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LionMage
08-20-2006, 03:45 PM
I've just spent the last hour or so trying to find an appropriate web page on TiVo-dot-com to report what I view as bugs and misfeatures in the latest software update. I finally decided to use the web page that is designed for suggesting new features to TiVo.

It's great that TiVo takes feature suggestions from its customers, but it should also be taking bug reports and user complaints. Otherwise, they are kidding themselves by living in a false vacuum of complaints. Users like me will just get frustrated and vent anywhere else they think they can (like blogs, or this community discussion forum).

Here's the meat of what I sent to TiVo, or tried to:

My TiVo was recently upgraded to the latest software release, which features KidsZone. Unfortunately, this release seems broken. Even more distressing, your web site provides no indication for how rank-and-file TiVo users are supposed to report bugs or complain about changes to the TiVo user experience.

This latest software update contains no features that I need or want, as I have no children in my household, and furthermore, even if I had children, I would not want to leave filtering solely in the hands of a machine. Rather, the user experience of TiVo's software has degenerated to the point where I no longer feel as though I am getting value for what I am paying each month.

Since this latest software update, I have noticed substantial bugs in the new TiVo software. Here are just some examples:
Save to VCR used to display a black billboard with white text immediately before playing back the content to be saved. Now, after the black billboard is displayed, the TiVo green menu background displays for a couple seconds before the actual program material starts playing back.
Menu operations are more sluggish. There is a substantial pause now between pressing any control on the remote and seeing the results of that action on-screen. Most users would probably describe this as being "less responsive."
Channel changing and guide operations performed while watching live TV are both slower.
In the Now Playing list, pressing the Clear button to delete an item doesn't immediately move it to the Deleted Items folder. Now, an X is displayed next to the item, and the selection is moved to the next item in the list; eventually, the Xed item moves to the Deleted Items folder. The user interface was better in the previous release, in my opinion. First of all, there's no reason to mark an item with an X and leave it in the list for some indeterminate amount of time before making it disappear. Just make it disappear; the Deleted Items folder is there for a reason, so if the user makes a mistake, they're covered. Secondly, the system moves the selection for me, which subverts how I have been accustomed to removing groups of items from the list. Perhaps this wouldn't be so bad, but since performance is so sluggish, there's every chance I might hit another button on the remote by the time the menu updates on-screen.
Items have been renamed on the top-level menu, which was disruptive to me and my fiancee at first. In fact, she was so confused, she wasn't sure where to go at first to manage season passes. Renaming menu items and reshuffling them are both big no-nos, especially on a consumer electronics device with a well-established user interface.

LionMage
08-21-2006, 12:16 AM
Oh, forgot to mention one more item that's not really a bug, but I think it's a step backward in usability. Once upon a time, if you were in a menu that wasn't a top-level menu, and you hit the left arrow on the directional control, the selection would briefly move to the "Don't do anything" line of the menu, and the yellow checkmark icon would briefly light next to that item, before the menu one level up was finally displayed. This was a very good positive feedback mechanism for the user. With the latest software update, the menu one level up is displayed without the intervening animation. Might confuse some users, both newbies and those who were accustomed to the old UI.

LionMage
08-21-2006, 11:26 PM
Yet another annoyance since this last software update: Scheduled recordings that won't record.

I scheduled the Comedy Central roast of William Shatner at 1:00 AM (Arizona), and it failed to record. Checking the Recording History under To Do List, I saw the following message: "This program was not recorded because there was an unexpected conflict with another program."

I checked, and there was no other program scheduled on or near 1:00 AM. The only thing I can think of is, maybe a TiVo suggestion somehow bumped the Roast off my schedule. But that would mean that suggestions are now taking priority over scheduled recordings, which they're not supposed to do. None of my season passes were scheduled to record at that time. So what gives?

Oh, and in case you're wondering, there have been no schedule changes since I scheduled this program to record a few days ago.

toshea
08-21-2006, 11:44 PM
AMEN! I've just been looking for a way to report the same thing. Whole system is immensely slower. Virtually freezes when downloading new schedule information. The action of the program listings have been changed in an undesirable way, i.e., selecting a currently showing program from the list offers to record it, without than changing the channel as it previously did. Also, when two episodes of a show appear consecutively in the listing, moving from the second to the first causes the information area to display "no information available" until you change the channel and return (or close and reopen the listing).

I've restarted the system twice since the update, hoping something would kick in -- no go.

(I, too, have NOT enabled the KidZone stuff. Seems to me that that, unlike Tivo2Go is something that one should have to register for on the web site.)

toshea
08-21-2006, 11:48 PM
P.S. There is also no way to report problems with the TiVo web site. I recently ended up having to call customer support and talk for fifteen minutes while they proved to themselves something wasn't working. The two people were very pleasant, and resolved the problem (and got someone to fix part of the problem on the web site, eventually). But a monitored email address for web site technical issues would be faster and cheaper for all involved.

megazone
08-22-2006, 08:38 PM
There are official support forums that are part of TiVo's website. If you have problems to report, that's the place to do it.

As for the other issues - KidZone does not leave control in the hands of a machine. You don't have kids so you probably didn't check it out. But the parents have 100% control over what programs are permitted, etc. It is just a tool, you decide how it is used.

The 'Clear' change on Now Playing is deliberate and won't go away. It used to be that when you hit Clear you had to wait for it to delete before you could do anything else. Now you don't. You hit clear, it is marked, and you can move on. It is very nice for clearing out a bunch of recordings. Just keep hitting clear and it'll mark and move to the nice, repeat. I think this is a BIG improvement over the way it used to be and it is an overdue change.

There are definitely problems with 7.3/7.3.1 - and there are MANY threads already discussing this in the general discussion area, including responses from TiVo.