Big Brother All Stars - 8/8

[IndyJones1023]

I can't believe I have to repeat this every week: vote out Chill Town!

[SuperZippy]

watching now, what happened...

[gossamer88]

That James is such a tool. He rips Janelle for not taking out CT, yet he nominates CG when he's HoH (his first ever, mind you). He's gotta win veto, yet takes the phone call. Wasn't a fan before, but now I truly can't stand him. And dare I say…Booger is growing on me?

Actually felt bad for Danielle. No support whatsoever. And at least she kept her word to Howie. Loved the look on James when she told him how hard it was to give up that phone call.

Nominating Kayser was the smarter move. She didn't fall for all that Marcelles bashing. It was pretty funny how CT was puttin' the blame on Marcellas. Speaking of Marcellas…Jase was right about him. What an unloyal little weasel he is.

Let's hope James gets his on Thursday.

[Werd2406]

I cant beleive how pretty much everyone in that house is an IDIOT. Its a good move taking out Kayser, that way taking out one member of Season6 FINALLY, but wow people will beleive anything that will and mike say....and mike really has to be one of the most annoying people to ever be on Big brother, right behind Cowboy.

[appleye1]

Hilarious how Will convinced everybody that Marcellus got the rewards that CT got. Whatever Will says they swallow hook, line, and sinker even though know he's the biggest liar in BB history. They know it! That's what makes them all such idiots.

[scottykempf]

W:Hey Boogie, did you win the Veto?
B: No, I just won a trip to Aruba, and ummm.. a plasma TV.
W: Yeah, I won $5,000.

W &B: AHHHHHAHHAAAHHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[katbug]

Yeah, I'm just not getting the mentality in this house lately...everyone's believing what they hear from everyone else. Did they not watch the other seasons before coming on?! If they had, they'd all know that James flip-flops uncontrollably, Danielle can be very cunning when given the chance to work her magic, and Will is the biggest liar ever to play BB! C'mon people!! I'm choosing to believe it's the slop that is somehow laced with something to kill their braincells.
I was very relieved to see Janelle finally questioning James' motives and actions, as well as Danielle's nominations. Just wish others would see it too. Argh!!
Well, at least Janelle got herself off the block. I'd love to see Kaysar somehow miraculously escape eviction this week...James just needs to go home.
I can't even believe that James is mad at Janelle for the cold water..."5 points she didn't even need"?!? Is he playing the same game we're watching?? Ummm...last I checked, Janelle needed every last point she could possibly get so that she could get that veto! How would she know what things were already done/not done and where her points stood against everyone elses?! Grrr....he's such a self-righteous ...I'll stop now before I go off completely.

P.S. Ok, ok, I will admit that I actually did laugh at Will and Booger's DR session tonight. I used to hate those things, but they are growing on me and tonight's was just too right on target not to laugh.

[etemple]

I'm sort of surprised that dani didn't jump on the marcellus bandwagon given their history in BB3, but she's smart to put up Kaysar.

And seriously, why were people mad at James for the margarita party--I mean, I think it's not a bad strategy to try and garner good wil amongst everyone else in the house, especially when Janelle is putting people on cots and cold showers and slop . . .

[katbug]

And seriously, why were people mad at James for the margarita party--I mean, I think it's not a bad strategy to try and garner good will amongst everyone else in the house, especially when Janelle is putting people on cots and cold showers and slop . . .

I think the main issue with it was that for the *cough* "Legion of Doom" *cough*, it showed that James wasn't worried about getting the veto enough, maybe outing the alliance.
And for Janelle, it's exactly that...it made her wonder why he felt comfortable enough not to fight like hell for that veto since he was supposedly in the same boat she was.

[etemple]

I agree with you, but I think it was way more of a problem for the phonecall, since there is no way that can be spun as anything but selfish . . . James should have been more careful with that or he might actually be seeing sarah sooner than he expected.

[cwerdna]

It's too bad everyone was so idiotic during the veto competition. Even though I as rooting for Danielle, I couldn't help but just laugh at every yes and to see her reaction.

UGH!!! I can't stand the fact that Janelle is safe again this week. It's nutty that CT is safe and still calling the shots. They're probably going to safe again next week w/the Danielle vs. Janelle battle. :/

[vertigo235]

There is no way that Jannelle wasn't going to win that competition, if Danielle wanted to win, she should have chosen the bad ones. They should have known that Janelle was going to pick it.

[mask2343]

Will and Boogie are the main reason that this season has been GREAT. Every week we laugh out loud at their interviews and their domination of the mental part of the game.

It would be GREAT to see James leave the house after the STUPID strategy. Wouldn't mind seeing Kaysar go either. He'll become the first BB player to be voted out 3 times! And he is clueless. Janelle is the only reason they figure anything out.

[newsposter]

I hate competitions where it's not easily followed by the audience all the point totals etc. Not saying it was rigged but BB did have the best outcome for ratings.

Loved how dan called up erika then jimmy barges in 2 seconds later and tosses her out. I really thought he'd almost tell her about the call.

Howie prob had a scare. but it was good for her to point out she's true to their word and the gang obviously isn't. I'm pretty sure that was a subtle point and doubt they got it though.

[modnar]

I don't understand why Kaysar didn't even appear to entertain Janelle's notion that James was working with Danielle with his nomination.

After the conversation between Danielle and George, I was half-expecting George to leave the room and then see Danielle roll her eyes or something.

I'm also liking Boogie more than I did in Season 3, where he annoyed me tremendously. And, it does seem like they're all on something since they're believing Will's and Boogie's lies left and right.

[TriBruin]

I would so love to see James voted out, but I just can't see it happening. He would to be voted out 5-2 since he has the power to nullify one vote. (4-3 goes to 3-3 tie, Dani votes out Kayser). Unless CT really feels that James is a threat, they will vote with Dani or (secretly) split their vote again.

Wil is an absolute mastermind! He has got S6 and the "Floaters" so perfectly aligned against each other, they can't even see who is controlling the house.

Count me as someone who has grown fond of the Wil/Boogie Phone Calls.

At this point, I am rooting for Wil. :eek: (Gawd, did I just say that!)

[Skittles]

W:Hey Boogie, did you win the Veto?
B: No, I just won a trip to Aruba, and ummm.. a plasma TV.
W: Yeah, I won $5,000.

W &B: AHHHHHAHHAAAHHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAOh my god, I got a REALLY good laugh out of that. Possibly one of their best "phone calls" ever.

FWIW, there is no way James will go home this week. CT isn't going to vote against the HoH. They always do whatever the HoH wants, because it breeds trust. If they vote against Danielle's wishes, it puts too big of a target on their backs. Kaysar is going home this week.

And another thing. What's with the last three replacement nominations bitching and moaning about being backdoored? Do they not understand that when a nomination is veto'ed, the HoH has to nominate someone else in their place? That's not backdooring. That's part of the game. And in none of the last three weeks was removing a nomination part of the HoH's plan.

So when Kaysar started to bitch and moan about how he was just being backdoored... boo-frickin-hoo. It's not like you haven't played this game before, so suck it up and quit cryin'.

[IndyJones1023]

And another thing. What's with the last three replacement nominations bitching and moaning about being backdoored? Do they not understand that when a nomination is veto'ed, the HoH has to nominate someone else in their place? That's not backdooring. That's part of the game. And in none of the last three weeks was removing a nomination part of the HoH's plan.

So when Kaysar started to bitch and moan about how he was just being backdoored... boo-frickin-hoo. It's not like you haven't played this game before, so suck it up and quit cryin'.
Just a persecution complex. You're right: boo-frickin'-hoo.

[SuperZippy]

i hated kayser last time, will be nice to see him be the first 3 time loser in big brother history....

lovin the phone calls...

nah, i didn't win pov, i just got a lousy trip to aruba and a plasma tv...LOFL...

[Steveknj]

I hate competitions where it's not easily followed by the audience all the point totals etc. Not saying it was rigged but BB did have the best outcome for ratings.

Loved how dan called up erika then jimmy barges in 2 seconds later and tosses her out. I really thought he'd almost tell her about the call.

Howie prob had a scare. but it was good for her to point out she's true to their word and the gang obviously isn't. I'm pretty sure that was a subtle point and doubt they got it though.

You're not saying it's rigged, but I am. Yes, I KNOW there is no way they could have guaranteed Janelle staying, but they gave her the BEST possible odds of winning the PoV. In a competition like that, you KNOW she has to save her self, so she'll take every one where she gets the most points. All she had to do was ring in faster than Dani, which she did most of the time. As soon as they discribed the competition, I paused it and said to my son, Janelle is definitely going to win this.

BTW, I pretty much knew she had won before I even watched because of this thread. Folks, when you tend to like one player or the other, and that player is on the block, and you post messages like "I gleefully know who won PoV" in this thread, it GIVES IT AWAY. Please spoilerize comments like that so as not to give things away to those of us who are trying to avoid all spoilers pertaining to things that have NOT happened yet.

Random thoughts
I agree that Will and Boogie are just amazing strategists. Even if Will or Boogie gets voted off next week, it's amazing that they have manipulated enough to stay in the game this long with that huge target on his back. You may not like Will and yes he's obnoxious, but my sole reason for WATCHING BB is to watch how people manipulate each other. That's the best part of the game. Will is the master. He gets voted out, the game gets a whole lot more boring.

I'm glad Dani didn't fall for the Marci bashing and stayed the course with nominating Kaysar. I'm thinking part of the CT strategy was to appear to side with S6, knowing full well that Dani would do what she planned to do, and take out a S6er.

I was definitely confused about how James played the PoV game, but, I'm thinking he knows he's safe, and didn't really care if Janelle OR Kaysar went home, as long as the S6 base was weakened. It will be interesting to see how Janelle and Howie vote. Do they stick with what the house wants or do they vote out James who's the weakest link in their alliance. If they vote out Kaysar, that's the end of the S6 power, if they vote out James, then they have a strong threesome, and they might FINALLY attack CT.

[Steveknj]

i hated kayser last time, will be nice to see him be the first 3 time loser in big brother history....

lovin the phone calls...

nah, i didn't win pov, i just got a lousy trip to aruba and a plasma tv...LOFL...

It's interesting, but we had always thought that Mike Boogie was probably fairly "well off" being a bar owner in partnership with Will and all that. It seemed strange to me that he would HAVE to go for a trip and a plasma TV. I think it was more to their strategy to make sure they did NOT win PoV than to win the prizes.

I love the phone calls, and I TOO want to see Kaysar, out. He's truly NOT an all-star.

[Jebberwocky!]

Wow, Janie won POV, never saw that coming. ;)

Kasar's a goner - but how sweet would it be to see the look on James' face if he were voted out??? I did like seeing his girl friend again.


BTW, I pretty much knew she had won before I even watched because of this thread. Folks, when you tend to like one player or the other, and that player is on the block, and you post messages like "I gleefully know who won PoV" in this thread, it GIVES IT AWAY. Please spoilerize comments like that so as not to give things away to those of us who are trying to avoid all spoilers pertaining to things that have NOT happened yet.

as we've proven, spoilers can be a little problematic as well - better not to mention things that happen after the show at all, except for the live thread.

[Dnamertz]

There are 3 people who are no longer able to complain about things:

Marcellus is no longer able to complain about Danielle betraying him because he has betrayed Janelle for no reason. Janelle did nothing to him. The only reason he gave for turning on her is that her vanity....Hello, Marcellus=vanity...thats why Jani and Marci hung out together.

After seeing the way her "team-mates" played in the veto comp (especially James), Danielle can't complain about anything James does in the future if she doesn't tell people to evict him.

James can't complain about ANYTHING because he's guilty of everything he complains about. And he keeps saying "Janelle destroyed the S6 alliance". No, she voted out a floater...what destroyed the S6 alliance was when James decided to bail out of it and stab it in the back.

CT would be smart to vote out James. Last night they said they want S6 to remain to take the target off of themselves. If Kaysar goes, then the S6 alliance is pretty much gone...its just Howie and Janelle (and they know James has jumped ship). But if they evict James, then the 3 S6 members will still be the big target for the next HOH.

[Dnamertz]

I love the phone calls, and I TOO want to see Kaysar, out. He's truly NOT an all-star.

Yes he is...the all stars were chosen by the people and he is the most favorite.

[IndyJones1023]

BTW, I pretty much knew she had won before I even watched because of this thread. Folks, when you tend to like one player or the other, and that player is on the block, and you post messages like "I gleefully know who won PoV" in this thread, it GIVES IT AWAY. Please spoilerize comments like that so as not to give things away to those of us who are trying to avoid all spoilers pertaining to things that have NOT happened yet.
All threads in the TV Talk section about a specific program with a time/date in the title are spoilers. Don't read about a specific show until after you've seen it.

[Jebberwocky!]

All threads in the TV Talk section about a specific program with a time/date in the title are spoilers. Don't read about a specific show until after you've seen it.

I think he was referring to things that have not happened yet on TV but have happened in real time. I could be wrong .. .. .. ;)

[Skittles]

I think he was referring to things that have not happened yet on TV but have happened in real time. I could be wrong .. .. .. ;)Did that happen in the last thread? I skimmed through the 8/6 thread and didn't see anyone posting like that.

[Jebberwocky!]

Did that happen in the last thread? I skimmed through the 8/6 thread and didn't see anyone posting like that.

Neither did I - I just read it a little different then Indy did.

[Skittles]

Neither did I - I just read it a little different then Indy did.Me too. :)

Sorry, I probably shouldn't have quoted your post, but it's early and I'm low on coffee. :D

[yostmatt]

Will and Boogie are the main reason that this season has been GREAT. Every week we laugh out loud at their interviews and their domination of the mental part of the game.


I didn't really care much for them at first, I was rooting for the Janelle and S6 crew. Now, Im all about Chill Town Joining up with James and Dani to take S6 down! They are so funny!

Will: 'You know that Marcellus was greedy and took all the prizes"

Hahaha Genius

[IndyJones1023]

I think he was referring to things that have not happened yet on TV but have happened in real time. I could be wrong .. .. .. ;)
Oops, must have missed that. Carry on. :o

[Steveknj]

All threads in the TV Talk section about a specific program with a time/date in the title are spoilers. Don't read about a specific show until after you've seen it.

That's the thing, I was reading the thread on THE LAST EPISODE, not the new one. The comment was NOT spoilerized, it was obviously posted to hint that Janelle had won based on the poster's previous posts, it was VERY easy to make the leap that Janelle had won. As someone suggested, it would be best to NOT discuss anything that happens in episodes not yet aired, or even comment about it. And if you feel compelled to comment, please spoilerize. I know several folks get bent out of shape if even a coming attraction is mentioned unspoilered in a thread. This is the same thing. I expect NOT to know what's GOING to happen when I read a thread about what DID happen.

[IndyJones1023]

That's the thing, I was reading the thread on THE LAST EPISODE, not the new one. The comment was NOT spoilerized, it was obviously posted to hint that Janelle had won based on the poster's previous posts, it was VERY easy to make the leap that Janelle had won. As someone suggested, it would be best to NOT discuss anything that happens in episodes not yet aired, or even comment about it. And if you feel compelled to comment, please spoilerize. I know several folks get bent out of shape if even a coming attraction is mentioned unspoilered in a thread. This is the same thing. I expect NOT to know what's GOING to happen when I read a thread about what DID happen.
Gotcha.

[katbug]

Not really a spoiler, just my thoughts on how people should vote imo, but didn't want to make anyone mad.

It will be interesting to see how CT votes this week. Since Dani can't compete for HOH next week and the floaters aren't an actual alliance (nor do they usually win competitions), it seems they'd be more eager to please S6/Janelle by keeping Kaysar (showing their allegience to the biggest HOH winner, as well as getting rid of James whom people are finally realizing is not reliable). Not to mention that it leaves S6 intact as a target, keeping them in the game longer. But this is all just speculation and probably wishful thinking on my part. ;0)

[IndyJones1023]

The phenomenal stupidity of almost all the players in the house is how this "all-star" season will be remembered.

[jlb]

Wil is an absolute mastermind! He has got S6 and the "Floaters" so perfectly aligned against each other, they can't even see who is controlling the house.

Count me as someone who has grown fond of the Wil/Boogie Phone Calls.

At this point, I am rooting for Wil. :eek: (Gawd, did I just say that!)

+1!

My wife is mad at me for rooting for Wil now....she wants Kaysar to win. Oh well. I floated the idea to my wife that maybe CBS wrote into everyone's contract that they cannot vote out Wil/Boogie until they are down to 8, or something like that. That would never happen, but I just can't believe no one puts up CT when they have the opportunity.

They're all f*#$% idiots, I say. Two times now, Wil says he is going to lie to everyone, yet everyone still doesn't worry about Wil......man. Idiots.

[Steveknj]

Yes he is...the all stars were chosen by the people and he is the most favorite.

I supposed it depends on your definition of an All-Star. Having Kaysar being considered an "all-star" is like the fans voting in the backup catcher on any baseball team. Yeah, he might be popular with the fans, but is he an "all-star"? To me Kaysar is the worst kind of BB contestant. He's arrogant, he plays dumb, and he rides cottails behind an alliance. When he's had his opportunities to shine, he's failed miserably. I don't get his popularity.

Of course, I am no fan of these BB6ers since last year, and you are, so we respectfully disagree.

[Skittles]

CT's whole strategy this time has been to divide and conquer. They love stirring up discontent, they cause trouble by subtly redirecting blame (look at the Marcellas thing last night), and the main strategy that's gotten them this far has been turning people against each other in order to let chaos reign.

Taking out James is a really nice idea, as he's one hell of a competitor when he wants to be (emphasis on "when he wants to be", since apparently, wanting to win the veto only goes so far as a couple of margaritas).

But looking at a much wider strategy for the overall game, CT's best bet is to vote out Kaysar. With Kaysar gone, SeaSix becomes a MUCH weaker alliance. Just Janelle and Howie together? They're easy pickings at that point. Because if Janelle or Howie wins HoH on Thursday, they're both gunning for the person Danielle because she was responsible for Kaysar's nomination and eviction.

[uncdrew]

What if you were a family member of someone in the house other than CT.

"Mom, you're so dumb!"

"Dude, vote out CT -- they're playin' you."



When those contestants get home and watch the show... yikes. They'll see the phone calls, the manipulation. wow.


"So Danielle's in solitary confinement, I won $5,000, half the house is on slop, and I'm going to a margarita party where Janelle will be hitting on me?"

:D




Fun episode last night. I too think most of the players are dumb, but in their position perhaps it's not so easy. Confined to the house, mind working overtime... who knows?

However, right when the rules were announced if I had been Dani I would have buzzed in immediately for everything that won points. Even missing veto competition next week.


And I were CT, I too would have tried for all the prizes. :) I don't think they'll win, but at least they won stuff and had fun.

[Skittles]

The phenomenal stupidity of almost all the players in the house is how this "all-star" season will be remembered.Hear hear.

When I think of the strategies I've seen in past seasons by total newcomers (The six finger plan from Nakomis, Kaysar backdooring Cappy into a nomination, etc.), it just amazes me that some of these SAME people are playing so stupidly. I'd understand if they were in a bad situation, if the game had drastically changed since they played, or if alliances were going badly. But none of that is true. These folks are playing like a bunch of idiots.

I'll die laughing if/when Will makes it into the final four. Because, frankly, the man had so much going against him going into the house and had a huge target on his back. Here we are, and he's made it so far, once again... by doing exactly what he did the first time. And he's openly announcing the fact that he's doing it.

I give Danielle credit, though. To be honest, I think she's one of the sharpest players in the game. I may disagree with some of her tactics, I may not like the way she talks about some people, but I give her lots of credit for knowing who she can trust, who she can't trust, and what it's going to take to get her further.

[JFriday]

Count me in as someone that couldn't stand CT but they are really growing on me. Even Booger.

[katbug]

I think the term All-Stars was kind of a stretch. IMO they just meant "most popular" or "America's Choice", not "the best players". I mean c'mon, can you really say that most of these players were the best of the best? Absolutely not! Most had no game at all in their seasons, but America wanted them back in.

The only ones I'd consider "All-Stars" meaning good players (even if just in their seasons) out of this group would probably be Will, Janelle, Kaysar, Danielle....even if some haven't been as good this season, they were dominant in their seasons.

[IndyJones1023]

I give Danielle credit, though. To be honest, I think she's one of the sharpest players in the game. I may disagree with some of her tactics, I may not like the way she talks about some people, but I give her lots of credit for knowing who she can trust, who she can't trust, and what it's going to take to get her further.
Ditto. Plus she's gorgeous and has a great rack.

[uncdrew]

I'll die laughing if/when Will makes it into the final four. Because, frankly, the man had so much going against him going into the house and had a huge target on his back. Here we are, and he's made it so far, once again... by doing exactly what he did the first time. And he's openly announcing the fact that he's doing it.

I give Danielle credit, though. To be honest, I think she's one of the sharpest players in the game. I may disagree with some of her tactics, I may not like the way she talks about some people, but I give her lots of credit for knowing who she can trust, who she can't trust, and what it's going to take to get her further.

Agreed on Danielle. Her only real fault is assuming other players "get it". Her week 1 strategy was decent, but expecting Allison to handle it correctly was not.

Her strategy this week was good, but expecting the others to come through was not.




While I'm stubborn at times, I've got to agree Will is doing amazingly well and is a great player. I do kind of wonder if he benefits from CT being just 2 people. Of course he does, since it's letting others think his power can easily be dealt with later. If he was the leader of a group of 4 or 5, he'd be gone.


I think.

:)

[jlb]

Ditto. Plus she's gorgeous and has a great rack.

Agreed:
http://www.tvguide.com/NR/rdonlyres/ED60B14C-8858-40F3-8FB4-62EFE9CD613D/1577/050820entertainment.jpg

But then there is always this....yikes!!!!
http://www.bigbtv.com/Images/BigBrother/bb6/cast/Janelle/JanelleMug.jpg

[Steveknj]

Not to beat a dead horse, but this was the comment last week that lead me to believe that Janelle was going to win PoV. Realize in this thread, it's taken out of context...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrettStah
Yes it has.






Shhhh! We are blissfully ignorant here!

__________________

I did not post the actual poster's name but the poster has generally been pro-BB6. And in the context of the thread, it was pretty obvious who the winner was.

Anyway, in the immortal words of Forrest Gump....That's all I have to say about that!

[IndyJones1023]

Agreed:
http://www.tvguide.com/NR/rdonlyres/ED60B14C-8858-40F3-8FB4-62EFE9CD613D/1577/050820entertainment.jpg

But then there is always this....yikes!!!!
http://www.bigbtv.com/Images/BigBrother/bb6/cast/Janelle/JanelleMug.jpg
Uh, no, I was referring to Danielle!

[Steveknj]

Agreed:
http://www.tvguide.com/NR/rdonlyres/ED60B14C-8858-40F3-8FB4-62EFE9CD613D/1577/050820entertainment.jpg

But then there is always this....yikes!!!!
http://www.bigbtv.com/Images/BigBrother/bb6/cast/Janelle/JanelleMug.jpg

I think he was referring to Dani's, not Janelle's rack.

[Skittles]

Agreed:
http://www.tvguide.com/NR/rdonlyres/ED60B14C-8858-40F3-8FB4-62EFE9CD613D/1577/050820entertainment.jpg

But then there is always this....yikes!!!!
http://www.bigbtv.com/Images/BigBrother/bb6/cast/Janelle/JanelleMug.jpgI think Indy was referring to Danielle, not Janelle.

[scottykempf]

It's interesting, but we had always thought that Mike Boogie was probably fairly "well off" being a bar owner in partnership with Will and all that. It seemed strange to me that he would HAVE to go for a trip and a plasma TV. I think it was more to their strategy to make sure they did NOT win PoV than to win the prizes.



CT said that this was their strategy right before the veto comp. "We don't care who wins Veto."

[pmyers]

What I don't understand is why any of them admitted to anything....it's not like anybody would ever find out. Why on earth did James admit to the margarita party and the phone call? Wasn't the point of the game that nobody would ever find out? (although I do wonder how Boogie "knows" he won a plasma and a Trip)

I love that CT has everbody convinced Marci won the prizes....

I too get tired of everybody saying they got backdoored....do none of them know what that really means or does all of the rest of us have it wrong? ;)

GO CT!!!

[KRS]

That's the thing, I was reading the thread on THE LAST EPISODE, not the new one. The comment was NOT spoilerized, it was obviously posted to hint that Janelle had won based on the poster's previous posts, it was VERY easy to make the leap that Janelle had won. As someone suggested, it would be best to NOT discuss anything that happens in episodes not yet aired, or even comment about it. And if you feel compelled to comment, please spoilerize. I know several folks get bent out of shape if even a coming attraction is mentioned unspoilered in a thread. This is the same thing. I expect NOT to know what's GOING to happen when I read a thread about what DID happen.


What I find funny is that despite all this, you still went ahead and paused the show so you could spoil it for your son.

As soon as they discribed the competition, I paused it and said to my son, Janelle is definitely going to win this.

[Skittles]

What I find funny is that despite all this, you still went ahead and paused the show so you could spoil it for your son.LOL!!!!!!!!!

[uncdrew]

What I don't understand is why any of them admitted to anything....it's not like anybody would ever find out. Why on earth did James admit to the margarita party and the phone call? Wasn't the point of the game that nobody would ever find out? (although I do wonder how Boogie "knows" he won a plasma and a Trip)

I love that CT has everbody convinced Marci won the prizes....

I too get tired of everybody saying they got backdoored....do none of them know what that really means or does all of the rest of us have it wrong? ;)

GO CT!!!


My take was that James told everyone what he did first, to attempt to get everyone to say what they took. His didn't hurt the house, so he felt it would make him look better.

Why Marcellus didn't state "I took the slop but that was the only thing" baffles me. Does he perhaps think he won something else?

[jlb]

Uh, no, I was referring to Danielle!

Man....I must have (to borrow Howie's line) Jannie's Boobies on my mind.

:p

[Jebberwocky!]

What I don't understand is why any of them admitted to anything....it's not like anybody would ever find out. Why on earth did James admit to the margarita party and the phone call? Wasn't the point of the game that nobody would ever find out? (although I do wonder how Boogie "knows" he won a plasma and a Trip)

Right after the question they were able to look at their score and see if the numbers had changed. Right after Will but the house on the 5K, he looked and saw his total points were at zero, so he knew he had won the cash.

[jradford]

(although I do wonder how Boogie "knows" he won a plasma and a Trip)
I think everyone knows what they personally won, just not what other people won.

I too get tired of everybody saying they got backdoored....do none of them know what that really means or does all of the rest of us have it wrong? ;)

You're average BB7 All-Star conversation:

Scene - Three HG's sitting in backyard discussing Veto Nomination ceremony

HG1: I can't believe I got backdoored

HG2: Yeah, he threw you under the bus.

HG3: It is what it is.

[pmyers]

Right after the question they were able to look at their score and see if the numbers had changed. Right after Will but the house on the 5K, he looked and saw his total points were at zero, so he knew he had won the cash.


ahh...good point. I didn't catch that because they only showed Will looking that one time....didn't put 2 and 2 together ;)

[KRS]

Another great scene from last night was when Will was talking to James and Howie in the bathroom about his idea of getting Marcellus on the block. He even threw in CG for next week to play James more. Then after he left, James turns to Howie.

James: "Should we trust him?"
Howie: "....................Yeah."

[hefe]

Thoughts...

Another "engineered" veto competition that gives favorable chances to the person who has nothing to lose because of imminent eviction. First George takes advantage, now Janelle. I think that is part of BB's basic formula now.

Danielle has nobody to blame for the POV competition other than herself. All it takes is one person to beat Janelle, everybody giving stuff up doesn't help. Destiny is in your hands, make it happen yourself!

(From what I can gather by searching, I don't recall exact numbers...)

You start with 40 points, and add...
Janelle: 7 points for putting the house on cots, 8 points for putting the four on slop, and 10 for giving up next week's veto.
Danielle: 9 points for solitary confinement.

There were only 4 questions that earned points, and Janelle got 3 of them. Who's fault is that, Danielle? Would you prefer that James beat you to the solitary? If you're not going to grab all the points, how can you put the blame on anybody else? Actually, the best strategy is to have one person get the points, and not split them.

The fact is, the individual that is most motivated to win, wins this POV.


Also, Will and Boogie didn't use the "phone fingers" in the Diary Room, so it wasn't really a phone call skit. :p

[shuke]

watching now, what happened...

Hey buddy.

[Skittles]

Also, Will and Boogie didn't use the "phone fingers" in the Diary Room, so it wasn't really a phone call skit. :pSemantics Antivirus has detected the following virus in this post:

hefe.tcf.x

Quarantine procedures are now active.




;)

[SuperZippy]

Hey buddy.

hey, i think you will like it here..

[Jebberwocky!]

Thoughts...

Another "engineered" veto competition that gives favorable chances to the person who has nothing to lose because of imminent eviction. First George takes advantage, now Janelle. I think that is part of BB's basic formula now.

Danielle has nobody to blame for the POV competition other than herself. All it takes is one person to beat Janelle, everybody giving stuff up doesn't help. Destiny is in your hands, make it happen yourself!

(From what I can gather by searching, I don't recall exact numbers...)

You start with 40 points, and add...
Janelle: 7 points for putting the house on cots, 8 points for putting the four on slop, and 10 for giving up next week's veto.
Danielle: 9 points for solitary confinement.

There were only 4 questions that earned points, and Janelle got 3 of them. Who's fault is that, Danielle? Would you prefer that James beat you to the solitary? If you're not going to grab all the points, how can you put the blame on anybody else? Actually, the best strategy is to have one person get the points, and not split them.

The fact is, the individual that is most motivated to win, wins this POV.


Also, Will and Boogie didn't use the "phone fingers" in the Diary Room, so it wasn't really a phone call skit. :p

Isn't that a contradiction?? Either it was rigged or it wasn't, "The fact is, the individual that is most motivated to win, wins this POV."

[jhausmann]

Isn't that a contradiction?? Either it was rigged or it wasn't, "The fact is, the individual that is most motivated to win, wins this POV."

Nope. one would have to assume Danni was just as motivated to win as Janelle.

[Jebberwocky!]

Nope. one would have to assume Danni was just as motivated to win as Janelle.

I think you're agreeing with me ;)

[pmyers]

Nope. one would have to assume Danni was just as motivated to win as Janelle.

but remember....it was only the first person to buzz in that won....

[hefe]

Isn't that a contradiction?? Either it was rigged or it wasn't, "The fact is, the individual that is most motivated to win, wins this POV."
No, it's not, if you understand what I am trying to say.

I didn't use the word rigged. I liked the term "engineered" that someone else used.

I said, "Another "engineered" veto competition that gives favorable chances to the person who has nothing to lose because of imminent eviction."

It is the type of competition where luck and skill are not involved, only a willingness to give stuff up or endure some discomfort. The person who is most likely willing to leave nothing behind is the person that is certain that they are going to be evicted. If you think there's a chance that you will still be in the house, you think twice about what you inflict on others, or what you commit to giving up. If you're sure you're gone without POV, then you hold nothing back.

The point is that the game is constructed to be most favorable to the person with a foot already out the door. Not that it is 100% rigged, but it is designed to give the person on the outs the best possible opportunity.

This is very unlike a skee-ball game or golf contest or ring toss or puzzle solving, or obstacle courses, or various other contests they have done over time.

[Jebberwocky!]

I look at it that the player who wants it the most would get it - in this case it was Janie.

Anyone else could have played it as hard. So I guess I agree with you after all. ;)

[JFriday]

When I think of the strategies I've seen in past seasons by total newcomers (The six finger plan from Nakomis, Kaysar backdooring Cappy into a nomination, etc
Kaysar's strategy was so good it got him evicted the following week. :rolleyes:

[headroll]

but remember....it was only the first person to buzz in that won....


But recall thet BB has now instituted the 'pick contestents from a bag' technique which inherently can place 'whomever' they want into the Veto competition (excluding the houseguest choice). [do we ever see the houseguests look at all possible 'balls'?]


BB has also begun to pull out the 'what would you do for a Veto' over the 'be the best at the competition and win the Veto' when it fits best (e.g CG and Janni). It is not 'fixed' per se, but obviously closely coordinated with the nominees and other players involved.

-Roll

[Skittles]

Kaysar's strategy was so good it got him evicted the following week. :rolleyes:Hey, I'm not saying it was good for him long term, but it certainly satisfied his ultimate goal.

Kaysar isn't exactly the brighest player in the game. I mean, look at his re-entry into the house back in S6. ;)

[LlamaLarry]

No one else finds Howie's "Big boy [whatever]" thing painfully annoying? Seriously, he had to have suffered a head injury since the end of last season - something is just wrong with that guy.

[Skittles]

No one else finds Howie's "Big boy [whatever]" thing painfully annoying? Seriously, he had to have suffered a head injury since the end of last season - something is just wrong with that guy."Painfully annoying" isn't exactly the descriptive terminology I'd use.

Suffice it to say, I'm surprise someone hasn't bitchslapped him yet. I could have sworn I found him funny last year. This year, he's just dumb.

[unicorngoddess]

Alright, I know everyone seems to think Dani's plan was brilliant...but how on earth is this a good plan???

She was referring to James as the Veto King but Jani is known for kicking butt at any comp...and if she's on the block and automaticaly gets to play for veto, you better believe she's going to go all out to win that veto. Dani's plan was flawed from the get go. If they wanted to get Janelle out they would have had to backdoor her...that's the only way. Nominate two pawns, take one off the block and put up Janelle. Dani was screwed by putting up Janelle at first to begin with. She had to have known there was a very high possibility that Janelle would win veto.

But in Dani's defense, it's not just her. EVERY HOH so far it seems has been forgetting that there is a VERY high possibility that the person you want out the most could very well be the person that wins veto.

And I agree that the slop must be effecting their stratigizing abilities.

[KRS]

I like the POV challenges a lot this year. I like seeing the player on the block in the most danger do crazy things like shave their head, give up veto power, eat slop for 60 days, or stick someone's feet in a vat of worms to win. It's more fun to watch than some lame true/false challenge like most of the HoH ones.

[Skittles]

Nominate two pawns, take one off the block and put up Janelle. Dani was screwed by putting up Janelle at first to begin with.Even with two pawns, there's absolutely no guarantee that Danielle or the pawns would have won Veto. This isn't like normal years, where the HoH and nominees get to pick who plays the veto comp. Three of the players are pre-determined, the other three are random.

Danielle made the smartest decision possible by nominating Janelle from the get-go.

Now, if you want to fault her for not playing the veto competition smartly, I totally agree. I mean, so what if you put the house on cots and take away the hot water for a week? If you KNOW you have to win the veto to take it away from Janelle, suck it up and do it. Danielle played the veto competition stupidly.

[appleye1]

Not to beat a dead horse, but this was the comment last week that lead me to believe that Janelle was going to win PoV. Realize in this thread, it's taken out of context...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrettStah
Yes it has.






Shhhh! We are blissfully ignorant here!

__________________

I did not post the actual poster's name but the poster has generally been pro-BB6. And in the context of the thread, it was pretty obvious who the winner was.

Anyway, in the immortal words of Forrest Gump....That's all I have to say about that!

Well, I posted the "blissfully ignorant" part. And I did so as a light-hearted warning to BrettStah that he shouldn't go any further with spoiler-like comments like that (not that I thought he really would.) I agree with your position that no comments concerning what happens after a show should be in that show's thread. That's why I made that post.

I'm almost 100% sure that you must not be referring to me though. I'm really not pro anyone in this edition of BB, and with the exception of a few positive comments about the cunning of CT, I've never indicated any preference for any of the houseguests. I'm pretty much in the "they're all idiots" camp.

[verdugan]

What cracks me up is comments like Kaysar's after he got nominated "Its game time. I'm playing all out" (or something like that). Almost everybody has said something along those lines after being nominated.

Maybe if they were playing like all stars to begin, they wouldn't be in that position. Why wait to be nominated to start playing???

[jhausmann]

Even with two pawns, there's absolutely no guarantee that Danielle or the pawns would have won Veto. This isn't like normal years, where the HoH and nominees get to pick who plays the veto comp. Three of the players are pre-determined, the other three are random.

Danielle made the smartest decision possible by nominating Janelle from the get-go.

Now, if you want to fault her for not playing the veto competition smartly, I totally agree. I mean, so what if you put the house on cots and take away the hot water for a week? If you KNOW you have to win the veto to take it away from Janelle, suck it up and do it. Danielle played the veto competition stupidly.

Even more stupid was to win HoH. she could've made a deal with Erica and let Erica take the heat from S6 (although they would've likely cut Erica more slack because she had been put on the block by S6 the week before). Dani isnt as good as she thinks she is and it's likely she'll head out RSN.

[Steveknj]

What I find funny is that despite all this, you still went ahead and paused the show so you could spoil it for your son.

Well son and I speculate on who is going to win before all the competitions. I tell him about stuff I read here, so I told him what I thought based on what I read, and then when they described the competition, it just affirmed what I thought was right.

[uncdrew]

What cracks me up is comments like Kaysar's after he got nominated "Its game time. I'm playing all out" (or something like that). Almost everybody has said something along those lines after being nominated.



Yep, just as predictable as "If I'm here next week I'm gonna stir things up"

:rolleyes:

[Skittles]

Even more stupid was to win HoH. she could've made a deal with Erica and let Erica take the heat from S6 (although they would've likely cut Erica more slack because she had been put on the block by S6 the week before). Dani isnt as good as she thinks she is and it's likely she'll head out RSN.The problem is, Erika has no backbone when it comes to game strategy. She's a coat tail rider, she doesn't stand up and do what needs to be done... she just bends to the will of others.

Danielle had a really good strategy, and she knew S6 was gunning for her and that she had to take one of them out.... so had to win HoH to make sure one of them went.

Sure, it may end up kicking her in the butt in a week or two if the Legion of Doom doesn't keep winning HoH competitions... but it was totally the right move to make, IMHO.

[Jebberwocky!]

The problem is, Erika has no backbone when it comes to game strategy. She's a coat tail rider, she doesn't stand up and do what needs to be done... she just bends to the will of others.

Something's holding up those boobies :D

[verdugan]

Another funny line: "It's not an alliance until you name it"

[Skittles]

Something's holding up those boobies :DWhatever it is, it's most definitely an aftermarket add-on. ;)

[unicorngoddess]

My point is that here lately the HOH and the rest of the house have their minds set as to who is going home BEFORE the veto comp even takes place. You really can't do that, especially when one of the people you nominated holds the record for most compitions won. And they had their minds made up that Janelle was going home. Did it never occur to any of them that she might win HOH???

Okay, so maybe nominating two pawns wouldn't be the safest thing to do either, but at least nominate someone that you equally don't like and hope that someone uses the POV to put up your main target.

But Dani also had complete trust in this Legion of Doom alliance and that was pretty premature of her. I mean, do you seriously think someone that's NOT on the block is going to turn down all those prizes. I know she had no idea the comp would be like that but she acted all mad that these people were accepting these prizes...well, of course they are! They aren't on the block they don't have anything to loose.

[AccidenT]

But Dani also had complete trust in this Legion of Doom alliance and that was pretty premature of her. I mean, do you seriously think someone that's NOT on the block is going to turn down all those prizes. I know she had no idea the comp would be like that but she acted all mad that these people were accepting these prizes...well, of course they are! They aren't on the block they don't have anything to loose.

Unless she's so mad that she names one of them as the replacment :D

[Steveknj]

Well, I posted the "blissfully ignorant" part. And I did so as a light-hearted warning to BrettStah that he shouldn't go any further with spoiler-like comments like that (not that I thought he really would.) I agree with your position that no comments concerning what happens after a show should be in that show's thread. That's why I made that post.

I'm almost 100% sure that you must not be referring to me though. I'm really not pro anyone in this edition of BB, and with the exception of a few positive comments about the cunning of CT, I've never indicated any preference for any of the houseguests. I'm pretty much in the "they're all idiots" camp.

Hey, I'm sorry I jumped to that conclusion about ya. It might have been the general tone of the thread that lead me to think that you were pro BB6 and you know what was coming. Turns out I was right about my suspicion of who won, but I guess the reason I thought that was wrong!! No hard feelings!!

[Rkkeller]

I tell him about stuff I read here,


I almost never see BB live so I usually find out what happened first here and then watch a mini marathon of shows over the weekend. I even read the spoilers.

The show is still as fun to watch even though I always know the final outcome.

[etemple]

Did that happen in the last thread? I skimmed through the 8/6 thread and didn't see anyone posting like that.

Yes it did, people started talking about the feeds in the last two episode threads and gave away th HoH first and then who won PoV.

Anyway, I've been rooting for Will all along. he was my favorite in his season, and he was my favorite coming into S7. Boogie really got on my nerves the first time around, but he's mellowed a lot since then, and while I still think he's a bit skeezy, I like him more than I did. He won major points when he got the PoVlast week because that competition was HARD.

What I'd *like* to see is whoever wins HoH next week and nominate Janelle and Danielle, but that won't happen . . .

[jpwoof]

Dani's plan was flawed from the get go. If they wanted to get Janelle out they would have had to backdoor her...that's the only way.

I disagree. It was supposed to be a perfect plan to vote Janelle out. She took a great risk because she knew she had the numbers to pull it off. Even in the veto competition, the odds of Jannelle winning it was pretty slim since there were 5 people playing against her. The only problem was, it was the wrong type of competition. People greed over the prizes which I can't blame them for.

[verdugan]

I disagree. It was supposed to be a perfect plan to vote Janelle out. She took a great risk because she knew she had the numbers to pull it off. Even in the veto competition, the odds of Jannelle winning it was pretty slim since there were 5 people playing against her. The only problem was, it was the wrong type of competition. People greed over the prizes which I can't blame them for.

I don't quite agree. She calculated having CT on her side. And anybody should know better than to think CT will do anything, but what is in their best interest.

[pmyers]

Why does everybody think that Janelle played "harder" than Dani did in the veto? It sounded to me that she agreed to everything that Janelle did but Janelle just buzzed in quicker. Remember it was the person who buzzed first got the points. I didn't get any impression that Danny took any of the rewards and passed on any of the punishments.

[jpwoof]

Janelle gained a lot of points for not being able to compete for the veto next week. If she doesnt win HoH and goes up as a nominee next week, this will hurt her.

[Skittles]

Janelle gained a lot of points for not being able to compete for the veto next week. If she doesnt win HoH and goes up as a nominee next week, this will hurt her.Plus, we still have that whole Coup D'etat thing to deal with starting Thursday. So even if Janelle does win HoH, she may be in a world of hurt this week.

[unicorngoddess]

I disagree. It was supposed to be a perfect plan to vote Janelle out. She took a great risk because she knew she had the numbers to pull it off. Even in the veto competition, the odds of Jannelle winning it was pretty slim since there were 5 people playing against her. The only problem was, it was the wrong type of competition. People greed over the prizes which I can't blame them for.

But the problem is Janelle wins just about everything. She wins HOH comps, luxury comps, food comps and, as proven in last night's show, she can win POVs as well. I wouldn't doubt that as soon as Janelle heard the words "to gain points" she started repeated hitting the button so she'd be the first in. And even if it was a physical compitition she would still be most likely to win. I mean, look who was all picked for that comp. Marci hasn't won anything in the house so far, Will (whatever his motives may be) told the whole house he was going to purposefully throw compititions (so Dani should have never trusted him) Boogie has only won one thing and that's because he played his heart out for the veto last week too.

I'm also beginning to be of the opinion that BB is slightly rigging these POV comps to be in the favor of the one person the HOH really wants to get out. Maybe rigging isn't the right word, but when they sit down and come up with these games, you get the feeling that they're thinking, "how can we get this certain person to win so it can cause the most drama in the house?"

[hefe]

Why does everybody think that Janelle played "harder" than Dani did in the veto? It sounded to me that she agreed to everything that Janelle did but Janelle just buzzed in quicker. Remember it was the person who buzzed first got the points. I didn't get any impression that Danny took any of the rewards and passed on any of the punishments.
Because she didn't buzz in fast enough. If you're that determined, what are you waiting for?

[hefe]

The only problem was, it was the wrong type of competition. People greed over the prizes which I can't blame them for.
And in fact, if Danielle would stop and think, only one of them (those who she believes are with her in stopping Janelle) should try and win. If you have Danielle, Marci, Will, Boogie, and James all playing to win, you split the points, and maybe Janelle wins by only "winning" one item. You need one player to go all out to maximize your chances. So if you're not going to win, what's the downside to taking some prizes? This was Danielle's nomination to protect.

[KRS]

Plus, we still have that whole Coup D'etat thing to deal with starting Thursday. So even if Janelle does win HoH, she may be in a world of hurt this week.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I wonder how it will work. We haven't heard anything about it since Skeletor mentioned it last week, right? Should be interesting - that paired with James' nullification vote and Janelle's not being eligible for the veto.

[Skittles]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I wonder how it will work. We haven't heard anything about it since Skeletor mentioned it last week, right? Should be interesting - that paired with James' nullification vote and Janelle's not being eligible for the veto.*nodnod* There's been absolutely no information on the Coup.

The question is, will Janelle let it slip that she can't compete for veto? Because if she tells anyone, it's very likely that she'll be a prime target next week.

[uncdrew]

Coup?

Which is that?

[jpwoof]

*The question is, will Janelle let it slip that she can't compete for veto? Because if she tells anyone, it's very likely that she'll be a prime target next week.

a couple of people already figured it out.

[Skittles]

Coup?

Which is that?They announced it on last Thursday's show, right before they cut for the night, but haven't really given much more detail on it. Essentially, there's going to be a point where someone will be able to overthrow an existing HoH at a critical moment. Beyond that, they've given no details.

[Skittles]

jpwoof, was that on the 8/8 show? I'm relatively certain you're talking about something from the live feeds.

[unicorngoddess]

No, I think a few people on last night's show speculated that Jani was the one that won't be able to compete next week. I don't think it was given much serious thought but somebody definately questioned whether she picked that or not.

[KRS]

I found this recap of the questions and who won on another site (http://bbvii.blogspot.com/) (plenty of live feeds talk that I ignored - I just googled to find out the questions and points)

Question 1: Who is willing to make the house sleep on cots and have no hot water? (7 points) Janelle
Question 2: Who is willing to spend 24 hours in solitary confinement? (9 points) Danielle
Question 3: Who is willing to give up 3 points to earn a margarita party for the house? James
Question 4: Who is willing to give up 5 points to win a plasma TV? Mike
Question 5: Who is willing to give up 5 points in order to win a phone call from home? James
Question 6: Who is willing to give up 5 points in order to win a trip for two to Aruba? Mike
Question 7: Who is willing to put the four HG not playing in the PoV comp (Erika, George, Howie, and Kaysar) on slop for the rest for the week? (8 points) Janelle
Question 8: Who is willing to give up 7 points to win a slop pass for the rest of the summer? Marcellas
Question 9: How many points are you willing to give up in order to win $5,000? (40 points) Will
Question 10: Who is willing to not play for next week's PoV? (10 points) Janelle
__________
Janelle: 65
Danielle: 49
Marcellus: 33
James: 32
Mike: 30
Will: 0


So, Janelle did win by a landslide. James admitted what he did, and they all knew that Marcellus was down points. It would be easy to figure out that Danielle was up to at least 49 points, and Janelle was claiming to have won with 55 points (since she only admitted to the slop and cots). While I didn't see anything about it on the show, it would have been pretty easy for CT to deduce that Janelle had given up the veto.

[uncdrew]

They announced it on last Thursday's show, right before they cut for the night, but haven't really given much more detail on it. Essentially, there's going to be a point where someone will be able to overthrow an existing HoH at a critical moment. Beyond that, they've given no details.

Thanks, I missed that.


Sure does throw a wrench in there, doesn't it? I'm not sure I like that. There needs to be a few consistencies in the game, and being safe as HoH is one of them IMO.

[SuperZippy]

I look at it that the player who wants it the most would get it - in this case it was Janie.

Anyone else could have played it as hard. So I guess I agree with you after all. ;)

not necessarily, the button mashing could have let bb decide who got what to push the game in a certain direction...

[jhausmann]

I found this recap of the questions and who won on another site (http://bbvii.blogspot.com/) (plenty of live feeds talk that I ignored - I just googled to find out the questions and points)

Question 1: Who is willing to make the house sleep on cots and have no hot water? (7 points) Janelle
Question 2: Who is willing to spend 24 hours in solitary confinement? (9 points) Danielle
Question 3: Who is willing to give up 3 points to earn a margarita party for the house? James
Question 4: Who is willing to give up 5 points to win a plasma TV? Mike
Question 5: Who is willing to give up 5 points in order to win a phone call from home? James
Question 6: Who is willing to give up 5 points in order to win a trip for two to Aruba? Mike
Question 7: Who is willing to put the four HG not playing in the PoV comp (Erika, George, Howie, and Kaysar) on slop for the rest for the week? (8 points) Janelle
Question 8: Who is willing to give up 7 points to win a slop pass for the rest of the summer? Marcellas
Question 9: How many points are you willing to give up in order to win $5,000? (40 points) Will
Question 10: Who is willing to not play for next week's PoV? (10 points) Janelle
__________
Janelle: 65
Danielle: 49
Marcellus: 33
James: 32
Mike: 30
Will: 0


So, Janelle did win by a landslide. James admitted what he did, and they all knew that Marcellus was down points. It would be easy to figure out that Danielle was up to at least 49 points, and Janelle was claiming to have won with 55 points (since she only admitted to the slop and cots). While I didn't see anything about it on the show, it would have been pretty easy for CT to deduce that Janelle had given up the veto.

not that they could do anything with the information because they had framed Marci for the rewards they won. If they let out their deductions, they also expose the game they're playing...

In theory, if you won every question (except for 9) you would win the competition, by a score of 49 to 40 (for all but one player)

[Dnamertz]

Why does everybody think that Janelle played "harder" than Dani did in the veto? It sounded to me that she agreed to everything that Janelle did but Janelle just buzzed in quicker. Remember it was the person who buzzed first got the points. I didn't get any impression that Danny took any of the rewards and passed on any of the punishments.

If Janelle buzzed in faster then it sounds like she WAS playing harder.

[jhausmann]

If Janelle buzzed in faster then it sounds like she WAS playing harder.

The question I'd like an answer to, was it like "Jeopardy" (where you must buzz in after the question is done) or free for all (where you could buzz in any time)? If the former, the comp would've been a challenge. If the latter, buzz in (and hope you're lucky) right after Erica started the question...

[gossamer88]

What cracks me up is comments like Kaysar's after he got nominated "Its game time. I'm playing all out" (or something like that). Almost everybody has said something along those lines after being nominated.

Maybe if they were playing like all stars to begin, they wouldn't be in that position. Why wait to be nominated to start playing???
Not to mention the comment that he was backdoored. Huh? He of all people should know what constitutes a backdoor.

[jhausmann]

Not to mention the comment that he was backdoored. Huh? He of all people should know what constitutes a backdoor.

To be fair, it's more (but still not) of a backdoor than what Jase cried about. He didn't compete in the comp (which makes me wonder why Janelle didnt pick him to help her. 3 S6'ers would've been safe, had Kaysar won the Veto comp).

[marksman]

What I don't understand is why any of them admitted to anything....it's not like anybody would ever find out. Why on earth did James admit to the margarita party and the phone call? Wasn't the point of the game that nobody would ever find out? (although I do wonder how Boogie "knows" he won a plasma and a Trip)

I love that CT has everbody convinced Marci won the prizes....

I too get tired of everybody saying they got backdoored....do none of them know what that really means or does all of the rest of us have it wrong? ;)

GO CT!!!

This is what I didn't understand. Why on earth would all these people spill the beans.. But look at who did not tell anyone what they did, Chill Town. They got everyone else to spill the beans.

They have done a masterful job at keeping the rest of the house at each other's throats consisently.

I don't think Kaysar can win on votes, because remember James also has the ability to void one house guest's vote as well. So for Kaysar to win, if James uses that properly, Kaysar would need a two vote edge.

[jradford]

This is what I didn't understand. Why on earth would all these people spill the beans.. But look at who did not tell anyone what they did, Chill Town. They got everyone else to spill the beans.

They have done a masterful job at keeping the rest of the house at each other's throats consisently.

I don't think Kaysar can win on votes, because remember James also has the ability to void one house guest's vote as well. So for Kaysar to win, if James uses that properly, Kaysar would need a two vote edge.
He can win, or at least he thinks he can win. If he thinks he has CT's vote, then he'd just need Janie, Howie, and one of the floaters. IMO, the only options are Erika and CG, who he's had a decent repoir with throughout the show.

The problem is that even though I really, really want them to flip on the "Legion of Doom," it's way too early and I doubt CT would vote out James. At least not both of them.

[Dssturbo1]

wonder when/how this week james has to use the null a vote power.

like tell julie before the voting begins which person he wants nullified. he would be guessing how that person voted. much different than after once the votes are announced and he could just say hey it's 4-3 against me, so null one and it's a tie then dani chooses

[BrettStah]

Not to beat a dead horse, but this was the comment last week that lead me to believe that Janelle was going to win PoV. Realize in this thread, it's taken out of context...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrettStah
Yes it has.






Shhhh! We are blissfully ignorant here!

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I did not post the actual poster's name but the poster has generally been pro-BB6. And in the context of the thread, it was pretty obvious who the winner was.

Anyway, in the immortal words of Forrest Gump....That's all I have to say about that!

I don't follow the live feeds, and have only gone into the live feeds thread here once, to see who won the last HOH competition (on the spiderweb). My sister does follow the live feeds, and without spoiling anything to me told me (on the day that I posted that) that the POV competition had already happened. So I didn't know that Janelle had won it or not. I was simply responding to this statement, when I typed what you quoted above:

You forget, the veto competition hasn't happened yet.

If you read into my post anything more than that, then I'm sorry.

[etemple]

jpwoof, was that on the 8/8 show? I'm relatively certain you're talking about something from the live feeds.

I think it was at the very end of the show, a skeletor voice-over kind of thing . . . that explains why I (and probably a lot of people) missed it--I just tune her out unconsciously. But she just mentioned 'coup d'etat' and didn't really explain what it would be.

But a coup d'etat is the overthrow of the government, so it's not too hard to figure out what she's talking about . . .

[newsposter]

do we have a positive procedure for the null thing?

either

a. just one persons vote

b if someone is evicted take them back and replace them.

I've (and others) speculated but I haven't seen anything definitive on how this works, just all our interpretations. And the cbs log i posted above is unclear also

[dthmj]

do we have a positive procedure for the null thing?

either

a. just one persons vote

b if someone is evicted take them back and replace them.

I've (and others) speculated but I haven't seen anything definitive on how this works, just all our interpretations. And the cbs log i posted above is unclear also

I know it's not b... He gets the ability to nullify a single vote - so instead of 7 people voting, they will only count 6.

Whether it's before or after the vote, or if he knows the outcome - that I don't know.

[KRS]

not that they could do anything with the information because they had framed Marci for the rewards they won. If they let out their deductions, they also expose the game they're playing...

Chill Town can certainly use the information without revealing their deductions. All they have to do is leave the blame on Marci, point out that Danielle already had 49 and Janelle had 55 when the last question came up. They didn't know each other's scores, but if Janelle knew that someone else had won at least 9 points, she would know that she couldn't risk letting the 10 point question slip by. Then convince whoever is HoH to use the knowledge when making nominations.

Of course, knowing Will, he could just as easily convince everyone that someone else got that question for his own evil intentions! :)


I have a feeling that James will have to decide whose vote to nullify before the results are revealed. At least that's how I interpreted it when the nullification was first described. I hope so anyway, just letting James say "-1 for me" would be boring.

[newsposter]

given the mostly lopsided votes that power is useless then

maybe further down the road it can be valuable though

[Dnamertz]

Chill Town can certainly use the information without revealing their deductions. All they have to do is leave the blame on Marci, point out that Danielle already had 49 and Janelle had 55 when the last question came up. They didn't know each other's scores, but if Janelle knew that someone else had won at least 9 points, she would know that she couldn't risk letting the 10 point question slip by. Then convince whoever is HoH to use the knowledge when making nominations.

Of course, knowing Will, he could just as easily convince everyone that someone else got that question for his own evil intentions! :)


I still don't understand how they got people to believe that Marellus took the $5,000. After the cometition, when they were all sitting around discussing who got what, Will admitted that he saw his points go from 40 to zero. That means he bet all his points on the chalkboard and got the $5,000. After admitting that, how did anyone believe Marcellus took it?

[ScottE22]

I still don't understand how they got people to believe that Marellus took the $5,000. After the cometition, when they were all sitting around discussing who got what, Will admitted that he saw his points go from 40 to zero. That means he bet all his points on the chalkboard and got the $5,000. After admitting that, how did anyone believe Marcellus took it?

I was thinking the same thing. He must just be that charismatic that people overlook facts and believe him anyway. :rolleyes:

[unicorngoddess]

I still don't understand how they got people to believe that Marellus took the $5,000. After the cometition, when they were all sitting around discussing who got what, Will admitted that he saw his points go from 40 to zero. That means he bet all his points on the chalkboard and got the $5,000. After admitting that, how did anyone believe Marcellus took it?

I just re-watched. James says he saw his points go from 40 to 37 for the margarita party and then 37 to 32 for the phone call. He says he knows what he gots and everyone else knows what they got too. Will then says he got nothing. James asked how many points he had at the end and he said 40 and James agrees that he had nothing.

[Fool Me Twice]

S6 have wanted Marci out for quite a while. And anyone on the block will certainly help find a new target. Janelle was already angry at Marci for not trying to win POV. Will didn't have to change anyone's mind about Marci, he just had to show that he and Boogie were willing to vote him out, and S6 happily saw an opportunity to save themselves. No great manipulation involved, except by the editors.

[Dnamertz]

S6 have wanted Marci out for quite a while. And anyone on the block will certainly help find a new target. Janelle was already angry at Marci for not trying to win POV. Will didn't have to change anyone's mind about Marci, he just had to show that he and Boogie were willing to vote him out, and S6 happily saw an opportunity to save themselves. No great manipulation involved, except by the editors.

The person they needed to "manipulate" was Danielle and she didn't buy it.

I still think its in CT's best interest to vote out James and sit back and let Janelle, Kaysar and Howie fight it out against The four remaining "floaters". If Kaysar goes this week, who will next weeks HOH target be...it will be CT.