 3.1.5f with the slices loaded? And a Netgear FA120? And you used version 1.3 of the slicer? I've personally tested that configuration, so if you can please provide as much detail as possible, that would be useful.

Thx
Hi,
Sorry that I was vague. Im happy. My starting point was a drive created with PTVnet and InstantCake running 3.1.5f with the slices loaded. And the netgear fa120. Yes I used 1.3. What was odd is that I FTP the slicer to var/tmp. Then went to hackman and telnet the slicer command. It ran beautifully but nothing came up in the web screen. Nothing. No errors no asking for IP nothing. The Directv came up and it works awesome with the 6.3. Super. Just no networking. I did not connect with a serial cable because that is beyond my ability and I was willing to take the chance. The post was not meant to be a dig or complaint. I just wanted to share my experience which overall is happy. It is nice that you want more information. I hope this helped.

[Howie]

Can you provide some details as to what did happen?

Where there any errors during the running of The Slicer? Did you have an opportunity to enter a static ip address when the script completed? Its not clear whether you have a serial cable connected, do you?

I'm trying to understand what your starting point was here -- a drive created with PTVnet and InstantCake running 3.1.5f with the slices loaded? And a Netgear FA120? And you used version 1.3 of the slicer? I've personally tested that configuration, so if you can please provide as much detail as possible, that would be useful.

Thx

I have an already hacked drive that I bought from you guys. It is running 3.1.5f with the slices loaded and I assume it was created with PTVnet and InstantCake. I have the Netgear FA120. Do you think that slicer v. 1.3 would work for me and allow me to keep the hacks/networking?

[Beantownbeanie]

No one has a laptop you can borrow? Making your own serial cable takes 5 mins, costs ~$10 max and will save you a lot of stress and likely allow you to get back on the air today.

I do have an old laptop. If its that easy I will go search the threads and give it a try.

[tivoupgrade]

Hi,
Sorry that I was vague. Im happy. My starting point was a drive created with PTVnet and InstantCake running 3.1.5f with the slices loaded. And the netgear fa120. Yes I used 1.3. What was odd is that I FTP the slicer to var/tmp. Then went to hackman and telnet the slicer command. It ran beautifully but nothing came up in the web screen. Nothing. No errors no asking for IP nothing. The Directv came up and it works awesome with the 6.3. Super. Just no networking. I did not connect with a serial cable because that is beyond my ability and I was willing to take the chance. The post was not meant to be a dig or complaint. I just wanted to share my experience which overall is happy. It is nice that you want more information. I hope this helped.

The script is interactive and will give you information as well as ask you for a static ip address and gateway before it completes. You should use telnet to access your unit and run the script.

I'd recommend you restore your old configuration - and try it again once you've got the slices.

[tivoupgrade]

I have an already hacked drive that I bought from you guys. It is running 3.1.5f with the slices loaded and I assume it was created with PTVnet and InstantCake. I have the Netgear FA120. Do you think that slicer v. 1.3 would work for me and allow me to keep the hacks/networking?

It should... but this is not something we are directly recommending to those who have purchased preconfigured kits from us. I would recommend you review the contents of this thread and proceed at your own risk if you want to do such a thing. Please understand that not ALL of the hacks installed on our PTVnet kits will be preserved or run under 6.3. The Slicer is an 'enabling' technology - not a 'solution' so you do have to be technical, have a serial cable and be willing to completely fry your drive when stepping in and using the tool.

Scared you enough? Just make sure you have a good backup and you should be fine...

[jjn]

I upgraded both my zippered HR10's using slicer 1.3 and it was a piece of "Cake".
Tried with slicer 1.2 on my first HR10 and wound up having to re-image and wait for the slices again.

[Markman07]

Thanks ..I used Adams suggestion...6.3 is all mine!

[BigBearf]

Hi all,
I upgraded 4 of my zippered HR10's using the Slicer 1.3 and have had no problems so far. Network connectivity using FA120's and Linksys Routers hacked as bridges for G speed.

I would go to:
Upgrading Your Hacked HR10-250 to 6.3 Thread in the underground forum. There is also a script called add63.tcl that I ran by telnet to enable the zippered box to download the slices which I did on the last zippered box last night

I very well may upgrade the last 2 stock HR10s that I have with a Seagate 400, 500 or 750 GB drive and then run the add63.tcl script and upgrade these boxes. :)

Hope this helps,
BigBearf

[Lord Vader]

There is also a script called add63.tcl that I ran by telnet to enable the zippered box to download the slices which I did on the last zippered box last night

To which script are you referring? I had never heard of such a script.

[Lord Vader]

I Emailed this to my old man for his HR10-250. No matter what he did, he couldn't get it to run, especially after following the simple instructions.

[GalenMD]

So, is it true that 6.3a is now out? Other threads (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4408142&&#post4408142) are claiming slices received. If so, has this actually loaded on anybody's unit?

[Finnstang]

They just started sending out the 6.3a slices last night.

[LlamaLarry]

Yep, shows up on mine and I will give it a go today. Woo hoo!

[moonman]

Yep, shows up on mine and I will give it a go today. Woo hoo!
Is this the first 6.3 ver. you have gotten, or did you also get the bad one too??

[LlamaLarry]

No, I installed 6.3 myself last Friday. I don't have any major problems with it, but I figure what the heck. ;) Now, I would LOVE to get it on my unhacked box so I have an clean backup image - but nothing yet.

[moonman]

No, I installed 6.3 myself last Friday. I don't have any major problems with it, but I figure what the heck. ;) Now, I would LOVE to get it on my unhacked box so I have an clean backup image - but nothing yet.
Thanks for that...I was curious if D* was going to resend the authorization for
6.3a to previous owners of the 6.3 ver... :)

[Klydeman]

I had it d/l last night 9-23, it is 6.3a.


Directory listing of /SwSystem
Name Type Id Date Time Size
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 427249 03/20/05 02:35 700
6.3a-01-2-357 tyDb 2430230 09/23/06 02:45 772
ACTIVE tyDb 427249 03/20/05 02:35 700

[pdawg17]

I can't imagine they could have fixed the "other" issues (DD dropouts, etc)...I think I'll keep the phone line unplugged for awhile...

[LlamaLarry]

Well, that was painless. It did not appear to reset any of my settings, including channel, but that may really be part of the 3.x -> 6.x conversion more than software upgrade. No change so far in my DD performance (no problems with 6.3, no problems in 6.3a).

[PJO1966]

After 6.3a loaded did it take a couple hours for the guide data to fill in as with the transition from 3.x to 6.3?

[LlamaLarry]

How do I check? I don't have any messages getting into To Do List or Season Passes, was that where it was? Also System Information says that the guide is up to Oct 5.

[rvaniwaa]

I saw at the other forum that some features such as 30 second skip, encryption, and back doors can be enabled. Is anyone working on a superpatch to enable all of these?

[cheer]

After 6.3a loaded did it take a couple hours for the guide data to fill in as with the transition from 3.x to 6.3?
No -- the update from 6.3 to 6.3a doesn't touch MFS at all. If you don't go check system info, you won't even know it went through an update.

FWIW it did not fix my DD audio stuttering problem. Can't tell you whether it fixed the 72.5/95 problem as I don't use either.

[cheer]

I saw at the other forum that some features such as 30 second skip, encryption, and back doors can be enabled. Is anyone working on a superpatch to enable all of these?
Not yet, since there aren't many patches yet (just the 3 you list ) and doing them by hand is fairly simple. My guess is you won't see a superpatch update until at least HMO/HME is unlocked.

[vMAC]

So is the 6.3 rollout resuming?

[ebonovic]

So is the 6.3 rollout resuming?

I haven't gotten a confirmation, but it is the weekend so my contact isn't normally in the office.

But all the evidence is pointing that a new build 6.3a is streaming to the boxes

[drew2k]

I haven't gotten a confirmation, but it is the weekend so my contact isn't normally in the office.

But all the evidence is pointing that a new build 6.3a is streaming to the boxesHey Earl,

Can you also please follow-up with your contact about the 6.3 upgrade page and whether or not DirecTV plans on notifying their HR10-250 customers of the upgrades? It just seems like a waste for DirecTV to have posted that page if they don't ever iintend on tellig their customers officially how to get there ... either via an email or a message sent to the HR10 boxes...

Thanks!

[Twister18]

I haven't gotten a confirmation, but it is the weekend so my contact isn't normally in the office.

But all the evidence is pointing that a new build 6.3a is streaming to the boxes

I restarted my box but it is still 3.1.5. How do I force the update. It says my last service update was at 2:40 am this morning. That could be the 6.3a?

[vMAC]

So how long should I wait before I take my unit over to a friends and hook it up to the phone line?

[marky_mark]

I haven't gotten a confirmation, but it is the weekend so my contact isn't normally in the office.

But all the evidence is pointing that a new build 6.3a is streaming to the boxes

Thank you for the update. That's what I wanted to read! :)
I've had my HR10-250 for 3 weeks now, previously owned a R10. My wife does not like the lack of folders. She's been very patient since I promised her an update was coming.

Hopefully us folks in upstate New York will get this soon. After which I plan on adding another drive.

Cheers!

Mark

[BigBearf]

Lord Vader

I Emailed this to my old man for his HR10-250. No matter what he did, he couldn't get it to run, especially after following the simple instructions.


I would try yourself first the following:
1. In the Underground forum, go to the Script to get the 6.3 slices thread
2. Re-download the "add63.tcl" script.
3.Initiate a telnet session
4. Make tivo R/W with rw command at bash prompt
5. Ftp to /hacks directory
6. cd /hacks command
7. type "dir" or "ls" to make sure add63.tcl is present
8. type "add63.tcl" without quotes and it should run.

I just tried it again and it worked for me. I would make sure that it works on your machine before I sent it as an attachment to your dad. If it works locally for you and I think it should then maybe your dad can download it directly and have better success.
Let me know

[Lord Vader]

Oh, I don't doubt it works for you, bear. I've had enough with my old man. I spent 45 frickin' minutes on the phone with him last night just trying to get him to ftp it to his unit! Today, I Emailed him the zipped file to try again. He gets the file, downloads it to his desktop so he can easily find it, but when he opens FileZilla to ftp it, the file isn't there! At all. Nowhere to be found. So I told him to waste his own time trying to find it, and if he did, call me back. I then hung up on him.

[Adam1115]

Hey Earl,

Can you also please follow-up with your contact about the 6.3 upgrade page and whether or not DirecTV plans on notifying their HR10-250 customers of the upgrades? It just seems like a waste for DirecTV to have posted that page if they don't ever iintend on tellig their customers officially how to get there ... either via an email or a message sent to the HR10 boxes...

Thanks!

If you've seen the upgrade website, why do you need to be notified..? :confused:

[drew2k]

If you've seen the upgrade website, why do you need to be notified..? :confused:If you been reading this thread for any length of time you may have noticed reports that some settings are reset by the upgrade. However, if you are a DirecTV customer that never visits these forums, wouldn't you be surprised to find one day that many of your settings have changed? Wouldn't it be nice to be told by DirecTV that an upgrade is coming and what it will do? Who knows ... it may even answer questions the customer has and eliminate or reduce calls to customer service.

The bottom line of my question I asked Earl to relay to his contact is this: What is the point of creating a web page if there is no intent to tell anyone it's there?

[hiker]

I agree with drew2k, there should be a notice. There's not even a message in the HR10's menu after the upgrade.

[Anubys]

I just forced a call...after hanging up, it's at loading data

1% of loading data and it's just stuck there...anybody have this happen to them?

[Kamakzie]

I just forced a call...after hanging up, it's at loading data

1% of loading data and it's just stuck there...anybody have this happen to them?

Yup I have. Had to reboot..

[gregftlaud]

yah i had that stuck on 1percent a few nites ago...took about 20 minutes for it to get "unstuck" but it finally went to call succeeded but it wasnt the upgrade

[Anubys]

yah i had that stuck on 1percent a few nites ago...took about 20 minutes for it to get "unstuck" but it finally went to call succeeded but it wasnt the upgrade

same here...finally got unstuck...no upgrade for me still... :(

[Castaa]

I forced a phone call today. After restarting it appears my box is still using the 3.1.5f version and not the new 6.3 version.

My zip code is 94xxx which is on the list of boxes that have been activated to use 6.3. Am I missing something? Sorry if this is a noob question. :(

Edit:
I guess this answer my question. The updates are halted for now.
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=317345&page=1&pp=30

[Yog-Sothoth]

I guess this answer my question. The updates are halted for now.

DirecTV is now sending out 6.3a, but users with non-hacked units may not be able to use it until October.

[zalusky]

Maybe they are waiting for 6.3a feedback from us first :):):).

Just hacked the upgrade into one of mine today. Will probably do the other tommorrow. Once I am happy with it.

[aus]

noob here, what do you guys mean by "hacked"
I know games/movies can be hacked and copied, but how does that pertain to this update?

[etsolow]

You can hack your unit, giving telnet access to the Linux OS. Once you have that in place, you can manually initiate an upgrade that the rest of us suckers have to wait for official authorization for.

Lots of hacking info in the Underground (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=8) section of the forum.

[crwmlw]

Hello everyone, I havent been in here for a while so I wanted to stop in and fill you in on the latest news for the Chicago area. The 6.3 software for the hr10-250 will be available on October 4th and the New HR20 is a $99 upgrade from the HR10-250. Its the Mpeg 4 upgrade, customer retention said if will be a free upgrade after the first of the year, its still in the testing phase. So if anyone didnt receive the 6.3 update on September 12th it will be for sure October 4th.

[dturturro]

QUOTE:You can hack your unit, giving telnet access to the Linux OS. Once you have that in place, you can manually initiate an upgrade that the rest of us suckers have to wait for official authorization for.

Lots of hacking info in the Underground section of the forum.

Silly noob ? here: do you need to buy/install any extra hardware or is this just a programming fix? Do you need to pull the HD?

[sanderv]

Hello all as you can see from the title forced a call about a half hour ago and since then the yellow LED is on solid.Hoping this is an indication that the update is in progress to the 6.3 ,or 6.3a S/W.
When the LED goes out I will post a second message with the results.
(have my fingers crossed)

[sanderv]

Hello all as you can see from the title forced a call about a half hour ago and since then the yellow LED is on solid.Hoping this is an indication that the update is in progress to the 6.3 ,or 6.3a S/W.
When the LED goes out I will post a second message with the results.
(have my fingers crossed)

Not sure if something is wrong or if this is normal
The forced phone call was at 9:30 am and the yellow LED is still on solid

according to the users guide on the color of the LED "It turns amber
when a connection to the DVR service is in progress."

However almost 3 hours??? to upgrade???

Does anyone know if this is normal?

[hiker]

Not sure if something is wrong or if this is normal
The forced phone call was at 9:30 am and the yellow LED is still on solid

according to the users guide on the color of the LED "It turns amber
when a connection to the DVR service is in progress."

However almost 3 hours??? to upgrade???

Does anyone know if this is normal?
Sometimes it stays on, don't know why. Usually the amber light indicates phone in use. Go to Phone Settings menu and see if it indicates phone in use. If not, and the light bothers you, try rebooting.

[seanm57]

Well, I got tired of waiting. I went ahead and performed the method described previously in this thread. I used the zipper to enable networking on my Hr10-250. Then, edited the upgrade ictl file to force the upgrade. My Tivo had already downloaded the new 6.3a software just like everyone elses. After another bash prompt command to start the upgrade, it was all done in less than 1 hour. Folders are great and the speed is fantastic. No problems at all with Dolby Digital dropouts. However, I am using the optical or TOSLINK cable for my audio. As far as I know that is the only way to have true DD output anyway.

Love the update. ...now if someone will just get MRV working on this unit, I'll buy 2 more and get them on my network.

I usually just lurk on here and I think this is probably my 1st post, but I just wanted people to know that the zipper/bash force upgrade works very well. Very easy.

Sean

[Brillian1080p]

Well shootski! I'm a still a waitin on mine!

I'm in rural Arizona mountains, so who knows how long till that satellite thingy will find me?

[gregftlaud]

so i've read numerous posts from people that got upgraded that say "the guide" is much faster. is that the dtv grid guide, the tivo list guide, or both?

[dturturro]

I'm more concerned with the time it takes to set up or reprioritize the season passes. Anyone with the new update able to do this in under 5 minutes?

[tiggermanh]

Yes, the guide is much faster, both of them.

The grid style is usable now, so I switched to that.

Re-ordering SPs was much more workable than it had gotten. I think we have about 30 of them right now.

I reordered a few of them the other night and I spent less than 2 minutes total moving them around and waiting for it to complete processing.

[sluciani]

I'm more concerned with the time it takes to set up or reprioritize the season passes. Anyone with the new update able to do this in under 5 minutes?

About a minute for my 45 season's passes, once the database was fully optimized. Not sure how long optimization took because I wasn't testing it. Possibly a day, possibly more.

/steve

[jhimmel]

No problems at all with Dolby Digital dropouts. However, I am using the optical or TOSLINK cable for my audio. As far as I know that is the only way to have true DD output anyway.
Sean

I use HDMI for DD.

Jim H.

[finaldiet]

Well shootski! I'm a still a waitin on mine!

I'm in rural Arizona mountains, so who knows how long till that satellite thingy will find me?

I'm still waiting also. Shows 3.1 in my system settings as of this am. Software version same also.

[AlbertZeroK]

About a minute for my 45 season's passes, once the database was fully optimized. Not sure how long optimization took because I wasn't testing it. Possibly a day, possibly more.

/steve


Once I put 6.3a on my TIVO sunday, it was SLUGGISH big time. So I turned to my SD TIVO. But last night, the HD TIVO was working great, so I'm guessing the TIVO needs a day or so to get everything up and going from the 6.3a upgrade.

[Brillian1080p]

Is there any reason a hacked HR10-250 wouldn't receive 6.3 in MFS besides the delay for a few days.

Maybe I'm trying to rush things though. There has been a lot of mention about it going till October 4th.

[hiker]

Is there any reason a hacked HR10-250 wouldn't receive 6.3 in MFS besides the delay for a few days.

Maybe I'm trying to rush things though. There has been a lot of mention about it going till October 4th.
Do you have upgradesoftware variable set to false? See the post here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4351161&&#post4351161).

[Finnstang]

Is there any reason a hacked HR10-250 wouldn't receive 6.3 in MFS besides the delay for a few days.

Maybe I'm trying to rush things though. There has been a lot of mention about it going till October 4th.
Have you tried forcing a call?

[josejrp]

Do you have upgradesoftware variable set to false? See the post here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4351161&&#post4351161).

I had mine set to false, and I received 6.3 and 6.3a in MFS.

[rminsk]

There has been a lot of mention about it going till October 4th.That was until 6.3 had a bug. They are now installing 6.3a and they will most likely revise the schedule.

[cheer]

Do you have upgradesoftware variable set to false? See the post here (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4351161&&#post4351161).
That has nothing to do with whether you get the software in MFS.

[samberger]

is it possible that if i didn't receive the upgrade overnight that if I come home this afternoon and force a call it could update? or would the software only get to me once a day, or night, so if i don't have it in the morning i have to wait for the next day?

[rminsk]

is it possible that if i didn't receive the upgrade overnight that if I come home this afternoon and force a call it could update? or would the software only get to me once a day, or night, so if i don't have it in the morning i have to wait for the next day?Once the receiver has been changed in the DirecTV database to run a new version of the software it will activate it on the next phone call. If the software is not cached on the hard drive it will download it over the phone.

[gregftlaud]

i'm not sure why a ton of people would get the update via satellite but then it wont be activated to install for some time? why is that? if u downloaded it then why wouldnt it activate to install on the next phone call. teases lol

[rminsk]

i'm not sure why a ton of people would get the update via satellite but then it wont be activated to install for some time? why is that? if u downloaded it then why wouldnt it activate to install on the next phone call. teases lolA rollout period is needed in case the release has problems. That was just demonstrated with the 6.3 72.5 degree satellite problem. They were able to stop the update before everyone had the problem. Also, whenever there is a new software release people may call support. By slowly rolling out the release the impact on support is lower. In the DirecTiVo case a rollout also may cause failures. The TiVo has two boot partitions and the new software is installed on a inactive partition. The DirecTiVo swaps boot partitions and then reboots. If the inactive partition was bad the unit can fail requiring a replacement.

[gregftlaud]

well..crap...i bought my hr10 back in may 2004. i was probably one of the first few hundred to get it i should have gotten an update by now he he he. knowing my luck though since i was one of the first to purchase it i was probably be one of the last to get the upgrade. :(

[richard276]

B I am sorry to sound like a newbie or an idiot but I've read all these threads goiungback through the month and nowhere did it discuss what the 6.3 actually is or does. I assume it is a system software upgrade. I've seen where your box has to be "hacked" in order to get more details/info than is provided in the main tivo menu - for example all mine says is:3.1.5f01-3-257.

What exactly is the 6.3 s/w? what doe sit do/allow differently? do we have to go get it?I've forced the daily call but I'm thinking it must be more than that. I live in zip 22152

Again sorry to be suck an idiot but had to ask

Thanks

[aaronwt]

Look at the very FIRST post of this thread. It has a link to the release notes for 6.3

[spjon]

well..crap...i bought my hr10 back in may 2004. i was probably one of the first few hundred to get it i should have gotten an update by now he he he. knowing my luck though since i was one of the first to purchase it i was probably be one of the last to get the upgrade. :(

I know how you feel. I picked mine up in Aug of '04. The fist batch that they had at GoodGuys. :rolleyes:

I do have to say that buying it (even for $1000) has been worth every penny. :cool:

[tase2]

Are there still a lot of folks who have not even received 6.3 slices yet?

[rminsk]

Are there still a lot of folks who have not even received 6.3 slices yet?Most people have not actived it yet because of a bug in the software. 6.3a just started rolling out yesterday. It seems they are slowly starting the 6.3a update in case of other problems.

[charlestwaters]

Have a ? for you folks.. I have called DTV regarding upgrading to the HR20 box. They told me they don't offer any kind of an upgrade at this time, that the only place you can get it from is Best Buy or Best Buy.com. And once I activate the new box, that they will give me a $200 credit on my account.

I have heard others on here saying that they have been told it's a $99 upgrade, or they are getting it installed this week, yadda yadda... Anyone have anything different to ad!? Has anyone actually taken the upgrade route!?

I am in the Seattle area if that makes a difference!

[Lord Vader]

Are there still a lot of folks who have not even received 6.3 slices yet?

Neither I nor my father have, but I'm not concerned right now. I'm so damn busy with other things that I haven't had time to worry about it.

[Cheezmo]

Those of you that don't have 6.3/6.3a, be thankful if you watch OTA. The 10-15 second audio dropouts are pretty annoying. Here's hoping for a 6.3b.

[tase2]

Neither I nor my father have, but I'm not concerned right now. I'm so damn busy with other things that I haven't had time to worry about it.
I guess I will just wait patiently.

[rminsk]

Those of you that don't have 6.3/6.3a, be thankful if you watch OTA. The 10-15 second audio dropouts are pretty annoying. Here's hoping for a 6.3b.No problem on my machine...

[drew2k]

A rollout period is needed in case the release has problems. ... Also, whenever there is a new software release people may call support. By slowly rolling out the release the impact on support is lower. ...Unfortunately, DirecTV is not helping themselves. DirecTV is rolling out upgrades but is not telling its customers that some of their settings may be changed, so some customers may be calling support when a simple on-screen message would tell them they have an upgrade and some settings were reset.

And there's still no word from Earl/Earl's contact on why DirecTV created that 6.3 upgrade web page that they don't seem to want to steer their customers to ...

[Arcady]

When your tivo updates, it does give you a message.

[drew2k]

When your tivo updates, it does give you a message.This has been discussed for a while, and so far no one has reported getting an on-screen message or even an emailed message from DirecTV about an upgrade.

You'd be the first to post that for 6.3 and/or 6.3a there was an on-screen message telling the user their box was just upgraded...

[bigcat400]

I dont see how giving a message to the customers would help D*.

What would the message say, something like, "please wait while we screw up with your box with some more buggy software..." ?

I think they are actually helping themselves by not telling anybody about it. This way people may just think that their audio system or TV is going bad rather than blaiming D*.

It it were a tested quality upgrade, they would send letters out. At this point they are just using us to test their stuff.

Unfortunately, DirecTV is not helping themselves. DirecTV is rolling out upgrades but is not telling its customers that some of their settings may be changed, so some customers may be calling support when a simple on-screen message would tell them they have an upgrade and some settings were reset.

And there's still no word from Earl/Earl's contact on why DirecTV created that 6.3 upgrade web page that they don't seem to want to steer their customers to ...

[Brillian1080p]

Sorry guys for not answering your questions to my question sooner. Been a little busy!

My box has typically had problems completing the call. The test call will fail ten times in a row with "Couldn't connect" and the next time it will connect. I can go directly to make call and it will fail a few times also. It's very hit and miss. The phone line is fine and I've tried practically every number available.

I posted a ways back that I was still confused regarding how the software is received. Somebody responded with "Why are you confused?"

Well just look at this thread. You have the majority swearing you cannot accomplish anything by forcing a call if you don't already have the upgrade sitting in your box. Then you have a minority swearing the opposite. I am no expert, I've had mine since they came on the market and loved having HD. I'm into high quality video and audio. That's all I used it for until the middle of August when I entered the hacking world.

My instincts say it downloads by satellite. The file is somewhere around 780 mb. I don't know the exact length of time to download by telephone modem, but I'm sure it's very long.

I'm still curious though, is there any reason a hacked HR10-250 wouldn't download the upgrade? I want to make sure It's not something I should take care of here.

[Brillian1080p]

Deleted.

[Pab Sungenis]

This has been discussed for a while, and so far no one has reported getting an on-screen message or even an emailed message from DirecTV about an upgrade.

You'd be the first to post that for 6.3 and/or 6.3a there was an on-screen message telling the user their box was just upgraded...

There is a message included in the original 6.3 update package...for 7.2.

The message is then discarded since it's for a different version than your system was just updated to.

[lns4667]

Brillian, the same problem happened to a friend of mine, with the phone not connecting normally. On further inspection I found he wasn't using a filter on his reciever for the Dsl interference. Just thought I'd mention it. :)

[steven-h]

Just noticed a message on my hr10-250 which states the update will happen soon and only those that have a phone line attached will receive it.

[samberger]

Just noticed a message on my hr10-250 which states the update will happen soon and only those that have a phone line attached will receive it.

yup, just got the same message and forced a call. nothing.

[hiker]

I got the 6.3 Software Update message also.

It starts out:
ATTENTION: Upcoming HD DVR upgrade requires phone line connection!

The funny thing is to get the message you have to make a phone call. I proved this on 2 of my HR10's, soon after forcing a call, the message popped up but no 6.3 yet!

[Anubys]

got the message as well...I guess nobody can say there is no official announcement from D* anymore ;)

[drew2k]

got the message as well...I guess nobody can say there is no official announcement from D* anymore ;)And I'll just pretend that I had a small part in that, gently prodding Earl to ask his contact when or if there would be something officially announced. ;)

[tivoupgrade]

I got the 6.3 Software Update message also.

It starts out:
ATTENTION: Upcoming HD DVR upgrade requires phone line connection!

The funny thing is to get the message you have to make a phone call. I proved this on 2 of my HR10's, soon after forcing a call, the message popped up but no 6.3 yet!

Some of you probably won't believe this, but the unit I have hooked up (we only have one TV and one HR10-250) is still on its original software version -- 3.1.5; its been online for well over 2 years, has never been plugged into a phone line and has never gotten a message, update or software slice. Where's my 6.3? :-)

[marky_mark]

Those of you that don't have 6.3/6.3a, be thankful if you watch OTA. The 10-15 second audio dropouts are pretty annoying. Here's hoping for a 6.3b.

My system hasn't been upgraded yet, but I have had audio optical dropouts this week on OTA recordings.

I did get the 6.3 update message people have mentioned today after the daily call. The last time I saw a message like this was years ago with my original DirecTV Tivo Hughes model when they released an upgrade to activate dual tuners. The actual update was only a couple days after.

Mark

[mx6bfast]

Some of you probably won't believe this, but the unit I have hooked up (we only have one TV and one HR10-250) is still on its original software version -- 3.1.5; its been online for well over 2 years, has never been plugged into a phone line and has never gotten a message, update or software slice. Where's my 6.3? :-)
Before you upgrade, can you do the codes and that display the bitrate and resolution D* is sending the channels out at?

[finaldiet]

Before you upgrade, can you do the codes and that display the bitrate and resolution D* is sending the channels out at?
Mine just re-booted twice while watching the Unit. Then I noticed it wasn't recording CSI:NY. I hit record and it would just make a big BONG. Whats up!! System is still 3.1

[pdawg17]

It's not possible for OTA to be affected by the solar flare business starting up right now, could it?

[Lord Vader]

Yes it is. Solar activity can also affect satellite transmissions.

[gregftlaud]

has anyone in the past ...when the upgrade started get this on screen message saying there was soon to be an upgrade and then get the upgrade soon after. i am wondering if this on screen message is sent to receivers that have now been added to the upgrade database ...or is this message just a general message to everyone notifying them of the update.

[nc88keyz]

I received same message yesterday. Both units manually upgraded to 6.3a

FWIW

[steven-h]

I forced a call at 4:30 this morning and nothing. I just got home and at 9:15 forced a call and it is installing. Non hacked unit in 40 zip. Yea.

[rcavatr]

And neither TiVo nor DirecTV has sent out word one about 6.3.

I received a message yesterday on my HR10-250 that an upgrade was coming soon and that make sure that my phone line was plugged in.

John

[mhn2]

This morning I got the message that I would be receiving the 6.3 update and to be sure my phone line was connected. :up: :up: :up:

I checked the call history and it said I had made a successful call just 10 minutes ago. Would forcing another call start the installation? :D

[jdblack911]

Well, I've been sitting back and watching the few 6.3 threads that have developed, content to wait until 10/3 when a few of you posted about the 6.3 message you got when you called in. Out of curiosity, I hooked up the ole phone line to my vonage box to initiate a call. After a 45 second call, the message downloaded indicated 6.3 would be arriving soon, but....could it be.....yes....pending restart also appeared. I manually restarted and the "Preparing service update... This may take up to an hour" screen showed up and then restarted before I even finished this message, I have verified that 6.3a is now loaded on my box.
My zip is 600XX and I'm just outside of Chicago, but I don't really care what formula D* used to roll out this update, I don't think we'll ever really know. At least it looks like things are steadily beginning to progress again. In fact, after all the sharp tongues (or should I say fingers) with posts scolding D*, I have to say that both D* and Tivo seemed to do a good job getting this back into the pipeline, even if it did take so long to get it in the first place.
I was running 3.1.5f as of last night.

[JoeSchueller]

I forced a call at 4:30 this morning and nothing. I just got home and at 9:15 forced a call and it is installing. Non hacked unit in 40 zip. Yea.
Steven, did you have 6.3 on the box, or is it going straight from 3.5f to 6.3a?

[steven-h]

Steven, did you have 6.3 on the box, or is it going straight from 3.5f to 6.3a?


I had 3.5f and it went straight to 6.3a.

[rcavatr]

Hey Earl,

Can you also please follow-up with your contact about the 6.3 upgrade page and whether or not DirecTV plans on notifying their HR10-250 customers of the upgrades? It just seems like a waste for DirecTV to have posted that page if they don't ever iintend on tellig their customers officially how to get there ... either via an email or a message sent to the HR10 boxes...

Thanks!

I received a message on my HR10-250 box yeaterday claiming that there was an update coming and to make sure that my phone line was plugged in.

John

[String]

has anyone in the past ...when the upgrade started get this on screen message saying there was soon to be an upgrade and then get the upgrade soon after. i am wondering if this on screen message is sent to receivers that have now been added to the upgrade database ...or is this message just a general message to everyone notifying them of the update.

I got the message yesterday, I forced a call last night, and this morning, still nothing.

[gregftlaud]

same here. got the message so no update. so i'm assuming it was just a general message not to just people that will get the upgrade with 24 hr or whatever

[JLWINE]

Echo, Echo, Echo......

[primetime73]

I noticed this morning that one of my HR10's had the message. I had hooked up a phone line to it last night, it made the daily call but did not update the software. I forced a call this morning and nothing changed. The next scheduled call is for Saturday night so I assume the update will probably come then.
For what it is worth -
This DVR is still on 3.f and went in service in May 05 and is not continuously hooked to a phone line. My other HR10 is still on 3.f and has not received the message, it is continuously hooked to a phone line and went in service in Sept. 05.

[tivoupgrade]

Before you upgrade, can you do the codes and that display the bitrate and resolution D* is sending the channels out at?

The unit is hacked... just running older software. By 'upgrade' do you mean to 6.3?

Sure, what are the codes that do that?

[moonman]

The unit is hacked... just running older software. By 'upgrade' do you mean to 6.3?

Sure, what are the codes that do that?
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Press "select," "play," "select," "instant replay," "select" and then the info appears in white text at the bottom of the screen. For example it will show HBO at 1920x1088i, 16:9, 29.97fps. HD-Net(now) shows up as 1280x1088i. To get rid of the white text you enter the sequence again and then go to the DirecTV Central and back. It will even give you the resolution on the Tivo recordings. "
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If you still have this back door, don't upgrade your unit unless you want more speed & folders.... :rolleyes:

[eplus12]

Is anyone here upgrading to the HR20-700? I spoke with DTV today and they said they would be phasing out these MPEG 2 units early next year. So does that mean we only have 6 months at best to use these things? Why the excitement over 6.3?

[JoeSchueller]

You may get strung up for blasphemy for calling the HR20 an upgrade. This is a TiVo forum, so most people here are pretty religious about the TiVo software interface. The HR20 does not run TiVo software and has a D* (NDS) developed GUI. Many here despise it (personally, I'm intrigued). For more info on the HR20, check out http://www.dbstalk.com.

As far as 6.3 goes, it addresses many people's biggest complaint about the HR10: the turtle-like performance of the box. It also adds folders to the "now playing" list - a feature other devices have enjoyed for a long time.

[Tom Harms]

This morning, I was not able to receive telephone calls, but able to send. After extensive troubleshooting, the problem went away when I disconnected the line on the DVR. I got a message that it was trying to update my DVR. Now I can receive telephone calls. I may reconnect the line to the DVR when I go to bed. I spent about 3 hours running this problem down ~ maybe this will save somebody else some time. :-)

[AZJimbo]

I got the message yesterday afternoon but no update as of yet. :cool:
853XX

[drew2k]

Got my upgrade messages on both boxes last night, but still no actual upgrade. I think somebody up there hates me. ;)

[convbcuda]

I also got the message and forced a call, but no update, too. Of course this receiver is starting its death spiral by rebooting on its own during football games and last night while watching a recorded program.

[bobmun]

i got the update this morning at 1:15
601xx

[slowchange]

Got the message about the phone line yesterday afternoon. Just forced a phone call, still didn't get the upgrade. Live in 086xx near Trenton, NJ.

[jbradway]

I got the message yesterday and the update today. Had to check the DD audio setting as it picked DD PCM by default I guess. The other thing I noticed is that when the Folders/Groups option is on in the Now Playing List, the short cut numbers have changed. I set up a macros to go to the Season Pass and To Do List using the number short cuts. When I press those buttons it now takes me to the Now Playing List. When I turn off folders, it works like it always did. I might just leave folders off because I never considered it to be the uber option anyway. I also don't notice much difference on the speed since I wasn't really all that slow on this box anyway. My old HR10 was very slow, but this box has been very responsive since I swapped.

[dscott72]

Dito on the message. Although I noticed that said 6.3, not 6.3a.

[rcavatr]

Is anyone here upgrading to the HR20-700? I spoke with DTV today and they said they would be phasing out these MPEG 2 units early next year. So does that mean we only have 6 months at best to use these things? Why the excitement over 6.3?

It's my understanding that D* hasn't enabled the OTA input on the unit yet. If that is the case, I will not let them upgrade mine until it is enabled. I get my locals over OTA, and I'm probably not in a large enough market to get them through D* yet.

John

[scotthemme]

Someone mentioned that they thought a call was required to get the message saying that an update was coming soon and to make sure the phone line was connected. But I believe others said they received the message without having their phone line connected. Can anyone verify whether or not the phone line needs to be connected in order to get the upgrade coming soon message?

[kroddy]

Whilst not absolute proof, the fact that I had no message before I forced a call yesterday evening, but did have immediately after the call would suggest that the message does indeed come down the phone line.

[morgantown]

Whilst not absolute proof, the fact that I had no message before I forced a call yesterday evening, but did have immediately after the call would suggest that the message does indeed come down the phone line.

Same thing here...lets see if October 4th (just a rumored date) brings anything other than Fall weather.

[hybucket]

It appears that I got the Update COming message and the Update Download within moments of each other. It now says "Pending Restart," but because I've got stuff recording I will wait for 2AM.
I am in the 021xx zip.

[chevyman601]

i got the message on one of the 3 hr10's i have, but the other 2 that didn't have the message they got the 6.3a update. whats funny is my friend got the message on all 7 of his hr10's but no update so he is mad.

[mhn2]

Forced a call last night after receiving the "upgrade coming message" yesterday morning. It did a quick download and went to the pending restart status. I went ahead and rebooted the system and it installed the software. I live in the DFW area in the 760XX area code.

I like the folders and improved channel selection screen. I had to go in and select or favorites channels again, but that wasn't a big deal. I only noticed a slight speed improvement in the onscreen guide. I will check the speed of the season pass manager and other aspects this weekend. So far, it looks like my R10 in the bedroom is still the fastest of our 3 DTivo's. Oh well, I'm still happy to have the upgrade. :up:

[rifleman69]

Hey ebonovic, do you know more about the Apple Computer "Bonjour" software that is now a part of the 6.3a software? Saw that at the end of the system info screen and it's definitely not on the 6.1 software on my Samsung DirecTiVo.

[Finnstang]

Hey ebonovic, do you know more about the Apple Computer "Bonjour" software that is now a part of the 6.3a software? Saw that at the end of the system info screen and it's definitely not on the 6.1 software on my Samsung DirecTiVo.
I believe I read somehwere on DDB, that the software was there in 6.2 for the DtiVos, but it was called something else.

[darthrsg]

Forced a call last night after receiving the "upgrade coming message" yesterday morning.


Same here in 397xx. No restart pending though :( .

[Korkle]

I got the msg yesterday and forced a call --- the upgrade downloaded and I restarted ---the 6.1 installed and is working great. Guide loads almost instantly on page down :). this morning I rearanged three items in the pass manager as a test and what usually took 4-5 minutes to return control to me was completed in less than a minute. So many of the things I hated about Tivo are being fixed.

[mle_ii]

So when and where does this "restart pending" information display for those who have seen it?

[cforrest]

Just forced a call, now have pending restart. Will have to wait until 2am to find out what version I received, 6.3 or 6.3a. Zip code is 110XX

[etsolow]

Just forced a call, now have pending restart. Will have to wait until 2am to find out what version I received, 6.3 or 6.3a. Zip code is 110XX
You can force a restart now... either through the menu, or just by pulling the power plug!

[hiker]

So when and where does this "restart pending" information display for those who have seen it?
When you get it (who knows when?) it will show up on Phone menu "Last Call Status:" in place of "Successful".

[cforrest]

Ok, forced a restart via remote, now have 6.3a. Yippee :D

[utvnut]

Dozens of forced calls, no download but I have the message saying it is coming. Maybe I am not dancing correctly, is it clockwise or counter-clockwise?

Seriously, it just keeps saying call status-suceeded.

[BrettStah]

Dozens of forced calls, no download but I have the message saying it is coming. Maybe I am not dancing correctly, is it clockwise or counter-clockwise?

Seriously, it just keeps saying call status-suceeded.
I'm pretty sure DirecTV only updates the list of receivers that should install the software update once a day, so forcing dozens a calls in a single day is a waste of your time.

[litzdog911]

Dozens of forced calls, no download but I have the message saying it is coming. Maybe I am not dancing correctly, is it clockwise or counter-clockwise?

Seriously, it just keeps saying call status-suceeded.

Be patient. Mine hasn't gotten the update yet either.

[hiker]

I'm pretty sure DirecTV only updates the list of receivers that should install the software update once a day, so forcing dozens a calls in a single day is a waste of your time.
But we don't know what time of day it happens, do we? It could happen 5 mins after my call. I'm doing about 3 calls a day and still no love. People are reporting getting it after the 5th call, same day. Only 1 of my HR10's has 6.3 and that happened only because I replaced the HDD with one preloaded with 6.3. :rolleyes:

Geaux Bengal Tigers
hiker, LSU class of '65. originally from N.O. Lakeview

[Syzygy]

Just got a message today saying I would get 6.3 soon and warning me to make sure my phone connection was working.

Funny thing was that the message appeared today (Friday) but was dated Wednesday -- as if it had been sent then.

I checked my Phone status and saw that the connection was working and that the download had already occurred (Restart pending). Silly message! ;)

[elvisisded]

Just got a message today saying I would get 6.3 soon and warning me to make sure my phone connection was working.

Funny thing was that the message appeared today (Friday) but was dated Wednesday -- as if it had been sent then.

I checked my Phone status and saw that the connection was working and that the download had already occurred (Restart pending). Silly message! ;)
Same thing for me.

[DaveWhittle]

I got my notice on Wednesday. I forced a phone call and a restart and nothing. I tried again today (Friday) and I'm at 6.3a now! :up:

Didn't take long to install... maybe about a half hour. Folders are cool. :cool:

[Morris Herman]

I got the notice today Friday and it was dated Wednesday. I also forced a daily call but no change. Looks like about a two day delay before the update arrives from the above posts in this thread.

[Lo-CA$H]

I got the update message Wednesday (9/27), forced a daily call, no upgrade. The receiver was scheduled for a daily call at 1:40am Saturday. As of this morning, I now have the 6.3a upgrade. Folders are definitely COOL! Zip code is 281XX.

[Ed Dixon]

I received the 6.3 update message today, although it was dated 9/27. Normally my unit calls in about 2AM, but the next scheduled call shows as Sat (today) afternoon at 2:07 PM. Guess we'll see later if anything occurs.

Zip code here is 242xx.

Ed

[kenboy]

Hooked up to a phone line for the first time in six months a week or two ago, so calls would start again. Got the notice on 9/27 that the update was coming, and it told me at that point my next call would be 10:37 am today, Saturday, 9/30.

At 10:45 am, it still said it would call at 10:37. That's not good. Have forced several calls now; still no update, still no "pending restart." Sigh. It says my next call will be on 10/2.

I'm in 07xxx. Meh.

[no-blue-screen]

I hate waiting, but I have again adopted the philosophy that "all good things will come to those who wait"

[Onazuka]

I hate waiting, but I have again adopted the philosophy that "all good things will come to those who wait"

Good things come to those who go after them and get what they want. :D

[no-blue-screen]

I tried telling that to Pam Anderson, but it looks like I am still stuck with my wife :D

[Darichard]

I noticed that people are saying there is no message about the upgrade. I got a message on the 27th that my DVR would get an upgrade. It looks like this:

Subject: 6.3 Software Upgrade
From: DIRECTV
Date: Wed 9/27

ATTENTION: Upcooming HD DRV upgrade requires phone line connection!

If you have the HD DVR you'll soon be receiving our version 6.3 software upgrade. The upgrade will only occur if your phone line is connected.

Thank you for being a loyal DIRECTV customer.

Addition: I neglected to mention that I haven't gotten the update yet.

[PJO1966]

No message here. I'm on 6.3a and had a lockup this morning. I needed to unplug in order to reset.

[KenW]

I got the message and the upgrade.

[Budget_HT]

2 boxes here. Both received message, but only one has upgraded to 6.3 so far.

[tase2]

Hi all,
I upgraded 4 of my zippered HR10's using the Slicer 1.3 and have had no problems so far. Network connectivity using FA120's and Linksys Routers hacked as bridges for G speed.

I would go to:
Upgrading Your Hacked HR10-250 to 6.3 Thread in the underground forum. There is also a script called add63.tcl that I ran by telnet to enable the zippered box to download the slices which I did on the last zippered box last night

I very well may upgrade the last 2 stock HR10s that I have with a Seagate 400, 500 or 750 GB drive and then run the add63.tcl script and upgrade these boxes. :)

Hope this helps,
BigBearf
Where does one find this add63.tcl script?

[tivoboy]

still no love in 94025

[unclebrownie]

Got the message on the 27th and still no 6.3a upgrade in11240 zip even after daily calls and restarts .

[harley3k]

Got the message on the 27th and still no 6.3a upgrade in11240 zip even after daily calls and restarts .

Same here... Good thing I'm getting FIOS installed next week. I can stop waiting for this stupid ugprade.

-h

[twaller]

Got the message, but no 6.3a, forcing calls daily..........no love from D*.

[drew2k]

Somebody up there still doesn't love me ...

[tfederov]

Somebody up there still doesn't love me ...

Somebody up there only loves 1/3 of me. I wonder when D* expects to have it totally pushed out.....

[RandCfilm]

Somebody up there still doesn't love me ...
I finally used the add63.tcl script and received the slices in MFS overnight on both units.

RandCfilm

[tase2]

I finally used the add63.tcl script and received the slices in MFS overnight on both units.

RandCfilm
add63.tcl looks pretty darn complicated :o

Any decent tips?

[hiker]

add63.tcl looks pretty darn complicated :o

Any decent tips?
There's a thread over at DDB with instructions. I'm waiting until Wed., we should all get it then.

[tase2]

There's a thread over at DDB with instructions. I'm waiting until Wed., we should all get it then.
I think when push comes to shove I will also be waiting until Wed. too.

[dturturro]

There's a thread over at DDB with instructions. I'm waiting until Wed., we should all get it then.

Anyone have the link to the specified topic?

[RandCfilm]

add63.tcl looks pretty darn complicated :o

Any decent tips?If your unit is hacked just upload and run add63.tcl, quite simple and it definitely worked for me. My logs showed the upgrade slices were being sent down every night but were not being loaded.

Anyone have the link to the specified topic? As not to link to other sites, go to DDB under Newbie Tivo section and look for the post "6.3a upgrade via bash"

RandCfilm

[Arkie]

wow, I think I'm really gonna be the last person to get this update....... good times.......

[vtfan99]

wow, I think I'm really gonna be the last person to get this update....... good times.......


No....pretty confident it will be me. My wife is even laughing at me...telling me its a D* conspiracy against me. Im starting to think she is right :p

[Brewer4]

2 units no update. There are plenty of us left out from folder and fast navigation nervana. :(

[Todd]

2 units no update. There are plenty of us left out from folder and fast navigation nervana. :(
But we're also left out of audio dropouts and other bugs. I really want it, but I've decided to pull the plug until they fix these problems....

[jshaffer85]

Sorry if this has been covered previously but will I get the update if I'm dialing in via Serial PPP?

I have Vonage phone service and have never been able to consistently connect.

[tfederov]

No bugs (knock on wood) on the one of my three that has the upgrade. Been about a week and a half now.

[yaddayaddayadda]

No....pretty confident it will be me. My wife is even laughing at me...telling me its a D* conspiracy against me. Im starting to think she is right :p

I hate to break it to you both, but I will be the last.

[Lord Vader]

I don't know, yadda--no 6.3a on mine.

[nytevizion]

New to the forums, and NO 6.3 for me either.

[DaveWhittle]

I got it earlier in the week as posted, but alas... I'm getting the audio dropouts. :mad:

Very annoying... it happens once roughly every hour or so for 2 to 5 seconds - sound completely disappears. It's on the recording end too... if you do an instant reply or rewind the dropout is in the exact same place. :down:

I hope they fix this soon.

[Budget_HT]

It might help if folks reporting audio dropouts would also specify which channels were affected.

[DaveWhittle]

It might help if folks reporting audio dropouts would also specify which channels were affected.

Ok... once so far during Saturday Night Live on NBC (I have only watched about 10 minutes), once while watching part of a football game on FOX, and once during The Amazing Race on CBS.

All recorded OTA.

[chevyman601]

FYI: I have 3 HR10's not hacked 2 got the update last wednesday the other did not.
So i did this took the HD out of the one that didn't and put it in the one that did, started it up after getting error #51 did a C&D then set up unit as new did the daily call that night it updated to 6.3a put the HD back in the other HR10 after getting an error #51 did a C&D and now i have 6.3a on all three of my HR10's. You might have to call Dtv and tell the computer x721 to get locals back but everythings working on all 3, no problems (note if you do it this way you will lose you saved programs)

[WhyMe]

Went to my brothers tonight and he has 6.3a, he is not using Dolby Digital so has had no dropouts since he got it last thurs. And was not that excited about it but I am excited and still haven't got it yet...

[GalenMD]

It might help if folks reporting audio dropouts would also specify which channels were affected.
Will do. But just so that you guys know, I started having the audio dropouts on both my units over the last 2 weeks or so, and NEITHER have 6.3 yet (both on 3.1f). Is it possible this is a D* issue and not software?

[Cheezmo]

Tough for it to be a D* issue when most people are having the problem on OTA channels.

[Arcady]

No problems here on 6.3a and I watch mostly OTA programming on this box.

I think people are blaming 6.3 for antenna problems.

[Budget_HT]

But many folks have reported no dropout problems prior to 6.3a, so the antenna problems don't seem likely in their cases.

[DaveWhittle]

I think people are blaming 6.3 for antenna problems.

Why would my unit have no audio problems for over a year, then as soon as the software is upgraded there would be unrelated "antenna problems"? :confused:

...And suddenly many other people would coincidently report the exact same thing? :confused:

[cheer]

No problems here on 6.3a and I watch mostly OTA programming on this box.

I think people are blaming 6.3 for antenna problems.
So coincidentally I developed antenna problems (affecting both OTA and satellite channels, mind you) that made dolby digital output go from perfect to unusable EXACTLY when I upgraded to 6.3?

I don't think so.

[Fullcourt81]

A a couple of days ago I tried to do a test call, and realized that there was no dial tone, I had to wiggle the jack and phone line. Got the message, and then 6.3a.
Great to have folders, and a speedy menu system.
I rarely record anything OTA, but I saw something interesting on PBS HD, (Cousteau exploring American waters), so I did. The audio dropouts were every 30 seconds for at least 3 or 4 seconds every time. Very annoying. I don't get perfect OTA, but I never noticed this before.
I will record something else OTA to confirm.

[eddieras99]

Some of you probably won't believe this, but the unit I have hooked up (we only have one TV and one HR10-250) is still on its original software version -- 3.1.5; its been online for well over 2 years, has never been plugged into a phone line and has never gotten a message, update or software slice. Where's my 6.3? :-)

same version here - will that pose a problem?