Hell's Kitchen 8/7

[nataylor]

Virginia is an idiot, but she can apparently cook when not on the line.

Kieth just comes off as a slimeball and I'm glad he's gone. I really can't see anyone taking orders from him. My wife and I both yelled out "Oh no, you didn't!" when he made his comment to Ramsey at the end. That was hilarious. I half expect Ramsey to punch him in the mouth.

[shanew1289]

He seems like an overgroan 12 year old Bully, but thats just me. GLad hes gone, Virginia needs to keep her meds handy......

[ireland967]

I can't disagree more about Virginia. She's definitely not much of a line cook, but she's made it to the finals by being smarter than everyone else.

Keith deserved going home, all he has to do is keep his mouth shut during service and he's in. As it is, I don't see anyone respecting him in the kitchen. I had to play that last line of his back a few times to make sure my ears weren't hearing what they wanted.

Something about Heather is just off, she stares into space while being given instructions which throws me. She seems robotic, and I think Ramsey picks up on that.

[YCantAngieRead]

There's something about Virginia that drives me nuts. NUTS. I hope she doesn't win. Heather's been my pick since the beginning.

They both have two very different strong-suits-Virginia's is in creating dishes, and Heather's is in leadership. It'll be interesting to see who wins.

[gjustice]

Now K-Grease can go back to flipping burgers at some nasty "nowhere near the interstate" diner in the middle of nowhere.

I wouldn't trust Heather as far as I could chunk her trash talking a**.

Maybe Virginia IS a suckup, and maybe she can't shine on the line, but what Executive Chef in the real world works the line, or even know where the kitchen is for that matter?


And what did I hear in the preview? Someone asking Virginia what her husband thought about all this? I actually watched it live so I couldn't rewind it.

Next week will be VERY INTERESTING.

[ncsercs]

I agree with Keith. Ramsay has to be f------ Virginia.

At the construction site, she all but offered to blow those guys.

She is by far the worst and weakest I've ever seen.

Heather will eat her alive next week. Unless the fix is in.

[newsposter]

Keith deserved going home, all he has to do is keep his mouth shut

that's funny....when does he have his mouth shut? probably have slobber in every meal

There's something about Virginia that drives me nuts. NUTS. I hope she doesn't win. Heather's been my pick since the beginning.
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could it be that like, sara, she laughs when others get in trouble? And as much as i'm glad heather will win, i think it was obvious from the beginning unfortunately.

and how does virginia go 5x to the block then all of a sudden keith go?

[twincaminferno]

Keith was right, this was a setup. I mean Ramsay let him go because he said that he doesnt believe that he was a leader. What did Virginia do again last week??? She thought she was not good enough and basically wanted Ramsay to fire her. It wasnt until Ramsay asked her if she wanted to stay did she say yes. Not much of a leader there as well if she is ready to quit every 4 seconds. Also how can someone who says "where are we again" all the time make it to the final two. If Virginia wins it, the fix is in.

[Lee L]

I would not go so far as to say that it is fixed just yet. I did think Virginia would be going though.

One thing I have seen from Ramsay in various shows is that he feels like he can teach someone how to run the pass, to get aggressive, but he can't teach someone to be creative and have an innate ability to cook and come up with dishes.

On Faking It BBC, he took a guy who worked a hot dog stand and trained him well enough to run a crew of cooks so that he won first place at a cooking cometition at a culinary school. He beat our 2 or 3 other chefs, all of which had been recognized previously as up and comers and teh judgin panel were other chefs, instructors and amaybe a high end critic. They actually watched teh way teh guy acted in running the kitchen as well.

Also, on Kitchen Nightmares, he does pretty much the same thing and often tells the chefs to take control of the kitchen and does not mind telling a restaurant owner to stay teh heck out of devising menus if they are not a cheff as well.

Virginia does see to have changed her attitude greatly in the last couple of episodes but I wonder how much of that is her and how much is editing.

[chavez]

Va made an interesting point in her defense. Not her exact words, but she basically said that she is teachable. Keith is clearly not.

[gjustice]

I think that's the secret. Virginia is more interested in taking advantage of the opportunity to grow herself not just beat the others. Listen to her, and it's always, why did I screwup? why can't I do better. All the others were constantly acting like they were always right on target, and everyone else was screwing up.

The looks between H and K when V was running the pass said it all "We'll teach her now" and I think Ramsay picked up on it. They all know d**n well her call was loud and clear enough and they still made her repeat it. Too bad it all backfired on Fat boy.

And as the bobsey twins were bouncing back to the dorm, you'd think they were suddenly BFFs!

Oh yeah, according to the BIOS, V got married about three weeks before the competition started.

[TivoSlinger]

If you look at Virginia's bio at Fox.com, her real title is a GARDE MANAGER. As per the website, a garde manager is a chef who is exclusively handles cold dishes. This is why on the TV show, she is given the job title of salad chef.

This would also explain why she is unable to cope when she is on the line.

[jsmeeker]

If you look at Virginia's bio at Fox.com, her real title is a GARDE MANAGER. As per the website, a garde manager is a chef who is exclusively handles cold dishes. This is why on the TV show, she is given the job title of salad chef.

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It really says "GARDE MANAGER"???

LOL.. What a bunch of dumb a**es running the Fox website.


Anyway... Virginia jsut can't hack it on the line. A good sign ofa really good chef is that they can work any station on the line better than the cooks can. A chef is a leader, but he (or she) is also a damn good cook, too.

[7thton]

Like other have said, Ramsey sees potential in Virginia. In Keith he just saw a lug nut.

I have been pulling for Heather, but her theatrics and bitching have turned me off. Am I now rooting for Virginia?

[jsmeeker]

Keith is a dope. And Heather and Virginia cry at the drop of a hat. WTF is wrong with them?

[cherry ghost]

It really says "GARDE MANAGER"???

LOL.. What a bunch of dumb a**es running the Fox website.




The website has it right, "garde manger".

[jsmeeker]

The website has it right, "garde manger".


ahh... good. NEver mind, then.

[TheDewAddict]

Does anyone else think Keith looks like one of MOM's sons from Futurama? The dumb one?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Futurama_sons_of_Mom.png

[danterner]

I'm definitely pulling for Heather, here. I still haven't forgotten how she acted when injured in one of the first episodes. I don't think Ramsay has, either. Virginia goes tharn (http://www.pseudodictionary.com/word.php?id=823) far too much to be relied upon, though I agree that her last comment (about being teachable) was probably the best approach she possibly could have chosen to save herself. It seems Ramsay thought Keith was a good chef, so it's a shame he was never able to get his attitude under control. He reminded me of Binky (http://pbskids.org/arthur/friends/binky/coloring_page.html), the bully from the PBS kid's show Arthur.

[zalusky]

Whenever I see Keith, one word just screams out at me: DOOFUS.

His hiphop look just magnifies it even more. He is trying to win a prize position at a restaurant and he goes around dressed to appeal to what???

The other thing is Ramsey had lack of leadership correctly. Did you notice how he never looked any of them straight in the eye during a confrontation

[pmyers]

I think Heather had really convinced Keith that Ramsey really has a thing for V and no matter what they do she will win....and it led to keith's downfall.

I laughed my arse off when he called Ramsey out though!

[HookedOnTivo]

Does anyone else think Keith looks like one of MOM's sons from Futurama? The dumb one?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Futurama_sons_of_Mom.png

I think Keith looks like Sloth from The Goonies:
http://www.dizzybint.com/80sMemories/Movies/goonies3.gif

[zalusky]

Perfect!

[cvillacci]

I could not hear what Kevin said to Ramsey at the end. I know the substance but what were his actual words?

[HookedOnTivo]

I could not hear what Kevin said to Ramsey at the end. I know the substance but what were his actual words?


The bleeped it. But supposedly he said Ramsey was f***ing Virginia.

[nataylor]

Specifically, he said that Ramsey had a hard-on for Virginia.

[SuperZippy]

if keith didn't open his trap during the service he stays..

and he is dead on about ramsey...loved the line at the end...

the fix is in..

[Lee L]

Specifically, he said that Ramsey had a hard-on for Virginia.

It took me a couple of minutes going over it in my mind to be sure, but I think this is exactly what it was as well.

[cvillacci]

Wow. I thought he said the F word since it was bleeped. Is 'HARD-ON' a swear word? I know it is not nice but I would not think it worthy of bleeping.

Good for Kevin. At least he had the guts to verbalize on live TV what the audiance was thinking. Bad choice if you want to ever ask for Ramsey's advise or recommendation. :)

[VegasVic]

There has been no one in this years show that deserves to win, IMO. It's been entertaining as hell but they all have severe limitations. Michael stood out by the end of last years series, no one has done that this year. Too bad Michael screwed up his opportunity big time.

[newsposter]

If Virginia wins it, the fix is in.

you dont forgive burning peas eh? She's plain immature. Heather has displayed imperfections too...but at least heather puts on a better poker face

[MauriAnne]

Michael stood out by the end of last years series, no one has done that this year. Too bad Michael screwed up his opportunity big time. What ever happened to Michael anyway? I don't remember hearing about him since last year's finale.

[cherry ghost]

What ever happened to Michael anyway? I don't remember hearing about him since last year's finale.

Check the thread from last week.

[Dssturbo1]

agree there is no way any of them deserve the prize. i can't see them running a local wendys or olive garden much less a high class casino resturant

[LordFett]

Watching this it reminds me much of last years ending. Michael, Ralph and the girl (I can't think of her name). The girl and one of the guys were buddy buddy (wasn't it Ralph and her?) then the buddy goes and we're left with two bitter rivals; one who was good from the start (Ralph/Heather) and one who didn't blossom until the end (Michael/Virginia).

I am making my prediction for Virginia to win it all.

[MassD]

I am making my prediction for Virginia to win it all.

Well... the show's only worth is the comedic value, so I would guess this would work.

Virginia would be a total joke. She's emotionally fragile and commands zero respect... If those are the two main qualities that Ramsey is looking for in a head chef, well, she's the one. If she winsl, she won't last a month without some serious intervention from someone who knows a damn... She'll be a figurehead used for PR...

Basically, she'll be a short term Denny Crane of LV head chefs... until her 15 minutes run out.

[zalusky]

Heather cries anytime she looses anything. I would bet if you total up the Heather crying moments to the Virginia crying moments - Heather takes it easy.

I do agree the winner will probably not go to far afterwards. Its a reality self distruct disease.

[vikingguy]

If I took the competition seriously I would quit watching the show. Virginia deserved to go home keith and heather have carried the services for a long time. Has virginia had a service where she did not completely screw up the whole time? I just wish keith would of ripped into ramsey better. Keith took it better than I would of I would of ripped into ramsey till he left or I got escorted out.

I watch the show for ramsey's tyraids so I can look past the fix being in.

[Rkkeller]

If I took the competition seriously I would quit watching the show.

I totally agree. :up: For Virginia to even make it this far takes any seriousness out of the show but if I were a betting person, I would put my money on her. ;)

The clincher about any fix for me was after she won the other day, her prize was to be trained one on one with Ramsey including taking charge of the orders and "surprise surprise" :eek: the very next cooking challenge involved them running the kitchen. :rolleyes:

[pmyers]

Notice that Virginia is the only one to call him Gordon....

[jsmeeker]

Notice that Virginia is the only one to call him Gordon....


He asked them to call him Gordon outside the kitchen. I can't recall her calling him gordon while actually working.

[Neenahboy]

Check the thread from last week.

For those who don't feel like searching:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4247402&&#post4247402

[Lee L]

OMG, I missed the end of that one. Michael is such a putz!

[hpb]

Anyone have any details on the "prize"?

There has to be someway the casino can fire the winner or hire a real head chef to actually run the place in the event the winner runs the place into the ground.

It would be really interesting to read the fine print about the prize.

[marksman]

I thought this season has been interesting. I agree with some of the opinions that none of them are qualified, but I think the Virginia thing is the most intriguing.

Both Heather and Keith mistakenly beleive that cooking on the line is the most important part about running a restaurant, when it could be argued it is one of the least important. You can pick up a short order cook at the Waffle House who can dazzle on the line, it does not mean they are capable to run a restaurant.

I certainly think Virginia has some serious limitations that limit her from being a serious canidate to run a real restuarant, but I think she has more intangibles than the other two in terms of creativity, understanding food, planning a menu etc.

She probably won't win because she has trouble with pressure it seems, but we shall see.

[Lee L]

Keep in mind too that the position being offered is "Exective Chef" which means different things in differnt places. In fact, is a place that large, she might have no day to day responsibilities in running the kitchen.