'Kidnapped' - Pilot - "Leaked"

[Malcontent]

On bittorrent and newsgroups.

Kidnapped S01E01 DVDSCR XviD-SiNK

Leo Crain, the son of wealthy businessman Conrad Cain, has been kidnapped, and
for various reasons Cain -- who's made some enemies in his business -- doesn't
want to involve the authorities. So he hires the mysterious "retriever," Knapp,
whose business is just getting the vicitim back no matter what. However, the
feds do get involved, as retiring FBI agent Latimer King gets dragged into the
case because of different reasons. There's lots of misdirection and rivalry.
Who's involved? What's the reason why the Crains were targeted? All will unfold
during the season.

[GameGuru]

Malcontent, are you leaking all these shows?

[tem]

why are all these 'leaked' threads even allowed when they clearly promote illegal activity ?

[Andrew_S]

Not bad. Good to see Dana Delaney back on TV. And it's nice to see that Billy from Six Feet Under can handle a roll where he's not an a**hole.

I'd like to thank whoever leaked this episode for the 16:9 framing. It was getting tiresome watching leaked pilots in 4:3.

[Malcontent]

Malcontent, are you leaking all these shows?

No, I'm just making a point to keep an eye open for new releases.

[Mike Farrington]

why are all these 'leaked' threads even allowed when they clearly promote illegal activity ?
People say "leaked" because it is very likely that these shows are being released by the studios in an attempt to drum up a pre-premiere fan base.

[Andrew_S]

People say "leaked" because it is very likely that these shows are being released by the studios in an attempt to drum up a pre-premiere fan base.

I think they're leaked because DVD's were distributed to the majority of television critics who attended the fall TV blitz in LA a few weeks ago. DVD's were also sent out to large number of TV reviewers who weren't in attendance, such as the fine folks over at tvsquad.com.

[tem]

I highly doubt it's some sort of "viral" marketing scheme.

And it's AGAINST THE RULES to post ANYTHING referring to illegal activity on this forum.

"5. No discussion of any illegal activity."

[Andrew_S]

I'm not exactly sure how a post stating that a television show has been leaked is illegal. He advocated nothing, provided no instructions on how to obtain the show, made no reference to actually watching the show or how to distribute the show.

[gnordy]

I saw the pilot for Kidnapped and Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip. You can get a DVD from Netflix with both pilot episodes. Both were pretty good, but Studio 60 has the most potential.

[ScottE22]

I saw the pilot for Kidnapped and Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip. You can get a DVD from Netflix with both pilot episodes. Both were pretty good, but Studio 60 has the most potential.

How? I'm looking and can't find it...

EDIT: Nevermind.

[unicorngoddess]

I agree...nothing about this post is illegal. I can obtain this show legally from Netflix since NBC is releasing some of their premires through Netflix for their members to rent. I will be getting my fall premire preview from netflix tomorrow so I'm excited about seeing this one.

[Malcontent]

I'm not exactly sure how a post stating that a television show has been leaked is illegal. He advocated nothing, provided no instructions on how to obtain the show, made no reference to actually watching the show or how to distribute the show.

Thanks.

[rkester]

I am really suprized that the nets aren't doing the preview thing more with the internet and such.

All of these so called leaked shows could serve to help they fix problems with the shows and find out of they are truly worthy of airing.

Kinda scary at the same time. What if FOX did this? We'd never see anything on their netowkr because they'd cancel it all before it even aired.

Interesting on the Netflix thing - any other shows available like that?

[tem]

I agree...nothing about this post is illegal. I can obtain this show legally from Netflix since NBC is releasing some of their premires through Netflix for their members to rent. I will be getting my fall premire preview from netflix tomorrow so I'm excited about seeing this one.

But everything else isn't necessarily on netflix. It's no differernt than if I said "Hey ! I have a copy of "Talladega Nights" go to bittorrent and download a screener copy !"

why the mods aren't don't something about this is beyond me.

[jschuur]

Technically, according to the Family Entertainment and Copyright Act, it's against the law (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1788120,00.asp) to trade pre-release material. Neither Kidnapped, nor Studio 60 are available on Netflix yet (you can just sign up for them).

Discussing a show that you missed when it aired (SP much?) is one thing, but continued posting of a dedicated thread for each new pilot that leaks before it airs sets the precedence that this forum enables piracy (since more people now know to look for that pilot), which we should avoid.

Aside from the fact that these episodes aren't 'playing' 'now' anywhere legally yet.

[Andrew_S]

Technically, according to the Family Entertainment and Copyright Act, it's against the law (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1788120,00.asp) to trade pre-release material. Neither Kidnapped, nor Studio 60 are available on Netflix yet (you can just sign up for them).

Discussing a show that you missed when it aired (SP much?) is one thing, but continued posting of a dedicated thread for each new pilot that leaks before it airs sets the precedence that this forum enables piracy (since more people now know to look for that pilot), which we should avoid.

Aside from the fact that these episodes aren't 'playing' 'now' anywhere legally yet.


a) No law with the word Family in it can come to any good.
b) I don't see how reporting the fact tha a tv show has been leaked is illegal. Does reporting a terrorist attack condone terrorism?
c) Studio 60 and Kidnapped ARE available on Netflix and have been rented by members on this forum.

[dswallow]

Discussing a show that you missed when it aired (SP much?) is one thing, but continued posting of a dedicated thread for each new pilot that leaks before it airs sets the precedence that this forum enables piracy (since more people now know to look for that pilot), which we should avoid.
There's no law against discussing or talking about any of this. In fact one of the cornerstones of our country is the ability to have a dialogue about things that might be unpopular or illegal at the time.

[tem]

So you're saying that it's OK even though it's illegal and the rules EXPLICITLY state that talk of illegal activities is not allowed ?

This is not "our country". It's Bott's country. And like he previously banned other copyright infringements, he should do so with these if he wants to stay consistent.

[jschuur]

My bad, I had it in my head that the Netflix previews don't ship until later in the month or early September. Kind of makes part of my point moot, doesn't it?

And yet still... when the discussion in the leaked threads leads to the content of the episode, they're basically implying the downloaded it (Studio 60/Kidnapped aside). Why do that on a forum that enjoys the (unofficial) support and name of TiVo?

[tem]

Are the *all* available on DVD ? And even so, he's not saying "go rent them netflix !" he's saying "download them from bittorrent/usenet", which is still illegal to do even if they are commercially available.

[dswallow]

So you're saying that it's OK even though it's illegal and the rules EXPLICITLY state that talk of illegal activities is not allowed ?

This is not "our country". It's Bott's country. And like he previously banned other copyright infringements, he should do so with these if he wants to stay consistent.
We talk about speeding, and that's illegal. We talk about sexual predators, and that's illegal. We talk about murder and murder is illegal. There was even a time that some studios would like you to have believed time shifting a program using a VCR was illegal.

BTW, it's also against the rules to try to act like a moderator. If you believe something is going on against the rules here, you're supposed to report it to a moderator, not make a public spectacle of it.

[tem]

wow. talk about a rationalization. you know exactly what the rules are referring to.

[dswallow]

wow. talk about a rationalization. you know exactly what the rules are referring to.
For some reason you think talking about something is the same as advocating it or doing it. You're just being rather selective about it just because you have some sort of bug up your ass about downloading television shows.

If David wants such discussions to end, he's perfectly capable of making that clear to everyone. In the meantime, discussion of such things will continue despite what you want.

[Neenahboy]

Getting the thread back on track here, I watched this last night, and while not as good as Studio 60, it definitely has the potential to be a multi-season show (though I must wonder how many different twists they can add to one kidnapping before it becomes really stale).

I originally thought that Knapp would be the main character and go back and forth with many different clients throughout the season. Now that I'm aware that that's not the case, I'm interested to see how the writers handle this.

[rkester]

I didnt realize it was on last night until it was too late. wonder if its repeating so I can catch it.

[Neenahboy]

I didnt realize it was on last night until it was too late.

It was actually on NBC last night? I just grabbed the Kidnapped/Studio 60 disc from Netflix.

[rkester]

Maybe I am confusing it with the identical show on FOX? One of the 2 was on last night.

Yeah, I think I am because all of the new shows on NBC start in mid-late sept.

sorry, ignore me i am old and stupid.

[unicorngoddess]

Getting the thread back on track here, I watched this last night, and while not as good as Studio 60, it definitely has the potential to be a multi-season show (though I must wonder how many different twists they can add to one kidnapping before it becomes really stale).

I originally thought that Knapp would be the main character and go back and forth with many different clients throughout the season. Now that I'm aware that that's not the case, I'm interested to see how the writers handle this.

So, is Knapp not going to be a main character throughout the season? I was also curious how they planned to stretch this series out with that plot. I mean, how many times can we see high profile kidnappings gone bad and calling in the specialist? Personally, I thought the pilot was good but I can't see the series lasting very long. But if they can find a way to change it up as it progresses it MIGHT work.

But I enjoyed Studio 60 much more!

(And just FYI...I saw the pilot legally through Netflix. They shipped out the DVDs at the beginning of August.)

[unicorngoddess]

Maybe I am confusing it with the identical show on FOX? One of the 2 was on last night.

Yeah, I think I am because all of the new shows on NBC start in mid-late sept.

sorry, ignore me i am old and stupid.

Yes, I believe Vanished premired last night. Don't worry...I had the two confused too when they first started showing the previews.

[Neenahboy]

So, is Knapp not going to be a main character throughout the season?

I was just expecting the basic premise of the show to be Knapp helping many families over the course of a season. It does have the potential to last a while, but it might get old relatively fast if they just keep adding twist after twist to Leo's kidnapping.