Big Brother 8/29

[Dssturbo1]

wonder how the double eviction week will play out. if we see tonight how it unfolds or have to wait till thursday.

[scottykempf]

"First the trampoline, then Neil Patrick Harris. What's next? I'm gonna win the show?????" LOL

What's even funnier about the whole Daniel doorbell thing is that it went on a lot longer, she rang that bell like 150 times and would not go away. Boogie and George were in the kitchen looking up at here wondering "What the hell is she doing??"

[jerrye25]

You know, I watched Mike Boogie in season 2. He was a tool then and he's a tool now, but it sure is fun to watch him and Will just steamroll this house. I really hope Will can win this thing in the end.

[scottykempf]

Boogie and Neil Patrick seem kinda similar, don't you think?

You know, it occured to me tonight what Wil and Boogie's strategy is. Convince Houseguest A that they want to be in the final two with Houseguest B. (someone weak that they can win against, such as George or Erika.) Of course, Wil and Boogie only want to be in the final two with Wil and Boogie, and they don't really care at that point which one of them wins, as long as one of them wins.

[timr_42]

Is Will + Mike + Erika = Chill Town?
Is Will + Mike + Janelle = Chill Town?

NO!!!!

Girls, I hate to break it to you, Chill Town is just Will + Mike.

Like Erika said "Bro's before Ho's".

[gossamer88]

Timothy 6:10: For the love of money is the root of all evil. . .

First off, let me start off by saying that I'm no Danielle fan or religious. That said, I do feel bad for Danielle. I can't remember a worse betrayal than this one. Erika is even more gullible than Janelle. . .and that is saying a lot. Can't wait to see her reaction when Boogie betrays her. That's gonna be priceless.

As good as CT is, Janelle really should win this. The girl is simply amazing. Not to mention, CTs comeupance is well overdue!

[newsposter]

ok...

dani not voting for erika
jim not voting for erika
howie?
marcellas?
geo?
will or mike?

so who's gonna vote for erika?

I think i would pay 19.95 to watch the PPV of erika watching the videos of chilltown for the first time.

And if any girl in BB in the future ever believes any guy...they deserve what they get!

[Dssturbo1]

cbs adds just played saying 2 evictions in the one hour show on thursday.
dani goes then hopefully will and boggie make it by the second eviction thusday.

dont want to see either of them go yet, would hope erica or CG goes.

jani knows she is not part of CT but she definately used them and they her the past two weeks to all stay in. along with her superduper veto comp skills. that one minute was Fast......

[USAFSSO]

What day of the week do these events happen, noms and PoV's. How long will Dani have to sit around and hate everyone till the vote Thurs. (Yes I know the vote and HoH are on Thurs). :confused:

[mchips]

What day of the week do these events happen, noms and PoV's. How long will Dani have to sit around and hate everyone till the vote Thurs. (Yes I know the vote and HoH are on Thurs). :confused: The POV comp. was Saturday evening.

Erika told Dani on Sunday that she was thinking of putting her up.

Dani's drunken tirade happened later that evening.

Veto ceremony was Monday, around noon.

Thus, Dani knew she was probably going up on Sunday, and then it was official on Monday. So, if you count Sunday, she will have known for about 5 days by Thursday.

[jurysch]

Did anyone else just not care about Neil Patrick Harris at all? Copyright issues aside, how do you not call him Doogie Howser, M.D. at some point? I get it, it's a semi-plug for How I Met Your Mother, but c'mon, that show's terrible anyway.

[scottykempf]

Maybe they wanted to respect the man. They didn't call him by his character name on How I Met Your Mother, either. They called him Neil, which is his name. I think that as he has grown up, he has gotten more respect as an actor and grown out of the Doogie Howser curse.

[etemple]

Great episode, and I'm glad to see danielle finally get hers. She's been two-faced since s3, only nice to people when she wants to be, throwing her kids out there when it suits her and then turning on anyne who doesn't fall in line. She was completely threatened by the strong players in s3, and that's a large part of the reason Lisa won, because danielle was too busy demonizing the rest of the house (literally). Erika is totally getting played by CT, but it's good to see someone not falling for dani's crap.

[verdugan]

Hi could they not call him 'NPH'? He was great in Harold & Kumar.

[mask2343]

Wow. 2 of the most impressive feats in Big Brother history in one episode!

1) CT totally steamrolled Erika. Very, very, very impressive. The most dominant strategists in reality history.
2) Jani in the veto competition. It isn't even fair anymore. She is the most dominant competitor in reality history.

This season has been so good, I'm not looking forward to Survivor anymore. I want more BB!

[ElVee]

I got a kick out of CG talking with CT about how they continue to stay in the game.

It's just strange (or selective CBS editing) that all season long, every person in the house has mentioned that they must get rid of CT. Then they become HOH and don't put Will and Boogie up.

As a Season 6 team fan, I have to say Kasar made the first crucial error by going after floaters way back when. Janelle made the second, when she screwed over James. Season 6 won 4 HOH's in a row. They could have deciamted the house. If they would have just bounced Will, Boogie would have just been another floater. The floaters would never have held together as well as CT has.

I just cannot believe that CT is in the final four. Basically, it's two showmance couples and CG. I wonder which heart gets broken first, Janelle or Erika.

I don't know how anyone thinks they can beat Will in the final. He has played the best game again.

[jlb]

......I get it, it's a semi-plug for How I Met Your Mother, but c'mon, that show's terrible anyway.

Really? I have thought HIMYM has been a lot of fun. If nothing else, Doogie is great in the show. I was hoping that Will would go up to Doogie and say "Have you met Boogie?" That would have been funny.

If it were Janelle versus Will in the final, I don't know who I would vote for. Janelle, clearly the best competion player, or Will, the best strategist there ever was in BB history.....

What I would love to see is some stunt casting on TAR and have Will and Janelle go as a team. That would be great!!!

[mask2343]

I think Janelle vs Will would have Janelle win. The fact that Will has won before probably will sway at least 2 votes.

[marksman]

I am amazed how the CT boys keep doing it. Will is still the puppet master, but I have to give credit to Mike Boogie for contributing some.

What is interesting to me is they have gotten control of Ericka and Janelle, who between them, I believe have won 5 HOH's and 5 Vetos (I know Janelle is 3 and 4 and I think Ericka has won 2 and 1, correct me if I am wrong). All the while I think Boogie won 1 veto and 1 HOH. I know part of their strategy is not to win contests, but taking those two competitive women to the final 4 could be a problem if a contest win determines who ends up going on.

As for the Doogie Hating. I don't get it. I suspect he would have done it even if he were not on CBS and it were not a problem. Will has been a NPH for a while and he talks about it all the time. It was a good fit. More applicable than bringing in some band or musical act that has no connection or tie in to the show, which is what usually seems to happen.

[TriBruin]

I am amazed how the CT boys keep doing it. Will is still the puppet master, but I have to give credit to Mike Boogie for contributing some.

I don't know how much credit I can give Boogie. He and Wil remind me of car salesman. If you try to buy a car but start hedging about the deal, what happens, you get "passed" over to a Sales Manger for the hard sell and close. Boogie may be a fair salesman, but Wil is the master "closer"

What is interesting to me is they have gotten control of Ericka and Janelle, who between them, I believe have won 5 HOH's and 5 Vetos (I know Janelle is 3 and 4 and I think Ericka has won 2 and 1, correct me if I am wrong). All the while I think Boogie won 1 veto and 1 HOH. I know part of their strategy is not to win contests, but taking those two competitive women to the final 4 could be a problem if a contest win determines who ends up going on.

We have no clue how good Will could be in competitions. But I think your right. If Wil & Boogie want to be in the Final 2, then they don't want Janelle or Erika in the Final 3 (I think they even have hinted at that).

But I don't think Boogie should want Will in the Final 2 either. If Boogie has any chance to win this, he can't have the "Puppet Master" next to him. Everyone knows the brains of Chill Town is Will.

As for the Doogie Hating. I don't get it. I suspect he would have done it even if he were not on CBS and it were not a problem. Will has been a NPH for a while and he talks about it all the time. It was a good fit. More applicable than bringing in some band or musical act that has no connection or tie in to the show, which is what usually seems to happen.

Is Will really obsessed with NPH? I don't have the live feeds and only follow the summaries.

[Sir_winealot]

Great episode, and I'm glad to see danielle finally get hers. She's been two-faced since s3, only nice to people when she wants to be, throwing her kids out there when it suits her and then turning on anyne who doesn't fall in line. She was completely threatened by the strong players in s3, and that's a large part of the reason Lisa won, because danielle was too busy demonizing the rest of the house (literally). Erika is totally getting played by CT, but it's good to see someone not falling for dani's crap.


I so agree.

Certainly, Danielle was betrayed...but as Erika said it was nice to see her 'true colors.' That doorbell scene was great...

[TR7spyder]

I am amazed how the CT boys keep doing it. Will is still the puppet master, but I have to give credit to Mike Boogie for contributing some.

Perhaps I am being unfair, but Mike probably has plenty of experience of using women in this manner, so I have a hard time giving him ANY credit… So he gets some cheap thrills (or more…) while manipulating a woman proven to have some relationship “issues”. I am sure he will later try to take credit for how well he played her :rolleyes:.

The only person who can beat Will is Janelle and Will is the only person who can beat Janni. So the two of them must do whatever they can to get rid of the other.

My guess is that now that Danni is gone, they have no use for Janelle, so she (and not Erica) is CT’s next target.

[unicorngoddess]

I think that as he has grown up, he has gotten more respect as an actor and grown out of the Doogie Howser curse.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. My mom turned to me and asked Who's Neil Patrick Harris? I looked right back at her and said, "Doogie Howser MD" and she goes, "Ohhhhh"

I thought it was great. I mean, I don't watch the LFs 24/7 but I've heard Will mentioning his name a LOT! He was hoping one of the luxery prizes would be a walk-on roll for How I Met Your Mother so he could meet him and he would just go on and on about him. I mean, how cool would it be to have your favorite TV star wake you up in the morning out of the blue?

[Langree]

I wouldn't be too sure about that. My mom turned to me and asked Who's Neil Patrick Harris? I looked right back at her and said, "Doogie Howser MD" and she goes, "Ohhhhh"



Ok, so your mom isn't the target audience for Starship Troopers or Harold and Kumar, that doesn't mean he hasn't moved beyond DH.

[ScottE22]

It is almost cruel how Mike is manipulating Erika. Anyone who watched her season of BB probably inferred that she has some serious relationship / self-esteem issues and to use it so blatantly against her is just rotten.
Can't wait to see her reaction when Boogie betrays her. That's gonna be priceless.
Oh boy - I can wait. She's going to take it very badly I think. I don't know if I can watch...

[SuperZippy]

Oh boy - I can wait. She's going to take it very badly I think. I don't know if I can watch...

i thought that was why we all watched..

[ScottE22]

i thought that was why we all watched..

It's like a horror movie - covering your eyes and peeking through your fingers...

;)

Seriously, though, it's fun to watch people get played and duped, but I get the feeling that there are some real, emotional issues there and it's not always fun to watch people get that emotionally crushed.

To me, Dani was a different story. She was played by Erika who was being played by CT - she got drunk and embarassed herself on TV. Being upset because you got played and then evicted is one thing, being emotionally crushed, IMHO, is something different.

Or maybe I'm just too sensitive... :D

[pmyers]

If CT can just make it through Thursday night they are going to be golden!

I'm going to be p*ssed off on Thursday if the 2nd eviction doesn't involve them having some type of chance to get themselves off.

[ireland967]

I like Jani's chances of making it to the final 4. Assuming Dani is booted first on Thursday, the only person left I think would be gunning for Jani's eviction would be Erika, who isn't eligible for HOH.

Either of CT would prob put up Jani and Erika, and boot Erika (assuming Will has at least a couple minutes to tell Boogie what to think).

If CG would happen to win, I see him putting both of CT on the block.

[jradford]

Very funny episode. Loved seeing NPH. He had the line of the night:

"If I see Boogie wearing another Dolce shirt...." or something like that.

He'll always be Doogie Howser, but not in a "Screech - Dustin Diamond" kind of way. The roles he's had recently have been great characters. On HIMYM, he 100% makes the show. If he wasn't on there, the show would have been gone by week 4.

As for Dani, boy did she lose it. They were kind to her with what they showed last night. Her tantrum lasted hours. One other thing that wasn't shown that I dound interesting, (does not spoil anything, but not shown on show, in regards to Erika and Will dealing with Dani from behind the HOH doors.):

They showed Erika going to get Will to hang out with her in HOH during Dani's tantrum. On live feeds, Erika actually went to Boogie 1st, which makes a little more sense. Boogie shooed her away saying he was sleeping and didn't want to deal with it. After her pleading got her nowhere, she went to get Will to GET Boogie. Will went into Boogie's room with Erika saying, "Mike, Erika feels very uncomfortable right now. Dani has lost it. You need to hang out with her in HOH," repeating a couple times, "Erika is very uncomfortable and you need to help her." Boogie shooed them both away again complaining that he dind't want to deal with it and wanted to sleep. So basically, Boogie continued to prove himself to be a worthless POS who only cares about himself, even outside of the "game" factor of the show. Just wanted to make it clear that Will wasn't up stairs in HOH the entire night by his choice, but rather by Boogie's unwillingness to help.

[KRS]

Yay - not only did Danielle get "scumbagged," but she got drunk on national TV and made a complete fool of herself. That's better than a trampoline in my book! The HoH doorbell thing was priceless - I wish they had showed it all.

I was nervous there for a bit that Will was going to get Erika's nomination, but when he said he was going to stay with her all the way up to the ceremony, I knew he was in the clear. It was odd that Boogie didn't sleep in HoH that night, but then again, he might have messed things up. I can't believe Erika still trusts him after his really shady answers to her direct questions.
You're going to take me to the final two, right?
Long pause
Errrrrrr...ummmm...I thought we were going to have a talk about that at some point.

[dtle]

Anybody notice a pattern? Any houseguest who gets "thrown under the bus" (nominated after the POV) is the one voted out. Was it like this is past seasons?

[Chunky]

I can't believe Erika still trusts him after his really shady answers to her direct questions.
You're going to take me to the final two, right?
Long pause
Errrrrrr...ummmm...I thought we were going to have a talk about that at some point.

Right but not being a subscriber to the live feeds, I wonder what is edited for effect :confused:

Any time you hear the crickets, you gotta wonder.

[IndyJones1023]

Why didn't Danielle just say to Erika "with Chilltown you'll be #3, with me you'll be #2." :confused:

[newsposter]

You're going to take me to the final two, right?
Long pause
Errrrrrr...ummmm...I thought we were going to have a talk about that at some point.

that's the point at which even the most loyal erika fan gotta say...stupid girl!

The man lied to your face and your mind told you he lied. You are in a game where only one person can win 500K. Do you think your mind told you that for a reason? duh!

ugh...

i still would like to know who she thinks will vote for her and hear her say it...wish cbs showed us that.

[jradford]

It was odd that Boogie didn't sleep in HoH that night, but then again, he might have messed things up. I can't believe Erika still trusts him after his really shady answers to her direct questions.
You're going to take me to the final two, right?
Long pause
Errrrrrr...ummmm...I thought we were going to have a talk about that at some point.
My spoiler a few posts back talks about this, if your interested.

[pmyers]

My spoiler a few posts back talks about this, if your interested.

Can you answer this for me? Does the rest of the house know about Erika and Boogie's Showmance?

Did I actually hear Will (or was it Boogie) tell somebody that they don't think anybody can win against Chicken George? Man that guy just bugs me everytime he's on the screen. I can't stand his laugh.

[mbalgeman]

At this point, I think Chill Town has this thing won...

1. Janelle wins the HoH next, puts up CG and Erika. Will votes out Erika, Boogie votes out CG, Janelle breaks the tie and votes for Erika, Erika leaves. Boogie doesn't need to betray Erika... That leaves Janelle, Will, Boogie, and Chicken George... Even if Janelle puts up Erika and Will/Boogie, Erika still goes because Janelle believes that Will/Boogie are so inferior at the competitions that she can beat them every time. The only wrinkle in this is if Erika happens to win the PoV, but I see CG going in that case.
2. With Janelle unable to win HoH and CG not being able to win anything and Will actually with incentive to win HoH, the chances are pretty good that Will or Boogie win HoH. At that point, they are both safe and if Janelle doesn't win the PoV, she's gone. Otherwise CG is gone.
3. If Janelle won the PoV in #2, then Will and Boogie really need to man up for this last HoH comp. Otherwise, there is no way one of them doesn't beat Chicken George.

[pmyers]

At this point, I think Chill Town has this thing won...

1. Janelle wins the HoH next, puts up CG and Erika. Will votes out Erika, Boogie votes out CG, Janelle breaks the tie and votes for Erika, Erika leaves. Boogie doesn't need to betray Erika... That leaves Janelle, Will, Boogie, and Chicken George... Even if Janelle puts up Erika and Will/Boogie, Erika still goes because Janelle believes that Will/Boogie are so inferior at the competitions that she can beat them every time. The only wrinkle in this is if Erika happens to win the PoV, but I see CG going in that case.
2. With Janelle unable to win HoH and CG not being able to win anything and Will actually with incentive to win HoH, the chances are pretty good that Will or Boogie win HoH. At that point, they are both safe and if Janelle doesn't win the PoV, she's gone. Otherwise CG is gone.
3. If Janelle won the PoV in #2, then Will and Boogie really need to man up for this last HoH comp. Otherwise, there is no way one of them doesn't beat Chicken George.

your forgetting about the double eviction on Thursday....

[TR7spyder]

your forgetting about the double eviction on Thursday....

And that is a very good point! Will was able to work his magic by making sure that he was last to influence the HOH. These nominations and voting might happen on the spot and CT might not get a chance to say anything at all.

After Danni is gone tomorrow night (I am assuming that it will happen), why wouldn’t anyone of the remaining HGs nominate CT? Other than because Will has already worked his magic? :)

[jradford]

Can you answer this for me? Does the rest of the house know about Erika and Boogie's Showmance?

Did I actually hear Will (or was it Boogie) tell somebody that they don't think anybody can win against Chicken George? Man that guy just bugs me everytime he's on the screen. I can't stand his laugh.
The showmance is no secret to the other HG's. I think they tried to keep it under cover at first, but for at least the last week, it's been pretty out in the open that they are "hanging out" at night and doing more than talking game.

[jpwoof]

Why didn't Danielle just say to Erika "with Chilltown you'll be #3, with me you'll be #2." :confused:

My point exactly.

[pmyers]

I loved watching a drunken Danny! ;)

[Steveknj]

And that is a very good point! Will was able to work his magic by making sure that he was last to influence the HOH. These nominations and voting might happen on the spot and CT might not get a chance to say anything at all.

After Danni is gone tomorrow night (I am assuming that it will happen), why wouldn’t anyone of the remaining HGs nominate CT? Other than because Will has already worked his magic? :)

That is a HUGE point. I think CBS decided on double elimination to perhaps eliminate some of CTs power and give Janelle a better chance to win. My thought is, Will has already won, the entertainment value of CT will be diminished once they are at the point where "they can't lose" and they may feel that CT is about ready to vote out Janelle, who's the only other interesting house guest left besides CT. So this way, one of CT will go, and, especially if it's Boogie who goes. The test of wills betwteen Will and Janelle would make for a fantastic finish, with CBS' hope that Janelle can win. It's all just a theory.

Does anyone know if the producers plan these types of things from the beginning or if they watch how things are going, and then introduce features based on either:

1) Entertainment value
2) Tweaking the game in the favor of one houseguest or another..

It sure seems like certain competitions happen at certain times based on the game situation.

[verdugan]

That is a HUGE point. I think CBS decided on double elimination to perhaps eliminate some of CTs power and give Janelle a better chance to win.

Actually I think it has more to do with the fact that they cut the season short by a week or so. Thus they need to pack the same number of evictions in less time/episodes.

[marksman]

Plus remember there is no exemption from the HOH competition for the last one. So someone could win twice in a row.

I still think Janelle still being there may be their downfall because she could win 2 in a row, if she does not win this week.

[mchips]

Actually I think it has more to do with the fact that they cut the season short by a week or so. Thus they need to pack the same number of evictions in less time/episodes. +1

They've already had one double-eviction this season, when George won HOH and had to immediately nominate, but then the POV comp and next HOH were mid-week. Similar to the double-eviction last season.

I think this double-eviction, all in one day, is just to put a different spin on the double-eviction, as well as surprise the houseguests. For all we know, they could have always had this planned, so they had to have BB originally scheduled to end later, to catch us and the houseguests off-guard, and therefore could have always planned to end it mid-September.

Both Survivor and The Amazing Race are starting mid-September on CBS, and that probably had something to do with shortening this BB season.

The houseguests have all been expecting some kind of morphomatic for weeks now. All have been studying the houseguest wall with all of their pictures, memorizing each other's features.

They did it different this year, than last, and all agreed it was easier than last season with Janelle. Could be they were trying to make it easier to give all of the houseguests a shot at winning it, plus they wanted it to be different. It's not like it was a complete surprise. All of the houseguests have been expecting it eventually, and therefore have been studying for it.

Last year, Janelle beat Ivette by only 40 seconds. This season, all of the women got between 1 and 2 min. As Janelle told the girls, all it takes is one mistake. Janelle could have just as easily lost that comp. Danielle lost by only 23 seconds. Janelle kills in almost all of the comps. Some of the other houseguests want to turn it into a conspiracy that they're tailored for Janelle, because they don't want to accept that maybe Janelle just kicks ass, which she does. Plus they don't know that CT has been helping her for a few weeks now.

I think they just try to provide comps that those on the block have a chance at winning. Like when George was first on the block. People felt that was rigged for him. It wasn't, it was just a comp that gave him a fighting chance. Any one of them could have won it. It just came down to who wanted it the most. Plus it made for good TV when he and Kaysar got their hair shaved off.

Then when Janelle had Danielle on the block. Danielle is not good at the comps, and it ended up being a comp that allowed for others to help her win.

When Danielle won HOH, after hanging on the spider web, Erika could have won it. Erika is known for being the person with the most endurance.

I don't think it's at all been one-sided.

The fourth week when Janelle won HOH, that comp was designed so all of the other houseguests could have picked off S6 one by one and prevented them from winning, yet S6 (Janelle) still won it.

I think the producers try to create comps to thwart the plans of the houseguests, to prevent too much predictability, but they're always comps that anyone can win. Janelle is just good. She doesn't win them all, but she wins more than most anyone else. She's even been killing them at poker.

[etemple]

Loved seeing NPH. He had the line of the night:

"If I see Boogie wearing another Dolce shirt...." or something like that.


+1!!!
I actually laughed out loud at that!

[USAFSSO]

Actually I think it has more to do with the fact that they cut the season short by a week or so. Thus they need to pack the same number of evictions in less time/episodes.


IIR they had two extra guests at the start of the season than what they first wanted, due to votes or something. I think that was how CG got in.

[verdugan]

IIR they had two extra guests at the start of the season than what they first wanted, due to votes or something. I think that was how CG got in.

CBS knew about the extra guests obviously. I still think it's due to the short season.

[TR7spyder]

Actually I think it has more to do with the fact that they cut the season short by a week or so. Thus they need to pack the same number of evictions in less time/episodes.

It has nothing to do with the fact that they needed to shorted the season. They could have still done it in a couple of days, like they did it last time with CG. From what I can guess (and it is a pure speculation), it seems like the EVERYTHING will happen on the spot and if it does, the puppet master might not get a chance to have as much influence on the outcome, as he would usually have.

And this particular twist might be something that producers are doing "on the fly" to hinder him.